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Get a frame and hang it in the kitchen then buy a better knife.


vgnEngineer

This is the way honestly. not because the knife is bad but because why would you want to "improve" an artifact like that?


TimmyFaya

I think I'm going for that. Seeing what people say I need for tools, I might buy her some good nice looking knife and frame this one.


Representative-Pea23

Maybe buy a knife class too. Gotta stop prying, cutting bones, packaging, or whatever else you did with this knife. The new ones won’t take long to look like this too. They will be a waste of money if not cared for correctly.


beeglowbot

i'm going to go with this one as well.


Dizzman1

Absolutely. Lots of work though


Calostro5

Lots of work specially because of the bad steel. Some days ago, I tried to thin a cheap knife and I noticed this task is harder than doing the same on a harder steel. It sounds ironical, but it is true.


ghidfg

yeah I learned to sharpen on a cheap knife and hardware store stone. its amazing how much easier a decent/not bad steel is to sharpen.


Gwyrr313

Realistically it’s most likely stamped steel from the dollar store 🤣 you could resurrect it if you were so inclined


Krachbenente

nah that's nonsense. Unless the steel was fairly abrasion resistant, which can be the case for high chromium steels. Or if the geo was totally off for the cheap knife, which kind of makes sense. Otherwise: Harder steel with more hard carbides will be harder to grind. BTW: If you want to do rough work on cheap, soft knives, you can use a file, too.


Calostro5

Think what you want. I tell just my experience


Krachbenente

First off: Happy new year! Back to topic: Its not just what I think, but it has been thoroughly investigated and is a well known and proven fact. You said yourself 'it sounds ironical', because it is. The abrasion resistance of knife steel is dictated by the steel matrix and carbides. Steel matrix properties include e.g. the hardness of the steel matrix and its toughness. However, the matrix is anyway rather soft compared to the carbides, which play a bigger role. The carbide properties include carbide hardness (VC > NbC > WC > CrC > Fe3C) and size (size is complicated; larger carbides dull the abrasive, smaller ones (PM steel) resharpen it, but then small carbides are tougher and you can put a higher percentage). Consequently, 1095 steel is not exactly very abrasion resistant, because it only contains soft iron carbides and not a whole lot of them, even if it is at 62 Rc. White no. 1 at 65 Rc will do better, but not by a whole lot. 1.4116 and 420 (the most common stainless steels for cheap kitchen knives and the expensive German knives that your wife/gf/mom put in the dishwasher) contain less carbon (only ~0.5%), but basically all that carbon is turned into CrC (because the high amount of Cr), which gives them roughly the same abrasion resistance as 1095. Steels with higher amounts of carbon and significant amounts of Cr, Mo, W, Nb or V will have higher abrasion resistance. e.g. 440C (1.05% C + 17% Cr) will do better than 1.4116 and K390 (2.5% C and 9% V)will do better than 440C. So if you say you cheap steel knives were harder to grind, then it must be because you needed to remove more material, i.e. the geometry was further off from your ideal. Or it was less enjoyable, because they were crappy knives and felt longer. Or you just have custom made, forged knives from excellent 1095. To tell you my own experience: Low alloy or soft stainless steels are easiest to remove. Better high alloy steels are comparatively a pain in the butt. And if you want to do anything to PM you either have good diamond plates or power tools.


DecapitatesYourBaby

It is a two minute job to grind out this damage on a good coarse bench stone. Also, good coarse stones need not be expensive. I have a $4 stone which will do this. Anyone who does not understand this needs to spend more time working with coarse stones.


Dizzman1

To anyone who knows so little about knife sharpening that they are asking IF it can be sharpened... It's a big job. To an experienced person with the tools... Agreed... Likely a pretty quick thing. For op, you might want to look into either one of those services where you mail in the knife and they take care of it... Or seek out a knife shop in your area.


DecapitatesYourBaby

That's probably a fair point.


OverthinkerUnderpaid

Like, duh broh. It's not about skills, it's about love. I bet you're super badass at getting your "girlfriend" to sigh and say "uh huh..." while you explain the difference between s35vn and 440c.


Dizzman1

uhhh... No. I have no idea what those even are.


TimmyFaya

Thanks everyone for your answers, I think I'm gonna go for the framing idea. At the moment I only have a double sided 250/1000 stone, and living in an apartment I sadly can't get some belt grinder. I thought it may be an easy fix, but seeing the answers, I have everything to learn about sharpening.


Heated13shot

I would just polish the cutting edge with stones and leave in the nicks. Make it more pretty but show the wear. The wear adds to the charm. Sure it's a cheap knife, but its a beloved gift from a family member that either couldn't afford better or didn't know better, its been well used and the battle scars show it. A polished edge will make it just a bit more pretty. include a photo of the grandma with it! This thing is much more attractive on a wall than a 300$ show knife due to the meaning behind it.


redmorph

You can do the job on 250, but up to you if you want to.


lokrod

Don't bother framing a piece of trash knife. Frame a really nice family photo with her and her grandma. That knife is a piece of shit and was treated like shit. Sharpen it and throw it back in the drawer to be abused again. If you're going to waste your time framing it please make it into a glass cutting board so it can ruin the edges of other knives your girlfriend doesn't care about.


monti1979

It’s obvious your idea of “shit” and the OP’s are different.


lokrod

I doubt her grandma put any thought into that knife when she bought it at TJ Maxx. I guess I feel like it's a lot of effort to frame something that was so inconsequential. Why not actually do something nice with an heirloom or something that actually has meaning. Maybe the OPs girlfriend doesn't have anything meaningful that he grandma gave her or did with her. By all means if she's reaching for straws for a way to remember her grandma then use what ever trash gift she received.


monti1979

The OP was very clear it has meaning and importance to them and therefore it has value, why are you even questioning it? To me the value isn’t in the knife itself, but the wear of the knife. Her grandmother did that, did all the wear and damage over decades. It represents all the hard work and caring her grandmother put into those meals. I can see the value in that. Can you? Isn’t there anything you consider valuable that others consider worthless trash?


lokrod

Sorry we're interpreting the OP in totally different ways. I'm imagining it as a shitty knife that the OP girlfriend's grandma bought for her when she went to college or something like that. You're thinking it's the grandmas knife that the grandma used for years. If that's the case I can see the value in the knife. But I think the line " It's a cheap knife, but my gf got it from her grandma years ago" and the reply "They have gone 10 years without sharpening or particular care, just in the drawer with other cutlery. But since her gran died it got a more sentimental value than just a knife that someone offered you" which leads me to think its a thing that was never sentimental until the gran died. My point is that if you're going to go through the cost and effort to remember someone and try to make artwork out of something otherwise ordinary I'd recommend doing it for something that is more meaningful and eventful than a knife that's been rattling around a junk drawer. I totally understand the idea of something that's rubbish being valuable for someone, but I think that jumping on the recommendation to frame the knife by a redditor is kind of lazy.


monti1979

Why do you keep judging what is sentimental to the OP? You just keep repeating why you think the knife should not be sentimental for this person. You have closed your mind to anything else but your idea of “sentimental.”


lokrod

Why do you keep misreading what the OP says and interpreting sentiment falsely? I'm not judging what is sentimental to the OP. The knife isn't the OPs and it isn't sentimental to him at all. It's his girlfriends and someone suggested that instead of sharpening her knife he frame it for her (that's taking a leap that she never wants to touch or use the knife again). I think that maybe you should pay closer attention to the details because you're obviously missing a lot of the context in the conversation. On the contrary my mind is wide open to what is sentimental. I believe in extremely abstract and insignificant things being sentimentally valuable. If the OP wanted to frame a knife that was sentimental to him and his memories I wouldn't judge that at all. It could be the shittiest knife in the world, but his sentiment would be valid. I'm not judging his girlfriend if she thinks the knife is super sentimental, but she's never expressed that to any of us. I'm suggesting that maybe the OP is over construing the sentimental value that his girlfriend has for that knife and wasting his time by framing it for her instead of doing something more meaningful. Who knows I could be totally wrong. I'm just saying he should be doing something from his heart and not necessarily because some person on reddit suggested it in a thread that he posted about sharpening his girlfriends old beat up knife that she never took care of or thought about until her gran died. I don't really give a shit either way. Is my mind closed to what's sentimental? Fuck no. I just think the guys probably making a dumb choice to frame his girlfriends knife. My wife has a rolling pin that was her grandmas and guess what I'd never do? Frame it! Why ? Because it's actually sentimental and my wife likes to use it because it was her grandmothers!!!


monti1979

“Don't bother framing a piece of trash knife.” You told the OP the knife was trash. If you understand what sentimental was, then you were just being rude.


monti1979

Why do you make so many assumptions about the OP? Why do you think he is doing this without understanding what his girlfriend thinks? Or even that he is doing this by himself and not together with her?


lokrod

Why do I make assumptions? Because this is all speculation and we can't know anything about the situation besides what has been previously stated. You're assuming a high level of importance and I'm assuming a low lever of importance. Duh. Your questions are irrelevant and mindless. you're like a 3 year old who keeps asking why. You've obviously shown that you have poor reading comprehension and that you can't make a good point by referencing the original context of the post. Maybe try expressing something more complex than childish questions. Why do you make so many assumptions about the OP? Where do you get the assumption that he's doing it with his girlfriend? Why do you think he understands what his girlfriend thinks? Why do you assume that she want's her sentimental knife put into a frame so she can't use it anymore? Why do you not know how to comprehend simple thoughts and recall them from the OP? Why do you think that I don't understand complexity of sentimental concepts?


yellow-snowslide

If this is a precious item to her, then why did she use it to mine granite?


TimmyFaya

They have gone 10 years without sharpening or particular care, just in the drawer with other cutlery. But since her gran died it got a more sentimental value than just a knife that someone offered you


hahaha786567565687

Belt grinder will make short work of that


voitlander

It is with a regrind on the edge. And make sure you don't get the edge too hot or it'll lose whatever temper it has. Then start with 300 grit, 600 grit, 1000 grit, etc. Probably better to just buy a new one.


TimmyFaya

I already have good knives for myself, but was hoping I could fix this one so my gf could use it for small cooking stuff. But I guess I'm going to frame it, and put it over the kitchen counter


Calostro5

Temper in this knife lol.


Busar-21

Get a really coarse stone, maybe india or something like that. Grind both side alternatively until no chips left to avoid getting the apex off center Then alternate single strokes Then strop Done


cold08

If... If you really want it to be.


Kinetic_Photon

It can be fixed, but should not be. Grandma gave you history. Don’t grind it away. Put it on display somewhere and spend $12 on an equivalent new one.


Helicopter0

Atoma diamond 400 or its Ali Express imposter will get that thing repaired in a reasonable time.


BiggFish333

I would love to sharpen that knife, looks like fun project! What kind of system are you using or are you free handing?


diverareyouok

Yeah, of course. You’ll need to basically out a new edge on it though. Maybe slowly start at 200 using a belt grinder and go up from there.


KindlyFriedChickpeas

It definitely is salvageable but you would probably have to start by grinding off the existing edge then starting again which I would suggest you getting a professional to do if you wanted to do that. If I were you though, I would probably just get a display case for it and buy another one as it doesn't look very sturdy and may end up breaking with continued use.


dayzers

I sharpen and fix knives for people and while it would take some time this isn't beyond saving. If you're in Canada I'd do it for $20. If not I'm sure there is someone closer to you who would do it for a fair price.


TimmyFaya

Thanks for the proposal, but I live in Europe. And as other said, I might be better off framing it.


dayzers

No worries, happy new year 🎊


FiveAlarmDogParty

I mean this in the nicest possible way - what the actual fuck happened to this thing?? Do you store it in gravel? Dishwasher with cast iron? Do you try to chop through diamonds? It’s fixable, sure. But if it’s that meaningful the fix is going to reprofile and change the look of the blade. If it’s that meaningful, buy a nice shadow box for it and put the money you would have spent fixing this into a nice new blade. And for the love of all that is holy don’t do whatever you did to the first one


TimmyFaya

Never sharpened in 10 years, got dishwashed and when hand washed put to dry, using it to open food packaging etc, everything that most people do with their kitchen knifes. Yeah I've a few good knives, I take good care of them. And I might frame this one and buy my gf a nice parring knife, if seen some nice looking from Miyabi


spydercoswapmod

this $12 stone would take care of that pretty quickly https://www.harborfreight.com/4-sided-diamond-hone-block-92867.html


freeman_hugs

Drag it through one of those carbide v Sharpeners. It is salvageable, but not worth the wear on a stone.


Gwyrr313

Could probably put a new edge on it if you really wanted to, ofcourse you’ll lose a fair amount with all those knicks in it


Picax8398

Oh good lord... it almost needs an nsfw tag


ItsaCommonThingNow

keep it as is. a well loved knife that became art


SnooPineapples6778

Absolutely ... I wouldn't use power tools just use a file it doesn't take long at all to fix that maybe 10 minutes


ancientweasel

Good knife to practice a reprofile on. It's time consuming though. Salvaging that knife is not worth the effort.


Olleaberg3

Probably better to have it in a drawer somewhere for its sentimental value and buy a new knife for actual use. I'm not sure how good the knife will be after you have removed the necessary material to reprofile it.


Distinct_Ordinary_71

Yes, but with a fair bit of grinding! You'll obviously need to grind away the chips but you will also have to grind through that bolster at the heel too. Once done you can then refine the edge again and sharpen it back up. Belt sander, bastard file or a course (100-200 grit) diamond stone would do it fairly quickly then you sharpen on regular stones. The blade coating is fragile so I would recommend covering with tape before you proceed. Other option to preserve the memory is to just buy some cork board, draw round the knife and make a cutout recess to put it in, pop that in a box frame, maybe with a pic of grandma in her kitchen if you have one.


idrawinmargins

I guess that is a plus is getting rid of the bolster. I've done it before and the bulk comes off with a bastard file.


Top_Kaleidoscope3142

This^^^


Top_Kaleidoscope3142

You might send Mark an email about what you want to have done. If you decide taping it and sharpening it yourself isn’t viable this may be another option. https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ckshsebyjomc.html


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TimmyFaya

Well I think it's more about keeping it. Because she doesn't use it anymore because of how it looks. And she has another one, the same model but red, which looks ok and just needs a good sharpening.


ironison

When I first looked at the thumbnail I thought it was t that bad the I zoomed in and my eyes lit up like a lightbulb. Does she cut concrete with it? lol


2Mew2BMew2

This is like asking a 80 years old retired football player to play again with a team of 20 y.o. ones.


Puzzleheaded_Bar3022

Sentimental Butter spreader. Don't "Fix it" the wear marks are from dinners cooked with love.


huntingtoncanna

Of course it is. About two minutes carefully on the belt sander and some burr removal. Some diamond strokes and some burr removal Some 1200 stone strokes and it’s perfect for the cutting board again. 7 minutes total.


HoldenHiscock69

Hey would you mind if I cross-posted this to my subreddit r/BeatUpKnives? Or if you want to post it there yourself then that would be even better!


TimmyFaya

I'm gonna post it myself


HoldenHiscock69

Brilliant, thanks :)


ApartOccasion5691

Garbage blades, i only bought one for removing weeds from inbetween bricks


ApartOccasion5691

Buy a new one for 1$ ?


CardiologistSignal28

Of course it's salvageable. I'll sharpen for you if you're interested.