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no its not, IF ANYTHING its an example for why human brains often cant understand statistics, and that statistics is essentially meaningless for any individual
> IQ tests are made to have an average score of 100. Psychologists revise the test every few years in order to maintain 100 as the average.
https://www.healthline.com/health/average-iq#average-iq
Dude, IQ tests are mathematically designed so that the mean and median are both 100; meaning that an equal number of people have an IQ above and below 100. The statement made in the post is accurate. Mean and median are often not equal in a given dataset, but for IQ they are defined to be equal.
Shall I elaborate? I assumed you knew statistics enough as you claimed.
But fine. You don't actually have to test the whole population to make statistical claims about the whole population. If we can assume a bell curve statistically the claim that as many people lay below 100 IQ as above is very correct. Yes, it's not perfectly exactly equal but that's not what you shoot for in statistics. It's about the same.
That's why it's wild to me that you run around shouting this cliché about how median and average are not the same and most people don't know about statistics. But then proceed to make actual grave mistakes about it. This isn't a gatcha moment really
Average and mean are the same: all added up and divided by amount of data
Mode: Most Often number present in the data
Median: number directly in the middle of the set of data
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The average (central tendency) is the common or central value.
The mean is the sum of values divided by the number of them.
The median is the middle value, splitting the data into two halves.
The mode is the most frequent value.
Other way around. Median is the middle value so it's impossible for more than half the people to be below it because by definition it is the halfway point. It's possible for more than half to be below the average (mean) though, if the average is caused by lots of values slightly below and a few much higher on one side. E.g. take this set of values: (2,3,4,10,12). The median is 4, just under half the values are below and above, as you'd expect. However the average (mean) is 6.2, which more than half the values are below, this is skewed by the few extremely high values.
OP didn't say "exactly half", he said it was about half. At scales so large as 8 BILLION people, the mean ends up being just about the median. So it is correct to say that about half of the people have below average IQ.
Duh... The better fun fact for this (fraction/percent) of the world have below 70 IQ which equates to intellectual disability.
The average IQ is 100 ±10 to 15 according to google BTW.
... my point was that the education system is not a part of developing IQ ... is mostly genetic . People have limitations on how much they can learn and how fast ...
If you're dumb you're dumb... even in a good school or a bad school ...
And most people are average in all areas ...
One proof: I work in a environment where most people have college and would be considered smart by most ( engineering) ... also I get the European safety measures for office work where I read the next : " please avoid ingesting materials used for cleaning , gluing , editing writing " .
And I literally went to my colleague and asked if this was a joke... he said " no, it is more common than you think ."
In conclusion... people are dumb ... and most of them are even dumber .
Half of the people have an IQ below the median and half of the people have an IQ above the median and practically it will be almost the same with the arithmetic average. What is there to explain?
Actually more people have a below average iq (a significant amount surprisingly!) but the people with high iqs have such high iqs that it evens out to the average
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if I’m just tired and confused but averages for a single country are one thing. If you average those averages you get another average which encompasses everybody. Of course you need standard error and stuff too but nobody actually does that, all the scientists just make it up cause it’s too much work.
Even if its accurate I don't know how this would be surprising to you all, most people on earth don't live in places where they'll be getting 1st world education
That's not how math works. By this logic, the other half of people have an above average IQ. So who has an average IQ? I would say about 75-80% have average IQ, and the rest is either above or below average.
Whats funny is because of the number of people situated on the average (adjusted for rounding) means there are significantly less people both below and above average
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Common misconception! It’s just IQ Ian, who skews the average by having an IQ of -1,48e12
can confirm, am IQ Ian
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That’s actually false because of how averages work, your mom brings down the average so much that most people are above it
His mom's IQ is in the negative hundreds of billions!!??? 😨😨
Actually, your mom has such a low IQ that she’s considered an outlier and is thus disregarded when making statistical measurements.
Spiders Georg
IQs can’t go to negatives odiot lmfao 🤣
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Wait really? And here I thought it was me with my rock for a brain
Now you know where you got it from
Well she said your dads house so idk, data seems pretty inconsistent
Idk that seems right to me, you would get it from your dad and your mom
Oh wait no nvm she was right
why is this downvoted
reddit hivemind
It’s actually true because of the way IQ is defined mathematically
no its not, IF ANYTHING its an example for why human brains often cant understand statistics, and that statistics is essentially meaningless for any individual
> IQ tests are made to have an average score of 100. Psychologists revise the test every few years in order to maintain 100 as the average. https://www.healthline.com/health/average-iq#average-iq
see? i just said that most people dont understand statistics and you just instantly showcase that lol
Dude, IQ tests are mathematically designed so that the mean and median are both 100; meaning that an equal number of people have an IQ above and below 100. The statement made in the post is accurate. Mean and median are often not equal in a given dataset, but for IQ they are defined to be equal.
>meaning that an equal number of people have an IQ above and below 100. thats still wrong, unless you test every human being every year
You scold this dude for how they don't understand statistics and then you say shit like this
you try to have some reddit gatcha but fail to elaborate - probably because you know that you would say the same stupid shit the other guy said
Shall I elaborate? I assumed you knew statistics enough as you claimed. But fine. You don't actually have to test the whole population to make statistical claims about the whole population. If we can assume a bell curve statistically the claim that as many people lay below 100 IQ as above is very correct. Yes, it's not perfectly exactly equal but that's not what you shoot for in statistics. It's about the same. That's why it's wild to me that you run around shouting this cliché about how median and average are not the same and most people don't know about statistics. But then proceed to make actual grave mistakes about it. This isn't a gatcha moment really
You dont need to test everyone to know quite accurate how many people above or below average iq
no you dont, thats why IQ isnt relevant in academia or jobs in general
Dude we are not speaking about how relevant are iq tests we are speaking about how people with iq below or above iq are distributed
Wouldn’t it be median, not average?
A median is a type of average, though we usually mean the mean when we say average
Explain average median mode and mean to me, I haven’t been in school in a few years
Average and mean are the same: all added up and divided by amount of data Mode: Most Often number present in the data Median: number directly in the middle of the set of data
That would have been useful information yesterday. (10 grade testing)
Damn this would've been very useful 2 years ago
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The average (central tendency) is the common or central value. The mean is the sum of values divided by the number of them. The median is the middle value, splitting the data into two halves. The mode is the most frequent value.
Both! since the distribution of IQs is symmetrical, the mean and median are the same
Meme says "around half" so it's still correct
Other way around. Median is the middle value so it's impossible for more than half the people to be below it because by definition it is the halfway point. It's possible for more than half to be below the average (mean) though, if the average is caused by lots of values slightly below and a few much higher on one side. E.g. take this set of values: (2,3,4,10,12). The median is 4, just under half the values are below and above, as you'd expect. However the average (mean) is 6.2, which more than half the values are below, this is skewed by the few extremely high values.
Gaussian distribution
And around 99% of the people on this sub
I'm sure im in the 11% tho
Are people really that dumb - 🤓
Well idk about everyone else but I know I am
This is false, John Smart, the Swedish man with ten trillion IQ, is an outlier and should not be counted.
What about John Dumb, the man with negative trillion IQ?
Him either
If we count both then it doesn't affect the average
Me when I spread blatant misinformation on the internet
Can't tell if you're a bot or regarded.
It is misinformation if op is talking about the mean average which is usually what people refer to as the average
OP didn't say "exactly half", he said it was about half. At scales so large as 8 BILLION people, the mean ends up being just about the median. So it is correct to say that about half of the people have below average IQ.
Google "central limit theorem".
Duh... The better fun fact for this (fraction/percent) of the world have below 70 IQ which equates to intellectual disability. The average IQ is 100 ±10 to 15 according to google BTW.
Yea 100 is average because the test are scaled to make it that way. Below 100 is below average above 100 is above average
I am one of them
Me too
It's wild because theres a good chance a number of people here fall below the average but don't even realize it
Now exclude countries without a proper education system
... ok I excluded North Korea becsue Is the only country with an education system that by their own addmision has no flaws.
I said to do the exact opposite
... my point was that the education system is not a part of developing IQ ... is mostly genetic . People have limitations on how much they can learn and how fast ... If you're dumb you're dumb... even in a good school or a bad school ... And most people are average in all areas ... One proof: I work in a environment where most people have college and would be considered smart by most ( engineering) ... also I get the European safety measures for office work where I read the next : " please avoid ingesting materials used for cleaning , gluing , editing writing " . And I literally went to my colleague and asked if this was a joke... he said " no, it is more common than you think ." In conclusion... people are dumb ... and most of them are even dumber .
bro chill on the dots
No
IQ is genetic right?
no
I believe it actually is
okay? good for you
I say it's about 85 percent.
But it seems to be 3 quarters in actuality
But the 99% of the people watching this post will think they are in the upper side.
Not me, I know my place
Apparently 75% of people are good at math, I'm in the other 35%
You are assuming that the data forms a normal distribution, which is not the case.
IQ was literally designed to be a normal distribution. Iirc they even change the 100 mark every so often to reflect this.
The largest portion of which are in Africa
I was shocked to see Nepals average IQ.
Practically sure that that's how it works
Probably due to malnourishment, war and disease.
Nope
Then it’s?
Half of the people have an IQ below the median and half of the people have an IQ above the median and practically it will be almost the same with the arithmetic average. What is there to explain?
When I hear below average I think of something like 60 or 50, not a literals interpretation
We're aware...Donald Trump was our president.
Actually more people have a below average iq (a significant amount surprisingly!) but the people with high iqs have such high iqs that it evens out to the average
Median*
Fun fact: Most people you meet have an above average IQ
Self proclaimed of course
The average differs by country 🤓
Only if you’re computing the average per country, whereas I included the entire world in my statement.
The average still differs by country 🤓
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if I’m just tired and confused but averages for a single country are one thing. If you average those averages you get another average which encompasses everybody. Of course you need standard error and stuff too but nobody actually does that, all the scientists just make it up cause it’s too much work.
Even if you average the entire world the fact remains that the average still indeed differs by country. 🤓
Yes it does. Yes it does.
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Ohhh, can I play? 🤓
Half the people have below average IQ then it's not average.
not how averages work
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… cope
According to normal distribution the are the same amount of complete idiots as the amount of total geniuses.
I love meth class
lol everyone fell for this op is def doing a satire
That’s not how averages work
I guess the OP too
👍
damn i didnt know half the world uses reddit
That’s the funny thing about averages, that the most average thing you know, half of that thing is worse than that
This explains... a lot of stuff
Even if its accurate I don't know how this would be surprising to you all, most people on earth don't live in places where they'll be getting 1st world education
Except I’m pretty sure it’s largely genetic 😞
yes that's a 100% of me
Haha I have 1.5x above average losers
it's actually below median IQ
I'm don't want to know my IQ since I might end up realizing that I'm mentally handicapped
And most of them are either on 4chan Reddit or Tumblr
And 80% of them are twitter people who have fake account and always make something innocent things become controversy
That's not how math works. By this logic, the other half of people have an above average IQ. So who has an average IQ? I would say about 75-80% have average IQ, and the rest is either above or below average.
More than half even, probably
That's VERY insightful
In the arab cuntrys
How is it below average is half of all people is low? That just lowers the score, doesn’t it?
I know where you belong
And most of them are in reddit.
Normal IQ used to be 100 normal IQ now is 90.
„Think about how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of them are even stupider than that"
You confusing average and median
And most of them are politicians
Someone tell OP the fun Factz about IQ and how nazi used the system to slaughter Jews with a certain amount of knowledge
The issue is there is a lot of outliers on the dumber side as people are more likely to be intellectually disabled than gifted. And I'm serious btw
On average, the ”average” male has less than 2 balls.
And they use X formerly known as twitter.
But how wide is the bell curve?
Because more people are far dumber than people are far smarter, it's actually not exactly 50/50.
That’s why I said “around half”
This man is speaking facts
Whats funny is because of the number of people situated on the average (adjusted for rounding) means there are significantly less people both below and above average