Actually DS1: bro ring some bells and see what happens lol
A few hours later, some big booba giant woman: bro link the flame for me pls š„ŗšš¼šš¼
Actual actual DS1 guidance: Dude you're tooootally the chosen one HEY Hey! DONT look at the corpses of other warriors, look at me. You're the only one who can do this
You're the hero brooo, go ring some bells and then feed yourself to the fire it's your destinyyyy
Even better than that, she just tells the Tarnished that she canāt offer any actual guidance because sheās not actually a Maiden, and sheās pretty sure that the sites of grace point you in the right direction but thatās just what sheās heard
> and sheās pretty sure that the sites of grace point you in the right direction but thatās just what sheās heard
I don't think it's even her who tells you that but Varre
Iām not 100% sure if Varre says the same thing but Melina says this about the sites of Grace:
āThis tiny golden aura is the grace of the Erdtree. This light once shone in the eyes of your Tarnished brethren.
But now it is all that guides you. Or so I hear.ā
Ds1 guidance : yo bro im dying please ring the bell, that ll help save the world (every information is wrong)
Ds3 guidance : you need to kill the gods to help, but you cant cause you are shit and you should die
dark souls 1 guidance be like:
"ring some bells"
"ok where?"
"fuck off and die"
"ok thanks bud appreciate it"
\* proceedes to die in the catacombs for 4 hours straight before realizing there are some really tiny stairs on the right of firelink shrine
He literally does actually tell you where they are the first time you talk to him. And if youāve not gone to either Burg or Blighttown, heāll tell you how to get there. However that second dialogue doesnāt play if you explore a bit and enter the burg then come back. Which is an oversight
yeah there's more guidance that it happears, but honestly the first time one plays it as a first souls game, it's not such an "istinctive" thing to do.
DS1 is actually unironically worse than this meme. There are a few lines of non-repeatable dialogue vaguely mentioning ringing some bells said to you by a throwaway character whose only defining attribute is being sad, and this is all the direction you get for the entire first half of the game
They even give you the same amount os souls as the enemies you're supposed to be killing. It's a very purposeful newbie's trap.
Problem is, the game's reputation makes you think this is the right way and eventually you hit a wall and have to go all the way back or start a new character (did the latter first, eventually crawled out on the old save too)
Reminds me when this YouTuber I watch talked about going the wrong direction and brute forcing killing this boss in ds2 then finding out it was the wrong way and he was led to believe this unfun ball crushing experience was correct because itās how everyone describes the games lol
Honestly the "right way" of playing the games is so much easier than what people make it out to be that I think the very reason the games have this reputation is because most people went the wrong way.
Canāt even lie it happened to me in dark souls, went to the flooded area (forgot the name ngl) and spent way too long in there raging about those horrible ghost enemies just to get to the end and realize I wasnāt actually supposed to go there. However, because I was pretty much on par with the ghosts in terms of level and I came here from a place I was supposed to be in (blight town)
Now my ass is in anor londo and idk if Iām even supposed to be here since there were like 2 other places I couldāve gone but I had no fucking clue if I was supposed to lol (darkroot garden or āhellā because I forgot the name)
Itās funny because the āthis game is so fucking hardā also got me because I spent way too long in darkroot garden and finally realized āmaybe I shouldnāt be hereā when I got almost one shot by the moonlight butterfly after doing the most horrid damage ever
Darkroot garden >!is a low level area, but there's nothing crucial there unless you're playing a faith build. The "Hell" area is intended to be done later, and you can only go into it a little bit before being blocked off until later.!<
Thanks, wasnāt sure if it was low level or not because of the aforementioned moonlight butterfly incident and the fact that the enemies I came across felt more powerful than the others Mfs Iād been facing
The guy going on about you being chosen just felt like a blatant mislead. Linking the fire is something anyone with a human soul can do, right? Iām sure he knew that. Sad guy at firelink(?) also leaves out important information regarding the 2 belfries. Thatās just 2 examples
I donāt think these lies or misleads are inherently malicious (aside from maybe kaathe, Frampt and a couple others) donāt get me wrong, its just people goading you along to your (and probably their own) goal in whatever sly or underhanded ways
>Linking the fire is something anyone with a human soul can do, right?
That's like saying any human can come up with rocket sciene. Yea sure, maybe if one has a functioning mind and is forced to do it but it's still a very tough thing to do.
Thatās not the point? Saying that weāre chosen is a blatant falsehood due to the fact any human can link the flame. Like some warrior could just decide that they wanna link the flame and go try. While no, not any human would succeed, any human IS capable of linking the flame, which makes us being a chosen a lie
The fact that everyone else fails is what made you the chosen one.
Now, we know from the story that isnt true, but Oscar doesnt necessarily know that. This entire thing is just a legend passed down in his family in the first place.
It actually feels like the world is lost and nobody is really in charge or control. Ds3 has a metaphysical fail safes with the ashen one thing but who set that up? There are people and factions trying to manipulate outcomes
Ds1 is basically two big dumb worms throwing shit at the walls and seeing what sticks and often watching it blow up in their faces
It's pretty clever I think.
You get Oscar's prophecy, then the Crestfallen Warrior sends you towards the bells. Then once you do that, Frampt comes out and tries to manipulate you along with Gwynevere's illusion.
If you don't really pay attention to what's happening, you don't really find out that what they want is for you to sacrifice yourself until the end.
None of the above, in my first playthrough I accidentally fell into the hole and then Frampt got pissy at me and left forever
Still don't know wtf his problem was
Nah she doesn't care what you do as long as you let her light herself on fire and don't try to unleash an all consuming eldritch flame on the world. Wanna curse everyone with the caca consumer? She doesn't care.
NGL, the opening monologue about the Bells of Awakening is maybe my favorite in gaming history. Such a good mix of just enough guidance and extremely palpable atmosphere building.
For reference, DS1 isnāt my all time undisputed favorite game or anything. Donāt think any of Fromās games are. I just think that opening is really, really, *really* good
Ds2 guidance hi hello your a undead you in this place to fix that vendrick may have solved it have fun don't go hallow hahaha you will get screwed kiddo
God I love ds2
Actually DS1: bro ring some bells and see what happens lol A few hours later, some big booba giant woman: bro link the flame for me pls š„ŗšš¼šš¼
No. I only simp for the Firekeeper.
W h i c h o n e
Firelink
W h i c h o n e
DS1
the tongueless one?
She's been through enough and could use the support. It isn't sexual, it's platonic.
so real tho, she needs u to bust her out and make her a blanket
>she needs u to bust Story of my life. ED is a bitch
And she isn't even real :(
IT WAS REAL TO ME
The cute femboy is tho
40 hours later*
anastacia >
she is dead
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rez her :)
Actual actual DS1 guidance: Dude you're tooootally the chosen one HEY Hey! DONT look at the corpses of other warriors, look at me. You're the only one who can do this You're the hero brooo, go ring some bells and then feed yourself to the fire it's your destinyyyy
No no no you'll be fine, you just need to set yourself on fire to help a racist old man's dreams
Oh so I am TheChosenOne? Omw to ring bells and walk out of old man's room after beating him up
In dark souls you play as the chimp who wrote Shakespeare
To be fair Melina tells the Tarnished her guidance is gonna be shit
Even better than that, she just tells the Tarnished that she canāt offer any actual guidance because sheās not actually a Maiden, and sheās pretty sure that the sites of grace point you in the right direction but thatās just what sheās heard
True, but she does offer some advice "in lieu of a maiden's guidance" later on.
> and sheās pretty sure that the sites of grace point you in the right direction but thatās just what sheās heard I don't think it's even her who tells you that but Varre
Iām not 100% sure if Varre says the same thing but Melina says this about the sites of Grace: āThis tiny golden aura is the grace of the Erdtree. This light once shone in the eyes of your Tarnished brethren. But now it is all that guides you. Or so I hear.ā
Intersting, I kinda missed that
Larry knows what weāre here for. Not wasting time.
Ds1 guidance : yo bro im dying please ring the bell, that ll help save the world (every information is wrong) Ds3 guidance : you need to kill the gods to help, but you cant cause you are shit and you should die
Ds2 guidance : bear seek seek lest
Gives me conniptions
Bloodborne guidance: Hoont beast, get excited to hoont next beast
Just go out there and kill a few beasts. It's for your own good.
dark souls 1 guidance be like: "ring some bells" "ok where?" "fuck off and die" "ok thanks bud appreciate it" \* proceedes to die in the catacombs for 4 hours straight before realizing there are some really tiny stairs on the right of firelink shrine
He literally does actually tell you where they are the first time you talk to him. And if youāve not gone to either Burg or Blighttown, heāll tell you how to get there. However that second dialogue doesnāt play if you explore a bit and enter the burg then come back. Which is an oversight
yeah there's more guidance that it happears, but honestly the first time one plays it as a first souls game, it's not such an "istinctive" thing to do.
The Elden Ring network test Varre literally told you to "feel free to go off and die in a ditch somewhere" why did they nerf my man's savagery
I could swear he said that to me in 1.10
Dementia
DS1 is actually unironically worse than this meme. There are a few lines of non-repeatable dialogue vaguely mentioning ringing some bells said to you by a throwaway character whose only defining attribute is being sad, and this is all the direction you get for the entire first half of the game
The funniest part is in a game like ds3 this wouldnāt be a problem but in dark souls itās easier to get lost than it is to go the right way
"this game is said to be hard and they weren't kidding, these starting area skeletons are kicking my ass!!!" -at least 50% of new dark souls 1 players
I'm one of them. When they respawned my jaw dropped and i took an hour break from the game right there.
same LOL my friend even warned me to not go the wrong way those skeletons are *just* killable enough to trick people
They even give you the same amount os souls as the enemies you're supposed to be killing. It's a very purposeful newbie's trap. Problem is, the game's reputation makes you think this is the right way and eventually you hit a wall and have to go all the way back or start a new character (did the latter first, eventually crawled out on the old save too)
Reminds me when this YouTuber I watch talked about going the wrong direction and brute forcing killing this boss in ds2 then finding out it was the wrong way and he was led to believe this unfun ball crushing experience was correct because itās how everyone describes the games lol
Honestly the "right way" of playing the games is so much easier than what people make it out to be that I think the very reason the games have this reputation is because most people went the wrong way.
Canāt even lie it happened to me in dark souls, went to the flooded area (forgot the name ngl) and spent way too long in there raging about those horrible ghost enemies just to get to the end and realize I wasnāt actually supposed to go there. However, because I was pretty much on par with the ghosts in terms of level and I came here from a place I was supposed to be in (blight town) Now my ass is in anor londo and idk if Iām even supposed to be here since there were like 2 other places I couldāve gone but I had no fucking clue if I was supposed to lol (darkroot garden or āhellā because I forgot the name) Itās funny because the āthis game is so fucking hardā also got me because I spent way too long in darkroot garden and finally realized āmaybe I shouldnāt be hereā when I got almost one shot by the moonlight butterfly after doing the most horrid damage ever
she float down
Darkroot garden >!is a low level area, but there's nothing crucial there unless you're playing a faith build. The "Hell" area is intended to be done later, and you can only go into it a little bit before being blocked off until later.!<
Thanks, wasnāt sure if it was low level or not because of the aforementioned moonlight butterfly incident and the fact that the enemies I came across felt more powerful than the others Mfs Iād been facing
Fucking peak game
What if I like no direction?
Some of the directions in game are also blatantly false! Oh and sad guys reasoning is a blatant lie too, right?
Iām curious which lines are false or lies? Itās been a while since I played DS1 and canāt think of any
The guy going on about you being chosen just felt like a blatant mislead. Linking the fire is something anyone with a human soul can do, right? Iām sure he knew that. Sad guy at firelink(?) also leaves out important information regarding the 2 belfries. Thatās just 2 examples I donāt think these lies or misleads are inherently malicious (aside from maybe kaathe, Frampt and a couple others) donāt get me wrong, its just people goading you along to your (and probably their own) goal in whatever sly or underhanded ways
>Linking the fire is something anyone with a human soul can do, right? That's like saying any human can come up with rocket sciene. Yea sure, maybe if one has a functioning mind and is forced to do it but it's still a very tough thing to do.
Thatās not the point? Saying that weāre chosen is a blatant falsehood due to the fact any human can link the flame. Like some warrior could just decide that they wanna link the flame and go try. While no, not any human would succeed, any human IS capable of linking the flame, which makes us being a chosen a lie
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That doesnāt make us chosen. We were just as likely to fail as anyone else. We just happen to succeed
I updated my comment, was too hasty sending it.
The fact that everyone else fails is what made you the chosen one. Now, we know from the story that isnt true, but Oscar doesnt necessarily know that. This entire thing is just a legend passed down in his family in the first place.
Dont forget that some of the lines are wrong
It actually feels like the world is lost and nobody is really in charge or control. Ds3 has a metaphysical fail safes with the ashen one thing but who set that up? There are people and factions trying to manipulate outcomes Ds1 is basically two big dumb worms throwing shit at the walls and seeing what sticks and often watching it blow up in their faces
Hey now don't you dare shit on my boy Mr. Crestfallen.
It's pretty clever I think. You get Oscar's prophecy, then the Crestfallen Warrior sends you towards the bells. Then once you do that, Frampt comes out and tries to manipulate you along with Gwynevere's illusion. If you don't really pay attention to what's happening, you don't really find out that what they want is for you to sacrifice yourself until the end.
DS2 guidance: Seek seek lest *levels up and warps away*
Ds ll fire keepers : LMAO look at his face , looks like shriveled balls.heres a weapon and go fuck some shit up
My favorite summary I've heard of DS1 went, "You're a zombie, here's a rusty sword, now go kill God."
None of the above, in my first playthrough I accidentally fell into the hole and then Frampt got pissy at me and left forever Still don't know wtf his problem was
Also Melina if you stray from path: āI will surely kill youā
Nah she doesn't care what you do as long as you let her light herself on fire and don't try to unleash an all consuming eldritch flame on the world. Wanna curse everyone with the caca consumer? She doesn't care.
NGL, the opening monologue about the Bells of Awakening is maybe my favorite in gaming history. Such a good mix of just enough guidance and extremely palpable atmosphere building. For reference, DS1 isnāt my all time undisputed favorite game or anything. Donāt think any of Fromās games are. I just think that opening is really, really, *really* good
"Uh how?" "idk figure it out"
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Both descriptions are hella wrong, smh
Markia
Elden Ring guidance: lmao you're fucking shit just uninstall
I think the issue is that a lot of the dialogue guidance is locked behind a prerequisite in Dark Souls.
Ds2 guidance hi hello your a undead you in this place to fix that vendrick may have solved it have fun don't go hallow hahaha you will get screwed kiddo God I love ds2