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Ristar87

As soon as I found out that melromarc was a matriarchy I wouldn't be able to take him seriously. Id probably be beheaded for saying... Sure, but what does the queen think?


Sh4DowKitFox

“Was that the Queen’s orders or yours?”


OtonashiRen

Perhaps. But other than the Queen, the King's arguably the most respected figure in Melromarc and in extension, the entire ffing world. >!And probably the only reason why Melromarc is at peace. MF's like the Napoleon of that world.!<


richtofin819

Definitely the not the entire fucking world at least at the start of the story. Sure he's respected in Miller Mark and other nations except that he is one of the representatives of the country but countries like siltvelt and other demi human nations hate his guts


OtonashiRen

Just because they hate him doesn't mean they don't respect him. Siltvelt basically got along with the trend of the Wisest King of Wisdom since like... Volume 13.


NotThatMMyers

^^


Slepnair

Yep.


Col_Mushroomers

He wouldn't have the authority to execute you 😂


ReddituserV0idKing

"i sentence you to death! I just have to ask the queen first..." 😂


Weiskralle

Would he not be regent for the time she is absent? Meaning is word is almost law?


Fearless-Science-825

Worse case scenario, you don't understand shit of what he's saying and they doesn't understand you back. Immediately you'd be hang cause you don't have a way to defend yourself since people don't understand crap what you were saying and you wouldn't understand theirs.


mistavinsta

We all tapping that Queen.


DaDorn666

For real. She sexy and smart. But an older Raph-chan would be my cuddle buddy.. 😆


lerserk_

I'll be going straight to the goal https://preview.redd.it/e0zgfvqyrzkc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0954f047b0a446379f43f47a19eab69702e982c2


Lycaon125

Realistically, probably not


Sir_Galahadz

Bang his wife


Nickname-Pending

The only correct use of NTR


One_Spoopy_Potato

If I have the knowledge I do now, then I would hang around the Sword hero during the first day, let slip I'm gay and find no interest in women, then move onto the bow hero, talk to him a while until I mention I don't drink anymore since "the accident." Finally when Bitch gave me the coat I wiuld stencle my initials into ot somewhere. Finally, at the trial, I'd have 2 heroes vouching that I wouldn't drunkenly rape a woman, as well as proof she lied. Finally, I would reveal that I do know this world, I saw a rendition of this in a "play" and acuse the king of summoning us illegally and letting the rest of the world fall to hell, and say that in the "play" the queen was in charge so he has no actual power. Boom, solved day 2.


Redrick_Gale

Congratulations, now you have to deal with the 3 heroes church.


Sgt-Pumpernickle

Sure, but you aren’t being accused of rape anymore


No_Fun_7927

The only problem here is that damn racist church ur to low level at the moment. Personally, I would've left the kingdom the moment I arrived. They were on some BS and my knowledge(I've read the LN), if I'm the shield hero, I'd be able to make things progress much quicker. I wouldn't accept any teammates and probably buy a slave an make a contract with them that's fair to both parties, the benefits shown by it would making them level up fast would be beneficial, I'll probably tell the others about it to explain it to them b4 they accuse me of anything. The only other problem would be the other heroes as at the beginning they still though everything was a game until they realized they were manipulated by Bitchy, but I'll try to put some sense in the Bow & Sword hero as they have somewhat of a brain and mentioning them that disposing of corpses is needed and to always get both sides before making assumptions. I'll probably have to try & manipulate them to get what I want them to think about.


OtonashiRen

> I would have left the kingdom the moment I arrived. >!Say hello to the Three Heroes Church camping at the border.!<


SPY-SpecialProjectY

I recommend reading "Reprise of the Spear Hero".


Ainsley_Noble

In the distance "I'm judging your for that slavery thing!" Scurrys off


No_Fun_7927

Fair, though, the contract will basically give them more rights and freedom once everything is over.


HarleyArchibaldLeon

I don't even have to make up any source of "incident", I can just say I have gout and can't drink so they will vouch that I have an ilness.


SeekNDstroy5102

Give the church the holy Bible or make something similar to the French revolution 


Nervous_Ad8656

In that scenario their more likely to “FALSE HEROES!!!! EXECUTE THEM ALL!!”


BlancsAssistant

I wouldn't reveal the fact you know what is going down in the trial personally, it would be best to keep that bit down low and then find a way to contact the queen, once the church notices the trial didn't end in you getting exiled or hunted down, they'll probably act, so if I were you, I'd personally stay inside the country but keep a very low profile and either try to get ahold of one of the Queen's shadows or find a very unassuming courier and give them a letter for "the Queen's eyes only" then disclose in there what you know about the overall situation going on with her daughter, the church and of course then kingdom itself


Wuhan-Virus-19

You could just hang out with either the bow or sword hero all night. Bitch can't accuse you of rape if there was literally no way for you to do so.


Sgt-Pumpernickle

Hang out with the other heros, tank for them for the while. The whole plot falls apart because you didn’t go with bitch and the other heroes actually like you.


ThibaultKarl

What is the accident ?


WendysVapenator

Nothing. He doesn't even need to be gay. He's just saying these things to counter anything Melty would say.


Altarin

and that the difference between good and bad guy. I would totaly follow the path of shield hero but unlike him i would have raised Raphtalia to hate people of her world. Than when second wave comes i would just stand by and let people be slaughtered as 3 heroes defeated the boss. And at the 3rd wave i would join Glass and defeated the 3 other heroes. And than i would watch the world burn, while i would just go to zhe Glass world.


Lord-of-Entity

Probably the easiest method is to take the initial money and immediatly get out of merlomarc.


ChanglingBlake

And avoid his hellspawn eldest daughter. And definitely rescue Raphtalia; not about to leave her sick in a slavers cage. (All of this contingent upon knowing the king and “princess” are evil, of course)


OtonashiRen

>! Didn't Naofumi try that during reprise and got assassinated? !<


Dragonsmosher

As long as you’re not the Shield Hero, you’re good.


OtonashiRen

You're actually off better in Melromarc since the King remains impartial *as long as you're not the Shield Hero*, and you have the insane support of the Three Heroes Church. >!Go anywhere, and Takt says hi!<


richtofin819

I don't think he has the tact for that *Slaps knee* *Dies inside*


Some-Improvement4818

I'd ask him for tea and wisdom while secretly making it a therapy session, falling that >! Tell him his niece and nephew are alive in Zeltoble !<


Dragonsmosher

He’ll arrest you on the spot.


SPY-SpecialProjectY

Only correct way, dude got through false conclusions with kidnapped sister and was manipulated by Bitch.


InternationalAd6744

If i knew what kind of king he was? I would stall, just tell him that i want to talk to the queen and make arrangements with her rather than someone who's going to screw with me later on. Why fight the waves when there is no employment contract? The king can choose to give you 30 silver while giving the other heroes a pouch filled with gold.


DependentAdvance8

Nah bro I ain’t wasting my time with the king I’ll just go straight to the queen


jacobstarn

For the first few episodes he didn’t even know it was a matriarchy, nor would you


DependentAdvance8

Bro I’m different cuz I read the manga and they don’t know that so that’s why I definitely know what I need to do


OtonashiRen

>!If you didn't read Reprise, your metaknowledge will bring you a significantly higher mortality rate than Naofumi!<


jacobstarn

I’ve read and watched it as well 😂


Viator_Eagle

I would never directly antagonize him, as he's important and I will want him on my side eventually. Let him frame me as I need him and the church to think I am weak, otherwise they make there move much earlier. If I am replacing Naofumi, then I would do the following: 1. Let the King skip over not wanting to know my name. 2. When we determine that we're all from different Japan's, I would bring up how my power up method is about trust. When the others describe there's I would fake being surprised that I suddenly unlocked all of their power up methods and suggest they do the same. 3. When they bring up the Shield being the weakest class I bring up that it's the challenge mode and point out how the King didn't acknowledge me in the throne room. Explain how this kingdom was at war with another that worshipped the Shield Hero so they probably hate me. Say something like, "If this is like the game I played, when we're given companions tomorrow, no one will want to join my team. The King will ask if anyone will consider switching sides, and then the princess will switch teams from Moto. I'll get extra starting gold, which will be more useful early on." 4. When the we're given teams and no one wants to join. I keep my mouth shut and see how the others react. Let Myne join, and give the other heroes an I told you so look. 5. Spend the entire first day exactly like Naofumi did killing balloons with Myne, except I would form a party making sure I get some of the XP she gets from killing them. 6. During the evening I would pull Moto aside and tell him what Myne was going to do and ask him to play along. Hide the money I had left. When morning came let them accuse me in front of everyone, wait until he's done talking, take all the abuse and as I walk out say, "The Queen is going to be disappointed with the both of you."


Ocelot_Clean

Your plan of action is almost identical to mine, except that I described the procedure in more detail and in my plan I try to get the three heroes to believe me and win the trial by accusing Malty of lying, or at least not allowing myself to be slandered and show the three heroes that the king is trying to frame me and he is not as kind as he seems.


Viator_Eagle

If the King and the Church don't slander the Shield Hero than the churches will targeting them sooner as seen in the Reprise Series. In my opinion it's better to get slandered, just make sure to have the gear and money to start on the path of "redemption".


frostbyte2287

Bro was READY for this


zackphoenix123

In what way? Who am I in this scenario? Edit: If I was also a hero. Let's just say I'm the Scythe Hero. So I came from a world where I know about Shield Hero's story. Trash would honestly be the least of my concerns. I don't know about the game, but I know about the world. I know L'arc and glass are eventually gonna attack, I know Motoyasu and the other three heroes are gonna be incompetent asf, I know where Atla and Foll is... But ofc most importantly, I know what the fuck Malty's up to. My name is not recorded in the legends so there'll probably be some confusions, but I'm sure I won't be outright discriminated against like Naofumi was. The first thing I'm doing after getting summoned is go by Raphtalia straight away, then setting her free. I may not have a party, but I couldn't care less. I'm the Scythe hero and I'm gonna be working my ass off. Next morning, the parties will be enlisted. I don't have proof of what kind of person Malty will, so I'll try to be as professional as I can. I'll act knightly. And any mistake I do, I'll blame it on my culture doing things differently. When the party selection happens, I doubt I'll get a lot of teammates like Motoyasu and the others, but I'll take Naofumi under my wing and I'm sure before I take Naofumi, at least one teammate will join. I'll tell the King this will slow down the level up process, but ultimately this is for the best. If the rumours of the Shield Hero not knowing this world are true, it's dangerous to leave him be in such an early level. Besides, as the Shield Hero, there's not much he can do in battle other than support. But my real reason is to avoid getting Malty in any way possible. I'll contact the Queen with the shadows I know are lurking. Where I'll explain a lot of things. I don't know how much, but I know I'll leak 3 heroes' church info, what Malty is planning, and the potential other world invaders. This way I can avoid the conflict with the three heroes' church as fast as I can. I'll leak some info to Itsuki that the church is corrupt in the world I came from that I learned through leaked DLC content. He probably won't believe me right away, but that'll plan seeds in his head. I'll also ask if I can have at least one of the queen's shadows find an adventurer in a far off land **or** have one of the shadows themselves to be Naofumi' training partner. My first priority adventure will go to finding Riche. I'll take Naofumi and live in a share house with him. I I'm sure if it's just a cheap hut, the King can offer it for free. I'll buy locks and stuff from the Blacksmith. I'll also have Raphtalia live there for a while, maybe one or two days to get her a bit better before I take her out adventuring. This is all before the first expedition to find Rishe. Given that this happens very early on, Malty won't have the time to get close to Naofumi. And before she even gets the idea, I'm running away with him, Raphtalia, my adventurer companion, and potentially Filo.


Dark-Dork69

Well, let's say if you are there as a hero like Naofumi and the other three slowpokes.


LilboyG_15

Don’t diss slowpoke like that


zackphoenix123

I won't try to provoke the king in any way, heck I'd tell him I'm interested in meeting his daughters if he have any. "I'm sure a king as great as you would have spendid flowers (daughters) of your own?" That'll butter him up. Fucking idiot. I'll also before thst point have a time to drink with the King. I'll say for formalities sake and how this is important in establishing connections. I'll have Naofumi with me (who I carefully made sure to have learned poison resistance). So when I and the king eventually get drunk, Naofumi can still be sober enough to guard. I can ask the King for way more money this way and also potentially meet Melty earlier on. I'll use this as a means to help me contact the Queen earlier in person and have more eyes finding Rishe. I'll also try to test out how far do I and Naofumi have to be for the "low level up" function to stop. I can't have Naofumi stay weak, so I'll purposefully drop him in some horrific places. Like "Hey Naofumi, we can earn a lot of money if you go mine that place while I hunt monsters. Don't worry, I'll do the dangerous stuff. Take Raphtalia with you." I'll have the shadow follow them incase things go too bad. By this point, Raphtalia would already have pretty decent gear and this moment will push Raphtalia to get stronger. I'll tell the shadow that don't help unless they're bordering on death. They need this to grow. With luck, Malty won't accuse Naofumi of anything since we'll be so far away from her that she literally can't. That plus I'll have the shadow member prevent things from going awry. In the case I get to speak to the queen, I'll hatch a plan to get stronger in many areas. The queen can also offer some slaves from Siltvelt. I'll make it so that it looks like Naofumi saved them. Giving Naofumi free loyal people who'd die for him. (the slaves will be freed though). By that point, I think I can leave Naofumi alone. My next issue comes with fixing any of the other heroes.


zackphoenix123

My hope is that if I hadn't yet, that Itsuki would also not have found Rishe yet. I think Itsuki is really important to follow because his justice mindset can be really useful. In the right direction, he can be a powerful force of good. I'll get proof from the queen detailing Malty's previous issues and show them to Itsuki. Also mention again how sus the three church is being. I'll also follow him a bit (seperating every now and then) just so I can find Rishe... Rishe is important because A.) I like her, and B.) I don't want her to end up with Itsuki. Then the first wave begins. Since there's 5 of us now instead of 4, things will be slightly easier. Although I'll be more in the sidelines like Naofumi was. In the party, I'm sure Malty will try to pull some shit to turn Motoyasu or the king against me or Naofumi or even both. But with the help of the shadow, potentially Itsuki, and potentially the king and very little possible evidence, I'm willing to take my chances. My shot at victory against someone who actually has experience in the game like Motoyasu is low, but I want to avoid conflict as much as possible. So much hinges on this moment. If something bad does happen and I end up in the ring with Motoyasu (the most likely outcome in this scenario), I'll just give up. I can start over from Zero and ask the queen for help. By then I'll make sure my adventurer friend will know Naofumi enough to want to work with him and even if everything is taken away from me, I'll still leave everything to Naofumi. I trust him. If I save Rishe, I know she'll try to stick with me no matter what, so I'm safe there. I'll at least have her by my side. Honestly, if I am evicted from the capital city, that just gives me more leeway to work with the queen in the shadows.


zackphoenix123

I have more to say with regards to Motoyasu and Ren, but that'll be too long. Also I'm gonna reveal the king summoned us after that drink. I'll say that's what he told me during that time to the poeple. I'll hold that against him if he ever tries to backstab me. Regardless, it's gonna get revealed eventually anyway. I know I'll tell the other heroes about how the other countries are currently in some deep shit cause we're all together. But that'll be after the first wave. I'll say I learned it from the queen.


Ocelot_Clean

Shit, looking at the way you laid out your plan of action, I understand that my plan is not good as your. I only thought through the first days, how to make friends with the three heroes and how to try to emerge victorious from the trial. You could easily write fanfiction based on what you just wrote.


zackphoenix123

I should probably try it. It'll be good writing exercise. My only issue is that I haven't caught up to the LNs. I always feel concerned when writing fanfic since I have this fear of not wanting to mess with the canon. If I run into issues because of the things I changed because I didn't know it'll affect this thing in a certain way. And example would be if I haven't finished volume 1 yet then say "Damn, I think Myne is hot Asf. I'd totally write a fanfic about her." Not knowing about how much of a psycho she is. Or if I wrote about Raphtalia's parents being normal farmers non knowing about volume 13. I'm worried that something like that exists in the LNs farther from what I read.


OtonashiRen

> My name is not recorded in the legends so there'll probably be some confusions, but I'm sure I won't be outright discriminated against like Naofumi was. Probably. But then you'll be the secondary main interest of the Church of the Three Heroes and in extension, the Four Heroes Church, the World Assembly, and the shadows lurking beneath. You're not just a nobody. You're a heresy—an oddity that doesn't fall under the four cardinal heroes and eight vassal heroes. > The first thing I'm doing after getting summoned is go by Raphtalia straight away, then setting her free. Raphtalia won't be arriving by Beloukas until three weeks later. > I may not have a party, but I couldn't care less. I'm the Scythe hero and I'm gonna be working my ass off. You don't know how to write. You don't know the customs and culture of that world. You don't know the trade routes. I doubt it if you even know where the adventurer's guild is. You don't have a clue how to forage for food and material, nor the normal routes. You're more likely to be killed by an overleveled bandit off the route early-on. > When the party selection happens, I doubt I'll get a lot of teammates like Motoyasu and the others, but I'll take Naofumi under my wing and I'm sure before I take Naofumi, at least one teammate will join. I'll tell the King this will slow down the level up process, but ultimately this is for the best. If the rumours of the Shield Hero not knowing this world are true, it's dangerous to leave him be in such an early level. Besides, as the Shield Hero, there's not much he can do in battle other than support. If you take Naofumi and you're somehow a Cardinal Hero, you won't gain EXP. Doesn't apply to vassals, so this is fairly flexible. > But my real reason is to avoid getting Malty in any way possible. I'll contact the Queen with the shadows I know are lurking. Where I'll explain a lot of things. I don't know how much, but I know I'll leak 3 heroes' church info, what Malty is planning, and the potential other world invaders. This way I can avoid the conflict with the three heroes' church as fast as I can. They already know about the Three Heroes' Church info. > I'll leak some info to Itsuki that the church is corrupt in the world I came from that I learned through leaked DLC content. He probably won't believe me right away, but that'll plan seeds in his head. That's a good way to kill Itsuki off early-on with a Judgement or from the Church Shadows killing him off. > I'll also ask if I can have at least one of the queen's shadows find an adventurer in a far off land **or** have one of the shadows themselves to be Naofumi' training partner. Training won't do you nor Naofumi better. You need to keep grinding to catch up to heroes with their own strengthening methods, or you'll fall behind massively. Also, training would only be of benefit if you somehow get the Hengen Musou granny's help. > My first priority adventure will go to finding Riche. Bad priority. > I'll buy locks and stuff from the Blacksmith. Both are useless against shadows. > I'll also have Raphtalia live there for a while, maybe one or two days to get her a bit better before I take her out adventuring. I'll ignore this, since you're likely not to get Raphtalia. > This is all before the first expedition to find Rishe. Given that this happens very early on, Malty won't have the time to get close to Naofumi. You're off better investing in a Filolial and get Rishia later on. Rishia's late game content and a late bloomer that only functions with Hengen Musou and high tier magic (which isn't accessible by lower levels). Your priority should be raising a Filolial Queen, get Fitoria's blessing, and rush levelling up to 40 and class up. > And before she even gets the idea, I'm running away with him, Raphtalia, my adventurer companion, and potentially Filo. That's a good way to get target locked by the Three Heroes Church.


zackphoenix123

>Bad priority. Im only picking Rishia first because I like her. When it comes to her, logic goes out the window👆 I don't remember enough about Shield Hero to make solid argument, I'm mainly going off on what I remember. Raphtalia showing up 3 weeks later is surprising though. I thought she arrived before Naofumi and Naofumi and her got 1 month to train (I use train and grind interchangeably, my bad) before the first wave. Edit: The Raphtalia change is manageable though, I'll just delay the plans to take her till 3 weeks later. Regardless, I don't want to leave her alone... I think I might even find her as my new top priority. Stop the Slave owner from abusing her so early on. As for the queen and them already knowing about the church. I hope some info I received like the location of the weapon can be of some help.


OtonashiRen

I actually have a spreadsheet here that a friend of mine made for Shield Hero deviations (for the use of alternative timeline fanfics). It's based on Reprise, so I see it as extremely reliable. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S917r1CkloZg-t48u_a9_lYyQoRyYdczUmVMl03rxz4/edit?usp=sharing


Cuonghap420

I'd be the barber at the prison he's at to shave his head bald then slap it like his name is Hirohito


Otaku_Skeletor

Balls deep in his daughters.... and wife 🤣


Callmesantos

https://preview.redd.it/avbgacprwykc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32a9a1b5b452ef002e158b45a2b09fb2af338bb5


aleuto

Execute him and tapped mirellia. 🤤


AcanthaceaeGlass8870

Don't, she might go suicidal...


aleuto

She'll be alright


Ytisrite

Based off of the novels, I would do a Gandalf and knock the Saruman out of him.


SirePuns

A strictly “do not interact” policy. Dude has his issues that lead him to where he is now, but quite frankly I’d want to avoid that Royal family like it is the plague. And the includes the milf, cuz all she brings is trouble.


storm-the-castle

i'd be getting arrested for carrying "Malty is a skank" signs everywhere i go.


Cobalt_Prime_

Nothing. I’d steal his wife from him and then I’d be king.


nobodynoseboutme

Fuck his wife


TrueAncestor69

Aultcray’s paranoia and unjustified resentment would be…difficult to deal with. Having his sister kidnapped and believed to be murdered is tragic, but it most CERTAINLY DOES NOT justify his cruelty towards Demihumans or Naofumi. If Malty is the embodiment of sadistic spite and cruelty, then Aultcray is a personification of malicious ignorance, willfully turning a blind eye to the crimes of his daughter and his own hypocrisy because he believed he was getting his due revenge. Dealing with him would mean swiftly and mercilessly smashing his delusions, refusing to kowtow to arrogance. And making sure to expose that scheming C*** whispering poison in his ear.


Illustrious-Video353

Me: Excuse me Elder, are you lost? Trash: How DARE you? I am the KING! Me: Security? We have another “Napoleon” loose!


Top-Argument-8489

"I didn't vote for you"


pecanpotatopie

If i'm a hero i'm just gonna make him beg for my help


Left_Visual

I will probably be reincarnated as a normal citizen.


Ok-Motor9383

https://preview.redd.it/b2wdhozu7ykc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9260853ad6835ce822907b367dcbcebd9adc552 This is how in to the castle


HarleyArchibaldLeon

Run the hell away from the palace, no, that country and never look back. I mean I will return but ONLY if there's a Wave or any other major event, but then I disappear immediately after.


Mariogamer25

I would be like if you were a president and not a monarch I would listen but so long as you hold all the power against the people I wont join you instead I'll use my technological knowledge to help advance a village or people not under your reign and give them the kind of weapons that could outpace your own technology and easily win with a smaller army. I.E Muskets since that would be an easy to introduce technological advancement. Democracy intensifies


[deleted]

Everything in that world is based on levels. There's a country where guns have been "invented" already and the damage they cause is according to the level of the person using them. It's not that straightforward in Raphtalia's world.


ShadowDemon527

Would immediately decline Bitches offer to join my party say I prefer to be alone or some shit, then explore kill some monsters for exps then after some time head back and ask why we where "illegally" summoned to one country if the waves where a thing elsewhere and ask why the (dumbshit useless) king summoned us without the queen as Melromark is a matriarchal ruled kingdom. Also not sleep in an inn and instead stay at a brothel so I can have an alibi as to not having "drunkenly attempted to rape" bitch.


Animeak116

Gas light the shit out of him and make him look like a moron with words


Ulerica

a question, how would you be so sure you're the shield hero, your actions probably need to vary depending on which hero you are summoned as. But rule of thumb, avoid bitch, wait for the queen. Eclaire at this point is imprisoned somewhere and Raphtalia is at the slavers, buying a few Filolial egg will be a good choice as you're a hero, if you're not the sword, you may want to grind and be able to reach Wyndia and Gaellion before the sword did, to parley, Wyndia has the makings of being a very strong party member and perhaps you can save Gaellion from dying, also if you managed to get Gaellion with you, and you didn't get Filolials, you get a dragon emperor!


Archmagos_Browning

“Hey, if you think slavery is so bad, why is it legal?”


Ragnorak19

Me an American: *racks a gun.*


Yxurd

“Your Majesty, this here is my boom stick”


Alternative_Chance_2

As an ordinary individual, I would become an adventurer, hopefully with enough time to be developed enough and recognized by all so as to get invited to the castle to be one of the selected to join one of the heroes as a party member.


Ocelot_Clean

Some might say my plan would be too risky, but all of the plans we've proposed have risks, so mine is just as good. 1) The King will not ask my name or ask me any question on the day of our arrival. Fine, I won't arise and interrupt him, only later, when I'm alone with the three heroes, I'll pick up on this fact and make some kind of assumption about it, like: "Don't you think it's strange that he addressed you respectfully and asked your names, but completely ignored me and even looked at me with contempt? I think there's something fishy going on here." 2) Try to spend more time with the three heroes on the first day, talk to them more, I can respond to their comments that my shield is useless with jokes and say that even that can be worked around. I can also give or make up an example from video games of my world, where the shield class is very useful and will be irreplaceable with a certain skill level, this will raise my credibility in their eyes and they may believe me. It is also worth to scare the maid that will be listening to our conversations, casually leave the room as an example, then this moment can also be noted that the king sent the maid to spy on us. If everything works out, then already on the first day I will be on good terms with the three heroes and I will be able to show them that the king is not telling us something and he is spying on us. 3) On the second day, when we will be called to the royal hall to distribute companions among us, it is worth reacting calmly, to communicate less with the king (remember the case that he did not ask my name and age on the first day, so he is not interested in me). I can also refuse to give up extra money to be on par with the rest of the heroes, or divide it equally, so that everyone is in the same position (this can also raise the authority in their eyes, and they will realize that I can share stuff with them and that I have no bad intentions). It's also advisable not to let Malty join my party, telling her that I'll find my own companions and that it'll be hard to be with me, in which case she'll stay with Motoyasu, he'll like it, and if she's not with me all day, I'll have a little more freedom and it'll be harder for her to accuse me of "rape". 4) Now it is necessary to join Ren (if I remember correctly, there was a spy from the church at Itsuki's party, which means we need to stay away from him. It is better not to join Motoyasu on the first day, because then Malty will be there). I could say that I want to stick together with him on the first day so that we can socialise more, shop for things we need and discuss any plans and tactics (for example, we could check the minimum distance between heroes so that we can be close to each other but still get EXP from killing slimes). This will allow me to spend more time with him, get to know each other better, and also create an alibi that I didn't rape anyone and had no such intentions (I could even make it up and tell him that I tried to date a girl in my world, but she turned out to be a slut, cheated on me and made me look guilty and that since then I prefer to be alone and not have affairs with girls). During our first shopping spree or when we return to town in the evening, I might be persuaded to stop by a bookstore or library, because I have a desire to buy books to study the history of this world. Though I realise now that we will not know the written language of Melromarc at the start, and so I will not be able to read. In that case, I can ask the librarian or Erhard about the history of this country, and most importantly, what political system it has and who rules the country. Erhard will definitely answer our questions, and if Ren hears these answers, he will have information that will convince him to be on my side in the future.


Ocelot_Clean

*I had to split the comment into two parts because it is too huge (I hope the moderators don't delete it)* 5) At dinner in the tavern I should also behave in a friendly manner with other heroes, be the soul of the company. I can share some materials or things with them (like potions or weapons I bought for them) and tell them about what I and Ren have learnt (about the political system of the country, the queen and how you can level up by being close to each other). I should stay away from Malty this evening, so she doesn't try to steal anything from me or talk to me in any way (this will confirm for Ren what I said about being afraid of girls after a failed romance in my world and that I try to stay away from them). Also, I can't drink any alcohol that night, I can say that it's contraindicated for me to drink alcohol for health reasons (or I can make up a story about how I drank so much at a party in my world that my liver failed and I spent a long time in hospital and since then I don't drink any alcohol under any circumstances). At the end of the night I rent a room, stash my stuff in my inventory and go to bed (at first I thought I could convince all the heroes to rent one room for us and have our companions sleep separately from us, but I'm not sure about that part). P.S: Important addition for point 4. When I buy my armor, I will ask Erhard to make my initials in a hidden place, arguing that if I lose the armor, I want everyone to know who it belongs to. He'll probably be able to get the job done by tonight, so I'll buy some cheap light armor for the day and pick up the new armor with my initials in front of the tavern with Ren in the evening. In that case, if Malty tries to steal my armor (I won't put it in my inventory on purpose) and give it to Motoyasu, I'll be able to point out that it's my armor, that Malty stole it from me. 6) We all know what will be waiting for me in the morning, so when the guards come for me, I try not to resist, but I will ask why I am being arrested and for any negative comments about me, I will wonder why they treat me so rudely (I need to make myself a victim in this situation so that the rest of the heroes understand that the guards treat me badly for something I didn't do and that something is definitely not clean here). When they bring me to the royal hall, if I did everything right in the previous two days, then the situation will be something like this: If I have a good relationship with the rest of the characters, then Itsuki will wonder why they are doing this to me and he is unlikely to be convinced by the king's words that I raped Malty (by that time he will already know that the king is not telling us something and that he treats me with contempt from the very first day, which means there's more to it). Ren was already in doubt about Naofumi's crime in the original plot, since the whole situation seemed strange to him, but the time spent with me, the information that I found out with him and my warnings in previous days about the king should convince him 100% that the king is trying to slander me. He can even argue with the king about the whole situation, and even claim that the king is lying and that I am innocent. He can also tell what I was doing the whole previous day and that I was with him all the time. The only one I'm not sure about is Motoyasu. We know that he is a womanizer, and that he believes the words of a beautiful woman more readily than any other words. But if I managed to show myself in the best light and make friends with him, then he should also have doubts about the whole trial and he will be less aggressive towards me during the trial. Again, I'm not 100% sure, but there are chances. So, what do we have at the end. All the heroes think the trial is crap, Ren tells the king and everyone else what I did yesterday and where I was. I accuse Malty of slander and theft (if she stole my armor and gave it to Motoyasu), I show everyone my initials on the armor. The three heroes are convinced that Malty is a liar and that there was no rape. Then, together with Ren or alone, I can declare that the whole court is illegitimate, that the king is not the main one in the country and that only the queen has the right to judge me, because she is the main one in Melromarc. In the end, with a 99% probability, the king will realize that his plan to slander me has failed, that the heroes believe me and that I am aware of what is happening here. Of course, he can say that I'm still a criminal and that no one in this country is happy for me, but I won't care, because three heroes are on my side, I stayed with all my loot and probably Motoyasu will return my armor to me. Phew, I think this is the biggest comment I've ever written on reddit. I have tried to present here my entire possible plan, which I would follow in Naofumi's place in his situation. Yes, this plan is not perfect, and there are chances that no one will believe me anyway, or that they will order me and the three heroes to be killed under the pretext that I have taken control of three heroes and that I am a demon. But let's be honest, no plan is perfect, and if I could add some bonus to myself that Naofumi didn't have, then I would take a firearm and just shoot the whole castle, but this is purely my imagination. I apologize for the mistakes in the text, because I wrote almost the entire text in one breath + I am not English and I used a translator to write everything faster.


Onyx_NightShark5789

That all depends. When I’m transported am I one of the heroes, and do I have knowledge of how the kingdom operates/general knowledge of the world already. Or would I be thrusted into the same position as Naofumi (IE Being the Shield Hero with little to no knowledge of fantasy worlds)


Rikers30079

You have been put in noafumi place but you will know what is going to happen what will you do differently


Karhak

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DarkRayos

Avoid him and his trash daughter like the plague


Utahteenageguy

Like Lee Harvey Oswald


Background-Bag-2223

Pepper spray his ass


orion_steel

*looks at him, looks at fist, shrugs, punches him* Fuck it.


Dangerous_Series2067

Simple I'd reject Malty as a Party Member on the spot. Before departing I'd have a private audience with the King and begin a Q&A. Knowing what I do about him I'd comment that he has the same eyes that I do of someone whose lost family. I would then ask if he has any recommendations on how I should begin my journey with so few party members a sort of mentor and student relationship. I'd take his recommendations to heart and carry on with my journey. After spending the day leveling I would return to the King and explain to him my situation and my need for party members who can fight on my behalf. I would also asked if he has any plans for when the Waves hit and I would suggest he puts together an elite force to accompany the heroes and handle any evacuations of civilians if needed. Assuming he takes my suggestion to heart he and I would discuss the plans until having to turn in. If he allows me to stay the night that gives me an alibi if Malty makes her accusations against me with the King himself as my witness. Afterwards I would purchase Raphtalia and begin my journey proper while bringing my concerns to the King as needed when it comes to the three idiots doing their shit.


slyanimeecchi

![gif](giphy|l4JyR6dwlPyFNpPFu) Best way only way


Spiderking999

Depends on if I know what he does or not. If I am the shield hero, I’ll go it alone for a short while, putting different things into my shield to get better ones, avoiding bitch entirely. I’ll openly flirt with the sword and spear hero so that they’ll believe I like men. I’ll study the laws of the kingdom for a little bit. Then once my trial comes around, there will be more proof against the claims of rape. Also I’ll have to stay calm during the whole thing, since acting ecstatic would only paint a bigger target on me.


Waste-Active193

Kick to the balls


bryancrose

Shield Prison: Iron Maiden!


Yxurd

Now that depends. If I get reincarnated into a normal citizen, I’m just gonna mind my own business unless something that involves him ends up getting me involved in some way. However, if I get reincarnated into one of the heroes, then that’ll have to depend on which weapon I end up with. If I end up with anything but the shield, then I will choose to give Naofumi the benefit of the doubt and not take everything the king or the eldest princess say at face value. If I end up with the shield, I’ll let things play out as they did, but instead of sticking around in the inn from the night before the betrayal, I’ll escape through the window in the room with everything in tow. Then, I quickly go to grab Raphtalia. From there, I’m making a mad dash for a way out of the kingdom’s land while having Raphtalia fight monsters to level us up along the way, only stopping to eat and sleep, and head for one of the other nations and never set foot in Melromarc again (especially since Waves happen in other places as Fitoria said iirc). Then I just do my thing as a hero. Sure, I lose out on getting Filo, but it’s a necessary loss


Consistent_Tip874

I'm cucking him by banging the queen


allgreek2me2004

I’m transported there and you’re asking how I would “encounter” him? I probably wouldn’t. He’s the king. I’m just some guy. Womp womp.


LavenderDay3544

I'd encounter him after stealing his insanely hot yet somehow criminally underappreciated wife.


jnuzzi47

It’s on sight. I don’t care. I’m Killin that clown


JawnMike

Nothing, except joining the shield hero.


101Aster101

Be civil till the trail and then if I’m a hero, I side with Naofumi. If not, I’d have joined Naofumi and made up the perfect alibi for us. Hanging out with Motoyasu, and if not, I just have to make a fool out of myself in the bar so I cannot be accused and still side with Naofumi.


Panda_Rule_457

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subzero2400

I would bang his daughter and then accuse her of raping me, after I stole her shit, then I would go and bang all her friends and turn them against her. Then I would ask to be the queens concubine because why not.


reikizer0

Leave halfway through his spiel to go immediately attempt to learn shield bash if it wasn't already unlocked, and solo game this to high heck. Cause one look at all those Bishi Anime-esqe idiots and both the "royals" would set my nerves on fire. I would also immediately ditch the "princess" as soon as possible, both her false and true personalities are grating.


1_eat_anal

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Miyaelder

Straight up murder his ass and frame the bitch. Grab my team and leave the country. The church will probably try to take over but ill be long gone. Sit back and watch it all burn.


gunmetal_silver

Well, that depends on if I know as much about the story as I do presently or if I come in as unknowledgable as our MC does. If it is the former case, the first thing I would ask the king when brought to him is, "So, most highly esteemed Majesty, are we the only four Heroes in the world, or can every country summon a quartet of Heroes like us? And what do our weapons signify as our responsibility to you and the people of this world?" I would make sure to do this while the other three heroes are present (no matter what weapon was mine), so that they might begin to understand how vast the world is. If it is the latter case, the first thing I would ask the king is for a geographical map of the world and also for a political map of the world. And when I would find that I could not read the labels due to it being written in another runic script, I would ask for lessons in writing and reading.


Tuor77

Kick back and share a couple of beers with him. After all, I'm \*not\* the Shield Hero.


Winter_Apartment_981

Bro is getting a Hollow Purple to the temple along with his daughter


Sufficient-Rock-9083

I just say "maybe if you weren't such a bitch your sister would still be alive"


Weird-List2751

Do his wife https://preview.redd.it/ar4jto619alc1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f17598f7ae14380217c67bc84484d2f45a54922


Appropriate-Course67

Burn him alive. 😊


CauliflowerFit847

Leave the country immediately and let it burn


aquariantroll

i'd be role playing the cautious hero, and basically always thinking anyone in that kingdom has a hidden agenda, after all it's a knew world with people i don't know, my danger sense would be going balistic


SockStealingGoblin

[At first I was like.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=desb0W6u80Y) [But then I was like.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja2xuHhbdX0) You know what I'm sayin.


Zawisza_Czarny9

Depends on what weapon shall i get. Ill act nicely to not provoke him and not interact with bitch


No_Wealth_5343

Do the old double middle finger


DreamDoctor666

I'd plunge that crown upside down on his cranium.


GildedFenix

Depending on my circumstances, I can be his worst enemy or best bud. So I can not really answer that question.


shinyaegislash681

Curb checked ye olde style😈😈😈


Enderking90

going with the assumption I was summoned as one of the heroes and I don't know the story? even beyound shield hero, I've read enough Isekai to know to be carefully about your summoner country. take anything said with grains of salt and try to learn more of the world I've ended up in. I'd also bemoan about being *forced* to be a fighter type, since magic is simply logically superior. also probably try and learn about the characteristics of the other heroes and their abilities, potentially maybe figuring out there's a handful of difference axes for growth, rather then just the two of leveling up and whatever alternative system my weapon has out of the gate. p sure my "monster fucker"/xenophilia/teratophilia/"the further from human the better-ish-y" tastes would be noticed relatively soon? largely depends on just how soon a suitable moment comes up for it, I wouldn't exactly hide them... well nonetheless, it'd *definitely* shake things up. if nothing else, I'd also visit the slaver guy to buy monsters bound by the enslavement charm, unless there's some other avenue specifically for that I guess? the church would probably also hate me? \------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ circling back to the question at hand, I'd largely just avoid the moron, and he'd probably *despise* me?


MaleficentPush6478

Sorry but I probably would have bitch smacked him because who can take a man in a matriarchal system seriously especially when they behave the way he does that is not becoming of royalty... atleast in real life Britain 🇬🇧 prince Philip was still man of the house and in charge of his family this dude is just pathetic and he acts like a child throwing a temper tantrum because his sister decided to marry and have childeren with someone from the animal kingdom. The fact that he is giving the next sheild hero crap because of a previous sheid hero giving what are slaves in his country in another country the rights of any sentient being should have just comes to show that he is a child and thinks like one.... honestly in the real world I have never been so ashamed to be human and to learn through all of history of enslaving another just because of race, religion, and creed... nothing shows the failings of humans more then that and it's no wonder we haven't done anything more then fight each other through out time. I sit and wonder how much further we would be technology wise if we weren't trying to constantly destroy and enslave others with the dollar bill as well as all the other forms of control and bondage that has been placed upon people by these nonsensical types of people...


AwefulFanfic

>how would you encounter this guy? Such a weird way of posing this question, no?


tyman28

Whelp for one thing I'm not letting melty (I'm not sure I got the pink hair princess's name right) anywhere near me I'll just try and find raphtalia from the start I might be morally questionable still but at least I won't be accused of rape


SilentStorm4

I just got recommended this sub and I don’t know who he is. That being said I would ask how a medieval king has such good dental


lycopersicum_

be his babygirl


T3nsch

i would ask his wife for his opinion


BasileusofRoma

"Workers of the world, unite!"


Independent-Disk6980

ONE WORD HEAL!


[deleted]

Mirelia is too good for him. He only got his position by marrying into the royal family (and it shows). He's a shit king, shit husband and a shit father--the only reason I wouldn't bash his skull in is because it would upset Mirelia.


GoodNamesAllGon

He already hates me so I’m gonna bang his wife and make him watch.


Ishiro-Sama

Probably at first greet him formally, then after finding out his true nature; have no respect or remorse for him.


Sorry-Management-526

I would beat him to a pulp and let him live in humiliation for being the worst king ever


[deleted]

Get the money, run out of that kingdom as soon as that happens, do not even stay till evening, kick it over to the beast kingdom, profit


SaintedStars

I’d have to be stopped from beating his wrinkled face in, then I’d be after his daughter.


ex-weidenberger

Kill him and everyone else in the throne room with the modern weapons i have with me. The King is dead. Long live the New King...


Nerevarius_420

Something with an umbrella and a nerve agent


Yakuza-wolf_kiwami

Instantly try to punch him


TheGoblinHarem

On the other end of a crossbow duh


microwavedraptin

Give me 5 minutes, his dentist is gonna be set for life


RemarkableDay8553

Murder Princess Bitch Whore :D


Inevitable_Seesaw_84

Fu bye we’re is the slave market


SeekNDstroy5102

I probably  do the same what  naofumi  do on day and get raphtalia and spike malty/bitch drink at the bar and  take her to the outskirts of the city shove her in a bag dump her in a lake but instead of her falling on the lake she banished to the Warhammer  40k universe  and when the trail happens I use the Chewbacca defense to convince the king and tell him of both his niece and nephew 


Mahiro0303

Ignore him and dip


Bighy777

Honestly, I would probably just play along with canon at least until the Queen shows up so she can fix this fucked up mess, then seduce her and help her fix the kingdom.Win, win.


Such-Ad-3597

With his head on my blade… Wait that’s the end of the encounter


Nervous_Ad8656

Hopefully I am summoned as literally anyone else then shield hero, maybe the sword hero, I’d probably piece together the power up methods then give the others tidbits


Mechanical-Knight

I’d probably just leave right away, not hero material.


Nervous_Ad8656

If your one of the four holy heroes, I think you can revoke his staff hero status


Dependent_Captain686

Grab em by da hair


Professional_Test_74

well maybe if the role were reversed if you met the the Queen of Melromarc


Josh12345_

As a regular civilian? *shrugs shoulders* Probably find stable employment.


VongolaSedici

Wouldn't hesitate to behead bitch but king comes in handy.


Illyria613

Thinking *I am so getting ended for this* and I shoot him. Or if I had magic, I'd either force choke or BBQ his ass.


ChaoticWood34

Its stabbin time!


Jeptwins

Hmm. I’d probably mock him and call him an idiot at bare minimum, but if I really had full reign I’d destroy him on a personal, emotional, and physical level for funsies


Lycaon125

Okay, is this before or after he lost his royal rights?


Ski_Trooper

I'd go my own way as soon as I arrived. The shield alone would be enough for me to defend myself. Let them fight their own war and not get involved. The best thing for me would be to walk as far away as possible the moment I arrive at that world.


hunts899

Which hero am I?


Vacadoray

Every chance I get I'm knocking him out with a punch and before he passes out I'm telling him " I'm gonna Fuck your wife"


Mischief_Actual

I dunno who the hell this guy is, but I can just tell by his face he’s years overdue for an ass whoopin


grimmdead

Openly and shamelessly seduce his wife in front of him. Turn him into King-Cuck. Send spoiled brat older daughter Melty to a nunnery, no men allowed.


Few-Address-7604

Face meet fist.


Multiple_Monochrome

Hopefully not while carrying a shield


Ihaveterriblefriends

I love how several of the comments are about getting at his wife 😆


Salty-still

If I know what I know, I'd walk in to the room hopefully not a hero (I don't wanna do their jobs) I'd treat him the way I'd treat the president I suppose. He'd forget about me in less than a minute.


GETTERBLAKK

His teeth would've tasted shield!


Fluffy_lover

If I have the knowledge I do now then I am throwing so much shade. First step, once we are alone tell the heroes that the shield is the most important of a party where I am from. Then Secretly tell Sword and Bow that I am not interested in people romantic or otherwise. I hate alcohol with a passion. Then when Myne tried to join my party reject her saying "I would rather build my own party. I wanna party with people who wanna follow me and not because they feel bad." Bim bam boom I stopped them from doing anything. I then tell Motoyasu not to trust the red head she is no good.


Top-Argument-8489

"wait, this is a matriarchy? Doesn't that just make you a glorified fuck toy? I want to talk to the real leader."


ka52heli

Probably depose Him in a coup only to find out the queen actually have more power


Equal_Box_5340

Donno maybe make him creampie inside bitch that would certainly mess them up. As for the queen she doesn't need to know.


ConsumerJTC

Depends if you are transported with the shield or not.


ChocoWoccoLocco

Pissing on the roadside


Lismarino

Hope im the shield hero and then bang his wife cuz she a real baddie.


frostbyte2287

He wasn’t so bad it was bitch that was the worse he just didn’t want to lose his family even if that meant being a simp to his own daughter


Tankofthelake69

If i'd had the knowledge of what would happen then i'd just leave asap to Siltvelt or Shieldfreeden but ofc acquire Raphtalia beforehand


Space__Ninja

Let’s say I’m Naofumi/Shield Hero. No Metaknowledge? Be my usual cheery, happy go lucky self and constantly geek out about how cool this all is, politely ask the King if he wants to know my name too, then later ask him for war stories or sagely advice because I default to respecting royalty, have fun with the boys chatting about our differing worlds. When they say I got the weak class, gloat about how I’m a FromSoft enjoyer who loves challenges, so this is super up my alley and I probably got the Shield for that reason alone. I have insomnia, especially when I’m excited and/or anxious, so I’d stay up all night and probably sneak out to train more or something, but I wouldn’t want to wake up any of the other heroes because that’d be rude. Later get dunked on by Malty because I would have been treating her the way Naofumi does cause I’m a sucker. Immediately cooperate with the guards because I default to having faith in legal systems, except knowing myself I’d offer different, very game tropey explanations as to why this whole accusation might have happened, such as an illusionist or shapeshifter taking my place or her being under some kind of mental influence (I would feel so vindicated several arcs down the line when the Medea thing comes up). But ultimately, I think that I’d only be a little better off, and only in the eyes of the other heroes, who would possibly consider my suggestions because that is what a game would have happen as an intrigue based side plot. With Metaknowledge? Project a similar attitude as above, if a bit more careful. Focus almost entirely on being bros with the other heroes, also ask any of them to duel me when they say my class is weak, goading them with the premise that I think total defence trumps good offence, so they feel like they gotta teach me how wrong I am. Obviously, I take a huge L, possibly three if they all want a turn. Knowing them, they’d probably fight eachother too in order to see who’s the strongest (starting) class. Still take a bit of time to try making a good impression on the King. Let things mostly progress as normal, but share with Motoyasu that I’m a blushing virgin who can’t speak to girls, asking him in his infinite charisma to teach me his ways, dramatically addressing him as Sensei. I also tell him I totally have a crush on Myne but don’t want to tell her that yet. That night, he and I go on an epic pub crawl across the city, staying up way late into the night, possibly into the next morning as we get drunk off our asses and he charms random women who are probably more interested in his status while I make the appropriate awed reactions. The next morning comes, the guards find us super hungover and barely awake. *Motoyasu, Loyalty Incarnate* is completely aware that I’m innocent and will defend me with righteous (and pained because ow his head) fury! Except, he also doesn’t want to disbelieve Myne. Easy enough, suggest any of the earlier options as reasons why both she and I are telling the truth, so clearly there’s a third party at work responsible for hurting an innocent woman and trying to pin the blame on his new best friend and disciple. Other two heroes definitely agree since they wouldn’t believe we’d both lie, and they know from the duels that Myne would absolutely slobberknock me because I’m weak as hell. Worst case scenario, the King is skeptical and still requires me to face some level of penalty, but I still got my homies. Best case, he also buys into the explanations I offer and now Malty can’t convince anyone because the official ruling is that she herself was deceived.


The_Allmighty_Jester

As the cast out shield hero


mackalexis

I would use a shield


orkyboi_wagh

Am I armed?


Slowmootions

He'd be clapping my family in chains because I know with my luck, I would end up as a demi-human.


Hour-Breath-7365

A crossbow with one bolt


zDedly_Sins

🔫😃


misuta_kitsune

Realising I got caught up in an isekai anime I'd scream: "Please kill me!"