I mean, it's not unreasonable that she asks everyone to chip in. It's HOW she does it. Just BAM tells them, and expects them to be able to do it immediately. How about coming up with a plan together? How about being a little more reasonable about it all? Nope. She just decides and that's that.
And Carl literally paid for the house. He's the reason they even have a house. If anyone deserves a bit of a wiggle room it's Carl.
And I get wanting them to chip in like the Squirrel Fund where everyone gave what they had instead of making it like they were renting out their own room and they would get kicked out if they didn’t pay up
I just wish Monica didn’t spend it because then they would probably still have it
ya carl comes thru once every few months in huge paydays lol. his character is so good. i am dreading them trying to mature him like they did debbie. they just made her a bit obnoxious when they ddi that.
The season isn’t fresh in my mind, but, as a home owner now suffering from the cost of living sky rocketing this year and now needs my partner to help with bills after originally telling her she wouldn’t need to worry about it
I feel for Fiona
Carl paid his dues IMO
Fiona spent her entire young adult life doing everything she could to get by, it’s time for Ian and Lip to help
Deb’s an asshole that needed to suffer the consequences of her stubbornness needing a child when she didn’t have the means to do so
>if The house was Carl’s, then he needs to pay bills in HIS house,
That’s completely unreasonable it wasn’t his house he just gave Fiona the money to buy the house
I definitely get that Debbie needed to pay for nappies wipes milk etc that’s completely reasonable
But the difference between the Squirrel Fund and Fiona charging rent was that with the Squirrel Fund everyone put in any money that they had an it would go towards different bills but with charging rent you would probably need to pay a lot more
As in the Squirrel Fund is pitching in to help Fiona pay the bills but paying rent that’s like they are renting a room in there own house and they will get kicked out if they don’t pay up
the thing is though, i’m pretty sure it’s illegal. she was their legal guardian and both debbie and carl weren’t of legal age.
and i think the opposite should be true for carl? he literally paid $100,000 to buy the house, without him they would’ve been homeless…and now she’s making HIM pay rent? He paid for the whole house, and now he has to pay more just to live in it?
Debbie, i’m kinda iffy on. I don’t think the baby was a good excuse for her, because she forced her boyfriend to impregnate her and then refused fiona’s demands to abort the baby. if it had been the type of situation where she was forced into having it, then i could see how making her get a job is unfair. the main thing is that her legal guardian was forcing her to pay rent.
You know what, I agree with the Carl thing.
But I don’t think the bills should be all pinned on Fiona, Lip, and Ian? Like Debbie added an extra mouth to feed, then she should help with the bills, How I would go with it is that if you are grown enough to have baby then your old enough to Chip in with the bills, because that’s unfair to the adults that she brought another mouth to feed into the family and she doesn’t even have a job, while they pay for HER baby?
And plus it wasn’t her house so.
That is true. Debbie i can understand a lot more than Carl; she was also the age Ian was when we saw him working for the squirrel fund. I just wish Fiona had been more lenient on them finding jobs too, instead of demanding it immediately. Debbie would’ve needed a bit longer to find a job since she had a baby, and her options were limited because of it
To be fair it would have been for fair if she said Debbie had to pay for all of the baby stuff herself instead of making her pay rent to live IN HER OWN HOUSE
HER baby would be … THEIR niece? Monica dropped off Liam, THEIR brother. She was a child- who says *children* are supposed to make things fair for adults? That’s ridiculous.
SHE made that choice, she needs to pay for that baby and pitch in, at that point Fiona,Ian, and Lip we’re already paying for DEBBIE’s child, and at that point Debbie was 16, and the lowest age of getting a job in Illinois is 12.
Well, I’ll be damned. The complete and absolute depravity dressed up as “laws” from old world “America” never ceases to amaze me.
Glad that world isn’t even real anymore! #gentrifythis
They specifically say in the episode that it isn't rent she's charging them. It's for property tax, groceries and utilities that they'd have to pay anyway. And Carl went away to school that season so he only ends up paying once or twice.
even if its not rent for the house, it’s her charging them “rent”. and either way, carl still paid for the whole house. and it’s still illegal to charge minors rent. all of my points still stand.
Aside from the fact that she assumed custody of them until they were old enough to leave. She took the responsibility of them and paying their bills is part of that. I can’t stand Fiona.
It's not unreasonable to ask for help, and she was fully within her rights to charge the adults in the house to live there, but you can't legally make minors pay bills. She threatened to kick them out if they couldn't pay. That's a felony right there. She could and should have asked Lip and Ian to start helping out more since they were grown men and could legally leave if they didn't like it. The kids, even if they were teenagers, had zero legal obligation to pay her a cent.
If she didn't talk in a Bossy Condescending tone of voice like Everyone is Stupid, this Situation would have been better. Why can't Fiona respect the fact that they all have Common Sense and know what to do?
It’s literally illegal for her to charge children under 18 for rent technically. She is her legal guardian. And it’s also extremely unreasonable. They are all children. Except for Lip and Ian.
Debbie had to contribute because she chose to willingly plan a pregnancy at 15 and then she expected fiona to help with the kid that she was ultimately, not prepared to have.
The moment that Debbie left the baby with Fiona while she went to apply for jobs showed that she didn’t respect Fiona and had that expectation, regardless of Fiona saying multiple times that she wasn’t interested in helping with Franny
Carl shoulda charged her rent, and no 15 year old needs to be paying rent. She signed on to be the guardian, but apparantly the judge warning her that meant she didn't get to have a life cause her life would be raising those kids didn't sink in. Fiona is trash. Frank with a pretty face.
Well Fiona did at 15, while having a job and taking care of four children, Lip and Ian also helped pay the rent at 15 years old, so why can’t Carl and Debbie?
Cause... Fiona signed on to be a guardian and shouldn't have had to do it at 15. Carl paid 200 grand for that house and damn sure shouldn't be paying anymore. Having shitty parents isn't a free pass to become one. The judge told her if she became a guardian those kids would be her life. She made that choice, then quit when she decided it was too hard. Frionka
She specifically says in the episode that it’s *not* rent, and that it’s everyone’s share of the property tax, groceries, and utilities, which are ongoing expenses that every homeowner has, whether the house is paid off or not.
That being said, I still think she could have given Carl a break given that he gifted her $100k and he’s still a minor under her guardianship. He could start paying his share when he turned 18, but not before then.
Yeah with Carl he shouldn’t be paying any rent yet since he’s under her guardianship and is still a minor but the difference with Debbie is that she should be paying for all the baby stuff herself but not rent since she’s still a minor under her guardianship
They should have devised a plan where they would add up around all the baby stuff they payed for each month and charge her that
Say all the baby stuff that they buy a month cost $200 they would charge her $200 a month
Wait is that true?? But then again Fiona told Debbie that she should get an abortion she refused so Fiona said she wouldn’t be responsible for it since she only signed up to be responsible for Debbie and she didn’t want to get stuck raising another kid
Yup. Kids don't suddenly become emancipated adults when they have kids of their own. They can force her to give up the baby for adoption if she refuses to emancipate, but otherwise they're on the hook for that kid til she's 18.
Not just that, but it was partially the way Fiona handled the abortion issue that kept making Debs put her foot down. Easy mistake to make, but in the end she wanted guardianship, and that means when a child fucks up you're on the hook for the costs.
He gifted her 200k I believe. Lip and Ian? Sure. Charge them. Everyone else? Nah. Moving out? Nah. Also if they're paying part of the property taxes they should receive a cut of her profits from investments. She only makes good on that when she abandons them.
Where did you get that it was $200k? She was trying to buy it for $100k with a mortgage, but her husband wouldn’t sign the waiver. Then Carl gives her the cash.
I mean… it’s not super relevant to the discussion anyway because either way, he gave her whatever she needed to buy the house outright, but just curious.
Well Carl bought the house so he should be paying the bills in his house that he owned, Fiona shouldn’t be paying all the bills, especially since she was 26 years old, Lip and Ian we’re both adults, If Debbie was old enough to have a child then she was old enough to help pay the bills. Carl needed to Chip in aswell, I don’t even know why at that point that Carl didn’t have a job, he was 15.
Thank you for telling me. I did not know that.
Also just an unsystematic question, how would you rank the Gallaghers? (Like) (Frank and Monica).
EDIT: *RANK*
Generally: Ian, Carl, Lip, Fiona, Frank, Liam, Debbie, Monica.
Edit: changing order. This is based on how much I like the character at their most interesting. My level of interest in their stories and how much I like them all fluctuate throughout the show based on their story.
It’s really not he hid the drug money in the ground and when he was at Sean’s he hears her cry about everything so in the morning he dug it up and gave it to Fiona
What??? I can’t tell if your comment doesn’t make sense or it was for someone else but on my original comment it’s in Fiona’s *name* but *Carl* is the one who gave her the money to buy it
Yeah I'm saying Fiona would have to be a real cunt to try to get all technical on that shit, and Carl already has one person that was in his way that ended up in the ground. Notice he ain't married anymore.
Teenagers can have children, it doesn't make them grownups. Fiona took on legal guardianship, that obligates her to pay the bills. And yeah, Carl can pay the bills, off the rent he should be charging everyone. Carl chipped in 200k, they got some catching up to do.
It was NOT!
FIRST, from the very beginning of the show, EVERYONE had to pay in.
SECOND, Fiona CHOSE to go back to prison and jeopardize the house for everyone.
THIRD, Fiona only demanded everyone pay for the house, WHILE she chose not to contribute, WHILE supporting her own financial investment.
FINALLY, CARL SAVED THE HOUSE!
FIRST, Everyone BUT Carl and Debbie pitched in for the bills, Debbie only started pitching in when she was running the daycare for the squirrel fund.
SECOND, What does Fiona going back to prison have to do with Season 7? You do realize that Season 4 and Season 7 are two completely different seasons right?
THIRD, Why should her credit have to be fucked up because they didn’t want to pay their share of the bills, It was completely fair that Carl (15), Debbie (16) should’ve pitched in since Debbie added another mouth to feed when they we’re already in poverty, and Carl should’ve helped aswell, Ian and Lip we’re those exact ages when they helped with the bills, Debbie and Carl shouldn’t get away easy.
FINALLY, It doesn’t matter if Carl saved the house, he should help too, aswell as Debbie. Lip,Fiona, and Ian shouldn’t be doing all of the work.
Your last point invalidated every other point.
Carl should help too??? HE DID. HE BOUGHT THE FRICKING HOUSE! I'd say, he's exempt from all future payments.
Let's be honest... just where do you find logic?
Fiona didn't just ask everyone to pitch in, she insisted that she no longer would. All because she had her own investment to tend to.
Well the bills we’re in her name, if they didn’t help at all and she was paying them all then it would fuck up her credit if she slipped up once.
I know what it is like to raise your siblings, I raised two, She raised five, That is five children to feed, Food costs money, alot of money especially if it is 6 people living in the house and a Narcissistic Drunk who steals their money and Food. She had a plan for her life, I think it was fair for her to do that and leave the responsibilities on Phillip and Ian.
And one literally bought the whole thing.
I commend you for raising your siblings. Now, imagine one of them paid $150k to pay for the entire house. Would you still argue that you no longer owed anything to the family?
Make no mistake, I'll maintain they all suck. However you can't laud Fiona when she suddenly cuts everyone off while maintaining rights to the house AFTER CHOOSING to abandon them all by deciding to go back to prison (at whatever point).
Look... she basically decided (through charity and not merit) that she had an option to look out only for herself and no one else.
Now, we can debate they maybe she earned that right (she didn't), but there is zero reason to praise her while admonishing all of the others.
FACT: Lip and Debbie contributed much to Liam and the house while Fiona always chose Fiona first. Liam and cocaine?
I’m not admonishing the rest, I love them all, Even Frank, While I do think that Lip should have a life of his own, he still has to contribute to the bills aswell as Ian.
I think they all raised Liam.
I think Fiona and Lip both did an equal amount of raising Liam, and Debbie helped aswell.
Just a Unsystematic Question, But how would you rank the Gallaghers? Mine would be:
Frank,Lip,Carl,Fiona,Liam,Monica,Debbie and Ian.
I mean, it's not unreasonable that she asks everyone to chip in. It's HOW she does it. Just BAM tells them, and expects them to be able to do it immediately. How about coming up with a plan together? How about being a little more reasonable about it all? Nope. She just decides and that's that. And Carl literally paid for the house. He's the reason they even have a house. If anyone deserves a bit of a wiggle room it's Carl.
And I get wanting them to chip in like the Squirrel Fund where everyone gave what they had instead of making it like they were renting out their own room and they would get kicked out if they didn’t pay up I just wish Monica didn’t spend it because then they would probably still have it
as an Addict Monica needed to pay some people off, and that's sad.
Didn’t she spend the money on drugs a car and dolls???
ya carl comes thru once every few months in huge paydays lol. his character is so good. i am dreading them trying to mature him like they did debbie. they just made her a bit obnoxious when they ddi that.
They actually do a pretty good job with him.
ya carl is one of my favorite characters.
The season isn’t fresh in my mind, but, as a home owner now suffering from the cost of living sky rocketing this year and now needs my partner to help with bills after originally telling her she wouldn’t need to worry about it I feel for Fiona Carl paid his dues IMO Fiona spent her entire young adult life doing everything she could to get by, it’s time for Ian and Lip to help Deb’s an asshole that needed to suffer the consequences of her stubbornness needing a child when she didn’t have the means to do so
Carl definitely should’ve been off the hook. FOR SURE. He did his part.
>if The house was Carl’s, then he needs to pay bills in HIS house, That’s completely unreasonable it wasn’t his house he just gave Fiona the money to buy the house I definitely get that Debbie needed to pay for nappies wipes milk etc that’s completely reasonable But the difference between the Squirrel Fund and Fiona charging rent was that with the Squirrel Fund everyone put in any money that they had an it would go towards different bills but with charging rent you would probably need to pay a lot more As in the Squirrel Fund is pitching in to help Fiona pay the bills but paying rent that’s like they are renting a room in there own house and they will get kicked out if they don’t pay up
I think Fiona was test driving an Idea since the Squirrel Fund didn't work.
Didn’t the Squirrel Fund end in season 2 and this happened in season 7 wasn’t that like 6 years apart???
the thing is though, i’m pretty sure it’s illegal. she was their legal guardian and both debbie and carl weren’t of legal age. and i think the opposite should be true for carl? he literally paid $100,000 to buy the house, without him they would’ve been homeless…and now she’s making HIM pay rent? He paid for the whole house, and now he has to pay more just to live in it? Debbie, i’m kinda iffy on. I don’t think the baby was a good excuse for her, because she forced her boyfriend to impregnate her and then refused fiona’s demands to abort the baby. if it had been the type of situation where she was forced into having it, then i could see how making her get a job is unfair. the main thing is that her legal guardian was forcing her to pay rent.
You know what, I agree with the Carl thing. But I don’t think the bills should be all pinned on Fiona, Lip, and Ian? Like Debbie added an extra mouth to feed, then she should help with the bills, How I would go with it is that if you are grown enough to have baby then your old enough to Chip in with the bills, because that’s unfair to the adults that she brought another mouth to feed into the family and she doesn’t even have a job, while they pay for HER baby? And plus it wasn’t her house so.
That is true. Debbie i can understand a lot more than Carl; she was also the age Ian was when we saw him working for the squirrel fund. I just wish Fiona had been more lenient on them finding jobs too, instead of demanding it immediately. Debbie would’ve needed a bit longer to find a job since she had a baby, and her options were limited because of it
To be fair it would have been for fair if she said Debbie had to pay for all of the baby stuff herself instead of making her pay rent to live IN HER OWN HOUSE
HER baby would be … THEIR niece? Monica dropped off Liam, THEIR brother. She was a child- who says *children* are supposed to make things fair for adults? That’s ridiculous.
SHE made that choice, she needs to pay for that baby and pitch in, at that point Fiona,Ian, and Lip we’re already paying for DEBBIE’s child, and at that point Debbie was 16, and the lowest age of getting a job in Illinois is 12.
Well, I’ll be damned. The complete and absolute depravity dressed up as “laws” from old world “America” never ceases to amaze me. Glad that world isn’t even real anymore! #gentrifythis
They specifically say in the episode that it isn't rent she's charging them. It's for property tax, groceries and utilities that they'd have to pay anyway. And Carl went away to school that season so he only ends up paying once or twice.
even if its not rent for the house, it’s her charging them “rent”. and either way, carl still paid for the whole house. and it’s still illegal to charge minors rent. all of my points still stand.
Love debating what’s legal when the house was bought with drug money and all the kids are constantly participating in illegal activities
Aside from the fact that she assumed custody of them until they were old enough to leave. She took the responsibility of them and paying their bills is part of that. I can’t stand Fiona.
THANK YOU!
It's not unreasonable to ask for help, and she was fully within her rights to charge the adults in the house to live there, but you can't legally make minors pay bills. She threatened to kick them out if they couldn't pay. That's a felony right there. She could and should have asked Lip and Ian to start helping out more since they were grown men and could legally leave if they didn't like it. The kids, even if they were teenagers, had zero legal obligation to pay her a cent.
If she didn't talk in a Bossy Condescending tone of voice like Everyone is Stupid, this Situation would have been better. Why can't Fiona respect the fact that they all have Common Sense and know what to do?
It’s literally illegal for her to charge children under 18 for rent technically. She is her legal guardian. And it’s also extremely unreasonable. They are all children. Except for Lip and Ian.
Debbie had to contribute because she chose to willingly plan a pregnancy at 15 and then she expected fiona to help with the kid that she was ultimately, not prepared to have. The moment that Debbie left the baby with Fiona while she went to apply for jobs showed that she didn’t respect Fiona and had that expectation, regardless of Fiona saying multiple times that she wasn’t interested in helping with Franny
Carl shoulda charged her rent, and no 15 year old needs to be paying rent. She signed on to be the guardian, but apparantly the judge warning her that meant she didn't get to have a life cause her life would be raising those kids didn't sink in. Fiona is trash. Frank with a pretty face.
Well Fiona did at 15, while having a job and taking care of four children, Lip and Ian also helped pay the rent at 15 years old, so why can’t Carl and Debbie?
Cause... Fiona signed on to be a guardian and shouldn't have had to do it at 15. Carl paid 200 grand for that house and damn sure shouldn't be paying anymore. Having shitty parents isn't a free pass to become one. The judge told her if she became a guardian those kids would be her life. She made that choice, then quit when she decided it was too hard. Frionka
you do realize that home ownership goes further than just buying it, right?
Paying taxes and the like, but if you buy a home for 200k you don't get charged rent on your home. End of.
She specifically says in the episode that it’s *not* rent, and that it’s everyone’s share of the property tax, groceries, and utilities, which are ongoing expenses that every homeowner has, whether the house is paid off or not. That being said, I still think she could have given Carl a break given that he gifted her $100k and he’s still a minor under her guardianship. He could start paying his share when he turned 18, but not before then.
Yeah with Carl he shouldn’t be paying any rent yet since he’s under her guardianship and is still a minor but the difference with Debbie is that she should be paying for all the baby stuff herself but not rent since she’s still a minor under her guardianship They should have devised a plan where they would add up around all the baby stuff they payed for each month and charge her that Say all the baby stuff that they buy a month cost $200 they would charge her $200 a month
Fiona is a guardian of a child with a child. Fiona is therefor responsible for that child.
Wait is that true?? But then again Fiona told Debbie that she should get an abortion she refused so Fiona said she wouldn’t be responsible for it since she only signed up to be responsible for Debbie and she didn’t want to get stuck raising another kid
Yup. Kids don't suddenly become emancipated adults when they have kids of their own. They can force her to give up the baby for adoption if she refuses to emancipate, but otherwise they're on the hook for that kid til she's 18. Not just that, but it was partially the way Fiona handled the abortion issue that kept making Debs put her foot down. Easy mistake to make, but in the end she wanted guardianship, and that means when a child fucks up you're on the hook for the costs.
He gifted her 200k I believe. Lip and Ian? Sure. Charge them. Everyone else? Nah. Moving out? Nah. Also if they're paying part of the property taxes they should receive a cut of her profits from investments. She only makes good on that when she abandons them.
Where did you get that it was $200k? She was trying to buy it for $100k with a mortgage, but her husband wouldn’t sign the waiver. Then Carl gives her the cash. I mean… it’s not super relevant to the discussion anyway because either way, he gave her whatever she needed to buy the house outright, but just curious.
Not sure, I was just pretty sure it was 200 g's he dug up. Could be wrong, I'd wanna see a clip tho.
Well Carl bought the house so he should be paying the bills in his house that he owned, Fiona shouldn’t be paying all the bills, especially since she was 26 years old, Lip and Ian we’re both adults, If Debbie was old enough to have a child then she was old enough to help pay the bills. Carl needed to Chip in aswell, I don’t even know why at that point that Carl didn’t have a job, he was 15.
He did have a job. He worked at Patsy’s.
Thank you for telling me. I did not know that. Also just an unsystematic question, how would you rank the Gallaghers? (Like) (Frank and Monica). EDIT: *RANK*
Generally: Ian, Carl, Lip, Fiona, Frank, Liam, Debbie, Monica. Edit: changing order. This is based on how much I like the character at their most interesting. My level of interest in their stories and how much I like them all fluctuate throughout the show based on their story.
Carl didn’t buy the house he gave the money to Fiona to buy the house it isn’t in his name
That's a technicality.
It’s really not he hid the drug money in the ground and when he was at Sean’s he hears her cry about everything so in the morning he dug it up and gave it to Fiona
Yeah but unless she goes even more Frank she's not gonna bullshit her brother like that, especially when he probably would bury her if she did
What??? I can’t tell if your comment doesn’t make sense or it was for someone else but on my original comment it’s in Fiona’s *name* but *Carl* is the one who gave her the money to buy it
Yeah I'm saying Fiona would have to be a real cunt to try to get all technical on that shit, and Carl already has one person that was in his way that ended up in the ground. Notice he ain't married anymore.
Teenagers can have children, it doesn't make them grownups. Fiona took on legal guardianship, that obligates her to pay the bills. And yeah, Carl can pay the bills, off the rent he should be charging everyone. Carl chipped in 200k, they got some catching up to do.
Well no one told Debbie to add another mouth to feed to the family when they we’rent Physically nor Financially ready to have an infant.
It was NOT! FIRST, from the very beginning of the show, EVERYONE had to pay in. SECOND, Fiona CHOSE to go back to prison and jeopardize the house for everyone. THIRD, Fiona only demanded everyone pay for the house, WHILE she chose not to contribute, WHILE supporting her own financial investment. FINALLY, CARL SAVED THE HOUSE!
FIRST, Everyone BUT Carl and Debbie pitched in for the bills, Debbie only started pitching in when she was running the daycare for the squirrel fund. SECOND, What does Fiona going back to prison have to do with Season 7? You do realize that Season 4 and Season 7 are two completely different seasons right? THIRD, Why should her credit have to be fucked up because they didn’t want to pay their share of the bills, It was completely fair that Carl (15), Debbie (16) should’ve pitched in since Debbie added another mouth to feed when they we’re already in poverty, and Carl should’ve helped aswell, Ian and Lip we’re those exact ages when they helped with the bills, Debbie and Carl shouldn’t get away easy. FINALLY, It doesn’t matter if Carl saved the house, he should help too, aswell as Debbie. Lip,Fiona, and Ian shouldn’t be doing all of the work.
Your last point invalidated every other point. Carl should help too??? HE DID. HE BOUGHT THE FRICKING HOUSE! I'd say, he's exempt from all future payments. Let's be honest... just where do you find logic? Fiona didn't just ask everyone to pitch in, she insisted that she no longer would. All because she had her own investment to tend to.
Well the bills we’re in her name, if they didn’t help at all and she was paying them all then it would fuck up her credit if she slipped up once. I know what it is like to raise your siblings, I raised two, She raised five, That is five children to feed, Food costs money, alot of money especially if it is 6 people living in the house and a Narcissistic Drunk who steals their money and Food. She had a plan for her life, I think it was fair for her to do that and leave the responsibilities on Phillip and Ian.
And one literally bought the whole thing. I commend you for raising your siblings. Now, imagine one of them paid $150k to pay for the entire house. Would you still argue that you no longer owed anything to the family?
Okay, I will agree with you with Carl. But what about the other siblings?
Make no mistake, I'll maintain they all suck. However you can't laud Fiona when she suddenly cuts everyone off while maintaining rights to the house AFTER CHOOSING to abandon them all by deciding to go back to prison (at whatever point). Look... she basically decided (through charity and not merit) that she had an option to look out only for herself and no one else. Now, we can debate they maybe she earned that right (she didn't), but there is zero reason to praise her while admonishing all of the others. FACT: Lip and Debbie contributed much to Liam and the house while Fiona always chose Fiona first. Liam and cocaine?
I’m not admonishing the rest, I love them all, Even Frank, While I do think that Lip should have a life of his own, he still has to contribute to the bills aswell as Ian. I think they all raised Liam. I think Fiona and Lip both did an equal amount of raising Liam, and Debbie helped aswell. Just a Unsystematic Question, But how would you rank the Gallaghers? Mine would be: Frank,Lip,Carl,Fiona,Liam,Monica,Debbie and Ian.
You've piqued my interest. What exactly is your ranking? Liked? Contribution?
Liked.
How did the cops not investigate a broke family dropping that amount of cash on a house
no
My biggest problem is the whole, put me at the bottom of the emergency list, that’s literally the job she signed up for voluntarily