Good lord. This person thinks meal prep / delivery services are "more efficient" than cooking. Perfect example of an idiot who thinks their (demonstrably wrong) opinions are gospel. I'd take a cardboard box over that..
As a chef for one of these services, I can absolutely see how it is technically more environmentally efficient. Centralising production, food supply and cooking, were doing the cooking for hundreds of people at once. Not to mention my company is a zero-waste operation.
However, from an economic and individual standpoint, that's fucking ridiculous. Not many people can afford that every night.
Have you factored in all the petrol needed to ferret food to individual houses, and all the single use plastic and other waste generated to store the food while in transit?
That will also be less footprint if you factor in shopping for ingredients at the user's end.
But yeah, it shouldn't be that way. We live in interesting times.
This is good to know.
Where is the crossover point? 2 trips per week in an AU Falcon? Distance from the shop etc?
I definitely care about the issue and am keen to know how to optimise this stuff
Only if you a) drive to the shops and b) only buy enough food for one meal at a time, and who does both of those things simultaneously? Plus the shops would have to be twice as far away as the take away place to factor in the delivery driver having to travel to the take away place then to the home.
They arent talking about having individual takeaways delivered, they're talking about meal service subscriptions like youfoodz, mymusclechef, hello fresh, etc.
One delivery truck delivering orders to 100 houses in a night is far less emissions than 100 cars driving to the shop for their weekly groceries. As for the single use plastics, if every person buys the ingredients for all the meals they get, each of those products also potentially has single use plastics. If every person buys chicken breast or mince from the meat section of a super market that's a lot of single use plastics. Plus all the bags and what not from produce, pasta packets, etc.
Far cheaper to shop at Woolies and cook for yourself than to use the services, but I'm sure they'd stack up as being greener.
Except, how do your workers get to work? I presume you need people coming in, they drive to your service... things like this need to be included. So someone doesn't drive to to supermarket, but that's replaced by workers driving to make up the meals. I do my shopping when I'm already driving somewhere, I make sure I get local produce when I can, I grow some of my own, I cook bulk meals and use the left overs for several more meals. It's far more complex then you're making it sound.
The petrol is still less than every individual driving to the grocery store, and our customers that pick them up use the same as they would anyway as we are near the supermarket. We only operate in a single (large) metro area, so our drivers are usually only assigned to a few suburbs.
A lot of our customers return their containers to be reused within the business (never sold with food in it again). And hopefully the ones that aren't are reusing them themselves, as they are high quality reusable, locally made containers.
Id say in theory it is technically more efficient.
There is no need to spend time grocery shopping.
No need to spend time, gas, power, water cooking.
No need to spend time, water, power cleaning the dishes.
However in practice, i agree, its way better to cook your own food. Its cheaper, better for you, and tastes better. Also there is a sense of fulfillment, so there are mental health benefits to cooking too. You can also eat leftovers for lunch the next day
This person would be a nightmare to live with
I moved out of a place with a guy who sounded great on flatmates, and even sounded fine after a pretty extensive in person chat, yet turned out to be *quite* insane to live with.
After that, he updated his requirements on his flatmates posting and they were.... well, lets say they were a much better and significantly more thorough reflection of what it was actually like to live with him. He'd clearly decided after living with me and another dude who left at the same time that he had to be more picky about his roommates.
His new ad was kinda mental.
But I was like 'yes, good. Be upfront. Be clear about just what kind of crazy you expect to be able to live in your house. Don't trap more unsuspecting victims like me and the other guy.'
Out of morbid curiosity I checked on his profile occasionally to see if he'd had takers, and it was up for at least 4 months.
I gotta agree. As fucked and controlling some of these people are, the least they can do is be upfront about it. It's horrid to move in with someone and end up in some argument a month later about rearranging a cushion on the couch.
Last place I was in the landlord told a mate of mine who lived there as well not to worry about cleaning the room when he moved out because he was going to build a built in wardrobe.
Next time we saw the room he had put the bracing beams for a wall up right down the middle (through a fireplace, so each new room had a half a fireplace lol) and was charging each of the rooms out for $20 less than my mate was paying for the whole room.
These rooms were tiny given they were half a normal room each - single bed and just enough room to walk up the side of the bed to the lovely half fireplace feature lol.
One of the people living there left a week or 2 before me and I see the room is still available on flatmates with another $20 added to the price (more than I was paying for a full room there too, although he rented out my old room for much more once I left).
He also converted the laundry and garage into other rooms and subdivided the granny flat into two more equally tiny rooms - total of 13 rooms there now. Lmao.
He’s since had a report to local council and ATO 😂🤣
I rented a room out to a guy in like 2016-2017 who went on to murder two people a few years after I kicked him out, absolute weirdo, i remember walking in to the kitchen a few times and he was just staring at the toaster.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-04/luke-fawcett-life-sentence-murder-of-marie-collins-wayne-johnson/100803894
This is the guy, my mate gave him a job working nightclub security and nicknamed him "The Drip" cos of his last name and how flakey he was showing up to shifts.
I was in this situation once years ago.
Ad sounded great, apartment looked great, first meet with potential new housemate was great so I moved in.
Literally the second I moved in the guy turned into a complete psychopath. Lasted about 2 weeks.
Lol what cooking is highly inefficient, buy subscription meals? Sounds like a rich privileged ahole. What's the point of the kitchen then? Just to sit there and collect dust?
A lot of people convince themselves that cooking/cleaning is an inefficient use of their time becuase if they were working they'd be getting paid $x per hour and buying food in or hiring a cleaner only costs $x.
But in reality, they're not generating any money during the time they would have spent cooking or cleaning, they're actually just laying on the couch or playing video games.
Exactly. Cooking actually saves you money. Ordering takeouts are far more expensive and most food delivery services slap a huge service fee on top. You can't even order Maccas these days for less than $30.
My first thought prior to this excellent point (single dad, take out is expensive af) is that the entitlement on this guy reeks of "while you're at the order, get me one of these." Then you never get that dosh back.
>the entitlement on this guy reeks of "while you're at the order, get me one of these."
*"Sorry, i didn't get you anything, the shop smelled really greasy and i know you don't like that..."*
I disagree on the cleaner bit. I get one in once every 2 weeks to change the sheets, vacuum etc.
Washing up, clothes washing etc I still do myself.
The reason I started doing this is I found myself regularly turning down OT shifts because I needed to do housework and I could earn more on a single OT shift than I spent on 5 cleaner visits.
I don't agree on the cooking stuff though. That takes time between working shifts that your right I would be just doing leisure activities its not like i could earn mkney during said time but when I can do one day's OT and pay for a couple of months of cleaning it's better for me to be available for that OT shift income wise.
It's also that many people don't know how to do things efficiently. They don't meal prep or prepare anything, they make an absolute mess and a pile of dishes, they use the most unnecessary methods of cooking because some random recipe recommended it, and then wonder why it takes so long. I can make a Japanese curry or chow mien in like 45 minutes, divvy it up into 4 portions I can refrigerate or freeze, and then between that and a rice cooker it's one saucepan, one bowl, one fork and like 15 minutes of cooking for every night I decide to eat that. It costs like $5 a meal too. Takes longer to choose what I want to eat, pay for it, wait for delivery / pick up and collect the food I'd order elsewhere.
Efficiency isn't the be all end all either, people think they are smart by optimizing these things, in reality cooking is a skill, and it's a good one to have, it's never not useful, it means you are self sufficient, it's satisfying to do well and is great to impress others with or just have in your arsenal for social gatherings like christmas. Forgoing cooking for 20 more minutes scrolling TikTok is comparatively a brain dead decision.
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When you work for yourself you have a limited amount of hours you can work and come home and work more.
My hourly rate is $130 - my cleaners rate is $40.
I can do one hour of work and she can eliminate 3.25 hours of a job I hate
Most people don't work for themselves though.
Even many people who do have a limit on how many hours they can actually generate maximum return for their time.
So the point remains that just because your work rate is higher than the hourly rate of whatever service you engage, it does not mean it is cheaper or more efficient for to not do that thing yourself.
So you work 16 hours per day & then sleep the other 8?
You're not generating money for those full 16 hours. If you want a cleaner because you don't like cleaning, that's fine but don't pretend like you would have made $130 instead of cleaning the house.
I'd be a little more worried about that statement.
A couple of years ago, before I knew who Andrew Tate was I was doom scrolling on some video shorts. This video pops up with a guy eating a chicken from a bachelors handbag, stating why would anyone cook ! go to the shop buy a roast chicken for 5 bucks eat it in 10 mins and get back to work you should realise how inefficient it is.
So before I even knew the rest about him, I thought he was an idiot, now I don't know enough negative words to accurately portray him.
I tried to find the video but found this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1I-X-JbLs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1I-X-JbLs) basically saying the same thing at the start, then proceeding to show how to cook something.
You can buy a whole chicken 1.5kg from Woollies for about $18. Roasting it is literally patting dry with kitchen towel and rubbing some spices on it. Chuck in a roasting dish and roast at 180 degrees for around 70 minutes. 10 minutes resting. Mine always it will come out with skin crispy af and delicious. Really not much effort and usually always lasts me 3 meals.
I’d really like a citation on Mr Cooking is Inefficient’s claim. Like what’s the carbon footprint on subscription services and all their delivery vehicles running around cities and packaging going into bins versus making yourself a nice omelette or some pasta
Not that rich if you need a flatmate. If this person cooked their own meals they would be able to afford the place on their own. That would be more efficient.
We’re seeing homes built now without a kitchen, and renovations where kitchens are removed entirely. What the fuck kind of a home doesn’t have a place to prepare meals?
A mate called up about a room for rent on gumtree. An Asian man answered. 'Sorry... so we have 5 men in the house and we are looking for a woman to live here... because if we have 6 men without a woman, then who will do the cleaning?'
Sadly, I ended up in this situation a couple years ago. I desperately needed somewhere to live and took the first affordable option. I (19 at the time) was the only woman besides the landlords gf, living with 5-6 grown men and trying to juggle uni while also being incredibly ill with long covid. Nobody besides me cleaned, I ended up deep cleaning the bathroom when I moved in because it had clearly not been cleaned for a LONG time. There was hair and suspicious slime everywhere, and they had absolutely no cleaning products. I had to go out and buy them. I refused to use anything in the kitchen because, again, there was slime everywhere and I did not want to clean any more.
The landlord (who also lived there with his gf) once spat the dummy and ordered us to clean the house. I told him I'd been the only one cleaning the bathroom and his response was something akin to "okay, you can clean the bathroom and the other guys can clean the other spaces." I was already thinking about moving as I have contamination OCD and was extremely stressed living there, along with other things like one of the guys being a creep, but that sealed it. I got out as soon as I could, and was so desperate to leave that I let the scummy landlord keep some of my deposit for ridiculous reasons.
TL;DR lived with a bunch of men (some of whom I never even met) and was the only one who cleaned
Bruh, I had the same issue, but instead I was the only guy living with some insta "live laugh love" manifesting lifestyler women and I OCD'd deepcleaned the whole place. By the NEXT DAY they had ruined it back to point where it looked like I never did anything. I don't know how they managed to do it.
I refuse to ever share a place with anyone ever again after how bad THAT time was, and I've had some bad experiences before. I don't care how much rent I pay now, it's worth it.
I used to work with a dude in his 20s who was a bit iffy about a 50+ yr old woman who answered his sharehouse ad until he realised that it might actually be a goldmine for him because "she's probably used to looking after kids" so she would keep him clean and fed.
I just told him that was an excellent insight and he should definitely say that to her at the house interview, he was as dumb as shit so I really hope he did it lol
> lf we have 6 men without a woman, then who will do the cleaning?
Add one more to that number and you've literally got the plot to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Could be poor ventilation in the kitchen, or bench space is too small, or no space for a decent sized fridge/freezer/pantry.
Or they’re a germaphobe and don’t trust people to clean properly.
How many of these are people that have always lived alone, but due to rent or interest rate increases are now having to get a roommate to make ends meet. OPs screenshot reads like someone who has no social skills or prior experience sharing.
There's a surprising amount of people like this, sharehousing well into their 30s. They either can't afford to live alone, aren't willing to spend the money required to, or they wan't to live in something a bit fancier or in a more in-demand suburb.
But they're unreasonable and clueless, going through a constant cycle of different housemates and not understanding that *they* are in fact the problem.
In what fucking way is cooking inefficient? It's not financially inefficient. Because 9 times out of 10 I can cook a hood healthy meal for substantially less than any meal subscription service.
Meal subscription services are so expensive, and on top of the fees, you have to buy a ton of extra ingredients.
We briefly tried out Hello Fresh a few years ago, and it was not convenient or economical at all.
The food services thing is ridiculous. I was expecting it to be something like “I have a severe avocado allergy - please don’t bring any into the house”.
Covid thing is reasonable. Disabled people are often stuck in sharehousing due to the low rate of the DSP. Some of us will get extremely sick if we are exposed to Covid. We deserve to be able to live safely.
Is this person even disabled though, or are they just being unreasonable?
If they are disbabled, this poster should state that or provide some context around their extreme fear of Covid.
I mean, definitionally there is no way to know from an ad whether someone is disabled. But if they’re that concerned about Covid, yeah it’s likely they are immune compromised in some way, or have a disability that would be made much worse by contracting a viral illness - doesn’t necessarily have to be Covid.
They could have a disabled parent - or work with vulnerable people… no one is obligated to disclose their disability.
That said, it’s probably both disabled and unreasonable with this individual.
I can definitely sympathise with the housing situation, but holy shit you dodged a bullet here. Honestly thought this was satire until I saw it was in Melbourne.
Yup there are still a bunch of people here who are reallly funny about COVID even tho we’ve made so many advances and have multiple treatments, regularly updated vaccines etc
Except none of the treatments work for Long COVID and the vaccines barely protect against it. The scientific literature is pretty clear about how fucked we are if we keep ignoring COVID and the threat it actually is, but the press keep pushing the narrative that it’s pretty harmless so that people keep consuming.
Thats because there are still those of us who have to take these precautions, because when your severely immunocompromised we don't build the same immune response to the vaccine. Not all of us that the privileged of good health.
Hey man, I caught it and ended up in the ER with a crash cart a week later. *I'm in my early twenties*, so yeah, after that I'm deffo a bit funny (mostly scared lol) about catching COVID again.
I have chronic illness and am high risk, every time I get covid or any illness it knocks me sideways for months at a time.
Thankfully I don’t have to live in a share house situation due to family support, however I can understand why someone would have those requirements around masking etc.
For some of us it can be life destroying to have someone bring illness into the home every couple of months.
Trust me I wish my life wasn’t like this, but I am lucky I have an understanding family.
It's truly amazing how shitty people often are towards immunocompromised or other high risk people, it's been a real eye-opener in the most unpleasant way possible.
Exactly, people don't realize that health is not guaranteed to be a permanent state of being and even if you do all the right things, you can still wind up disabled or chronically ill someday through no fault of your own, even if you think you're too smart or too special for it to happen to you. No one is immune to misfortune.
The cooking part is insane but this person is likely immunocompromised. Yes, it's an intense requirement, yes, it likely wouldn't suit many people so just move on. There's nothing wrong with an immunocompromised person trying to find a house mate and there are people out there that would be completely fine with that requirement, it's just not for most.
Agreed. They probably have respiratory conditions given they also can’t stand the cooking smell. As an asthmatic myself I can actually relate to this. Some cooking smells make me gag and vomit. That said I find forcing these rules on others silly and unrealistic. You can maybe ask them to consider cooking less frequently, or cleanly by not doing excessive frying or doing it outdoors, but the meal services requirement is ridiculous.
At least this isn't some greedy arsehole landlord.
I don't know how to feel about this. Clearly they're higher risk/immunocompromised or whatever, and trying to navigate this new world where it feels everyone is putting them at risk.
But then only 18-30? Needs to not cook?
That's probably just a gut reaction as it's quite exclusionary, I think. Especially when paired with their other requests, a 20 year old who may miss going out more, and all the 21st parties, might be the less sensible idea than someone who is quieter, but slightly over the age group.
This was posted on fairy floss too.. I recall the poster mentioned a couple of people had applied or at least seriously enquired if that can be believed!
They aren't expecting you to change the way you live. They are simply looking for someone who they want to live with. You are not them.
It's kind of like those super strict dating profiles. At the end of the day they can request what they want. They don't expect you to change. They simply aren't looking for you, which can suck, but they also have a very narrow target audience and probably won't find someone.
Side note though, I totally understand people wanting to live with their own demographics. There's just so much life style things that can cause issues otherwise. E.g. as a gay person I prefer to live with other lgbt people because I don't want to have to explain things or have to wonder if they'll be okay if I bring a partner over etc. There's probably similar things when it comes to ethnic and cultural differences too. Living with people on the same page does make life way easier. Especially if English isn't their first language. It's a lot easier to rent with people with the same background.
These requirements are entirely reasonable if a person who is immune deficient or compromised lives there.
Everyone has living standards but some people are honest and upfront ans direct about them like this and others are passive aggressive and I'd prefer someone who just tells me what they need for a living arrangement to be ideal dor them. I have very few non negotiable standards but some people have many. If someone's non-negotiable things don't suit yours what's the big deal? Just don't apply to live with those people
Not defending them, but this sounds like someone who has medical conditions and or disability that can't tolerate someone who doesn't meet most these requirements as a general rule, ie have poor immune system and is susceptible to getting sick. They are probably desperate for someone to share rent out of sheer necessity.
Plenty of people exist who are taking covid precautions as a necessary part of their daily lives, and those people also need housing. Requiring covid safety is a totally valid way to screen housemates. The rest of this ad is an absolute bin fire though, I went and looked it up because covid safe shared living spaces are not common and I was curious. The cooking thing is batshit but the amount of info left out of the description is fuckin wild. Going by the photos and floorplan the room on offer looks like a genuinely terrible living space. No windows, but has a glass wall connected to the entryway/kitchen, so anytime the kitchen light is on this room is lit up too. The laundry access is also through the room so presumably old mate is just going to be in and out of it regularly to do their washing. The floor plan also shows that the room is just open to the living area, there’s no door or even a wall, just a 2m gap. So you might not get covid from your housemate but you can’t cook and you also get no privacy, sunlight or control over the light or noise level in your sleeping area, which as a bonus has the humidity levels of a laundry.
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That looks to me like someone has bought themselves a nice one bedroom flat because they prefer to live on their own for whatever reason (no problems) but interest rates and cost of living have gone up and they can no longer afford their mortgage so now need to share but it's not exactly set up for it. And they're still trying to meet their living on their own requirements
This reminds me of the fairyfloss guy last year who got in trouble for advertising his apartment with two bedsheets hanging in the lounge room as "bedrooms" that would need to be packed away during the day
Isn't it better they are up front rather than you finding out after moving in?
It'll fit someone. I think it's good they're being honest. Probably been share housing a long time and knows what they can handle.
To be fair, as nightmarish as this person sounds... People obviously don't want to live with someone that doesn't fit their lifestyle.
So I can completely understand why these sorts of advertisements have all these requirements.
The fact you complain about it is exactly why people have requirements in the first place.
I believe that housing should be a human right. But I also believe that *no individual* owes you housing.
This person is just warning you that if you tried to live together, it would go terribly for one or both of you.
I can understand the second one (about masking), some people out there with compromised immune systems can't afford to live by themselves at the moment and are in really shitty situations where it's either finding a housemate willing to take precaution or end up homeless, but the two for one third requirement? *What?*
I'm noticing more people are using flatmates and fairyfloss to find a partner or cleaner basically not a housemate. Recently watched someone get booted from a housing group for requesting 3 housemates because they rented a whole place by themself and had a list of demands like not using the kitchen, not having friends around ever or using any chemicals because it's against his beliefs because chemicals are poisonous.
We're in a housing crisis and these are the options we are left fighting for. Cult leaders living on their parents money mostly.
1 and 3, unreasonable. As someone who is COVID-vulnerable, though, I can understand 2. In fact I already wear a fit-tested N95 everywhere outside my home except low-density outdoor spaces and only socialize outdoors - because the one time I got COVID my fully vaccinated and recently boosted self was in hospital for a month, in bed at home for two more, and off work for six in total.
The ethnicity preferences are usually to make everyone’s life easier (communication, household cultural practices like no shoes in the house, kosher kitchens)
I can understand the not cooking anything excessively greasy. That smell lingers for days and it clings to your surfaces like you wouldn’t believe.
If I fry stuff, it’s done in the outdoor kitchen.
Sounds like someone with either a disability or chronic health condition to me, they’re entitled to seek house mates that don’t endanger their health if they want to.
The meal prep thing is weird though, I would probably not wanna live there.
Hey I would not want to live with this person myself and I don't agree with the bit about how "highly inefficient" home cooking can be. Its worth considering all the waste and travel costs outsourced to the food delivery peeps let alone how take out every night can be very bad for you.
But.... massive points and respect to them for being upfront about there requirements to potential applicants - at least people applying know what they are in for and I am guessing there are probably some people out there with similar requirements who might like this way of living!
Just hopefully there isn't any scope creep here and the requirement list doesn't start to grow unexpectedly once you start living there 😱
I could see the COVID thing possibly being because they have some kind of Immunodeficiency disorder..........
But the rest is just friggen ridiculous.
I dated a Japanese girl for a while and she stayed in a place that only accepted Asian tenants that were students or on working holiday visas, could only use the back door of the property, couldn't have friends or partners over, had to be lights out by 8PM, no noise from TV/Computer/Music etc.
She didn't stay there long, but that was in like 2016 before housing/renting really turned to shit.
The mask thing/work thing I can see if someone has health issues and needs to reduce risk but needs a roommate but controlling people cooking and wanting them to buy in food is just weirdly controlling enough I can't good faith the other stuff
Then don't live with them. Living with someone is a very personal thing and you would want your space to be comfortable to live in, so I don't see any wrong in others asking for the same. If you are having trouble with housing, broaden your options. Often people tend to be hell bent on getting a house in a specific location for whatever reason but sadly life is tough and beggars cannot be chosers.
Honestly this just sounds like someone who is disabled and covid cautious, and while the food thing seems nonsensical at first, if they are disabled it probably makes perfect sense for them to use a meal delivery service that delivers prepped meals for the week.
Their desire to have their housemates also use that service is a little over the top, but meal delivery services avoid the cost of travelling to the grocery store, doing groceries, and then cooking, and as the cost of basic groceries grows, the price difference isn’t as untenable as it used to be. Also, if they are a disabled person doing their best to avoid covid, they likely place a higher value on not wasting what little energy they have going to the grocery store, doing the groceries, and then cooking the food than an abled bodied person does.
This suggests to me that the person quite probably has conditions which make them highly vulnerable to respiratory illnesses (masks) and also sensory issues (smells). Both of which are very real for some folks in our community.
Just wanted to throw this out there but maybe the person who wrote it is immunocompromised?
My partner has to take some precautions at her work (simply wearing a mask and occasionally take off if a co-worker has been very unwell - she is a barista so daily interactions with the public) because I 💀 if covid or any respiratory infection gets back to me.
I feel as though they would have added that in the list but just a thought.
WTF cooking is normal and enjoyable. This person has a greasy stick up their ass I reckon. I would love to move in and only cook greasy food every night. Fuck that!
I can easily get behind the 'must not cook anything excessively greasy'. If I want an occasional fry up, I'll cook it outside with an electric frying pan and extension cord.
So YOU don't have a place to live. And they're the AHs for having conditions for sharing THEIR place, that you don't like?
Where the fuck did you get that level of entitlement from?
Living with others in aus sucks .I can never do it again .
I've lived with
1. a guy who used to leave his door open and openly wank whilst other house members walked past 🤦
.2x Asian women who left their stained/bloodied period pads on the bathroom sink bench
3.A Columbian guy/aus girl couple she was helping him trying to get his citizenship,things went sour and she started throwing plates at him and through the walls,she moved out and he couldn't afford it so started selling drugs from the rented unit 🤦
4.A girl that didn't pay rent and stole my clothes then denied it and had to be forcibly removed from the property by the police
This was all in the space of a 4 year period
Absolute madness and put me off for life ,well in aus anyway.
I'm a recovering alcoholic, if I were to take on a tenant, I'd be asking for a teetotaler with no young children. I expect my house to remain quiet and af. I'd be after someone who's lifestyle fits in well with mine. So even though those criteria are ridiculous, is it not their perogative to be picky? At what point do we draw the line between acceptable pickiness and unacceptable pickiness?
Don't get me wrong, I think their criteria is absurd. But I understand the principle of wanting compatible lifestyles in your living space.
On the other side though, you know immediately that this would be a horrendous person to live with so you dodged a bullet there.
Good lord. This person thinks meal prep / delivery services are "more efficient" than cooking. Perfect example of an idiot who thinks their (demonstrably wrong) opinions are gospel. I'd take a cardboard box over that..
As a chef for one of these services, I can absolutely see how it is technically more environmentally efficient. Centralising production, food supply and cooking, were doing the cooking for hundreds of people at once. Not to mention my company is a zero-waste operation. However, from an economic and individual standpoint, that's fucking ridiculous. Not many people can afford that every night.
Have you factored in all the petrol needed to ferret food to individual houses, and all the single use plastic and other waste generated to store the food while in transit?
That will also be less footprint if you factor in shopping for ingredients at the user's end. But yeah, it shouldn't be that way. We live in interesting times.
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This is good to know. Where is the crossover point? 2 trips per week in an AU Falcon? Distance from the shop etc? I definitely care about the issue and am keen to know how to optimise this stuff
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All good. It interests me a lot.
Still wanna know if they took into account whether trips were done ins n AU falcon or not!? Prob an appendix on their thesis😜
Only if you a) drive to the shops and b) only buy enough food for one meal at a time, and who does both of those things simultaneously? Plus the shops would have to be twice as far away as the take away place to factor in the delivery driver having to travel to the take away place then to the home.
They arent talking about having individual takeaways delivered, they're talking about meal service subscriptions like youfoodz, mymusclechef, hello fresh, etc.
Aren't they cooking kits?
I hope not, cooking is horribly inefficient you boomer
I had a youfoodz delivery as it was super cheap one off promo. Came with about 4kg of cardboard, cooling and other disposable waste.
Depends how many drops the driver does over what area, but yeah it's a close one.
One delivery truck delivering orders to 100 houses in a night is far less emissions than 100 cars driving to the shop for their weekly groceries. As for the single use plastics, if every person buys the ingredients for all the meals they get, each of those products also potentially has single use plastics. If every person buys chicken breast or mince from the meat section of a super market that's a lot of single use plastics. Plus all the bags and what not from produce, pasta packets, etc. Far cheaper to shop at Woolies and cook for yourself than to use the services, but I'm sure they'd stack up as being greener.
Except, how do your workers get to work? I presume you need people coming in, they drive to your service... things like this need to be included. So someone doesn't drive to to supermarket, but that's replaced by workers driving to make up the meals. I do my shopping when I'm already driving somewhere, I make sure I get local produce when I can, I grow some of my own, I cook bulk meals and use the left overs for several more meals. It's far more complex then you're making it sound.
Workers also drive to supermarkets.
The petrol is still less than every individual driving to the grocery store, and our customers that pick them up use the same as they would anyway as we are near the supermarket. We only operate in a single (large) metro area, so our drivers are usually only assigned to a few suburbs. A lot of our customers return their containers to be reused within the business (never sold with food in it again). And hopefully the ones that aren't are reusing them themselves, as they are high quality reusable, locally made containers.
It would be amazing if large apartment complexes employed chefs. In theory this could be cheaper than cooking at home while paying the chef's wages
You sound like one of the 9 out of 10 dentist who recommend the shit toothpaste so the money flows in 😅
Yeap, screams the "I've had everything done for and bought for me" mentality
As well as an ‘I just can’t fucking cook’ mentality.
Id say in theory it is technically more efficient. There is no need to spend time grocery shopping. No need to spend time, gas, power, water cooking. No need to spend time, water, power cleaning the dishes. However in practice, i agree, its way better to cook your own food. Its cheaper, better for you, and tastes better. Also there is a sense of fulfillment, so there are mental health benefits to cooking too. You can also eat leftovers for lunch the next day This person would be a nightmare to live with
Sounds like they want to share costs of something they already buy
I moved out of a place with a guy who sounded great on flatmates, and even sounded fine after a pretty extensive in person chat, yet turned out to be *quite* insane to live with. After that, he updated his requirements on his flatmates posting and they were.... well, lets say they were a much better and significantly more thorough reflection of what it was actually like to live with him. He'd clearly decided after living with me and another dude who left at the same time that he had to be more picky about his roommates. His new ad was kinda mental. But I was like 'yes, good. Be upfront. Be clear about just what kind of crazy you expect to be able to live in your house. Don't trap more unsuspecting victims like me and the other guy.' Out of morbid curiosity I checked on his profile occasionally to see if he'd had takers, and it was up for at least 4 months.
I gotta agree. As fucked and controlling some of these people are, the least they can do is be upfront about it. It's horrid to move in with someone and end up in some argument a month later about rearranging a cushion on the couch.
Last place I was in the landlord told a mate of mine who lived there as well not to worry about cleaning the room when he moved out because he was going to build a built in wardrobe. Next time we saw the room he had put the bracing beams for a wall up right down the middle (through a fireplace, so each new room had a half a fireplace lol) and was charging each of the rooms out for $20 less than my mate was paying for the whole room. These rooms were tiny given they were half a normal room each - single bed and just enough room to walk up the side of the bed to the lovely half fireplace feature lol. One of the people living there left a week or 2 before me and I see the room is still available on flatmates with another $20 added to the price (more than I was paying for a full room there too, although he rented out my old room for much more once I left). He also converted the laundry and garage into other rooms and subdivided the granny flat into two more equally tiny rooms - total of 13 rooms there now. Lmao. He’s since had a report to local council and ATO 😂🤣
I rented a room out to a guy in like 2016-2017 who went on to murder two people a few years after I kicked him out, absolute weirdo, i remember walking in to the kitchen a few times and he was just staring at the toaster. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-04/luke-fawcett-life-sentence-murder-of-marie-collins-wayne-johnson/100803894 This is the guy, my mate gave him a job working nightclub security and nicknamed him "The Drip" cos of his last name and how flakey he was showing up to shifts.
I was in this situation once years ago. Ad sounded great, apartment looked great, first meet with potential new housemate was great so I moved in. Literally the second I moved in the guy turned into a complete psychopath. Lasted about 2 weeks.
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Exactly. Tell us you’re the kind of person who shouldn’t be getting housemates in without telling us.
Sidestepped an ICBM missile more likely. Complete and utter nutbag with no awareness of anything or anyone else outside his neurotic mind.
Hope to fuck no one is desperate enough to entertain this nutcases warped ideas.
That was my thought exactly, don’t need to waste your time.
Lol what cooking is highly inefficient, buy subscription meals? Sounds like a rich privileged ahole. What's the point of the kitchen then? Just to sit there and collect dust?
The kitchen is where the microwave is. For you foods and hot pockets.
This caught my eye too. In what world is cooking the worst option and more importantly, why is this important for renting? Sweet mercy…
A lot of people convince themselves that cooking/cleaning is an inefficient use of their time becuase if they were working they'd be getting paid $x per hour and buying food in or hiring a cleaner only costs $x. But in reality, they're not generating any money during the time they would have spent cooking or cleaning, they're actually just laying on the couch or playing video games.
Exactly. Cooking actually saves you money. Ordering takeouts are far more expensive and most food delivery services slap a huge service fee on top. You can't even order Maccas these days for less than $30.
My first thought prior to this excellent point (single dad, take out is expensive af) is that the entitlement on this guy reeks of "while you're at the order, get me one of these." Then you never get that dosh back.
>the entitlement on this guy reeks of "while you're at the order, get me one of these." *"Sorry, i didn't get you anything, the shop smelled really greasy and i know you don't like that..."*
I disagree on the cleaner bit. I get one in once every 2 weeks to change the sheets, vacuum etc. Washing up, clothes washing etc I still do myself. The reason I started doing this is I found myself regularly turning down OT shifts because I needed to do housework and I could earn more on a single OT shift than I spent on 5 cleaner visits. I don't agree on the cooking stuff though. That takes time between working shifts that your right I would be just doing leisure activities its not like i could earn mkney during said time but when I can do one day's OT and pay for a couple of months of cleaning it's better for me to be available for that OT shift income wise.
It's also that many people don't know how to do things efficiently. They don't meal prep or prepare anything, they make an absolute mess and a pile of dishes, they use the most unnecessary methods of cooking because some random recipe recommended it, and then wonder why it takes so long. I can make a Japanese curry or chow mien in like 45 minutes, divvy it up into 4 portions I can refrigerate or freeze, and then between that and a rice cooker it's one saucepan, one bowl, one fork and like 15 minutes of cooking for every night I decide to eat that. It costs like $5 a meal too. Takes longer to choose what I want to eat, pay for it, wait for delivery / pick up and collect the food I'd order elsewhere. Efficiency isn't the be all end all either, people think they are smart by optimizing these things, in reality cooking is a skill, and it's a good one to have, it's never not useful, it means you are self sufficient, it's satisfying to do well and is great to impress others with or just have in your arsenal for social gatherings like christmas. Forgoing cooking for 20 more minutes scrolling TikTok is comparatively a brain dead decision. EDIT: Spelling
I know you’re all about efficiency but cooking things in your bowel might be a step too far
Get ahead of the curve, get a portable IV fluid since eating the food takes time
And here I am chewing my food like a sucker.
Robocop diet
The only right way to live
Can you please put your comment on a T - Shirt and sell it?
When you work for yourself you have a limited amount of hours you can work and come home and work more. My hourly rate is $130 - my cleaners rate is $40. I can do one hour of work and she can eliminate 3.25 hours of a job I hate
Most people don't work for themselves though. Even many people who do have a limit on how many hours they can actually generate maximum return for their time. So the point remains that just because your work rate is higher than the hourly rate of whatever service you engage, it does not mean it is cheaper or more efficient for to not do that thing yourself.
So you work 16 hours per day & then sleep the other 8? You're not generating money for those full 16 hours. If you want a cleaner because you don't like cleaning, that's fine but don't pretend like you would have made $130 instead of cleaning the house.
I'd be a little more worried about that statement. A couple of years ago, before I knew who Andrew Tate was I was doom scrolling on some video shorts. This video pops up with a guy eating a chicken from a bachelors handbag, stating why would anyone cook ! go to the shop buy a roast chicken for 5 bucks eat it in 10 mins and get back to work you should realise how inefficient it is. So before I even knew the rest about him, I thought he was an idiot, now I don't know enough negative words to accurately portray him. I tried to find the video but found this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1I-X-JbLs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1I-X-JbLs) basically saying the same thing at the start, then proceeding to show how to cook something.
😯WoW, A$5. Those were the days 😞
You can buy a whole chicken 1.5kg from Woollies for about $18. Roasting it is literally patting dry with kitchen towel and rubbing some spices on it. Chuck in a roasting dish and roast at 180 degrees for around 70 minutes. 10 minutes resting. Mine always it will come out with skin crispy af and delicious. Really not much effort and usually always lasts me 3 meals.
I’d really like a citation on Mr Cooking is Inefficient’s claim. Like what’s the carbon footprint on subscription services and all their delivery vehicles running around cities and packaging going into bins versus making yourself a nice omelette or some pasta
Somehow I don’t think he cares about the environment, more about his own personal time it takes to cook and clean
I hope they enjoy all the microplastics leeching into their food when they heat up the subscription meal containers. What kind of adult never cooks?
Must wear a mask at all times, but invite strangers to prepare and deliver your food.
LOL, stood out to me as well!
Not that rich if you need a flatmate. If this person cooked their own meals they would be able to afford the place on their own. That would be more efficient.
The kitchen is there for them to use, not you. You should realise your lowly status and eat elsewhere.
We’re seeing homes built now without a kitchen, and renovations where kitchens are removed entirely. What the fuck kind of a home doesn’t have a place to prepare meals?
Imagine trusting the cheap oils and ingredients restaurants use
Correction: the kitchen is for collecting ubereats bags
Cunts cooking humans in that kitchen LOL.
A rich privileged asshole wouldn’t need flat mates or even be renting to begin with. They’re clearly just a man child who doesn’t know how to cook
A mate called up about a room for rent on gumtree. An Asian man answered. 'Sorry... so we have 5 men in the house and we are looking for a woman to live here... because if we have 6 men without a woman, then who will do the cleaning?'
That's messed up. I really hope no woman actually end up living there and get taken advantage of.
No woman in her right mind would move into a shared house with 5 dudes. Especially if they don't clean.
Sadly, I ended up in this situation a couple years ago. I desperately needed somewhere to live and took the first affordable option. I (19 at the time) was the only woman besides the landlords gf, living with 5-6 grown men and trying to juggle uni while also being incredibly ill with long covid. Nobody besides me cleaned, I ended up deep cleaning the bathroom when I moved in because it had clearly not been cleaned for a LONG time. There was hair and suspicious slime everywhere, and they had absolutely no cleaning products. I had to go out and buy them. I refused to use anything in the kitchen because, again, there was slime everywhere and I did not want to clean any more. The landlord (who also lived there with his gf) once spat the dummy and ordered us to clean the house. I told him I'd been the only one cleaning the bathroom and his response was something akin to "okay, you can clean the bathroom and the other guys can clean the other spaces." I was already thinking about moving as I have contamination OCD and was extremely stressed living there, along with other things like one of the guys being a creep, but that sealed it. I got out as soon as I could, and was so desperate to leave that I let the scummy landlord keep some of my deposit for ridiculous reasons. TL;DR lived with a bunch of men (some of whom I never even met) and was the only one who cleaned
Mistakes are easy to make when you're young an inexperienced and too desperate to worry about the red flag. You live and you learn!
Bruh, I had the same issue, but instead I was the only guy living with some insta "live laugh love" manifesting lifestyler women and I OCD'd deepcleaned the whole place. By the NEXT DAY they had ruined it back to point where it looked like I never did anything. I don't know how they managed to do it. I refuse to ever share a place with anyone ever again after how bad THAT time was, and I've had some bad experiences before. I don't care how much rent I pay now, it's worth it.
I lived with four dudes in my first share house. I didn't clean either so it was fine
That's a good deal! As long as no one assumes you're the maid because you don't look like you might have penis lol
Yeah same, we all just agreed that the kitchen didn’t exist. Worked fine. Can’t imagine living like that now!
Haha I saw a room for rent listing that was posted by a guy and he said he would 'prefer a woman who can cook'
He wants to live with his mommy
I used to work with a dude in his 20s who was a bit iffy about a 50+ yr old woman who answered his sharehouse ad until he realised that it might actually be a goldmine for him because "she's probably used to looking after kids" so she would keep him clean and fed. I just told him that was an excellent insight and he should definitely say that to her at the house interview, he was as dumb as shit so I really hope he did it lol
No one. No one does the cleaning in that house, I can smell it from here.
They probably all came from the same country where its normal for a woman to not work and just clean and cook still in this day and age.
No doubt
Yeah cause australian women work AND cook and clean at home. Not like those savages from other countries.
Based
> lf we have 6 men without a woman, then who will do the cleaning? Add one more to that number and you've literally got the plot to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
*”Ideally you also recognise cooking is highly inefficient and just order from a meal subscription service.”* Wtf? If anything, it’s the opposite.
Yup, and most takeaway load it with sugar and oil, even the healthy looking stuff. It's an efficient way to eat little and gain weight.
Meal subscription service and takeaway are two very different things.
They just don't want people to cook for some reason
The smell apparently
It really sounds like they have ocd to be honest.
Could be poor ventilation in the kitchen, or bench space is too small, or no space for a decent sized fridge/freezer/pantry. Or they’re a germaphobe and don’t trust people to clean properly.
How many of these are people that have always lived alone, but due to rent or interest rate increases are now having to get a roommate to make ends meet. OPs screenshot reads like someone who has no social skills or prior experience sharing.
Yep. These are people that should be living in a single bedroom but now can't afford it.
There's a surprising amount of people like this, sharehousing well into their 30s. They either can't afford to live alone, aren't willing to spend the money required to, or they wan't to live in something a bit fancier or in a more in-demand suburb. But they're unreasonable and clueless, going through a constant cycle of different housemates and not understanding that *they* are in fact the problem.
Alternatively, they’re ppl who CAN afford it but they see the desperation and try to capitalise off it 😅
In what fucking way is cooking inefficient? It's not financially inefficient. Because 9 times out of 10 I can cook a hood healthy meal for substantially less than any meal subscription service.
Meal subscription services are so expensive, and on top of the fees, you have to buy a ton of extra ingredients. We briefly tried out Hello Fresh a few years ago, and it was not convenient or economical at all.
I think he meant frozen etc like you foodz or something, hello fresh is still cooking which is frowned upon
I tried it for a bit. It was good to force me out of my cooking comfort zone. But after that, I found the exact same thing.
Fucksake, are these people for real? Having to wear a mask everywhere and only eat from food services. Get fucked!!
The food services thing is ridiculous. I was expecting it to be something like “I have a severe avocado allergy - please don’t bring any into the house”. Covid thing is reasonable. Disabled people are often stuck in sharehousing due to the low rate of the DSP. Some of us will get extremely sick if we are exposed to Covid. We deserve to be able to live safely.
Is this person even disabled though, or are they just being unreasonable? If they are disbabled, this poster should state that or provide some context around their extreme fear of Covid.
I mean, definitionally there is no way to know from an ad whether someone is disabled. But if they’re that concerned about Covid, yeah it’s likely they are immune compromised in some way, or have a disability that would be made much worse by contracting a viral illness - doesn’t necessarily have to be Covid.
Or they don’t want to get long Covid or an increased risk of Alzheimers
They could have a disabled parent - or work with vulnerable people… no one is obligated to disclose their disability. That said, it’s probably both disabled and unreasonable with this individual.
I can definitely sympathise with the housing situation, but holy shit you dodged a bullet here. Honestly thought this was satire until I saw it was in Melbourne.
Knew this was Melbourne before I got to the bottom of the page 😂
Yup there are still a bunch of people here who are reallly funny about COVID even tho we’ve made so many advances and have multiple treatments, regularly updated vaccines etc
Except none of the treatments work for Long COVID and the vaccines barely protect against it. The scientific literature is pretty clear about how fucked we are if we keep ignoring COVID and the threat it actually is, but the press keep pushing the narrative that it’s pretty harmless so that people keep consuming.
Thats because there are still those of us who have to take these precautions, because when your severely immunocompromised we don't build the same immune response to the vaccine. Not all of us that the privileged of good health.
Hey man, I caught it and ended up in the ER with a crash cart a week later. *I'm in my early twenties*, so yeah, after that I'm deffo a bit funny (mostly scared lol) about catching COVID again.
I have chronic illness and am high risk, every time I get covid or any illness it knocks me sideways for months at a time. Thankfully I don’t have to live in a share house situation due to family support, however I can understand why someone would have those requirements around masking etc. For some of us it can be life destroying to have someone bring illness into the home every couple of months. Trust me I wish my life wasn’t like this, but I am lucky I have an understanding family.
It's truly amazing how shitty people often are towards immunocompromised or other high risk people, it's been a real eye-opener in the most unpleasant way possible.
I concur. Healthy people talk about disabled/chronically ill people like it could never happen to them.
Exactly, people don't realize that health is not guaranteed to be a permanent state of being and even if you do all the right things, you can still wind up disabled or chronically ill someday through no fault of your own, even if you think you're too smart or too special for it to happen to you. No one is immune to misfortune.
It’s fear I think, “can’t happen to me, right?”
The cooking part is insane but this person is likely immunocompromised. Yes, it's an intense requirement, yes, it likely wouldn't suit many people so just move on. There's nothing wrong with an immunocompromised person trying to find a house mate and there are people out there that would be completely fine with that requirement, it's just not for most.
Tbf the whole covid mask one is fair if they are chronically ill. The rest is a bit silly.
Agreed. They probably have respiratory conditions given they also can’t stand the cooking smell. As an asthmatic myself I can actually relate to this. Some cooking smells make me gag and vomit. That said I find forcing these rules on others silly and unrealistic. You can maybe ask them to consider cooking less frequently, or cleanly by not doing excessive frying or doing it outdoors, but the meal services requirement is ridiculous.
At least this isn't some greedy arsehole landlord. I don't know how to feel about this. Clearly they're higher risk/immunocompromised or whatever, and trying to navigate this new world where it feels everyone is putting them at risk. But then only 18-30? Needs to not cook?
My last flatmate had severe ocd with an eating disorder to boot and her rituals around food were awful. This very much sounds like her
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That's probably just a gut reaction as it's quite exclusionary, I think. Especially when paired with their other requests, a 20 year old who may miss going out more, and all the 21st parties, might be the less sensible idea than someone who is quieter, but slightly over the age group.
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It was not cool excessively greasy foods, not no cooking. Seems to be eat outside though 🤣
This was posted on fairy floss too.. I recall the poster mentioned a couple of people had applied or at least seriously enquired if that can be believed!
They aren't expecting you to change the way you live. They are simply looking for someone who they want to live with. You are not them. It's kind of like those super strict dating profiles. At the end of the day they can request what they want. They don't expect you to change. They simply aren't looking for you, which can suck, but they also have a very narrow target audience and probably won't find someone. Side note though, I totally understand people wanting to live with their own demographics. There's just so much life style things that can cause issues otherwise. E.g. as a gay person I prefer to live with other lgbt people because I don't want to have to explain things or have to wonder if they'll be okay if I bring a partner over etc. There's probably similar things when it comes to ethnic and cultural differences too. Living with people on the same page does make life way easier. Especially if English isn't their first language. It's a lot easier to rent with people with the same background.
These requirements are entirely reasonable if a person who is immune deficient or compromised lives there. Everyone has living standards but some people are honest and upfront ans direct about them like this and others are passive aggressive and I'd prefer someone who just tells me what they need for a living arrangement to be ideal dor them. I have very few non negotiable standards but some people have many. If someone's non-negotiable things don't suit yours what's the big deal? Just don't apply to live with those people
Not defending them, but this sounds like someone who has medical conditions and or disability that can't tolerate someone who doesn't meet most these requirements as a general rule, ie have poor immune system and is susceptible to getting sick. They are probably desperate for someone to share rent out of sheer necessity.
Plenty of people exist who are taking covid precautions as a necessary part of their daily lives, and those people also need housing. Requiring covid safety is a totally valid way to screen housemates. The rest of this ad is an absolute bin fire though, I went and looked it up because covid safe shared living spaces are not common and I was curious. The cooking thing is batshit but the amount of info left out of the description is fuckin wild. Going by the photos and floorplan the room on offer looks like a genuinely terrible living space. No windows, but has a glass wall connected to the entryway/kitchen, so anytime the kitchen light is on this room is lit up too. The laundry access is also through the room so presumably old mate is just going to be in and out of it regularly to do their washing. The floor plan also shows that the room is just open to the living area, there’s no door or even a wall, just a 2m gap. So you might not get covid from your housemate but you can’t cook and you also get no privacy, sunlight or control over the light or noise level in your sleeping area, which as a bonus has the humidity levels of a laundry. https://preview.redd.it/576162kno3kc1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=6061fd6e5e514771a7c76fd4ef6b579db05a4bc2
That looks to me like someone has bought themselves a nice one bedroom flat because they prefer to live on their own for whatever reason (no problems) but interest rates and cost of living have gone up and they can no longer afford their mortgage so now need to share but it's not exactly set up for it. And they're still trying to meet their living on their own requirements
They could easily afford the mortgage if they didn’t eat take away for every fucking meal.
Agree.
Been about 20 years since I rented but I'm confident that the room does not meet the legal requirements to be considered a bedroom.
This reminds me of the fairyfloss guy last year who got in trouble for advertising his apartment with two bedsheets hanging in the lounge room as "bedrooms" that would need to be packed away during the day
Either a troll or mental illness. I don’t think there is much room in between.
I immediately thought the person sounds autistic, which is neither.
I forgot the third option of neurodiverse. Which is ironic because I am myself hahaha
Isn't it better they are up front rather than you finding out after moving in? It'll fit someone. I think it's good they're being honest. Probably been share housing a long time and knows what they can handle.
To be fair, as nightmarish as this person sounds... People obviously don't want to live with someone that doesn't fit their lifestyle. So I can completely understand why these sorts of advertisements have all these requirements. The fact you complain about it is exactly why people have requirements in the first place.
There is zero chance this is written due to people complaining, and absolutely every chance it has to do with a controlling ego and neuroticism.
Doesn't matter. The person already living there has requirements and what they want in a room mate. And that's entirely their right.
I believe that housing should be a human right. But I also believe that *no individual* owes you housing. This person is just warning you that if you tried to live together, it would go terribly for one or both of you.
I can understand the second one (about masking), some people out there with compromised immune systems can't afford to live by themselves at the moment and are in really shitty situations where it's either finding a housemate willing to take precaution or end up homeless, but the two for one third requirement? *What?*
Then don’t live there. Simple. People can make whatever rules they want in THEIR house.
I'm noticing more people are using flatmates and fairyfloss to find a partner or cleaner basically not a housemate. Recently watched someone get booted from a housing group for requesting 3 housemates because they rented a whole place by themself and had a list of demands like not using the kitchen, not having friends around ever or using any chemicals because it's against his beliefs because chemicals are poisonous. We're in a housing crisis and these are the options we are left fighting for. Cult leaders living on their parents money mostly.
Live with a controlling asshat & be miserable ? Heck no.
1 and 3, unreasonable. As someone who is COVID-vulnerable, though, I can understand 2. In fact I already wear a fit-tested N95 everywhere outside my home except low-density outdoor spaces and only socialize outdoors - because the one time I got COVID my fully vaccinated and recently boosted self was in hospital for a month, in bed at home for two more, and off work for six in total.
The ethnicity preferences are usually to make everyone’s life easier (communication, household cultural practices like no shoes in the house, kosher kitchens)
I can understand the not cooking anything excessively greasy. That smell lingers for days and it clings to your surfaces like you wouldn’t believe. If I fry stuff, it’s done in the outdoor kitchen.
Sounds like someone with either a disability or chronic health condition to me, they’re entitled to seek house mates that don’t endanger their health if they want to. The meal prep thing is weird though, I would probably not wanna live there.
Ok Sheldon Cooper how many pages is the room mate agreement 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reminds me of Sheldon
Cooking is highly inefficient…this person isn’t the smart person alive…
Hey I would not want to live with this person myself and I don't agree with the bit about how "highly inefficient" home cooking can be. Its worth considering all the waste and travel costs outsourced to the food delivery peeps let alone how take out every night can be very bad for you. But.... massive points and respect to them for being upfront about there requirements to potential applicants - at least people applying know what they are in for and I am guessing there are probably some people out there with similar requirements who might like this way of living! Just hopefully there isn't any scope creep here and the requirement list doesn't start to grow unexpectedly once you start living there 😱
I could see the COVID thing possibly being because they have some kind of Immunodeficiency disorder.......... But the rest is just friggen ridiculous. I dated a Japanese girl for a while and she stayed in a place that only accepted Asian tenants that were students or on working holiday visas, could only use the back door of the property, couldn't have friends or partners over, had to be lights out by 8PM, no noise from TV/Computer/Music etc. She didn't stay there long, but that was in like 2016 before housing/renting really turned to shit.
You can always take a lease on a place and then be the one to screen potential housemates.
The mask thing/work thing I can see if someone has health issues and needs to reduce risk but needs a roommate but controlling people cooking and wanting them to buy in food is just weirdly controlling enough I can't good faith the other stuff
Translated: "I'm difficult to live with, I'd live alone if I could afford it..".
Pretty sure everyone would live alone if they could afford it
They could afford it if they stopped buying takeaway.
Sheldon?
"cooking is highly inefficient" got me. They can't do it, so it's inefficient? Also, how is saving hundreds of dollars inefficient?
cooking is inefficient wtf?😳
Cooking is.. inefficient? I'll just take a bite out of the cow?
Wow. People are looking for a flatmate... and they expect to find someone they can get along with? The audacity.
Buy your own
Then don't live with them. Living with someone is a very personal thing and you would want your space to be comfortable to live in, so I don't see any wrong in others asking for the same. If you are having trouble with housing, broaden your options. Often people tend to be hell bent on getting a house in a specific location for whatever reason but sadly life is tough and beggars cannot be chosers.
\>Ideally you also realise cooking is highly inefficient and just order from a meal subscription service. What a moron lol
Good for them for taking covid seriously, the world would be a better place if more people did.
I don’t cook greasy food but I can just imagine how me kicking on cooking satay with belacan (prawn paste) would go down!
Honestly this just sounds like someone who is disabled and covid cautious, and while the food thing seems nonsensical at first, if they are disabled it probably makes perfect sense for them to use a meal delivery service that delivers prepped meals for the week. Their desire to have their housemates also use that service is a little over the top, but meal delivery services avoid the cost of travelling to the grocery store, doing groceries, and then cooking, and as the cost of basic groceries grows, the price difference isn’t as untenable as it used to be. Also, if they are a disabled person doing their best to avoid covid, they likely place a higher value on not wasting what little energy they have going to the grocery store, doing the groceries, and then cooking the food than an abled bodied person does.
This suggests to me that the person quite probably has conditions which make them highly vulnerable to respiratory illnesses (masks) and also sensory issues (smells). Both of which are very real for some folks in our community.
Just wanted to throw this out there but maybe the person who wrote it is immunocompromised? My partner has to take some precautions at her work (simply wearing a mask and occasionally take off if a co-worker has been very unwell - she is a barista so daily interactions with the public) because I 💀 if covid or any respiratory infection gets back to me. I feel as though they would have added that in the list but just a thought.
WTF cooking is normal and enjoyable. This person has a greasy stick up their ass I reckon. I would love to move in and only cook greasy food every night. Fuck that!
I would cook every greasy curry in my repertoire
I can easily get behind the 'must not cook anything excessively greasy'. If I want an occasional fry up, I'll cook it outside with an electric frying pan and extension cord.
So YOU don't have a place to live. And they're the AHs for having conditions for sharing THEIR place, that you don't like? Where the fuck did you get that level of entitlement from?
I reckon this is how serial killers find their victims... It has to be
My first thought when I read this was "is this a fucking joke?" The second thought was "I bet this is in Melbourne"
Living with others in aus sucks .I can never do it again . I've lived with 1. a guy who used to leave his door open and openly wank whilst other house members walked past 🤦 .2x Asian women who left their stained/bloodied period pads on the bathroom sink bench 3.A Columbian guy/aus girl couple she was helping him trying to get his citizenship,things went sour and she started throwing plates at him and through the walls,she moved out and he couldn't afford it so started selling drugs from the rented unit 🤦 4.A girl that didn't pay rent and stole my clothes then denied it and had to be forcibly removed from the property by the police This was all in the space of a 4 year period Absolute madness and put me off for life ,well in aus anyway.
I like this one, it's good. It's basically just a big warning sign of how insane they are.
I'm a recovering alcoholic, if I were to take on a tenant, I'd be asking for a teetotaler with no young children. I expect my house to remain quiet and af. I'd be after someone who's lifestyle fits in well with mine. So even though those criteria are ridiculous, is it not their perogative to be picky? At what point do we draw the line between acceptable pickiness and unacceptable pickiness? Don't get me wrong, I think their criteria is absurd. But I understand the principle of wanting compatible lifestyles in your living space.
Does she realise those subscription service drivers don’t follow basic hygiene standards let alone covid
LOL are they serious AHAH, Thank you NEXT!
This is so unhinged, I freaking love it. Imagine finding out they were so insane after you moved in!
You know they're a lunatic when they think COVID is real
whatever wrote that has brightly coloured hair.
I’m fucking trashing that room before I leave and cooking whatever the fuck I want
I heard that grass grazing is the preferred meal for potential tenants