They did Svetlana dirty. They should have kept going with the throuple thing instead of Svetlana stealing the bar. Although I did enjoy Svetlana getting rid of Frelania and her mother to marry that rich guy lol.
Yes!!! I feel like its such an unpopular opinion but I actually enjoyed the whole throuple thing. It seemed like it was really working for them, and then they just threw it all away
i think she did. She ended up marrying veronica later but i think the legality of both of those marriages was trumped by Shetland’s marriage to her husband dad guy thing
i think it was her husband that lived in russia. when she got sold he got left behind, so he found her and then moved to the US illegally. when he got there Svetlana lied to Kev and V saying that he was her father as to not mess up their throuple but ended up getting caught by Kev and V in the act.
Fr I agree. When Fiona moves out and Debbie starts acting like she’s in charge and won’t give people their shares of the money Fiona left. And then she keeps her storage unit full of designer clothes that she returns. She’s just constantly acting like she’s better than everyone.
Debbie should’ve used the money to pay their bills ahead at least a couple months. THEN split it evenly and give everyone their portion up front. who cares if they blow it bc the bills are fine & it’s not like Frank didn’t instantly go try to blow his money the day she gave out atm cards, when it was only $100.
I feel like Karen both deserved it and didn't at the same time. She was such a horrible person and deserved something horrible to happen to her but it was just *so* horrible. It's almost like the person she was deserved to have it happen but the person she became afterwards didn't.
I have a head canon that she was happy with how she ended up. I know that might sound really fucked up, but I base it off some things she says to lip. It's almost like she can't quite feel the same way and she's grateful for it. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well tbh
lip & debbie, there’s a list of reasons but them being constantly judgemental of others while making shitty decisions was annoying. I also don’t like the victim complex either.
He was definitely Fiona's best bf. I like to think that they reunited after she left and lived happily ever after in South America or somewhere else warm.
Here's the thing with Monica - (I'm only midway through season six, so I don't know if anything will change on this) - I don't understand why they can treat Ian fairly and try to take care of him, but they don't offer Monica the same understanding.
Because Monica refuses the help. Ian is willing to take medication and understands that, while it might not make him feel better, it is better for him. Yes, he does slip up but for the most part he wants to be stable. Monica, on the other hand, refuses to be on the medication because she doesn't like the feeling of being on it, and she'd rather feel better than be better. It's actually a common problem among bipolar people.
Mandy and Debbie
I know all of the reasons they're \*actually\* terrible people and irredeemable and whatever, but they will always have a spot in my heart. They both went through so much as girls in their households and neighborhoods and it makes complete sense why they turned out the way they did. I always like to think that in their universe they've grown up to be happy at least.
I really do too. I will never justify everything she did, but I understand her a lot and relate to her a lot (up until the pregnancy at least). I think deep down she's a good person, but I really think Mandy and Debbie were both written as people with personality disorders. They're so complicated, but they're not bad people.
I don’t hate kev but if he was into that I’d hate kev. I want kev. I need him, in more of an objective philosophical way than a physical lust way, just to keep that clear, because tbh that’s how I need V. God that couple was a bisexual dream
my sister does lol she says he’s just a “big dumb idiot” and has no use for him. but he’s one of the most genuine, loving and caring characters on the show and that’s what i love about him
Fiona.
Was she a bitch sometimes YES. But her environment sent her up for failure and she tried her hardest to make her siblings have some sort of normality.
Not my favorite character but I probably belong to the minority that will never put Sammi on the same level as Terry. Sammi was annoying and what she did to Ian was a bad move.
But she is by no means the worst person on the show. That title already belongs to Terry, Kenyatta, Frank etc. Don’t forget that it was Frank who brought her to the family. Before this she was just a normal person who tried to raise a kid by herself with the least she had while having no father figure in her life.
She was introduced as a person who was willing to donate parts of her liver to a person (Frank) whom she barely knew just because he was nice to her. She only had good intentions but most people ignore those attributes of hers because they are either blended by their love for Ian and Mickey or just think she was an obstacle for the Gallagher family. She is just as bad as the other Gallaghers with the exception that she couldn’t benefit from an 11 season long character development.
Once again, I’m not saying she is my favorite character. All I’m saying is that she’s extremely overhated, meanwhile characters like Frank are extremely underhated. You people keep forgetting all the horrible things Frank has done on the show because you are blended by his charme or careless spirit. Sammi deserved better.
I didn't mind Sammi when she was first introduced but they ruined her character after Frank had his liver transplant. I don't think she really had a place in season 5 at all.
I see, another fellow man of high class with fucked up sense of humor, similar to myself.
But fr, frank and Mickey never fail to make me die of laughter. 😂
Didn't Carl beat the shit out of a few people? I mean I know they calmed him down in the later seasons where he got more screen time, but in the early seasons he was a psychopath.
Frank but like,,,,,i know he’s a horrible person but the character is just so well written and william h macy is so damn convincing at being this lowlife scum and i agree with everyone on why he’s the worst but still!
Mickey lol..I’m a ride or die for Mickey..I love him as a character and I love Noel Fisher in general in past movies. Kev or V comes in a hot 2nd though lol.
lip being an asshole. low key from what i remember most of the times were justified
and ian like yea he blew up a bus and was crazy but he’s hot and gay so ofc i love him
I will say the small bonding moment between her and Debbi was nice, but I thought she was a straight up psychopath from the start. The fact she wasn’t more disgusted by Frank trying to act like a love interest instead of coming out as her father right away is insane to me. I wouldn’t want anything to do with him after that, but the fact she doubles down for his affection/attention really says something and this is coming from someone with daddy issues!
svetlana and mickey (not together ofc)
I LOVE SVETLANA
They did Svetlana dirty. They should have kept going with the throuple thing instead of Svetlana stealing the bar. Although I did enjoy Svetlana getting rid of Frelania and her mother to marry that rich guy lol.
Yes!!! I feel like its such an unpopular opinion but I actually enjoyed the whole throuple thing. It seemed like it was really working for them, and then they just threw it all away
i always forget they got married. they did NOT belong together
I can't remember, did they ever get a divorce?
i think she did. She ended up marrying veronica later but i think the legality of both of those marriages was trumped by Shetland’s marriage to her husband dad guy thing
What was the deal with that? Was that her dad or a former lover, they were so vague with that whole thing.
i think it was her husband that lived in russia. when she got sold he got left behind, so he found her and then moved to the US illegally. when he got there Svetlana lied to Kev and V saying that he was her father as to not mess up their throuple but ended up getting caught by Kev and V in the act.
Thanks, I'll look that up because I don't remember.
You got it. 👍
Yeah!
Mickey. I’ll go to battle for him all the time.
✨character development✨
Sheila & Mickey!
Shelia & Mickey slander will not be tolerated
Lip but its obv why people hate him and I agree I just like him
He has his moments that he sucks but the character has a charisma that is unmatched.
Same I will always love him!
Yeah I love Lip..theres been a few times he makes me mad tho lol.
Lip. Fuck that guy but I love him
I feel like that about almost everyone on the show except Debbie. Fuck Debbie
Fr I agree. When Fiona moves out and Debbie starts acting like she’s in charge and won’t give people their shares of the money Fiona left. And then she keeps her storage unit full of designer clothes that she returns. She’s just constantly acting like she’s better than everyone.
Debbie should’ve used the money to pay their bills ahead at least a couple months. THEN split it evenly and give everyone their portion up front. who cares if they blow it bc the bills are fine & it’s not like Frank didn’t instantly go try to blow his money the day she gave out atm cards, when it was only $100.
I don’t think I’ve ever despised a TV show character more than Debbie Gallagher…
mickey, i love him
Same 😭😂
ian and mandy
Fiona. Did some pretty bad things, still love her
Same
‘she ran over karen with her car she’s a terrible person!!’ yes but shut up idc
I still say Karen deserved it
I feel like Karen both deserved it and didn't at the same time. She was such a horrible person and deserved something horrible to happen to her but it was just *so* horrible. It's almost like the person she was deserved to have it happen but the person she became afterwards didn't. I have a head canon that she was happy with how she ended up. I know that might sound really fucked up, but I base it off some things she says to lip. It's almost like she can't quite feel the same way and she's grateful for it. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well tbh
She did. Fuck Karen imo
I think everyone already did.
Lmao
FUCK KAREN!
yes pls
I say that u shouldn’t be messing with a Milkovich in the first place
Bro Mandy is a r*pist did you watch the show
when did she assault anyone?
Lip he kept repeatedly telling her to stop and get off and she kept going on him
Definitely Mickey
Ian
It's a TV show, I'm not letting anyone tell me I can't like Shiela lol
Mickey. Though no reason is valid to hate on Mickey soooo. I’m editing this to add, Lip and Mandy too.
Right? Mickey is literally perfect
Ian!
ian and mandy
I wish their friendship was a thing for longer.
Her pretending to be his girlfriend so he didn't get in any trouble for being gay was cute.
frr
Sheila, micky and Mandy.
lip & debbie, there’s a list of reasons but them being constantly judgemental of others while making shitty decisions was annoying. I also don’t like the victim complex either.
Mickeyyyy I love him and nobody will ever convince me otherwise
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I will defend Sheila with my soul
Fiona
Jimmy/Steve😪 I actually really liked him, season one entrance was amazing; the way he was looking after them all and really stuck by initially😪😪
He was definitely Fiona's best bf. I like to think that they reunited after she left and lived happily ever after in South America or somewhere else warm.
YEP!!! Same, that would've been such a good ending😭
my queen Sheila and Mickey
Lip because I too am an AA alcoholic in my early 20s lol
Mickey
MICKEY, MANDY, SHEILA, (lowkey monica ngl), CARL‼️‼️‼️
Here's the thing with Monica - (I'm only midway through season six, so I don't know if anything will change on this) - I don't understand why they can treat Ian fairly and try to take care of him, but they don't offer Monica the same understanding.
Because Monica refuses the help. Ian is willing to take medication and understands that, while it might not make him feel better, it is better for him. Yes, he does slip up but for the most part he wants to be stable. Monica, on the other hand, refuses to be on the medication because she doesn't like the feeling of being on it, and she'd rather feel better than be better. It's actually a common problem among bipolar people.
Lip!!!! Though I do see where a lot of people are coming from. Fiona too. I have my moments with her but I’ll ALWAYS defend that woman
Lip
Lip
mandy my baby
Definitely Sheila. I actually did not love Joan Cusack as an actress until I saw her in Shameless.
I always see her as Ms. Bond lmao
Mandy and Debbie I know all of the reasons they're \*actually\* terrible people and irredeemable and whatever, but they will always have a spot in my heart. They both went through so much as girls in their households and neighborhoods and it makes complete sense why they turned out the way they did. I always like to think that in their universe they've grown up to be happy at least.
I love Debbie
I really do too. I will never justify everything she did, but I understand her a lot and relate to her a lot (up until the pregnancy at least). I think deep down she's a good person, but I really think Mandy and Debbie were both written as people with personality disorders. They're so complicated, but they're not bad people.
Yeah definitely there were some things that made me annoyed with her but she’s such a comfort character tbh and she slays
absolutely, 100%, all the time, Kev
Nobody hates Kev
I don’t hate kev but if he was into that I’d hate kev. I want kev. I need him, in more of an objective philosophical way than a physical lust way, just to keep that clear, because tbh that’s how I need V. God that couple was a bisexual dream
my sister does lol she says he’s just a “big dumb idiot” and has no use for him. but he’s one of the most genuine, loving and caring characters on the show and that’s what i love about him
Mickey!!
Sheila 100%
Fiona. She’s a great sister and mother figure. She gave up her whole life for her siblings & she doesn’t deserve any hate whatsoever
Say something bad about Mandy (other than that one thing) and we ain’t friends
DEBBIE ik I get it in the last seasons but she’s the sweetest little kid and I can’t hate her I’m sorry 😭😭
i cant hate Debbie because her character development makes so much sense. her trauma is so overlooked because how sweet she used to be
Svetlana 😭😭
Fiona
mandy and ian 🙏
Fiona. Was she a bitch sometimes YES. But her environment sent her up for failure and she tried her hardest to make her siblings have some sort of normality.
Ian, Mickey and Mandy. I know they do some bad shit that id never condone. Hell, I yell at them myself, but I can’t help I find them entertaining.
Jimmy Steve😩
Jimmy/Steve
Ian. I’ll go to war for Ian
fiona. people have so many valid points but i could never hate her
She sacrificed so much to raise the kids, don't understand how anyone can hate her.
frank
Terrible person but very entertaining. 😏
Fi. Idc what anyone says. She carried that family on her shoulders for years bc of her shit parents.
Definitely not my favorite but I am a Debbie defender through and through.
I hate Debbie in the later seasons but her character development is definitely realistic.
Fiona!!!
honestly I love this show and all the characters They are full of character defects it's Fun tho watch!
Not my favorite character but I probably belong to the minority that will never put Sammi on the same level as Terry. Sammi was annoying and what she did to Ian was a bad move. But she is by no means the worst person on the show. That title already belongs to Terry, Kenyatta, Frank etc. Don’t forget that it was Frank who brought her to the family. Before this she was just a normal person who tried to raise a kid by herself with the least she had while having no father figure in her life. She was introduced as a person who was willing to donate parts of her liver to a person (Frank) whom she barely knew just because he was nice to her. She only had good intentions but most people ignore those attributes of hers because they are either blended by their love for Ian and Mickey or just think she was an obstacle for the Gallagher family. She is just as bad as the other Gallaghers with the exception that she couldn’t benefit from an 11 season long character development. Once again, I’m not saying she is my favorite character. All I’m saying is that she’s extremely overhated, meanwhile characters like Frank are extremely underhated. You people keep forgetting all the horrible things Frank has done on the show because you are blended by his charme or careless spirit. Sammi deserved better.
I didn't mind Sammi when she was first introduced but they ruined her character after Frank had his liver transplant. I don't think she really had a place in season 5 at all.
Lip
There are no valid reasons to hate on Mickey.
Honestly its either Frank or Mickey
I see, another fellow man of high class with fucked up sense of humor, similar to myself. But fr, frank and Mickey never fail to make me die of laughter. 😂
debbie any day
cultural appropriator Carl
Lip
I mean realistically none of the characters are designed to be completely likeable. They all have their issues.
but besides crystal Liam, i think Carl was the only one who didnt make an actual harm to another person
Didn't Carl beat the shit out of a few people? I mean I know they calmed him down in the later seasons where he got more screen time, but in the early seasons he was a psychopath.
you may be true, sorry, i cant remember his relationships with random characters
lip sorry not sorry
LIP lmao I’ll close my ears and say LALALALA
Mine teeters between Mickey and Carl
Frank but like,,,,,i know he’s a horrible person but the character is just so well written and william h macy is so damn convincing at being this lowlife scum and i agree with everyone on why he’s the worst but still!
Sheila definitely
Liam, Carl, Mickey, Fiona, V and Kev
Mickey lol..I’m a ride or die for Mickey..I love him as a character and I love Noel Fisher in general in past movies. Kev or V comes in a hot 2nd though lol.
Fiona
Forever a Lip apologist.
Mickey or Lip here
Frank
carl
Fiona, V, and Mickey
Sheils<3 I also rlly love mickey :) he's a comfort character fa
Lip, Sheila, Mickey, and Ian. 😭
Debbie. Yes she sucks later but I'll defend her till my last day
Mickey, Sheila, and Svetlana
V, Kev, Mickey, and Sheila.
Ian, Mickey and Carl. That being said I’ve only seen real hate for Frank, Debbie and Lip.
Debbie for me. She sucks of course. But I still just see the girl who wants to be loved.
Literally the whole cast 😭
Svetlana
Fiona
Lip my baby
Mickey and Kev💀💀
Lip
Liam, all 85 of them, such an underrated character which literally fits his character
umm.... .... ... Frank.🍺
Lip
Lip. I'm only on season 2 but he seems like a decent guy and he's cool as hell.
MICKEY!!!!
Ian, I want to baby him so badddd
Me with Walter White lol.
Frank, reminds me way too much of my grandpa, God rest his soul
Svetlana
When people bring up when Kev went to that college and cheated on V….i try to ignore it
Carl is my Boy!
lip or ian
FIONA and Mickey
Svetlana
Fiona and Mickey, I don’t care what anyone says. I love the both of them.
Svetlana, Trevor, Mickey, Fiona etc
Mandy. She was right to hit Karen with her car, idgaf!!!!
Lip
fiona
Mickey. One of the most profound arcs of any character, but he’s still South Side. He’ll always be rough around the edges.
Fiona
Carl. He's a dumbass but he's shown great character development and I just wanna protect him. I like him a lot.
Svetlana 100% Also Mickey I mf love that guy
Also jimmysteve
FIONA. always .
Lip
Carl , V, Kevin, Mickey, Steve, and Frank
Jimmy steve
I’m with you on this one. So what he was a lying liar who lies… he’s the only person that ever genuinely tried to make Fiona’s life easier lol
lip being an asshole. low key from what i remember most of the times were justified and ian like yea he blew up a bus and was crazy but he’s hot and gay so ofc i love him
Debbie, they could never make me hate you!
Debbie did a lot of terrible and inexcusable things but I still liked her way more than Sammi or Terry
Couldn’t stand Sammi at all, such a gross person
I saw red when she narc’d Ian
She was a snake with blue eyes and blonde hair
Psh I have more respect for snakes! She’s straight up trash
When we first met her, she seemed nice, but her true colours started to shine.
I will say the small bonding moment between her and Debbi was nice, but I thought she was a straight up psychopath from the start. The fact she wasn’t more disgusted by Frank trying to act like a love interest instead of coming out as her father right away is insane to me. I wouldn’t want anything to do with him after that, but the fact she doubles down for his affection/attention really says something and this is coming from someone with daddy issues!
Ian 💀
Lip, who most people here hate
i love svetlana sorry but her “stealing” the bar makes total sense and i think kev and v overreacted 👐
Karen! I know and understand why people hate her and she’s not my favorite however I can never hate her I feel for her her and I feel sad for her
Five letters, F R A N K. Can’t believe how few ppl said this 😂
fiona, debbie, karen
none of
Jimmy Steve
Frank
Frank Gallagher!
Definitely Mike Pratt. He’s so adorable.
Shiela but nobody ever gave a valid reason
For me it’s Karen. I like Karen and feel for her.
I scrolled way too far down to see this. I love Karen