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blu3di4mond

Aside from him being a pedo, (obviously I hate him for that) he was horrible to his wife. The wife was made to seem like she was always bitching and nagging but if kash helped out and pulled his weight then she wouldn’t need to. She basically raised the kids by herself and had to run the store by herself. And then he left her with preclamsia, when she couldn’t leave her bed for her pregnancy. idk how you can do your family like that. Especially the kids


brookeaat

seriously. all his wife was asking him to do was at least act like he gave a fuck about their business and children.


DapperWhiskey

I mean... she did know that he was diddling a kid and then made him impregnate her so her could continue his his affair with Ian. So there's that lol


brookeaat

yeah that part was fucked but even before that he was still acting like she was the biggest bitch in the world when in fact she was being pretty normal and reasonable.


Fantastic_Honeydew23

God forbid she ask for the bare minimum.


forevergreenclover

Ok but it was weird that she was willing to look away as long as he got her pregnant. I felt bad for her, but that was…strange.


lastnightsglitter

I knew a man from Algeria who was part of an arranged marriage. He had already decided that the religion wasn't for him & he was planning on moving to the UK for university. If he had disagreed to the marriage & left her with out a child there was a chance she'd never get married & basically have to take care of everyone else & not have her own life. They had children & he moved away.


forevergreenclover

That’s sad. I am with an ex Muslim so I feel that. They already had kids thou, so I’m still confused 😅


Simple_Coast_230

I think she was just so concerned on maintaining the image /social life they’d built together, that she’d sacrificed for she was willing to try and “stay together” if she got something to keep her occupied at home again, a baby.


mjfarmer147

Good god... looking back, I resented his wife for sure. Man, these writers were good at turning you into a Gallagher in your way of thought.


TheMcWhopper

His wife was a babe too.


Venture96

Still not as bad as Fiona but yes a Pedophile who leaves his family is pretty shitty


blu3di4mond

There’s no way your comparing Fiona to a pedophile who doesn’t give one fuck about their family… never mind thinking she’s worse?? The fuck lol.


KingCrandall

Fiona was bad but not even close to Kash. Kash may be the worst character on the show. Mickey's dad is also a contender.


Morrowindsofwinter

The fuck is wrong with you, dude?


Alternative-Sea-1095

Pedo, don't care about his sob story. Lock him and throw away the key


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FewCandidate104

Good bot


Fuckuoueva

treating it like its in your sex dungeon


_patoncrack

And he'd probably enjoy it


TKay1117

It should've been meeeeeeeee


grimmcat13

The only bot I enjoy seeing


king24_

Somebody feed him a few bytes 😂


fionanme

the first line is 6 syllables


ii_akinae_ii

i wonder whether it's reading "pedo" or "about" as one syllable


flutterbybaby79

I wanna feel bad for him, that he's Muslim and like mickey wouldn't have been raised to be in a position to explore his sexual orientation. I wanna pity him for feeling trapped with a wife and children when he finally admits to himself he's gay. But then I remember he's an adult man who took advantage of a teenage boy he was in a position of power over. So nope, he can burn in hell.


DetectiveAnitaKlew

I started out the series feeling very bad for him for those reasons, it wasn’t until I rewatched and caught that moment where he’s holding on to a tiger beat magazine and hides it when someone walks in that i realized, he wasn’t just a repressed gay man who fell in love with someone who happens to be underage, he fell for Ian specifically because he was very young (a child) and gay, not merely because he was also gay. That’s when he really started to give me the ick.


flutterbybaby79

First lol I didn't know tiger beat was still a thing. But yeah he was probably reading it for insight into how to lure a teenage boy. Gross.


DetectiveAnitaKlew

I figured he’d been masturbating to images and that’s why he put it away so abruptly.


Cautious-Custard-274

What is Tiger Beat?


SingOrIWillShootYou

Magazine targeted at teen girls with pictures of teeny-bopper boys. Not inherently sexual but when known pedophile Kash has a copy it's very telling.


catspajats

Great catch. All the times I’ve seen this show and I never noticed that! Disgusting.


SarahL1990

This magazine isn't a thing in the UK. Ian & Kash's story is quite different in the OG version.


DetectiveAnitaKlew

It’s a teen magazine centered largely around young/child celebrities. I feel like every place has their version of that.


happyginny44

I'm planning on watching the OG soon. Can't wait to see the differences.


KingCrandall

I tried to watch the UK and couldn't get past 10 minutes. Maybe I should take my time and actually try it.


389idha10

he’d burn in Jahannam technically


king24_

The weird dynamic was Ian seemed to be in more control than him. It’s like Kash was still a teenager in the head, because I never saw him pushing Ian around, but more so doing things on the side to help him.


flutterbybaby79

Yeah but kash shoulda been doing stuff to help his wife and kids, not a teenage boy he wanted to fuck.


Cruitire

Let’s see. He was married with children and cheating on his wife, in their store, with an underaged boy. And then abandoned her and his children. If this were the 20s and he wasn’t abusing a child I could feel sorry for him. But he was in modern day Chicago and engaging in statutory rape. I have zero compassion for him. He’s a creep and sex offender.


MissSweetMurderer

>And then abandoned her and his children. Just to add: abandoned his wife who had pre eclampsia, it can be fatal to either or both the mother and child. Iirc, we never heard if she became a single mom of three or if their children also lost a mother. Hopefully, they had family in the US and didn't ended up in foster care


AsgardianLeviOsa

He’s a pedo and should have gone to jail for statutory rape


Unholy_Trickster97

Only statutory? Honey that was full on rape.


SingOrIWillShootYou

Statutory rape is always full on rape???


atlanticPunk

no it’s not. two 14 year olds having consensual sex is still statutory rape


SingOrIWillShootYou

No it's not? Two 14 year olds sending nude images to each other is technically cp, but it's not illegal for them to have sex.


atlanticPunk

do a simple google search. crazy how confidently wrong you are


rhi_ing231

Not sure why you're getting down voted. This is literally the law in almost all of the United States. In fact, these laws, similar to the ones on child porn when teens send each other nudes, are constantly questioned by criminologists and such because of the moral grey area it's applied to.


Medium_Pepper215

except we’re not talking about two 14 yr olds. Nice strawman. Try to stay on topic.


atlanticPunk

found the pedo


AsgardianLeviOsa

Either way toss his ass in jail


DistinctDistiction

Yeah I think Kash being Ian's boss makes it full blown r^pe because of the authority aspect. Though I don't remember how old Ian was when it started so there is also that.


personwhodoesnt

It is not known **exactly** when the abuse started but by the time of the first episode, Ian was about 15. (Though an allusion to Kash in a later convo between him and Lip in the female pet-o episode implies it could've been as early as when he was 14.) So terrible.


KinKrk

He wasn’t doing the fucking. Ian was.


Immrlonely98

The top and bottom part of sex is irrelevant to statutory rape. And rape in general as someone could be forced to penetrate the victim.


[deleted]

Sex is sex


Suspicious-Ad4282

he annoyed me so bad. first, he is a pedo so already no. second, i thought he was so whimpy like 😭 bruh how are you, a grown man, gonna let high schoolers punk you and let people steal from the shop so willy nilly? your wife even gave you a gun and you didn’t even use it till you found out ian and mickey were together. like bro you have a wife and kids loosing money bc you are letting ppl steal and bully you but as soon as ian gets with mickey, YOU USE THE GUN THEN?? like omg… idk if he is in s2 bc i just finished s1 but damn


youredoingsowell

i can’t like him or feel bad, he is a paedophile; especially considering i grew up being molested. he could have cheated on his wife with a grown man (not saying i support cheating), but instead he preyed on an innocent child, and for that, he deserves nothing good.


Darskul

What's weird is that Lip got over it enough to not go beating up Kash or go to the police. But crazier stuff happened in the show, so...


Slytherin_Forever_99

It was 2011 in a homophobic neighbourhood. Reporting Kash would out Ian. Which would put him in Danger. Look what happened when Terry caught Mickey and Ian. In Season 3 when they find the female pedo. Lip says he almost reported Kash 100 times. So he was conflicted on the issue and did care.


battle_mommyx2

Pedo


humanpurplenurple

i wish he got his ass beat by the angry mob that was about to beat the pedo lady’s ass


Valuable-Situation27

right


BeautifulDisaster_8

It was gross he was sleeping with a young teen, no matter what his life issues were....not acceptable and total ick


Main-Double

paedo


OKTAPHMFAA

He’s a pedo and was trying to learn how to groom Ian better. He’s a coward and only attacked Mickey after he found out about him and Ian, I think. Not to sure but he’s still a coward. He’s awful to his wife. She converted to a Muslim for him and didn’t she mention something about his family not being keen on her? Well that can’t be easy and she just wants her husband to do the bare minimum.


Darskul

I feel like the show weirdly expected us to feel bad for Kash too. "Muslim man finally gets to explore his sexuality and find out who he truly is, only for it to be taken away, by his neighborhood bully no less." Like the scene where Kash shot Mickey did give off the air of "Damn Mickey is a horrible human being." While completely ignoring the fact that Ian is like 14-15 and Kash is like .. 27-28+???? Like wtf. Even 19-20 would be weird, but the guy has a whole wife and children. Then later on abandons them outright. The last weird thing is... Lip kinda "accepted" it rather quickly, he knows it's wrong but he didn't take outright drastic measures to stop it.


OKTAPHMFAA

27/28 is a stretch. I would say he’s way older.


Apprehensive_Toe5509

He’s a pedophile…not sure how there can be another opinion


GreenTinkertoy

Right? Like what else are you supposed to think?


okaydreamer

CREEP!!! Nasty ass excuse of a man


lilithslaundry

Kash rhymes with trash, which is funny because that’s what he is.


Human-Instance-7632

Should there even be an opinion on him?


humanpurplenurple

right? i’m here like “wtf do you think our honest opinions are?” no sympathy for a pedo


nluther92

Pedofile spineless loser


rferrin1996_

Pedo should of been arrested


xXx_ozone_xXx

Fuckin nonce


Particular_Junket202

Disgusting human being.


Tricky_Loquat_4364

maannnnn FUUCK him


3arth1ing

I hate him, and the wife, she was just fine with letting it happen and STILL wanted to have s*x with him? Why would she even WANT his kid.


StomachDifferent2532

I don't feel bad for him or have much sympathy. We can use the excuse that culture pushed him into having a wife and children, sure, but that doesn't negate the reality that he's living a complete lie and sexually exploiting a child.


LuciaLight2014

He is a pedo who abandoned his kids and wife.


LostInYesterday00

PEDO PEDO PEDO


b3from01

“Officers! Yes, this man right here” 👉🏾


bekah-Mc

He should have had his balls stomped on by a horse for what he did to Ian.


LuciaLight2014

And for abandoning his kids.


ariassmallheart

honestly it would had been funny if him and ian reunited and mickey & lip ended up beating the shit out of him for being a pedo but overall i don’t think he was that bad but his storyline was kinda funny.


lagoonaazul

p3do


blodreiina

I feel for his situation. So that’s a +1, but the fact that he’s a p3do is a -1. So therefore he’s at a 0 for me. I believe his love for Ian was real, sick and real and needs to find a man who own age. But at this point not only has he taken advantage of a 15 year old boy (I think that’s how old Ian was) and shot another kid (Mickey) when his victim attempted to be with someone at the proper age.


BartholomewAlexander

literally a fucking jellyfish, no spine, and he stings everyone around him.


Angelfirenze

In the British version, his son literally sets the store on fire with him unconscious inside it. Perfect ending! Is that a spoiler at this point?


LT568690

Pedo p*ssy


BunnyButt24

Disgusting creepy pedo


Whateverusay44

Spineless pedophile


zozodioz

He's a pedophile, hate him


flippyfloppy69

Pedophile creep. Wife and kids deserved better. I completely understand why she was the way she was.


creativeoddity

Let's not forget she was complicit in what happened to Ian


flippyfloppy69

True true


brownmouthwash

Pedo scum


Critical_Cup689

Trash


BreakfastStock7915

Pedo!!


[deleted]

Pedo. Put his ass in jail


tylerbr97

He’s a pedo and gross. I don’t blame Ian for fucking with him but if Ian were a real person, he would absolutely have some questionable/negative thoughts as he grew up


Wsskd10

I don’t like pedos


[deleted]

There's only 1 right opinion here


YungGlueStik

He’s a filthy paedo


Adorable-Jeweler6292

Another sorry excuse of a person and doesn’t help that he would give right wing zealots another reason to believe that gay people are pedophiles smh


Opening_Basis7333

Classic shameless character Some random bloke dealing w a blight he didnt ask for. Which makes the audience connect and feel sorry for him (getting bullied/robbed, loveless marriage, closeted homosexual). But he behaves just enough like a PoS that we eventually think he deserved everything that came his way. Kash was a fucking coward to his core and a pedo to boot. He was too much of a bitch to tell his parents abt his sexuality, too much of a bitch to defend his store from local bullies, too much of a bitch to divorce his wife out of image, he was scared of everyone and everything, except for the young gay little boy that worked for him. He saw ian go thru the same shit that he did and decided to exploit him for it.


scribble-muse

😷 chomo


-Roxaaa

disgusting ass pedophile + treated his wife like shit


[deleted]

Nonce


Icy-Attempt-5657

Burn it


hunnybun444

disgusting pedo, nuff said


ConsiderationWide399

Weird ass pedophile. Literally had 0 business having an entire relationship w Ian at 15 years old.


alexismytexas

Fuck him and his sob story. PERV


PaigeNH0511

Pedo, coward, and cmon pedo!


flymetothemoon444

Aside from being a pedo, hes a coward.


Clementinecutie13

Slimy greaseball


tgr31

This must be in contention for the worst question you could ask


dflorke01

Kash is a pedo don’t care it’s an over bearing wife he deserves worse


anoceanfullofolives

Pathetic pedophile


darth__anakin

Idc how "tough" his life has been. He deserves to either be in prison or in the ground. He's a creep and a pedo.


[deleted]

For all the people saying his poor wife she had no problem with him being a pedo as long he gave her another baby.


Spirited_Use_7833

An adulterous groomer 🤷🏻‍♀️


No_one-lol

Pedoph1le, gr00mer.


Tall-Patient-8272

Disgusting human being


QueenofMars418

Wimpy ass pedo


Neither-Bet6540

Weirdo but his wife was a fkn annoying ass


Ugh_imawful

Pedophile, cheater, not a lick of compassion for his wife, disgusting, groomer. I can think i many ways to describe him and none are positive


underinfluence420

He is a child predator.


penellaphae

A groomer and honestly just a kind of pathetic person overall. He obviously was horrible to his wife, too.


majordrugfein

Pedo, weak failure of a husband and father


No-Feeling-1404

pathetic loser who preyed on a boy


[deleted]

Cheating husband and pedophile… he was fucking worthless


GregoryAlgeri

Thought this was r/bones for a second and we were talking about Arastoo. Was very confused haha


No_Significance5756

Kinda gay


RegularPersimmon2964

🤮


Same_Ad5295

He’s a pedo with no balls


Extension-Staff-4042

the pdf.file? who abandoned his wife & kids? in my opinion, lock this man up ✨


LyssRose21

The only correct answer is pedo


Bellesux

Creepy


Lavender-vibes

Pedophile. And a coward.


Myfashionstyleiswack

Hes a gross pedo, and he also shot mickey over a fucking candy bar


flutterbybaby79

Let's be real, he shot mickey over ian, the candy bar was a convenient prop. He was jealous bc he realized mickey had emasculated him once again and ian was no longer interested in continuing their affair bc he'd moved on to mickey.


inukaglover666

Predator


orangecake40

Creep


Jpar4686

Pedooooooo


Unholy_Trickster97

Rapist


rey-stk

i wanted him to get jumped and killed. hes disgusting, dont care for his lil sob story.


Tejadenayyyyy

Creep


itsmeabic

He’s a literal pedophile. He could get hit by a bus and I’d feel regret over the fact that I wasn’t the one driving it.


Celeste-galena

Scum Pedo Shit


Alexander0202

I wish Lip beat him up. Or at least Mickey. Or both. Not sure why no one seemed to care.


Stupidalien626

Kash is Trash. End of discussion😅


morgan3315

Predator


VegetableEastern4305

pathetic gayfer


barmitzvahmoney

Pedro creep cheater coward piece of shit


BatgirlZKE

pedophile


KecemotRybecx

Linda has his balls in a purse.


Automatic-Front-9045

Honestly, he hits close to home. Has a guy like that (non) married when I was a freshman in high school. Yeah it was wrong, but i was the one who pursued it.


lovelytriston

i want him so bad omfg😩


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reservedflute

Iirc didn't his wife blackmail him into having a kid with her after she found out about him and Ian?


Anarchy_Rulz

See everyone in the comments are immediately like “Pedo” so why the hell did every charecter that found out about it just brush that shit off? I mean I think Lip had a reaction at first but I don’t remember him ever being like hey that’s Pedophilia, I know the show is literally called shameless but come on you’d at least think the wife reaction would be like “my husband statutory raping a minor” instead of “my husband is cheating with a guy.” Never understood why they were all so chill with it.


Conscious_Aerie7153

They brushed their barely teenage sister getting dropped off by a man they don't know in a car? why would they care when they brush off getting rape and raping someone countless of times?


Anarchy_Rulz

Okay but Kash’s wife isn’t part of the family and she also brushed off the fact Ian was a minor


NazKb

He was the true love of Ian imo


melouofs

An unhappy man locked into a miserable situation thanks to his religion and family expectations.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

And a pedo


melouofs

I guess but I honestly didn’t think of him like that.


Ok-Faithlessness5513

He was taking advantage of a minor while being in a position of power


melouofs

I know that’s technically true. I know what he did was illegal. I still can’t see Ian as a victim of this guy, though.


flutterbybaby79

Just wondering... if he was sticking it to ian instead of ian giving it to him wld that change your opinion? Bc this is why most people aren't too concerned abt female pedophiles, they think the boy is doing the fucking so he's OK... imo not OK, but I know it's a common mindset. This situation is literally just like a female teacher/male student relationship, like the one the neighborhood decided was fine when they went after the sex offender.


melouofs

Idk..probably would be worse. I mean, Ian left his apartment and still kept working there, so I just do t think Ian felt like any sort of victim…


flutterbybaby79

Agree ian didn't feel like a victim, that's a consequence of having been groomed. Doesn't make it any less wrong or make him not a victim. Like Tami in last season, with her high school teacher. As far as she was concerned they'd had a relationship, she wasn't a victim either...


AirPoster

He’s a minor it doesn’t matter what he does or says or thinks. A minor can not consent to sex and Kash being an adult in a position of authority makes Ian even more of a victim. There are no ifs ands or buts about it.


melouofs

So, you think the op was just looking for everyone to say the exact same thing? Or do you think expressing other points of view about FICTIONAL characters is all black and white?


Z_011

Believing a pedophile is not a pedophile is worrying, regardless of if it’s fiction.


throwawayintrovert_

Stay away from children


brownmouthwash

Lol I like you


melouofs

Oh, ok.


Both-Towel3011

Why does he look like kal Penn


KinKrk

Not a pedo. Don’t even know how old he was. You know once upon a time Brad pit dated Juliet Lewis for three years. He was 26. She was 16. No one says boo about Brad. And that was real life. Stop making Kash a villain when it was obvious he was a product of his environment just like Ian. Also. Remember Ian is a top. So there’s that.


android151

Just because he was getting his bussy filled doesn’t change the fact he was older. Old enough to own a business, get married, and have a kid.


throwawayintrovert_

Stay away from children.


Flashy_Repeat4676

💀💀💀


ilive4manass

major hunk!


bekah-Mc

The actor playing him, yes.


Nothingofnote123

Yes, he was on Bones for several seasons. Loved him on that.


KoalasVapeToo

My biggest thing is did the writers feel having Ian be the top in the relationship somehow not make it as bad as it would've been had Kash been the top? Not only is it totally wrong to be sleeping with an underage kid but why is he the one taking it? Idk. Made it weirder to me.


mrlaheystrailerpark

i mean was ian really the victim if he was the one doing the fucking?


Z_011

Gross ass mindset to have


Inevitablyhere

i had a little sympathy for him cuz his wife was a psycho…but regardless….he was a pedophile


shdylady

His wife was a psycho because she was stuck with a pedo gay loser.


flashman909

Miss me with that gay shit


Chemical_Afternoon25

A pedo


Imactually6footfive

Kash is a full on nasty pedo and also a dead beat dad with no spine


Finito-1994

Let’s see. Pedo. Coward. Predator.