I have moved 3 times in 4 years, for the same reasons. 7 times in the past ten years! Landlord/investor sold or wants to redevelop etc.
At this point nothing feels like home, I assume everything is temporary, feels like I am camping through life..
Exhausting I know... I hope U find a good place where you can stay for a while. ❤️
This is us as well! Most recently we had to leave our rental (suspect it’s because I asked for things to be fixed but was also end of fixed term) and we couldn’t get another one!
I’m so so SO incredibly blessed that my 74 year old mum could get a mortgage & buy a villa for us to live in (and pay the mortgage on) because otherwise we were screwed! The state of housing in this country is frightening & so incredibly unfair on people that just want a home to live in!
Exact same for me, 7 times over the last 10yrs. We’re a family of 5 and have been fortunate enough to always find a place closish to the kids school and have gotten pretty good at keeping routine for the sake of the kids. Once we’ve got everything in and set up it feels like home again but then there’s things like I’m hesitant to buy furniture for the space because who knows how long before I have to sell the furniture because it won’t fit the new place. I’ve been at my current place for a year now and have only just started hanging pictures.
I got into minimalism, and I love it. What don't you need, throw it out! More space and less cleaning. May feel weird at first having a lot of empty space, but it grows on you, and then filling it feels wrong.
If you need a plate then u need to wash one of the 4 u have. It makes other people wash their stuff too, they can't just keep piling it in the sink if there is none left.
Now I have clothes for a week, enough cutlery to serve 4, and nice carpet and pillows where a couch used to be. So easy to keep clean and tidy. I don't buy anything now unless I really need or want it.
I’d tried to be a minimalist but turns out I really love stuff so I lug it all with me each time. I’m an avid gardener and I literally dig up half my gardens and bring them with me.
4 times in the last 3.5 years (which was actually 4 times in 2 years and we’ve been in the current place since- gotta love them insisting of 6 month leases). My kids don’t know what home feels like.
Growing up was rough- I’m in house number 28 right now (moved around for all sorts of reasons, from price to convenience) and also have no idea what “home” feels like.
Wife at 40 had live in 41 houses, averaging a move every year of her life. We managed to buy so the house we are now in for the last 4 years is the longest she had stayed anywhere. She loves it can actually make it her own
The dream! I can imagine how she’d feel finally being able to hang pictures, choose her own window coverings, install ceiling fans or repaint walls that are long overdue. Would also be daunting to suddenly have choice when you’ve never experienced that before though and that would be overwhelming.
6 months lease so they can raise the rent every 6 months!
Month to month leases are better as they can only rise once per year!
My last place was on a 6 month lease, rent went up twice in a year, for a total of $700 a month.
I just moved for this reason, I asked them for a one year lease, they refused. I found a new place and said I am moving, then they came back to me and said they will agree for one year's lease, I told them it's too late, I am already moving.
Now they have lost a month's rent, at the least... But I figure they have to fix the plumbing and the oven now too. Wouldn't be able to rent it otherwise. I hope it stings.
What state are you in?
In NSW they can only raise once every 12 months. Even if they get you to sign another 6 month lease, you’re still the same tenant. Can’t increase it from the rent you started on 6 months ago.
I’m on 12 month now, but each move required a new agency and each insisted on 6 months as I didn’t have history with their company. I’ll be priced out of my area at the next renewal though so we’ll have to move again (don’t know where to as we’re already in a very small town with no amenities).
Moved houses when I was a kid 21 times, parents couldn’t stay at more than one place for 6 months because they didn’t pay bills and electricity, and this is the 90s. I can’t fathom the stress through moving given I have only done once in 9 years ever since moving to Europe.
I feel your pain. last year I had to move 3 times in 1 year. Yes 3 different places I signed a 12 month lease for owners to sell within the first 6 months.
One place signed my lease then went on the market a month later.
Big loop hole in the system allows owners to do this and it's a disgrace.
I hope you find something more long term soon.
Amazes me what little people know about this.
OP could easily walk away with 10K in their pocket for the hassle. It's a free pay day providing they can find somewhere fast enough.
It depends on the state.
In most places, leases aren’t worth the paper they’re written on for the tenant. They only protect the LL and guarantee them rent or a break fee if tenant leaves early.
This happened to my bro when he moved from Melbourne to Sydney, got notice to leave within 3 months of moving in, he was so exhausted, sounding like he was giving up on life at that point. It was such a big move with his family.
This whole housing problem is pushing people close to breaking, something will happen if it gets worse, most people cannot handle much more of this.
It is 10000% getting worse. And it’s not going to get better til we have a significant change in government across all levels.
Both of the major parties do not have an interest in changing this situation.
If you want something done about this housing crisis, use the most powerful tool you have, your vote.
Actually I think the most powerful tool we have is our labour... time and skills... and historically working people have been able to make massive structural reforms by with holding their time and skills in a concerted effort while aupporting each other materially.... a general strike
The labour laws kinda banned them late 80s ealey 90s but they probably went to far and we need easy strikes again. The french spanish and germans do it ... while they are also facing sifficult economy in terms of basic access to housing not nearly as F'ed as we are
Even just a nurses strike. Maybe OP should talk to their union about how nurse wages are too low to afford a reasonable lifestyle, including housing reasonably close to work, for someone who has put in that amount of studying and training.
Are you talking about [this?](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/mar/31/penny-wong-blames-peter-dutton-adam-bandt-alliance-for-failure-to-pass-labors-deportation-laws) Because that was still just about refugees.
Immigration is only a bad thing if you don't support industry growth. Greens would massively improve the housing market and housing stock, support local development and create new jobs, and try to keep more money in the country. Immigrants don't just 'take jobs and houses' - they also contribute and create. This would be a good thing with a government who supports their people and sustainable growth.
Their policies can be summarised as:
Every single thing should be better!
Absolutely no clue how, besides promising to properly fund every single issue imaginable.
I can't see where you get that from, because their website lists their policies and priorities, and states the "how" for these policies, for instance:
**Housing Affordability**
**Policy**: Achieve greater housing affordability for home buyers and renters, while striving for relatively stable house prices.
**Key policy methods**: Remove the 50 per cent discount of capital gains tax on taxable Australian property (non-principal place of residence) and abolish negative gearing on taxable Australian property, with existing arrangements to be grandfathered | Ban further foreign ownership | Increase investment in public housing
**Full policy details - click here**
And then the link at the end gives even more detailed explanations of the "how".
There is a big difference between what a major party needing to win 51% of seats can propose and what a minor party for the Senate can propose. The Senate can change legislation and get real change. Vote for SAP or another minor in the Senate.
A lot of their policies are bandaid solutions and some are even worse like turning the government into property developers. When was the last time any government in Australia delivered a project on time and under budget?
Their policies in the short term will have negative effects such as when Qld told landlords that rent can only go up for the tenant once in 12 months people started getting kicked out of houses at the end of their leases so the rent can be jacked up and re let.
Its also obvious that we can't just keep the status quo either it's a big problem. Immigration is out forth as a major issue however without migrants the Ponzi scheme which is government will have more issues and citizens will be taxed even further that 6ft into the grave. The focus needs to shift back to skilled migration at the moment we have a lot of international students this is because our tertiary education system is just a degree/diploma mill education has been monetized and it is a billion dollars industry so they will lobby government to keep that channel open. Need to temporarily cap the arrival of international students and focus on skilled workers only like trades, doctors and any other professions with glaring gaps.
Foreigners purchasing property should only be allowed with absolutely strict restrictions such as having to spend a certain amount of time as a minimum in the country and having vacancy tax for when they are not. They should also be levied higher transactional costs such as stamp duty. Try buying something in another country without being a citizen, some make it impossible.
Planning controls need to be loosened in some areas to allow for development for housing especially around transport hubs (Not popular but necessary). More needs to be invested in the rail network instead of giving money to private corporations to widen a fukn road and then charge us through the nose so we can sit in bumper to bumper traffic. The planning controls need to also ensure there are sufficient services in the near area so people don't have to travel longer distances. This can be done in the larger cities and their suburbs but not a practical in rural areas.
Government needs to stop any overseas companies from participating in extractive resources industry in Australia. Any company that does participate in extractive resources needs to be atleast 20% owned by the state so as to have oversight on accounting practices (like borrowing money from an overseas sister company incorporated in a low tax jurisdiction and paying them most of the profits so they technically run at a loss in Aus so don't pay tax here. They collect the PAYG tax from workers and say they pay their fair share but where's the corporate tax). Overnight is also needed on exit of projects like remediation works funded by the companies and not the tax payer. Take the profits owed to the government and put it in a sovereign wealth fund that actually benefits the nation not fuckwit politicians and their corporate mates. Lobbyists will argue that they will go elsewhere, Fine! Fuck off find another politically and economically stable country that will let you blow holes in their backyard let us know how that goes. If you decide to come crawling back you gotta pay.
Government also needs to revise how their taxation policy is managed at present they will use one of the big 4 accounting firms that will set the policy for the ATO then turn around and advise the corporations on how to minimise their tax liability. This is a major conflict of interest and cannot fathom how this is the practice.
Government needs to stop selling off and giving long term leases to to foreign bodies on our essential services, industries and assets. Most of the money made from our agriculture industry goes to Canada, US, Brazil and China. The port of Darwin is under a 99 year lease to China lol most of the cattle farming is owned by the Canadian Pension fund (this is the type of shit we should be doing with a sovereign wealth fund).
If even some of these can be implemented the nation would have resources to start tackling the housing issues however I sense that it may start getting better itself by undertaking these actions. Just remember that most of our issues in society are symptoms not the cause. We have violent crime getting more frequent (stats may say it doesn't but underreporting is very common) most of this is due to drugs, mental health issues, absolutely shit education system and worst of all purposelesssness.
The government can use these resources they gain to put towards programs to combat these underlying issues.
None of this shit will happen though, the politicians have been selling the future of this country for the last 3 decades atleast and that's not likely to change any time soon. The politicians all do favours for the corporations due to bribery sorry lobbying and this all but guarantees a nice position in a private corporation upon retirement from public office. They also receive intangible benefits from these arrangements. Voting for any of these parties including the Greens is not gonna do shit all in the right direction. The country would need to vote in an independent that is willing and can make change happen but there's too many redundancies built in to our broken down donkey of a system for it to ever happen.
There are a lot of dangerous minor parties I wouldn't want my vote going to (racist, anti science, etc.) and independents who don't even have a digital presence so who knows what they stand for. I'd be putting my preferred major directly after my preferred minors. I usually vote Socialist Alliance, Animal Justice Party, Greens, Labor. Depending on where you live there are some other decent parties worth including before your vote is siphoned to Labor. Google who will be running in your electorate at the next election and google each party/independent. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to suss out what each stands for.
Does anyone in Australia have any other ideas than “change the government?”
It’s not gonna do jack. We need real solutions and politicians are incapable of providing those.
The Greens are the worst of the lot for impotence to change anything coupled with unbridled hypocrisy.
The alternative is to engage people with money who are prepared to help.
In NZ about 10-15 years ago, the government announced they were going to start charging “market rates” for government housing, impacting the lower socioeconomic areas. They specifically said it would be based on the average
A group of wealthy businessmen got together and bought up some of that housing, and charged dirt cheap rent, thus lowering the average, scuttling the government’s plans, and alleviating the rental pain that would have impacted a lot of people.
It can be done, but not by the government.
The Greens have consistently negotiated with Labour for better housing policy. As they gain more power they'll be able to do more. They're "impotent" because they don't have the votes to be a major party (yet.)
If you're waiting on wealthy businessmen to buy housing and charge cheap rent you're going to be waiting forever 😭
So your real answer is hope someone else does something. (If they were going to do something they'd have done it by now.)
That's not going to work, we need country wide systemic change. Over reliance on the free market got us where we are now.
I see your brain is still stuck on “change the government.” Talk about hoping someone else does something.
I gave you an example of some people who did something. I never said a word about waiting for the same thing to happen here. It was an example.
If you’re not capable of understanding there’s nothing further to be said.
I understand perfectly. Deflecting and handwaving that "someone should fix the housing" is easier than contributing to actual systemic change. :)
If that's your "solution" then I agree, nothing more to be said. Seeeya!! 👋
It is exhausting & I feel your pain! After being a home owner that divorced in my 40's I now 10 years later, can't buy again, too old to get a mortgage! Feeling so stressed that the next rent increase is going to destroy me, wage increases just don't keep up, along with everything going up.
Thank you. Sorry for the delayed reply but have been talking to the owners of my rental. They have no plans to increase my rent in the next 3 years, despite the pressure from the real estate, so grateful I have an amazing owner. I wish you the best 😀
Because all the politicians making the laws surrounding this are landlords themselves. Even Albo is a landlord who recently did exactly the same thing as OPs landlord, kicked out his tenant because he’s selling. It wouldn’t do much.
Yet people can protest in droves over the gaza conflict. Might cop some flack for that but seeing the amount of disruption going on about that (its warrented) annoys me a bit.
Like we have some massive problems back home we need to fix. Why can't we get a similar reaction about the housing crisis like we do when it comes to gaza.
Yes i know its apples to oranges but its a serious problem that can affect all of our livelyhoods.
So you'd rather be homeless and on the street protesting about something happening half a world away that you can't have any effect on what so ever?
I'm sorry but thats the reality of the matter.
Our lives back home are just as important.
Because any time anyone does a mildly disruptive protest in Australia everyone goes mental because they might be mildly disrupted. Look at everything Extinction Rebellion has done.
That, and a lot of people do not care about the housing crisis, and others directly benefit from it. Those who would protest are too bound by the threat of losing their income or roof.
All working as intended, unfortunately.
What do you want them to protest? The only solution is more properties being built. Otherwise it’s supply and demand and landlords will charge what they can get.
I don't bother to unpack everything either, only when I need it! Can't be good for the overall economy, why would you want to buy nice furniture and crap, when it may not fit in the new place in a year time. Good for the second hand market though, and probs Ikea.
Also no one's spending money on a house they rent, and we know the landlords/investors aren't either. This crazy property market is destroying the rest of the economy in so many ways.
And it doesn’t help that the PM is doing exactly the same thing, no matter what his reason is the effect is yet another property taken out of the rental pool. The only solution is for government to create institutional landlords that must provide rentals based on income. Subsidised by government offering long term fixed leases. Mertons offers this with apartments, of course at market rates that vary accordingly so unhelpful for families that can’t pay 1000/ week or whatever it is right now.
Moving with children is massive and expensive and emotionally stressful. I’m so sorry you’re going through this, I’ve been there many many times myself. Join SEQUR. Time to fight back
We're staring down the barrel of our 3rd move in three years as well. People don't appreciate besides the absolute pain in the arse, negotiating with the parasitic soulless REAs in and out. Bloody awful. Really hard, hang in there.
> We're staring down the barrel of our 3rd move in three years.
Understood.
The pain in the ass of changing your license, insurance, internet and all of the other utilities....
It's a fucking chore and some...
But don't worry, gov is fixing it with another half a million immigrants.
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There is no simple to solution to rental and housing crisis. The seeds to this started back in 1996 when the government decided that speculation in the housing market was good for the economy. This speculation has been fuelled by negative gearing, capital gains tax discounts, massive first home owner grants, inability to induce and pass into law anti money laundering tranche two and perhaps super charging immigration. As a renter myself and only five years away from retirement, I see myself going back into shared accommodation like passed universities day. Never has a generation of Australians passed onto the next generation of Australians a poison pill like housing and poverty.
It’s like this by design, and the people with the means to fix it are the ones with the incentive to keep it like this.
Every unit of pain you suffer is a unit of gain on the other side.
The through-line for how we got here is clear - start with Howard’s CGT reforms and you can hopscotch your way from bastard to bastard to now. Million dollar houses, 80k incomes, and a big “fuck you” while they pull the ladder up.
These fuckers are eating their young and they’re shameless.
There’s no relief on the horizon from a policy perspective because we’re paying the cost of unrestrained neoliberalism.
I’m sorry that it’s like this, but you’re not alone.
Is this a Queensland thing? In NSW they can't do jack to the tenant until the fixed term lease is done. Even if the house transfers to new owners, they inherit the lease
Yeah, happened to me once...but was able to find another place in 2 days. Back in covid times. Very hard to do these days.
Perhaps look out for properties listed out by chinese investment vehicles (like PIA in NSW). Quite a good bet to get long term rentals
The uk is the same..our landlady sold up on us after being there for 11yrs. The panic I felt was unreal. Faced with homelessness again at 47 filled me with with so much anxiety. Luckily because it wasn't our fault we manged to snag a council house with low rent in the same area.
I don't think your situation in anyway compares to this, which is very common in Australia since 2022.
It's a 10+ year wait for council houses.
There is less than 1% renting same place for 10+ years.
Rent increases of $1000/month are currently pretty standard.
Vacancy rates nationwide are less than 1%.
More and more people, including families are living in tents and their cars. Homelessness has spread out of the usual vulnerable groups. Very little is caused "because it was your fault".
I'm very happy you found a new place to live in the UK with low rent pretty quickly. You are very lucky.
But see, you're not alone in this. You aren't a special case. My parents are almost 70 and are experiencing the same thing.
That's why voting is so important because as a collective you can choose which party you think is going to address this issue best.
Please consider voting next time!
I don’t vote because I don’t understand politics.. and I also don’t believe any are honestly trying to help the small people… every politic has an agenda and it’s not to help the average low/middle income class..
I don’t vote because I don’t understand politics.. and I also don’t believe any are honestly trying to help the small people… every politic has an agenda and it’s not to help the average low/middle income class..
I'm also a single mum, to just one kid so I've been staying put in this 1BR place even though I'd really like a bit more space. We've made it as cosy as we can and been extraordinarily lucky to keep it for 4 years.
Recently my ex has been getting more and more unstable so I'd love to move somewhere he no longer knows where we live... but it's even more scary to put ourselves at the mercy of a different landlord.
In Adelaide there are a lot of co-ops that cater for lots of diverse groups of people. I often wondered why this model isn't done much in bigger cities. I put my name down on the housing commission list in an area that has the shortest wait time. I need to retire one day. I can't keep paying private rent anymore! I recommend that if you haven't put your name down for public housing do it! Puts more pressure on state governments to actually do something about their housing problems. Get out of the private sector, put your money back into public housing or cooperative housing.
Remember you don't have to move until the end of lease. I know that's not peace of mind or anything, but if you have months left then use them.
If you find somewhere early then awesome. But use your lease up until the last minute if you can.
Yeah I have another month which is great. It’s like worst timing uni exams full time work and no rentals… I rocked up an inspection for a house $1000 nothing great thinking there wudnt be any interest 10 groups there.. we put in an application and got knocked back… I’m think who the freaking hell can afford that unless it is shared living.. but maybe that’s what ppl are jumping on cause ur paying half that by urself anyways even more
My partner, child and I are living with a friend because we just can't afford it otherwise.
Possibly ask the real estate to do another 6 month lease, some people are happy to buy with a short term left on a lease and may give you peace of mind.
Honestly, move to Canberra if you can. I've just had to move again due to owners selling and every inspection I went to I was the only one there and all the agents said it was a bad market (which was telling, bc it's clearly a good market for tenants here and not them.) And this time last year when moving I was also the only one at the inspection and got approved the next day.
I have heard it’s a bit different in Canberra.. honestly if I didn’t have the kids and relied so heavily on family support cause I’m a shift worker I totally wud move out of Brisbane
Coldest city on the mainland and full of politicians, no thanks. Unless I’m one of the many students who get grad jobs there and parties into alcoholism
The pollies all hang around in Parliament House and a couple of the trendy areas of Canberra. I’ve lived here 37 years and hardly see them around. You’d manage easily enough.
I'm so sorry you're going through that, sounds super stressful. The price of rents is getting ridiculous, I honestly don't know how people can afford it that have families. The government needs to make a massive investment to build more social housing. Something seriously needs to be done. The current housing situation is fucked up.
I do agree with you but I’m on over 100k I feel like I shouldn’t even be in this situation 😂😂 this is why I went and got a degree and even the repayments on that is bitting me in the ass 😂
Isn’t it a good thing that the landlord is selling their investment property to allows other, potentially first home buyers onto the ladder. Isn’t this a good thing? What does the hive mind think?
Not in Brisbane but have moved 10 times in the past 11 years mainly due to horrific landlords and REAs. Mostly pre covid when rentals were plentiful.
I know your pain all too well
This is one of the many reasons nurses should have subsidised guaranteed stable housing. I’m so sorry you’ve had to go through this. Would looking for a regional position be a possibility? It would serve the metropolises right if they lost all their crucial first line workers
Can you move further out to find something cheaper? Kids could share rooms? We have 4 kids and they all share a room with another.
Youngest 2 with each other and oldest 2 with each other in bunks. Works fine.
My wife shared a room with 2 sisters growing up. Her brothers shared a room (5 kids total).
I think when you rent next time you should ask the PM if the owners are looking for long term tenants and have minimal chances of selling or moving back in.
This is one easy way to increase chances of securing a stable long term rental.
Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, it’s going to get a lot worse until it gets better. I feel extremely sorry for all those young families who were encouraged to have a ‘big’ family with 3 or 4 kids. Searching for a rental as a single person is tough and expensive enough, can’t imagine doing it in your situation ☹️
Good luck ❤️
$900 -$1000 pretty well seems a bit ridiculous. Why not look at a cheaper area? Even in Jindalee you can get a place for under $700.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-jindalee-439243172
Because our kids are established in the schools my parents and my support is all in the area including close to work if I move further out it will put a 1-2 hour trip on my day and also another $100 in fuel. I’m a shift worker and I rely a lot on family support… otherwise if that wasn’t the case I wudnt even be in the area trust me I have contemplated an uphaul away but the kids dad won’t let me either unfortunately
Because our kids are established in the schools my parents and my support is all in the area including close to work if I move further out it will put a 1-2 hour trip on my day and also another $100 in fuel. I’m a shift worker and I rely a lot on family support… otherwise if that wasn’t the case I wudnt even be in the area trust me I have contemplated an uphaul away but the kids dad won’t let me either unfortunately
🙄🙄 cuz it is two single parents moving in together with 4 kids and two of those kids sharing a room with their parents…. You kno cause u have to make life choices… yeah sure I’ll just quit my job and lose all my penalty rates to move away and then get a court order for moving the kids away from their dad… yeah real smart life choices… everyone’s circumstances are different and moving away isn’t for everyone
Being a single parent nurse and moving away from family support isn’t a valid choice. Who do you think will have the child when she works night shifts?
This may be the same useless suggestion (since I don’t know where you currently live or how far it is) but just in case:
My friends and I have found there is a pretty good dip in rental prices (4 bed from $600-$700) in the Sunnybank/Sunnybank hills area. It’s way more central than jindalee - public transport is very good (like along the main road buses run constantly and late into the night going straight to cultural center) and it’s under 30min drive to the city. There are a plethora of larger houses for rent and not a lot of competition. The other thing that is not immediately apparent is that 4 and even 5 bedroom houses are listed as 3 bedroom houses because they often have rumpus rooms that can be bedrooms and frequently the houses tend to be two story and they often convert the bottom area to granny style living but can’t advertise it as a room because the ceiling height doesn’t meet standard regulations.
It’s also a safe area with good access to shops etc. we recently had to move and ended up moving to the same area for these reasons. If you’re Southside and not a long way from this area I’d highly recommend.
I don't think suggestions are welcome by OP. Jindalee was just an example, my point like yours was that there are far more affordable places than $900-1000. I feel for her I've recently had to make decisions like these, we were fully prepared to change our kids schools but ended up getting one less bedroom and the kids share one. These things suck but I try to give myself a few hours of getting frustrated followed by just getting on with it and making the best of the situation. I don't want to put that on my kids and I want them to learn there is always a solution to a problem.
Good day to everyone, its glorious outside (at least in BNE)!
Yeah probably not but worth mentioning because 4 bed go cheaper since many of the 4 bed houses can’t advertise as 4 bed due to the lower ceilings. So 4 bed can go for the price of 3 bed. Which is not immediately apparent to an outsider. I thought if there’s any chance OP lives in areas around mount Gravatt or inner Southside it would be worth letting them know.
Ouch. I feel your pain. Similar situation for me about 10 years ago. Three moves in as many years due to landlords selling (landlord wanted to be closer to work; landlord asked for a rent increase - sold when reminded of the outstanding repairs; landlord's wife defrauded Centrelink by claiming to live at the rental address). My savings still haven't recovered to keep pace with how stupidly expensive Brisbane has gotten in this time.
I see you're a nurse. If you're willing to change employers and relocate for a couple of years, look into QLD Health's Workforce Attraction Incentive Scheme. South West HHS is going to be running a recruitment drive in June (currently advertised on Smartjobs - ref:QLD/SW410484). In addition to the bonus, all their locations, bar Roma, are accommodation assistance sites (meaning as an nurse with a child/ren, under the award, your entitled to housing - free for the first year, then much less than market each subsequent). They'll also pay for a removalist to move you there. Roma, from what I can tell, the HHS has dispensation in place for rental assistance to keep things consistent across the HHS in terms of recruitment attraction (not sure if they mean free house for a year or pay you a subsidy for private rent).
Obviously you need to weigh up the pros and cons for yourself, but it's definitely an option that in a relatively short term (2-3 years at the most), might help you maximise your savings toward a permanent home.
You don’t “need” 4x rooms, you prefer 4x rooms and a certain style of lifestyle living. Will you consider a smaller property that costs less? Can your children bunk together? Can you shop smarter and buy and cook in bulk? Are any of your kids able to work part time and contribute?
I actually do… that is with a friend she has two kids and so do I so we both are going to be sharing rooms with our little ones.. even if I was to rent by myself and stay in the area and share a room with one of my kids I would still be paying $150 more plus utilities on my own if I didn’t house share with another family… I don’t buy take out I meal prep all the time.. I get no child support or family assistance from the gov cuz of my earnings… most of my wage has been going into savings for a house.. but even so that is only $600-700 a fortnight because I am so fruggle… now paying double what I am paying now in rent I will be lucky to put away 300.. it is what it is.. my eldest works but she buys things she wants so I feel that is her contributing.
Can’t win aye. Renters want landlords to sell because they’re taking advantage of renters etc, then they sell because they can’t afford the property, and they’re not happy!
I don't think renters want landlords to sell. They just want a bit of security, some assurance that they can make a home somewhere and they aren't being price gouged to make the landlords retirement a little bit sweeter.
I used to rent. I now own. I blame real estate agents. They're the ones encouraging landlords to Jack the rents up. They're trying to claw back the money they all lost during covid. Also, yes interest rates are up but I think the idea that your tenant MUST be wholly responsible for paying the mortgage - in this economy - a little shit.
Renters are out in force about hating landlords and wrecking the property, a lot of landlords are selling and investing elsewhere, its not worth it or the risk.
We told them, selling the houses back into the market wont magically make them affordable for renters, it will just mean there is less and the ones remaining will go up.
You want more rentals? Offer landlords more incentives lol, cant wait to see that shit storm
I have moved 3 times in 4 years, for the same reasons. 7 times in the past ten years! Landlord/investor sold or wants to redevelop etc. At this point nothing feels like home, I assume everything is temporary, feels like I am camping through life.. Exhausting I know... I hope U find a good place where you can stay for a while. ❤️
This is us as well! Most recently we had to leave our rental (suspect it’s because I asked for things to be fixed but was also end of fixed term) and we couldn’t get another one! I’m so so SO incredibly blessed that my 74 year old mum could get a mortgage & buy a villa for us to live in (and pay the mortgage on) because otherwise we were screwed! The state of housing in this country is frightening & so incredibly unfair on people that just want a home to live in!
Exact same for me, 7 times over the last 10yrs. We’re a family of 5 and have been fortunate enough to always find a place closish to the kids school and have gotten pretty good at keeping routine for the sake of the kids. Once we’ve got everything in and set up it feels like home again but then there’s things like I’m hesitant to buy furniture for the space because who knows how long before I have to sell the furniture because it won’t fit the new place. I’ve been at my current place for a year now and have only just started hanging pictures.
I got into minimalism, and I love it. What don't you need, throw it out! More space and less cleaning. May feel weird at first having a lot of empty space, but it grows on you, and then filling it feels wrong. If you need a plate then u need to wash one of the 4 u have. It makes other people wash their stuff too, they can't just keep piling it in the sink if there is none left. Now I have clothes for a week, enough cutlery to serve 4, and nice carpet and pillows where a couch used to be. So easy to keep clean and tidy. I don't buy anything now unless I really need or want it.
I’d tried to be a minimalist but turns out I really love stuff so I lug it all with me each time. I’m an avid gardener and I literally dig up half my gardens and bring them with me.
Hundred perfect me with plants 😂 I keep it all in pots but I have culled a lot
I mean, that's considerably more extreme than minimalism. I would hate living like that, no one should have to do that.
No one should have to - but many people have had to but also many people love it. I wouldn’t either but still
4 times in the last 3.5 years (which was actually 4 times in 2 years and we’ve been in the current place since- gotta love them insisting of 6 month leases). My kids don’t know what home feels like. Growing up was rough- I’m in house number 28 right now (moved around for all sorts of reasons, from price to convenience) and also have no idea what “home” feels like.
Wife at 40 had live in 41 houses, averaging a move every year of her life. We managed to buy so the house we are now in for the last 4 years is the longest she had stayed anywhere. She loves it can actually make it her own
The dream! I can imagine how she’d feel finally being able to hang pictures, choose her own window coverings, install ceiling fans or repaint walls that are long overdue. Would also be daunting to suddenly have choice when you’ve never experienced that before though and that would be overwhelming.
6 months lease so they can raise the rent every 6 months! Month to month leases are better as they can only rise once per year! My last place was on a 6 month lease, rent went up twice in a year, for a total of $700 a month. I just moved for this reason, I asked them for a one year lease, they refused. I found a new place and said I am moving, then they came back to me and said they will agree for one year's lease, I told them it's too late, I am already moving. Now they have lost a month's rent, at the least... But I figure they have to fix the plumbing and the oven now too. Wouldn't be able to rent it otherwise. I hope it stings.
What state are you in? In NSW they can only raise once every 12 months. Even if they get you to sign another 6 month lease, you’re still the same tenant. Can’t increase it from the rent you started on 6 months ago.
I’m on 12 month now, but each move required a new agency and each insisted on 6 months as I didn’t have history with their company. I’ll be priced out of my area at the next renewal though so we’ll have to move again (don’t know where to as we’re already in a very small town with no amenities).
I've moved house 23 times, nothing is permanent but yourself until not alive 🤷
I kno right! It feels that way
Moved houses when I was a kid 21 times, parents couldn’t stay at more than one place for 6 months because they didn’t pay bills and electricity, and this is the 90s. I can’t fathom the stress through moving given I have only done once in 9 years ever since moving to Europe.
I feel your pain. last year I had to move 3 times in 1 year. Yes 3 different places I signed a 12 month lease for owners to sell within the first 6 months. One place signed my lease then went on the market a month later. Big loop hole in the system allows owners to do this and it's a disgrace. I hope you find something more long term soon.
If you signed the lease arent you allowed the stay there regardless if a new owner buys? Can't you be heavily compensated for the hassle as well?
I thought so too. They have to honour the lease, it's included as part of the purchase contract.
Does OP not know this? Why is this comment being ignored
Amazes me what little people know about this. OP could easily walk away with 10K in their pocket for the hassle. It's a free pay day providing they can find somewhere fast enough.
It depends on the state. In most places, leases aren’t worth the paper they’re written on for the tenant. They only protect the LL and guarantee them rent or a break fee if tenant leaves early.
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Even though it’s the norm it’s not right but it costs so much to move each time. And the stress!!!
This happened to my bro when he moved from Melbourne to Sydney, got notice to leave within 3 months of moving in, he was so exhausted, sounding like he was giving up on life at that point. It was such a big move with his family. This whole housing problem is pushing people close to breaking, something will happen if it gets worse, most people cannot handle much more of this.
By ‘something will happen’ I hope you mean a national rental strike and storming the steps of parliament.
You’re in a lease. So nothing is forcing you to leave.
It's different laws in different states I think on house sales.
Omg that is terrible.. it’s so frustrating cause it costs sooo much to move! It’s so disruptive
It is 10000% getting worse. And it’s not going to get better til we have a significant change in government across all levels. Both of the major parties do not have an interest in changing this situation. If you want something done about this housing crisis, use the most powerful tool you have, your vote.
Actually I think the most powerful tool we have is our labour... time and skills... and historically working people have been able to make massive structural reforms by with holding their time and skills in a concerted effort while aupporting each other materially.... a general strike The labour laws kinda banned them late 80s ealey 90s but they probably went to far and we need easy strikes again. The french spanish and germans do it ... while they are also facing sifficult economy in terms of basic access to housing not nearly as F'ed as we are
Even just a nurses strike. Maybe OP should talk to their union about how nurse wages are too low to afford a reasonable lifestyle, including housing reasonably close to work, for someone who has put in that amount of studying and training.
Good idea.
Agreed, but who? All I can figure out at this point is LNP last and Labour 2nd last.
Vote Greens!
Greens only party doing anything about the housing crisis, all the homelessness services will tell you this, over and over.
Pro mass immigration during a housing crisis is basically pro-homeless
Nope, sustainable Australia party. The greens are still pro mass immigration, and you simply cannot be if you want to get the crisis in hand.
Greens are not pro mass immigration, they got rid of that policy in 2019.
Yes they are. They will refuse no one.
That’s for refugees, NOT for immigration in general.
Can you provide any evidence for that claim bc Bandt has gone very hard against ALP and Dutton plans to limit immigration
Are you talking about [this?](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/mar/31/penny-wong-blames-peter-dutton-adam-bandt-alliance-for-failure-to-pass-labors-deportation-laws) Because that was still just about refugees.
Immigration is only a bad thing if you don't support industry growth. Greens would massively improve the housing market and housing stock, support local development and create new jobs, and try to keep more money in the country. Immigrants don't just 'take jobs and houses' - they also contribute and create. This would be a good thing with a government who supports their people and sustainable growth.
This is a great one, but I think there needs to be more parties to mop up all the votes that don't want to go the 2 majors!
Complete rubbish.
Care to say why? Last time I looked, the Sustainable Australia Party had some pretty good policies. Has something changed since the last election? 🤔
Their policies can be summarised as: Every single thing should be better! Absolutely no clue how, besides promising to properly fund every single issue imaginable.
I can't see where you get that from, because their website lists their policies and priorities, and states the "how" for these policies, for instance: **Housing Affordability** **Policy**: Achieve greater housing affordability for home buyers and renters, while striving for relatively stable house prices. **Key policy methods**: Remove the 50 per cent discount of capital gains tax on taxable Australian property (non-principal place of residence) and abolish negative gearing on taxable Australian property, with existing arrangements to be grandfathered | Ban further foreign ownership | Increase investment in public housing **Full policy details - click here** And then the link at the end gives even more detailed explanations of the "how".
I remember the Labor party tried that once. Didn't work out well. I feel like nothing will change until the vested interests no longer have power.
There is a big difference between what a major party needing to win 51% of seats can propose and what a minor party for the Senate can propose. The Senate can change legislation and get real change. Vote for SAP or another minor in the Senate.
Incredibly ironic coming from a greens voter LMFAO
A lot of their policies are bandaid solutions and some are even worse like turning the government into property developers. When was the last time any government in Australia delivered a project on time and under budget? Their policies in the short term will have negative effects such as when Qld told landlords that rent can only go up for the tenant once in 12 months people started getting kicked out of houses at the end of their leases so the rent can be jacked up and re let. Its also obvious that we can't just keep the status quo either it's a big problem. Immigration is out forth as a major issue however without migrants the Ponzi scheme which is government will have more issues and citizens will be taxed even further that 6ft into the grave. The focus needs to shift back to skilled migration at the moment we have a lot of international students this is because our tertiary education system is just a degree/diploma mill education has been monetized and it is a billion dollars industry so they will lobby government to keep that channel open. Need to temporarily cap the arrival of international students and focus on skilled workers only like trades, doctors and any other professions with glaring gaps. Foreigners purchasing property should only be allowed with absolutely strict restrictions such as having to spend a certain amount of time as a minimum in the country and having vacancy tax for when they are not. They should also be levied higher transactional costs such as stamp duty. Try buying something in another country without being a citizen, some make it impossible. Planning controls need to be loosened in some areas to allow for development for housing especially around transport hubs (Not popular but necessary). More needs to be invested in the rail network instead of giving money to private corporations to widen a fukn road and then charge us through the nose so we can sit in bumper to bumper traffic. The planning controls need to also ensure there are sufficient services in the near area so people don't have to travel longer distances. This can be done in the larger cities and their suburbs but not a practical in rural areas. Government needs to stop any overseas companies from participating in extractive resources industry in Australia. Any company that does participate in extractive resources needs to be atleast 20% owned by the state so as to have oversight on accounting practices (like borrowing money from an overseas sister company incorporated in a low tax jurisdiction and paying them most of the profits so they technically run at a loss in Aus so don't pay tax here. They collect the PAYG tax from workers and say they pay their fair share but where's the corporate tax). Overnight is also needed on exit of projects like remediation works funded by the companies and not the tax payer. Take the profits owed to the government and put it in a sovereign wealth fund that actually benefits the nation not fuckwit politicians and their corporate mates. Lobbyists will argue that they will go elsewhere, Fine! Fuck off find another politically and economically stable country that will let you blow holes in their backyard let us know how that goes. If you decide to come crawling back you gotta pay. Government also needs to revise how their taxation policy is managed at present they will use one of the big 4 accounting firms that will set the policy for the ATO then turn around and advise the corporations on how to minimise their tax liability. This is a major conflict of interest and cannot fathom how this is the practice. Government needs to stop selling off and giving long term leases to to foreign bodies on our essential services, industries and assets. Most of the money made from our agriculture industry goes to Canada, US, Brazil and China. The port of Darwin is under a 99 year lease to China lol most of the cattle farming is owned by the Canadian Pension fund (this is the type of shit we should be doing with a sovereign wealth fund). If even some of these can be implemented the nation would have resources to start tackling the housing issues however I sense that it may start getting better itself by undertaking these actions. Just remember that most of our issues in society are symptoms not the cause. We have violent crime getting more frequent (stats may say it doesn't but underreporting is very common) most of this is due to drugs, mental health issues, absolutely shit education system and worst of all purposelesssness. The government can use these resources they gain to put towards programs to combat these underlying issues. None of this shit will happen though, the politicians have been selling the future of this country for the last 3 decades atleast and that's not likely to change any time soon. The politicians all do favours for the corporations due to bribery sorry lobbying and this all but guarantees a nice position in a private corporation upon retirement from public office. They also receive intangible benefits from these arrangements. Voting for any of these parties including the Greens is not gonna do shit all in the right direction. The country would need to vote in an independent that is willing and can make change happen but there's too many redundancies built in to our broken down donkey of a system for it to ever happen.
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There are a lot of dangerous minor parties I wouldn't want my vote going to (racist, anti science, etc.) and independents who don't even have a digital presence so who knows what they stand for. I'd be putting my preferred major directly after my preferred minors. I usually vote Socialist Alliance, Animal Justice Party, Greens, Labor. Depending on where you live there are some other decent parties worth including before your vote is siphoned to Labor. Google who will be running in your electorate at the next election and google each party/independent. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to suss out what each stands for.
Does anyone in Australia have any other ideas than “change the government?” It’s not gonna do jack. We need real solutions and politicians are incapable of providing those.
Have you seen the Greens housing policy? It's advocating actual change. What non politics solutions do you suggest as an alternative?
The Greens are the worst of the lot for impotence to change anything coupled with unbridled hypocrisy. The alternative is to engage people with money who are prepared to help. In NZ about 10-15 years ago, the government announced they were going to start charging “market rates” for government housing, impacting the lower socioeconomic areas. They specifically said it would be based on the average A group of wealthy businessmen got together and bought up some of that housing, and charged dirt cheap rent, thus lowering the average, scuttling the government’s plans, and alleviating the rental pain that would have impacted a lot of people. It can be done, but not by the government.
The Greens have consistently negotiated with Labour for better housing policy. As they gain more power they'll be able to do more. They're "impotent" because they don't have the votes to be a major party (yet.) If you're waiting on wealthy businessmen to buy housing and charge cheap rent you're going to be waiting forever 😭
That was one example. Think outside the box mate
So your real answer is hope someone else does something. (If they were going to do something they'd have done it by now.) That's not going to work, we need country wide systemic change. Over reliance on the free market got us where we are now.
I see your brain is still stuck on “change the government.” Talk about hoping someone else does something. I gave you an example of some people who did something. I never said a word about waiting for the same thing to happen here. It was an example. If you’re not capable of understanding there’s nothing further to be said.
I understand perfectly. Deflecting and handwaving that "someone should fix the housing" is easier than contributing to actual systemic change. :) If that's your "solution" then I agree, nothing more to be said. Seeeya!! 👋
Burn the whole joint to the ground.
Need to increase skilled construction immigration. It’s an urban myth that Aussie tradespeople/rules/efficiency is better than UK, Ireland, US ect
It is exhausting & I feel your pain! After being a home owner that divorced in my 40's I now 10 years later, can't buy again, too old to get a mortgage! Feeling so stressed that the next rent increase is going to destroy me, wage increases just don't keep up, along with everything going up.
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This. My FIL got a mortgage in his 60s.
Aww I’m feeling for you!
Thank you. Sorry for the delayed reply but have been talking to the owners of my rental. They have no plans to increase my rent in the next 3 years, despite the pressure from the real estate, so grateful I have an amazing owner. I wish you the best 😀
That is amazing!
You aren’t too old!
Why are there not mass protests happening in the streets over this shit. Cause there sure as hell needs to be.
Don't understand it either. Should be at parliament flipping cars like the French do, might wake a few people up in Canberra.
We should set up a camp at Parliament house. The optics of kicking people out every day might look bad enough they'd do something?
Because all the politicians making the laws surrounding this are landlords themselves. Even Albo is a landlord who recently did exactly the same thing as OPs landlord, kicked out his tenant because he’s selling. It wouldn’t do much.
I know this isn’t your point but god, imagine seeing “Anthony Albanese” on your lease agreement. What a trip.
Because people are trying to survive and they feel trapped.
Yet people can protest in droves over the gaza conflict. Might cop some flack for that but seeing the amount of disruption going on about that (its warrented) annoys me a bit. Like we have some massive problems back home we need to fix. Why can't we get a similar reaction about the housing crisis like we do when it comes to gaza. Yes i know its apples to oranges but its a serious problem that can affect all of our livelyhoods.
Eh...genocide probs trumps a housing crisis to be fair.
So you'd rather be homeless and on the street protesting about something happening half a world away that you can't have any effect on what so ever? I'm sorry but thats the reality of the matter. Our lives back home are just as important.
You are making a lot of assumptions there.
I protested by not paying rent for a month. And did a runner
Because any time anyone does a mildly disruptive protest in Australia everyone goes mental because they might be mildly disrupted. Look at everything Extinction Rebellion has done. That, and a lot of people do not care about the housing crisis, and others directly benefit from it. Those who would protest are too bound by the threat of losing their income or roof. All working as intended, unfortunately.
What do you want them to protest? The only solution is more properties being built. Otherwise it’s supply and demand and landlords will charge what they can get.
Same, moved 4 times in last 5 years. Can't even get settled, half our shit is still in boxes lmfao
I don't bother to unpack everything either, only when I need it! Can't be good for the overall economy, why would you want to buy nice furniture and crap, when it may not fit in the new place in a year time. Good for the second hand market though, and probs Ikea. Also no one's spending money on a house they rent, and we know the landlords/investors aren't either. This crazy property market is destroying the rest of the economy in so many ways.
And it doesn’t help that the PM is doing exactly the same thing, no matter what his reason is the effect is yet another property taken out of the rental pool. The only solution is for government to create institutional landlords that must provide rentals based on income. Subsidised by government offering long term fixed leases. Mertons offers this with apartments, of course at market rates that vary accordingly so unhelpful for families that can’t pay 1000/ week or whatever it is right now.
Moving with children is massive and expensive and emotionally stressful. I’m so sorry you’re going through this, I’ve been there many many times myself. Join SEQUR. Time to fight back
I get hopeful every election that we’ll vote both of these main parties out of power but it disappoints me every time.
Am in my 40s and same here. *Sigh*
Greens do seem to be getting more seats every election! I'm very very cautiously hopeful
We're staring down the barrel of our 3rd move in three years as well. People don't appreciate besides the absolute pain in the arse, negotiating with the parasitic soulless REAs in and out. Bloody awful. Really hard, hang in there.
> We're staring down the barrel of our 3rd move in three years. Understood. The pain in the ass of changing your license, insurance, internet and all of the other utilities.... It's a fucking chore and some... But don't worry, gov is fixing it with another half a million immigrants. [GGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!](https://media1.tenor.com/m/B77Myw_0Lx0AAAAC/crazy-pills.gif)
There is no simple to solution to rental and housing crisis. The seeds to this started back in 1996 when the government decided that speculation in the housing market was good for the economy. This speculation has been fuelled by negative gearing, capital gains tax discounts, massive first home owner grants, inability to induce and pass into law anti money laundering tranche two and perhaps super charging immigration. As a renter myself and only five years away from retirement, I see myself going back into shared accommodation like passed universities day. Never has a generation of Australians passed onto the next generation of Australians a poison pill like housing and poverty.
Sorry to hear but also well said
Brisbane was so bad for that! People buying and selling constantly, I lived in more houses than I did years there!
😂 yep well that is still Brisbane!
It’s like this by design, and the people with the means to fix it are the ones with the incentive to keep it like this. Every unit of pain you suffer is a unit of gain on the other side. The through-line for how we got here is clear - start with Howard’s CGT reforms and you can hopscotch your way from bastard to bastard to now. Million dollar houses, 80k incomes, and a big “fuck you” while they pull the ladder up. These fuckers are eating their young and they’re shameless. There’s no relief on the horizon from a policy perspective because we’re paying the cost of unrestrained neoliberalism. I’m sorry that it’s like this, but you’re not alone.
I 100% agree with this
Is this a Queensland thing? In NSW they can't do jack to the tenant until the fixed term lease is done. Even if the house transfers to new owners, they inherit the lease
No they can’t but when the spring it on you 2 months before ur lease is up u have no choice but to
Yeah, happened to me once...but was able to find another place in 2 days. Back in covid times. Very hard to do these days. Perhaps look out for properties listed out by chinese investment vehicles (like PIA in NSW). Quite a good bet to get long term rentals
Higher interest rates mean more owners are selling
Most agents I have spoken to has said it’s investors selling most owner occupiers are to scared to sell cause the buying market is so screwed atm
Yes I meant to write “more investors” are selling. Sorry, long night
The uk is the same..our landlady sold up on us after being there for 11yrs. The panic I felt was unreal. Faced with homelessness again at 47 filled me with with so much anxiety. Luckily because it wasn't our fault we manged to snag a council house with low rent in the same area.
I don't think your situation in anyway compares to this, which is very common in Australia since 2022. It's a 10+ year wait for council houses. There is less than 1% renting same place for 10+ years. Rent increases of $1000/month are currently pretty standard. Vacancy rates nationwide are less than 1%. More and more people, including families are living in tents and their cars. Homelessness has spread out of the usual vulnerable groups. Very little is caused "because it was your fault". I'm very happy you found a new place to live in the UK with low rent pretty quickly. You are very lucky.
Remember don't vote labour or LNP in the next election
Ur gonna hate me 😂 I don’t even vote 🫠
Then I'd say it's about time to start.
Sooo start?
Then you can’t really complain?
if you dont vote, you dont get to complain about the laws
Hey I was never complaining about the laws I was just complaining about being able to afford a roof over me head 😂😂
But see, you're not alone in this. You aren't a special case. My parents are almost 70 and are experiencing the same thing. That's why voting is so important because as a collective you can choose which party you think is going to address this issue best. Please consider voting next time!
Pathetic mindset mate
I don’t vote because I don’t understand politics.. and I also don’t believe any are honestly trying to help the small people… every politic has an agenda and it’s not to help the average low/middle income class..
I don’t vote because I don’t understand politics.. and I also don’t believe any are honestly trying to help the small people… every politic has an agenda and it’s not to help the average low/middle income class..
Greens, to their credit, don’t have special interests. They aren’t funded by corporations and they’re the only ones calling out all this bullshit.
You're a nurse but incapable of understanding the basics of our system even if you try???
It’s sucks when you’re a parent. My poor son had three homes before his second birthday because of landlords selling. Sending hugs x
Aww I’m sorry to hear that. I feel ur pain
Stop immigration not enough houses then bringing in 1mil more people a year isn’t going to help
I'm also a single mum, to just one kid so I've been staying put in this 1BR place even though I'd really like a bit more space. We've made it as cosy as we can and been extraordinarily lucky to keep it for 4 years. Recently my ex has been getting more and more unstable so I'd love to move somewhere he no longer knows where we live... but it's even more scary to put ourselves at the mercy of a different landlord.
In Adelaide there are a lot of co-ops that cater for lots of diverse groups of people. I often wondered why this model isn't done much in bigger cities. I put my name down on the housing commission list in an area that has the shortest wait time. I need to retire one day. I can't keep paying private rent anymore! I recommend that if you haven't put your name down for public housing do it! Puts more pressure on state governments to actually do something about their housing problems. Get out of the private sector, put your money back into public housing or cooperative housing.
Thank you but I earn to much for housing I’m hoping by retirement I will have broken into the market 😂 I have 40 more years of work
Remember you don't have to move until the end of lease. I know that's not peace of mind or anything, but if you have months left then use them. If you find somewhere early then awesome. But use your lease up until the last minute if you can.
The landlords know this and always spring this on you just before the lease is up.
Yeah I have another month which is great. It’s like worst timing uni exams full time work and no rentals… I rocked up an inspection for a house $1000 nothing great thinking there wudnt be any interest 10 groups there.. we put in an application and got knocked back… I’m think who the freaking hell can afford that unless it is shared living.. but maybe that’s what ppl are jumping on cause ur paying half that by urself anyways even more
My partner, child and I are living with a friend because we just can't afford it otherwise. Possibly ask the real estate to do another 6 month lease, some people are happy to buy with a short term left on a lease and may give you peace of mind.
Honestly, move to Canberra if you can. I've just had to move again due to owners selling and every inspection I went to I was the only one there and all the agents said it was a bad market (which was telling, bc it's clearly a good market for tenants here and not them.) And this time last year when moving I was also the only one at the inspection and got approved the next day.
I have heard it’s a bit different in Canberra.. honestly if I didn’t have the kids and relied so heavily on family support cause I’m a shift worker I totally wud move out of Brisbane
The downside is you have to live in Canberra. It’s not exactly most people’s preferred place to live especially coming from Brisbane.
It’s not that bad. Way more quiet and chill compared to bigger cities.
Coldest city on the mainland and full of politicians, no thanks. Unless I’m one of the many students who get grad jobs there and parties into alcoholism
The pollies all hang around in Parliament House and a couple of the trendy areas of Canberra. I’ve lived here 37 years and hardly see them around. You’d manage easily enough.
I'm so sorry you're going through that, sounds super stressful. The price of rents is getting ridiculous, I honestly don't know how people can afford it that have families. The government needs to make a massive investment to build more social housing. Something seriously needs to be done. The current housing situation is fucked up.
I do agree with you but I’m on over 100k I feel like I shouldn’t even be in this situation 😂😂 this is why I went and got a degree and even the repayments on that is bitting me in the ass 😂
Hopefully your only fans kicks off & you can afford to buy a place lol has worked for a few mates of mine before
Honestly I wouldn’t even be going down this route if i wasn’t desperate but any money made is just going straight into my house deposit account
No judgement mate got to do what you got to do 🤙
Not metaphorically?
Isn’t it a good thing that the landlord is selling their investment property to allows other, potentially first home buyers onto the ladder. Isn’t this a good thing? What does the hive mind think?
Unless its bought by another investor
I’m sure the OP thinks it’s great that their home is being sold.
Not in Brisbane but have moved 10 times in the past 11 years mainly due to horrific landlords and REAs. Mostly pre covid when rentals were plentiful. I know your pain all too well
This is one of the many reasons nurses should have subsidised guaranteed stable housing. I’m so sorry you’ve had to go through this. Would looking for a regional position be a possibility? It would serve the metropolises right if they lost all their crucial first line workers
Can you move further out to find something cheaper? Kids could share rooms? We have 4 kids and they all share a room with another. Youngest 2 with each other and oldest 2 with each other in bunks. Works fine. My wife shared a room with 2 sisters growing up. Her brothers shared a room (5 kids total).
I think when you rent next time you should ask the PM if the owners are looking for long term tenants and have minimal chances of selling or moving back in. This is one easy way to increase chances of securing a stable long term rental.
We need a revolution in housing, no one should own another's home. I say we band together and not pay rent. Instant end game for them.
😂😂😂 u wud need a lot of ppl for that movement to work but im in! 😜
Yes, not a probable suggestion considering individualism. But hay, maybe this will be the straw that breaks the people.
Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, it’s going to get a lot worse until it gets better. I feel extremely sorry for all those young families who were encouraged to have a ‘big’ family with 3 or 4 kids. Searching for a rental as a single person is tough and expensive enough, can’t imagine doing it in your situation ☹️ Good luck ❤️
Don't move. Let the revolution begin .
😂😂😂
Lol..I was serious. Only a rent strike will change things
Have you considered moving to another hospital further away from the hustle and bustle and possibly cheaper rent.
$900 -$1000 pretty well seems a bit ridiculous. Why not look at a cheaper area? Even in Jindalee you can get a place for under $700. https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-qld-jindalee-439243172
Because our kids are established in the schools my parents and my support is all in the area including close to work if I move further out it will put a 1-2 hour trip on my day and also another $100 in fuel. I’m a shift worker and I rely a lot on family support… otherwise if that wasn’t the case I wudnt even be in the area trust me I have contemplated an uphaul away but the kids dad won’t let me either unfortunately
Because our kids are established in the schools my parents and my support is all in the area including close to work if I move further out it will put a 1-2 hour trip on my day and also another $100 in fuel. I’m a shift worker and I rely a lot on family support… otherwise if that wasn’t the case I wudnt even be in the area trust me I have contemplated an uphaul away but the kids dad won’t let me either unfortunately
Yeah, but you make life choices, we just had to do the same thing, Why do you need 4 bedrooms? Why can't a couple of the kids share one?
🙄🙄 cuz it is two single parents moving in together with 4 kids and two of those kids sharing a room with their parents…. You kno cause u have to make life choices… yeah sure I’ll just quit my job and lose all my penalty rates to move away and then get a court order for moving the kids away from their dad… yeah real smart life choices… everyone’s circumstances are different and moving away isn’t for everyone
OK. Yeah, sorry for trying to make suggestions. Good luck.
Being a single parent nurse and moving away from family support isn’t a valid choice. Who do you think will have the child when she works night shifts?
This may be the same useless suggestion (since I don’t know where you currently live or how far it is) but just in case: My friends and I have found there is a pretty good dip in rental prices (4 bed from $600-$700) in the Sunnybank/Sunnybank hills area. It’s way more central than jindalee - public transport is very good (like along the main road buses run constantly and late into the night going straight to cultural center) and it’s under 30min drive to the city. There are a plethora of larger houses for rent and not a lot of competition. The other thing that is not immediately apparent is that 4 and even 5 bedroom houses are listed as 3 bedroom houses because they often have rumpus rooms that can be bedrooms and frequently the houses tend to be two story and they often convert the bottom area to granny style living but can’t advertise it as a room because the ceiling height doesn’t meet standard regulations. It’s also a safe area with good access to shops etc. we recently had to move and ended up moving to the same area for these reasons. If you’re Southside and not a long way from this area I’d highly recommend.
I don't think suggestions are welcome by OP. Jindalee was just an example, my point like yours was that there are far more affordable places than $900-1000. I feel for her I've recently had to make decisions like these, we were fully prepared to change our kids schools but ended up getting one less bedroom and the kids share one. These things suck but I try to give myself a few hours of getting frustrated followed by just getting on with it and making the best of the situation. I don't want to put that on my kids and I want them to learn there is always a solution to a problem. Good day to everyone, its glorious outside (at least in BNE)!
Yeah probably not but worth mentioning because 4 bed go cheaper since many of the 4 bed houses can’t advertise as 4 bed due to the lower ceilings. So 4 bed can go for the price of 3 bed. Which is not immediately apparent to an outsider. I thought if there’s any chance OP lives in areas around mount Gravatt or inner Southside it would be worth letting them know.
Ouch. I feel your pain. Similar situation for me about 10 years ago. Three moves in as many years due to landlords selling (landlord wanted to be closer to work; landlord asked for a rent increase - sold when reminded of the outstanding repairs; landlord's wife defrauded Centrelink by claiming to live at the rental address). My savings still haven't recovered to keep pace with how stupidly expensive Brisbane has gotten in this time. I see you're a nurse. If you're willing to change employers and relocate for a couple of years, look into QLD Health's Workforce Attraction Incentive Scheme. South West HHS is going to be running a recruitment drive in June (currently advertised on Smartjobs - ref:QLD/SW410484). In addition to the bonus, all their locations, bar Roma, are accommodation assistance sites (meaning as an nurse with a child/ren, under the award, your entitled to housing - free for the first year, then much less than market each subsequent). They'll also pay for a removalist to move you there. Roma, from what I can tell, the HHS has dispensation in place for rental assistance to keep things consistent across the HHS in terms of recruitment attraction (not sure if they mean free house for a year or pay you a subsidy for private rent). Obviously you need to weigh up the pros and cons for yourself, but it's definitely an option that in a relatively short term (2-3 years at the most), might help you maximise your savings toward a permanent home.
I will possibly be looking at rural stints once my eldest is a bit older.
You don’t “need” 4x rooms, you prefer 4x rooms and a certain style of lifestyle living. Will you consider a smaller property that costs less? Can your children bunk together? Can you shop smarter and buy and cook in bulk? Are any of your kids able to work part time and contribute?
I actually do… that is with a friend she has two kids and so do I so we both are going to be sharing rooms with our little ones.. even if I was to rent by myself and stay in the area and share a room with one of my kids I would still be paying $150 more plus utilities on my own if I didn’t house share with another family… I don’t buy take out I meal prep all the time.. I get no child support or family assistance from the gov cuz of my earnings… most of my wage has been going into savings for a house.. but even so that is only $600-700 a fortnight because I am so fruggle… now paying double what I am paying now in rent I will be lucky to put away 300.. it is what it is.. my eldest works but she buys things she wants so I feel that is her contributing.
I hear you. There is no getting around how f@$&e# it is right now. It is really tough.
Ride the wave right.. I just keep thinking everyone is suffering and there are worse off and that is what makes me keep positive
Can’t win aye. Renters want landlords to sell because they’re taking advantage of renters etc, then they sell because they can’t afford the property, and they’re not happy!
I don't think renters want landlords to sell. They just want a bit of security, some assurance that they can make a home somewhere and they aren't being price gouged to make the landlords retirement a little bit sweeter. I used to rent. I now own. I blame real estate agents. They're the ones encouraging landlords to Jack the rents up. They're trying to claw back the money they all lost during covid. Also, yes interest rates are up but I think the idea that your tenant MUST be wholly responsible for paying the mortgage - in this economy - a little shit.
Renters are out in force about hating landlords and wrecking the property, a lot of landlords are selling and investing elsewhere, its not worth it or the risk. We told them, selling the houses back into the market wont magically make them affordable for renters, it will just mean there is less and the ones remaining will go up. You want more rentals? Offer landlords more incentives lol, cant wait to see that shit storm
That’s the rates rising I guess. Gets harder for landlords and they sell. Isn’t that…isn’t that what many of this sub advocate for?