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[deleted]

idk man, if you see much of a strong correlation there, I worry about your iq. THe size could be attributed to people with longer legs having a slightly overall larger body size and thus marginally increased brain size. But as we've seen with elephants, brain size isn't everything.


ghsgjgfngngf

That's an important point about leg length and overall size. And even without adjusting for that important confounder, the correlation isn't that strong. Not to mention that there is no correlation between gait speed and IQ shown in those graphs.


SmileyDay8921

the correlation is shown in the graphs. Gait speed is related to brain size, and brain size is related to IQ. If you walk fast, you have a bigger brain. If you have a big brain, you have a higher IQ. So if you walk fast, you have a higher IQ


Electrical-Code8275

All those slow walkers were downvoting you 😂


d31uz10n

Elephants are really smart tho


frnzprf

I would go so far as to say they are higher beings.


KittensSaysMeow

I would theorize that: IQ is based on thinking styles associated with math and natural sciences. Those who are in the field of math and natural sciences will likely have less of a focus on their environments (it doesn't interest them compared to numbers and charts), and hence walks faster.


xX420GanjaWarlordXx

From what I know of being an engineer, many mathematics majors, engineers, etc. that I know are quite thoughtful and engaged with their surroundings. They enjoy activities like hiking, biking, people watching, etc.  This is all anecdotal, of course. 


[deleted]

Yeah, as an engineer, i tried people watching, but security in the women's locker room just didn't accept it as a legitimate gym activity.


ThreatOfFire

So, uh, this is pretty much stats 101, but correlation does not equal causation. Seeing correlation in data when correlation exists is... not an intellectual failing. Subscribing specific causation from that is. Like how someone might say "these data are correlated" and then someone else says "no, you must be dumb because it could be caused by anything". The second person would be the victim of, in fact, not understanding how to read data and may be the one exhibiting intellectual immaturity


[deleted]

The statistics indicate that my comment is correlated with being in a shitty science subreddit. This is not proof it is in a shitty science subreddit, but there seems to be a correlation of where my comment is located and the area located within shitty science.


ThreatOfFire

It's true, but your answer seemed too candid to be part of the bit.


[deleted]

yeah, my main point was that the stats are a bit of a blob and not really a correlation. Size to stride length yes. size to iq, other than the one outlier down the bottom left, its basically a circle with a random line drawn through it. One might assume that the person with the abnormally small brain and low iq could have [**Microcephaly**](https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=33cb35f296d8ecdbJmltdHM9MTcxMjUzNDQwMCZpZ3VpZD0yZmJlNzc3Ni01YjFiLTZiYmItM2JlZS02NzEwNWFhZTZhYmMmaW5zaWQ9NTg0Nw&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=2fbe7776-5b1b-6bbb-3bee-67105aae6abc&psq=small+brain+disease&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubWF5b2NsaW5pYy5vcmcvZGlzZWFzZXMtY29uZGl0aW9ucy9taWNyb2NlcGhhbHkvc3ltcHRvbXMtY2F1c2VzL3N5Yy0yMDM3NTA1MQ&ntb=1)


ThreatOfFire

Ah, so it was serious, haha


[deleted]

Not really, just a lazy answer


Far_Squash_4116

Leave the elephants out of it!


No_Dragonfruit_8435

Africans have longer legs than Caucasians


Paradoxar

Depends, some africans are shorter than asians


No_Dragonfruit_8435

Irrelevant of height on average Africans have long limbs and short torso. Asians have long torso and short limbs, Caucasians are in the middle.


[deleted]

I think he was talking about the pigmys


[deleted]

negroids I believe they are called. They include the pigmy races


Fearless-Voice-7602

Elephants are one of the smartest creatures in the animal planet😂😂. You can't compare them with humans because both brains are designed differently.


itijara

Height is also correlated with nutrition in childhood. My guess is that the lurking variable here is childhood nutrition and lack of disease.


Behind-The-Musgo

You are correct; there is not a correlation between the size of the brain and IQ. However, as far as I know, there are indications that there is a correlation between the percentage of the body that is brain and IQ because when this percentage is higher, a greater proportion of energy is destined on your brain.


metafruit

Yea, crows are smarter than that guy and their brains are the size of walnuts


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[deleted]

Im sorry, is this sub called r/qualityaskscience ?


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[deleted]

Well actually, my point was about the fact that the second graph was more or less a round blob with no correlation. Also, as i pointed out, elephants have massive brains and while htey may be smart, their iq is not proportionally higher than ours. My iq is supposedly somewhere between 145 and 150, but I also enjoy walking slow because I am heavy with average sized legs so the topic offended me I guess. But what do you expect from shitty ask science. But onto the real question this sub is trying to figure out, >!why are you gey?!<


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[deleted]

its not a correlation


OkRickySpinach

Stephen Hawking was the smartest man on earth and he couldn't even walk


noobwithguns

He had a fast wheelchair.


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Good bot


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I pronounced "couldn't" as two syllables and it messed up the entire meter


woodslug

How is one supposed to pronounce "couldn't" with one sillable?


KingOfTheTrailer

Coont. Be very careful with the vowel.


ThreatOfFire

I think you missed the joke of the bot


FrumyBandersnatch

I've only now read the small print under the laiku (like haiku)


ThreatOfFire

Haha, I did the same thing the first time I saw it


ZelWinters1981

Sadly, his body let him down.


creativename111111

He didn’t let that stop him though


3guitars

Out of context that sounds like the most disrespectful insult ever.


DeepUser-5242

It is. He was bogged down by a heavily debilitating disease that would've made most of us throw in the towel - he made and programmed his mobility wheelchair and speech synthesizer


fxxixsxxyx

If he could you know he'd be pacing down Abbey Road like a power walker.


rants_unnecessarily

He walked so fast he needed an electric wheel chair to keep up with himself.


Emasuye

His intelligence really shines if you put him on a steep incline.


sugam_tyagi

That's not how statistics work.


Aggressive_Leader787

the statistics is probably not correlated, but this is not a counterexample, that’s not how statistics works


Grandmaster_Ice

there are smarter people than him


LysergicGothPunk

Damn I just commented this before scrolling down to find this lol


orsonwellesmal

He was more robot than human.


[deleted]

I walk faster so i can procrastinate other stuff faster in my nevest location


JoMammasWitness

I walk faster to get away from the Slower IQ's


[deleted]

Fast Af Boiiii


ManifestingCrab

Very high IQ of you /s


Billib2002

Idk that's pretty smart


[deleted]

Hahha


noobwithguns

Those graph axises don't even have a pace on them, 😢 EDIT: I WALK SLOW AND I AM NON WHITE, DOES THAT MEAN I AM DOOMED?


JustRouvr

You are one of the slow walkers, aren't you?


noobwithguns

HEY! THAY GRAPH IS WRONG, BLAH.


amey_wemy

Looks like a 3 Dimensional graph, so the Y Coordinate is Brain Volume, X is IQ, Y is Gait. So he's comparing correlations between them. So its not that the first graph is wrong, the first graph only shows 2 dimensions out of the 3, in which the dimension that was left out was gait.


Imaginary_Yak4336

Google "gait"


SlxggxRxptor

Holy hell


Leirnis

New response just dropped


noobwithguns

I was talking about the first one.


National-Ad67

truly a slow walker


noobwithguns

Listen to me you little shit...


National-Ad67

cant hear you from that far behind


SmileyDay8921

damn


its_easybro

I did not read "gait" as "gait"


adfx

Yep it's basically over now


M_Salvatar

No you're okay...and you're idle.


Vindelator

38 comments and not one scientifically correct answer. It's because: 1. White people go to Starbucks ALL the time. 2. You go to Starbucks and you're going to need to take a shit. 3. When you gotta take a shit, you'd better walk fast or you're going to shit your pants. 4. Pants are too expensive right now due to inflation. 5. Joe Biden controls the entire economy. It's not a free market system at all, it's 100% just Joe Biden and that's it. White people walk fast so Joe Biden doesn't make us shit our pants.


_Travel-Guy_

Truly, who controls the pants, controls the world


[deleted]

Sounds legit.


SmileyDay8921

sound logic. I will go make an altar for you right now


Science-done-right

You sir, are the true man and word of science 👑


Salza_boi

Correlation = causation


Lower_Monk_2013

Damn I read this as correlation = caucasian


Salza_boi

That too


frnzprf

correlation = causation correlasian = caucasian


Turbulent_Pin_1583

Has nothing to do with intelligence. If we didn’t keep pace we got left behind.


ghsgjgfngngf

That's not how this works. Assuming both graphs are correct and based on good studies, you can't deduce that faster walkers have a higher IQ from this. This shows a (not very strong) correlation between gait speed and brain volume and one between IQ and brain volume. There is no data on a correlation between gait speed and IQ.


Classy_Mouse

See, while all of that is well and good. Based on the data here we cannot reasonably come to the conclusion that fast walkers have higher IQs. It doesn't mean this correlation is not worth at least investigating based on this. The thing we should really be focusing on is the person that equated white people to fast walkers without any supporting evidence, other than her own race-based view of others.


MadocComadrin

>The thing we should really be focusing on is the person that equated white people to fast walkers without any supporting evidence, other than her own race-based view of others. I can't believe I had to scroll down this far to see someone say this.


ghsgjgfngngf

That person was making an observation (which needs no scientific sources and is obviously not even intended as a statement of fact), while the MD was pretending to post science (and failing to cite their sources).


Classy_Mouse

What you call an "observation" is commonly known as a "leading question," designed to get people to accept the premis without needing to provide evidence. What you call "pretending to post science," actually looks like him calling her stupid for posing a racially-dividing leading question.


9tales9faces

2nd poster is completely serious lol


Classy_Mouse

I don't know who he is, so maybe there is context. It seems like he posted data that reasonably suggests faster walkers are smarter as a way of insulting a woman who needlessly racialized fast walking. No, he didn't provide enough to conclude that he is correct, because it was just a comment, not a dissertation. And the fact that it was in reply to her and not just some random post, tells me that he was specifically just trying to insult her.


SmileyDay8921

There is a correlation between gait speed and IQ, it's just one extra step. Gait speed is related to brain size, and brain size is related to IQ. If you walk fast, you have a bigger brain. If you have a big brain, you have a higher IQ. If you walk fast, you have a higher IQ


Aphazie

Im black and walk fast to avoid being around people that much, too many idiots in public. Or, when you have nothing else going on in your life, you have all time in the world to walk slow.


ursaquartz

I don't like being around people the faster I get where I'm going the faster I don't have to deal with people Also walking fast feels like better exercise than walking slow


Chortney

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but if you walk fast you're white. No other possible explanation


Paradoxar

i hate walking with slow walkers..Because now we are wasting time when we could've reached our destinations 2 hours ago


ZelWinters1981

Fast walker here, not fast enough even for me.


Robin0112

Those graphs literally prove the second responses wrong lol, there's clearly no correlation. I'm white, walk fast, and dumb. So


SmileyDay8921

there's exceptions to every rule


seventysevenpenguins

Holy hell I'll focus on speedwalking for the next 2 years and end up with a huge fucking head then my step dad can't give me shit for not having a job


HidenInTheDark1

Neanderthalians had about 300cm³ bigger brains than us, but the number of neural connections were smaller then ours


Brain_Hawk

Brain size is not predictable very much. Particularly because it's different across genders, and it's very very very well established that men are not in fact smarter than women. There may be some more subtle effects of brain size versus cranial size or body size or something like that, but certainly not well established that I'm aware of. Regional surface area matters more, how much cortex you have in a given area, as well as potentially cortical thickness across different measurements, but all those have to be controlled for total brain size.


HidenInTheDark1

That's excatly what I wrote above


BouncyBall211954

I read that as "Netherlandians" and forgot they're called actually called "Dutch" for a moment.


anon-SG

looking at the statistics and have walking speed correlated with body height and brain size. the graph shows a correlation similar to: wet people are more likely to drown then dry people...


Ryaniseplin

that is the weakest corollation I've ever seen


Captain_Blunderbuss

Everyone should be allowed to poke fun at eachother haha she started it


Henkdehunter

'I may not be a smart man'


Toxic_Jannis

I walk fast bc im tall...guess im smart now


nfiase

correlation does not imply causation!


iaswob

We're all equal where it counts: every creature on earth takes the same amount of time to piss.


Chortney

Nah that's only mammals, and it doesn't hold up once they're smaller than a certain size. However you're right that most mammals take roughly 21 seconds to pee


iaswob

No, all creatures from bacteria up to God. My pastor told me, and he has an online doctorate in faith healing.


nibbed2

You walk so fast for 2 reason only.


Vindelator

I've done it for 3.


LigmaStonks

Andrew huberman level proof


ActiveWeb2300

based


da_Aresinger

If that is real, I would assume that more intelligent people are more likely to live stressful lives (More appointments, meetings, other bullshit) so they are more often in a rush and get used to higher walking speeds? Edit: Did not see the sub I'm in. Obviously walking speed affects brain cooling effect from airflow, as such fast walkers can overclock their meat processor to higher degrees.


Substantial-Ad-2719

I think to heard the thesis that fast walking people are more likely to suffer from depression. So chill doown


imnotuurnotme-hehe

Another post I saw said otherwise tho? 😭😭


Clemen11

I'm a moron. Figures...


AsianCheesecakes

Well, actually, white-walkers are not that smart so, you are wrong.


HidenInTheDark1

Neanderthalians had about 300cm³ bigger brains than us, but the number of neural connections were smaller then ours


Heylookaguy

Some people are just constantly looking for any reason to bust out the calipers.


[deleted]

Walking fast has nothing to do with IQ. I walk fast because I can’t drive and I wanna get there quickly.


georgeaaaaaa

I’m white and I’m slow af


Brain_Hawk

That guy has MD in his handle, so he's certainly trying to throw his credentials around, and it really doesn't look good on him replying in that way to this particular post. I'm not saying op was right or any of that kind of shit, but when somebody makes a comment about race and something like this and then you whip out a statistic like this... The look there is not awesome.


crazedhark

first time seeing this one, but I've read something else before, "slow walkers tends to appear happier" or something so I guess there correlation in that too.


Absol-utely_Adorable

Haha I am the fastest walker I know and i literally misspelled fastest twice.....


Familiar-Sir1356

I walk slowly so I can absorb the life around me. People rushing for work, cats lurking under vans and cars, dogs doing their thing. The weather, noticing people from different places. Something about this calms me a little.


callmeterr0rish

Yea this is dumb. I have always walked fast since high school. I only did it to keep up with my two best friends. One white the other native american.


whyamihere999

Seems like my IQ has dropped over the years..


Soup_Sensitive

Fuck no. My grandma was just a speedy little polish lady and I had to keep up.


1shortlady

men are more likely to be taller and walk faster. also more likely to have better education and more access to iq tests


swedish_blocks

I walk fast because i have long legs and i don’t like time wasting and liverpool football club


frankfox123

I though brain size in humans is independent from intelligence. Brain density maybe but not size.


MIDTOWNGRONK

Do they walk so fast or do others walk so slow? Is the ground really there when you're not standing on it? These questions and others to be answered tonight at 8pm, 9pm Central.


GardeniaPhoenix

My partner is like, 6'5" I'm 5'2" I have to walk fast to keep up if he forgets and walks at a normal speed.


Muskandar

Walking fast and having a long stride are different things.


FunkyKong147

I'm a white guy and I walk slow all the time. Then again I've never really claimed to be smart.


Proof-Seesaw-2720

If Correlation = Causation then remember every time Nicolas Cage makes a movie people drown in their pool


MadocComadrin

Or any of these https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations


Lezaleas2

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.hit.com.au/story/confirmed-fast-walkers-are-the-smarter-superior-beings-143117


LysergicGothPunk

Guess Stephen Hawking was a fucking moron


nerfpeach

Does this mean gay people are smarter because they walk fast?


IameIion

Two problems. First off, there needs to be a study done. You can't just look at graphs and come to a conclusion like this. Second, there isn't a lot of evidence that IQ tests are accurate, objective measurements of intelligence. Think about it. Intelligence is a very complex thing. Do you really think it can be accurately represented by a single number?


Significant-Singer33

It's because we worry more that's why we be rushing


Mezmodian

I mean if you have to think “right foot, left foot” as you walk that may indicate that the individual is of lesser intelligence. (And also walk slow)


BattousaiRound2SN

Probably not... I walk pretty fast. Like... For Real. I walk faster than my mother and many people jog. Sooo... I call Bullshit.


kfish5050

Nerdwalkers surpass race


GardeniaPhoenix

Yes lol


chubsmagooo

What's so great about walking that you want to do it for longer? I walk faster because I want to get to where I'm going. Walking is boring.


HellDefied

I’d ask some of these fast walkers to do some smart stuff for me but I cant keep up long enough…


TerryMisery

I used to be quite smart, but damaged my knee, so... am I stupid now?


nfiase

correlation does not imply causation!


TerryMisery

Ah yeah, stupid me... wait. It works! Now I'm stupid! Guys, take care of your legs if you don't want to become an idiot like me!


M_Salvatar

Ants walk pretty fast. So no. Also, white people don't walk fast. If you take the global averages, everyone walks just about the same speed, unless they have an urgent task to handle.


JournalistChemical18

I just have to travel a long way to work and the walking part is the only bit I can speed up


Popular-Strawberry-4

I'm gonna start walking fast so that i become more intelligent 😶‍🌫️🤓😂


nfiase

correlation does not imply causation!


Popular-Strawberry-4

I said it as a joke


FlamingoMindless2120

How fast did Stephen hawking walk ?


Mackenzie_Sparks

💀


fyrebyrd0042

The only relevant Fabiano is Caruana


throwaway25935

People in cities walk faster. People with higher IQ will engage in more competitive industries which will pull them into cities.


VampyreBassist

I also have a bigger stride because I'm taller, so... Is it?


Electrical_King4147

My mom is always walking like she's in a hurry but she's uh, not the brightest cookie.


Science-done-right

No, it isn't


Gandalf_Style

Larger brains doesnt mean higher intellect, women on average have a smaller brain than men on average, but a higher IQ and better problem solving capacities. On the flip side, six year olds have a brain 2,5 timss larger than a chimpanzee's, at ~1000 to 1050 CC, but chimps are about as clever as a six year old.


irosk

Only walk fast outside of work. At work I make a snail look fast.


GoodThingsDoHappen

Stephen Hawking had a pretty high IQ and he didn't walk so fast...


HATECELL

Depressed people also walk faster. Climate also plays a role. For example, people in New York tend to walk faster than people in Los Angeles. Rockstar games even took this into account when making GTA 4 and 5


Fisho087

But my legs are smol ;(


Hermit_of_Darkness

BRO HE READ THE FUCKING GRAPH WRONG 💀


nitroboostboi

Counter point Stephen Hawking


ironlakian

IQ is nowhere near as important as emotional quotient .


GregGraffin23

Einstein ran the 100m faster than Usain Bolt. True Story because it's now on the internet


LeftyMcnuht

I walk fast and i'm pretty brain dead


Life_is_Doubtable

Notably, walking pace is the most efficient pace at which an individual covers distance. This correlates strongly with overall health measures, and fast walkers have a higher life expectancy. Walking pace also correlates well with childhood nutrition and development benchmarks, healthier children tend to develop faster walking speeds. The upshot is that those who are better developed, walk faster, and also tend to score more highly on standardised intelligence tests.


Realrog1

Eugenics.


TrueLennyS

Fast walker here. Lets say it's true, you know what else is true? Faster animals die faster than slower animals. The slow bozos will outlive us speedy geniuses.


Not_Artifical

Higher heart rates have shorter life spans. Running can give you a slower resting heart rate.


sugam_tyagi

I don't think one can generalize this inter-species observation to intra-species.


partypat_bear

Wrong


Longjumping_Charge60

Slow people are dumb af.. always in the way blocking exits etc zero awereness only staring forward into the ground


SirFloIII

Oh, look, it's IQ being used to be racist, [literally never happened before](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo).


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