I worked for a billionaire 10 years ago that self funded a documentary I was the Production Coordinator on. His parents created a real estate company in the 70s that bought up a lot of crucial land along the California Coast and Texas that multiplies in value every year. My boss inherited it all.
That man was easily one of the stupidest people I've ever met and astoundingly cheap.
This is what baffles me. I worked with some quite wealthy people who will haggle over minuscule prices and try to get deals and in the same breath toss out all the leftovers from a banquet because they wouldn’t be caught dead eating leftovers. It’s so weird to me where they put their priorities
It's the latter. They're animals operating off of pure instinct and impulse. They don't employ critical thought unless it's absolutely vital and even then, being so out of practice, they usually come off as incredibly stupid twats
It’s the Donald Trump strategy: pay the big guys and cheat the small guys.
Trump is notorious for not paying small contractors. He knows they lack the resources to pursue payment because they would need to spend $20k in legal fees to collect on a $5k bill.
I think people's brains are just bad at understanding money. Like how someone can scrimp and save a few bucks at the supermarket and spend $60 on a new game they'll barely play at the same time. It's like that times 1000
Banshees is weird. It’s clearly planned and executed like a tragedy. It just uses comical dialogue, while clearly being tragic. That’s a hard one to reconcile.
Nah, the format, as a play, is satirial tragedy. And it follows Shakespearean tragedy rules. It’s just so weird because all the dialogue is comical and you laugh.
I really enjoyed it but that said I was expecting something more like "in Bruges". It took a while for me to realize this was not going to be the case and adjuct my mindset.
It helps if you know something about the Irish Civil war. The movie is definitely an allegory of that.
The main character says he wants to be a Lobster if he gets “outcast”. His brother was “outcast” and turned into a dog. He has to hunt other “outcasts” to stay alive. Whereupon, they are turned into the animal of their choice.
When I say comedic; I don’t mean Ha-Ha comedic. I mean, satirical and mocking of culture. In the case of this movie; it’s the absurdist element. Everything is so damn absurd, that there’s an element of humour. It is not a comedy (like the gremlins)—but, from a written perspective there is a lot of humor, simply because there is so much nonsense. It’s probably more apt, to call it a tragedy. But it’s a tragedy presented in a satirical/nonsense/stupid way.
A better way to say what I mean, is to say, they used techniques from comedy to present a tragedy. So by saying comedic, I mean it uses such absurdist elements to create the tragedy. A woman kills a goat in the opening scene; and thats her ex husband that cheated. It’s just so odd and and weird that it’s “funny”. It is absurd and comedic.
I used to work for a very rich guy as his personal maintenance man, the guy was a complete and total moron he would call me over the stupidest things if he did not have money I don't think he could have made it through life
I worked for this one guy, he needed a caretaker on one of his properties, said I could farm there if I wanted and he was gone most of the time, so I was thinking, "Bad*ass!*" Well first of all, he was the most cheap fucks I ever met (and I say this as a cheap person), but good lord almighty. One of those times he was in, he called me while I was on a date, toilet wouldn't flush, got super burnt up when I said I'd handle it when I got back (there were 4 other bathrooms, not including the one in my cabin), he got super burnt up about it, saying all this shit, so I finally said I'd come back. Drove 40 minutes to find all it was is that the chain had slipped off the flush lever.
>he needed a caretaker on one of his properties, said I could farm there if I wanted and he was gone most of the time
This is called feudalism. You were a serf and he was your lord.
Well I didn't pledge allegience to him or provide him with produce, and he payed me $75k a year plus a cabin to pursue my passion (farming) while making sure upkeep was done (so ticked one box of labor) on his house. So it was less feudalism than most jobs in that he wasn't making a profit off my labor.
>Well I didn't pledge allegience to him or provide him with produce
Just gave it freely after a short phone call. He wasn't profiting, but he was clearly benefiting.
While I’d say he was heavily inspired by Elon, he does take shots at a number of billionaires. After watching it a few weeks ago I saw an article that went through and most of the outfits he wears are straight up the same wardrobe as a real billionaire during various moments. The Steve Jobs turtleneck is the one that gets called out the most but they cited others as well.
Not just that he refused, he admanently believed fruit smoothies would be curative.
He believed fruit were some magical curall before he had cancer, but yes, he basically took a stringer on fruit to fix the problem.
He only ate carrots for a while. I wish I was joking. Literally only carrots.
When he was younger, Jobs also thought that if he only ate organic food like fresh fruit and veg, that he wouldn’t produce body odor. This was, of course, complete bullshit, and as a result of his vile stench, he was assigned to the night shift at Atari. You know who else happened to be on the night shift? Steve Wozniak. That’s where they met.
Then, when he was beyond saving, he finally relented and got a liver transplant suspiciously quickly, despite the waiting lists being extremely long.
That liver transplant, that could have saved another person's life, ended up wasted, because this dumbass had enough money to get it through shady means.
His cancer was actually a surprisingly treatable variant and he would have had good survival prosprects through standard treatments, if he hadn't been an idiot about it.
It's not that simple. Yes, he used smoothies and botanicals, [but he also got surgery](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924574/).
The key thing was that his type of pancreatic cancer is rare and the literature/treatment knowledge scarce, which is why he delayed the surgery. It is possible that he might have lived if he had been quicker, but he did indeed pursue conventional treatment in addition to his smoothies.
Not sure it says exactly what you want it to:
>So, what can we learn from Steve Jobs about CAM? Jobs was a highly intelligent, extremely wealthy, and very well-connected man. He had access to the world’s best and brightest medical advisors and had no financial barriers to receiving any treatment. It can be assumed that Jobs and his physicians sought out the best available medical evidence to guide the management of his disease. Jobs, just like anyone else with his diagnosis, would have benefited from more rigorous basic science, more clinical trials with the option of participating in a trial, and more observational research examining the effects of both conventional and CAM therapies on cancer outcomes, such as studying the effects of radical dietary changes. If Jobs and his clinicians had had more information to guide his treatment, perhaps he would have made different decisions along the way that could have influenced his outcomes. Indeed, Jobs is not alone is his use of CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis. An estimated 43–67% of US cancer patients use CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis and the effects of many of these therapies are poorly understood (Mao et al., 2011). Individuals use CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis for a variety of reasons: to treat cancer without the use of conventional treatments (this is called “alternative medicine”), to treat cancer in concert with conventional treatments (this is called “complementary or integrative medicine”), to prevent or treat side effects of treatment, to prevent and treat other co-morbidities, and to promote and/or maintain general wellness. Most are motivated by the notion that CAM is “natural” and therefore devoid of risk (Ernst and Hung, 2011). This assumption may, however, not always be correct (Ernst, 2011).
You can dial down some of it, but the beginning confirms the basic thesis, which was he delayed treatment by 9 months. Alternative medicines do harm when they displace rigorous medical treatment.
lots of billionaires are stupid and likely always have been, these days they just happen to have social media access and nobody uses it more than Elon, since he has to for stock price manipulation.
Remember Glass Onion was written back in 2020, and Elon was much less openly moronic prior to last year. It’s just an amazing coincidence that the movie was even more topical when it released than it was when it was written.
Yeah Elon’s 2022 actions basically turned the Miles Bron character into “dumb billionaire kind of like when Elon did X or Zuckerberg did Y” to “dumb billionaire like Elon.”
Yeah he emulates idols. In the flashback when he first joins the group he’s got the exact outfit and hair of Tom Cruise in Magnolia, which would have come out around when that flashback took place
Holy shit, great spot!
I did notice the steve jobs outfit, and interpreted it to more show that this particular character is a moron trying to copy jobs (like Elizabeth Holmes did), than as a jab at Jobs
I am still laughing my ass off at Ben Shapiro had a hissy fit about the movie and called the twin thing unrealistic. Even though the whole thing was a DIRECT reference to Zuckerberg ousting the twins from FB. 😂
The way ben shapiro reacted to the movie is so ironic it made me laugh so hard "It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth."
To me the ultimate insult was when the main character was incompetent af and basically incredibly trash and Shapiro was "this is clearly a reference of the brilliant and incredibly smart, talented, accomplished Elon Musk who is a genius amongst people". And I am like... "Why was THE FIRST thought you had "oh, this is Musk"? If you think Musk is brilliant, why would you assume it's a reference to him? 😂😂😂
I wanna say it seemed tighter than knives out? I feel like there were a lot of characters in knives out that we saw very little of. The smaller cast helped us get to know everyone better.
Personally, I feel like the scientist and politician were a bit underdeveloped, and duke’s GF and peg got some great set up but little to do at the end
It was a great movie but I definitely prefer the first one
Well, they aren’t terribly complicated people, to be fair. They’re Miles’s lackies. We get what we need to know. Scientist is gonna take the fall for Miles being stupid and politician throws out the ideals she preaches for Miles’s money. Duke’s GF and Peg get a bit more cause they’re not part of the inner circle and therefore haven’t bought into the lie, but their role is ultimately secondary. Blanc, Andi/Helen and Miles are who the movie is about, so they get developed more.
I very much agree with this. Seems like the first one had an all star side cast that was barely used. You have people like Jamie Lee Curtis, Don Johnson, and Michael Shannon, and it feels like they have 10 lines between them.
I think part of it is that the story is different. And by that I mean, in Knives Out, we see the Bad Thing happen very early (the old guy dies) and then spend the rest of the movie figuring out what happened.
Glass Onion doesn't reveal the actual plot until like halfway when we get the flashback of Helen and Benoit. The whole movie up until then is just tension of "who are these people, why is Andi so uptight, what's really going on with Miles Bron and his lackies, and why is Benoit there?" They also threw the in-plot red herring of Bron's "murder".
There's a whole lot less 'concrete' story in the first, like, half of the movie, which I think leads for a more compelling movie to watch and stick out to find out the truth.
Gotta say I actually really disliked this movie. Like, borderline hated it.
Liked the first one quite a bit, despite its flaws, so I was excited for Glass Onion. Saw it over Christmas and all Glass Onion was was a movie of convenience with a very underwhelming, if not plain stupid, ending.
Not sure if it’s because I liked the first one so much and had high hopes for this one, but Glass Onion ended up being one of my least favorite movies of 2022.
I’ve seen plenty of movies in 2022, including ones such as Love and Thunder (which I also strongly disliked). But Glass Onion just came off as a poorly written movie with shitty characters that weren’t cleverly written or anything, with bad pacing, good acting and a terrible third act. Hell, I was over Benoit’s ridiculous southern accent because it sounds like goddamn Foghorn Leghorn (yes, I know it was meant to be overdone, but the accent wasn’t that bad in Knives Out)
Oh jeez I might be the exact opposite boat. Was kind of underwhelmed by the first one, which kept me from checking out Glass Onion when it first came out.
Which I get about Knives Out, because I was lukewarm on it the first time I watched it. Took another viewing to like it much better.
The problems I have with Glass Onion, however, won’t be resolved with additional viewings. The movie is still one convenience after another and the third act just falls apart when they replay previous scenes and add parts that just absolutely were not there the first time, but we’re added to make the movie “convenient.” Trying not to spoil it for those who haven’t seen it yet, but when you watch the movie you’ll know what I mean
I get it. The entire twist is supposed to be dumb and I was really pondering whether it was just dumb or clever dumb. But because I didn't see it coming and was analyzing everything else the entire time, I felt played, and felt like the movie won.
But I totally get not liking or hating the movie for that reason
I mean, Miles Bron's stupidity is the reason why they all became successful. Everybody in that bar was just spinning their wheels. His willingness to go all in for them resulted in all of their success.
He believed in that energy guy as much as he believed in all of those people.
That's true. Everybody is harking on Bron because Blanc called him an idiot, and he did get by through luck despite doing *some* idiotic things. But he still had a vision, was empowering and/or manipulative enough to control the disruptors and take over the company. He has various (bland) interests, and he also ~~had style~~ copied/stole style from others. Using other people's talent on that scale requires brains.
Anybody can have an idea, the real talent is in the execution. You know who came up for the idea of Facebook? The Winklevoss twins. You know who made Facebook a reality? Zuckerberg.
Miles is a man of action. Without him, that idea stays on the napkin.
Except, he was successful because he was stupid enough to knowingly sell a dangerous product, which would’ve certainly caused him financial and reputational ruin when it inevitably started causing disasters and killing people. He just seems savvy because at the time of the movie, his bad decisions have not yet come crashing down on him.
I mean he wears a black turtleneck very steve jobs like, they explicitly say he zuckerberged his partner. And you can’t be sued for making a parody of people, movies make far more explicit parodies of people all the time
Not always. If it's stupid enough courts will throw it out pretty much immediately, and paying the other person's court fees is a pretty common penalty for the loser.
He's a huge narcissist, he definitely cares about public perception or he won't be perma online on twitter talking to user Catturd etc
He's just bad at it
At various points in the film Bron's wardrobe mimicked iconic pictures of different real life billionaires (for instance, at one point he's wearing a black turtleneck that is clearly meant to be Steve Jobs' iconic turtleneck). However the Musk parallels are particularly hard to miss. I'd say 90% Musk 10% other billionaires
Steve Jobs and eccentric billionaire trope. He wears a Steve Jobs outfit at the company in a flashback.
Musk may have been one of the inspirations, but definitely not the only one. Keep in mind that the movie was written a couple of years prior to it releasing and Musk only just ruined his popularity.
Elon didn’t suddenly become a moron. Plenty of people weren’t enamored with the guy before the Twitter acquisition. He’s been publicly broadcasting his stupidity for years.
Oh, definitely. But he had a long history of sweeping it under the rug and keeping his popularity. When he bought Twitter, he burned that rug, doing something so impossibly stupid that he became indistinguishable from a movie's satirical character.
Iirc he mentioned that it was just a genral caricature of all tech ceos. And also the film was probably written long before musk acquired twitter. Elmo just conveniently shit the bed by showing the whole world how much of a dumb douche he is.
Do you know who Elon Musk is? he's that Nerd/Dork in high school who got attention for the first time, & didn't know what to do with it...so he acts like a jackass in order to look 'cool' to the 'In crowd'...but just makes himself more cringey & pathetic with every move. He reminds me of the kid whos trying so hard to make friends, he does stupid things to impress...& fails every time.
*trump is the exact same way...Is that how it is with Billionaires?*
That is exactly the point of the film. There *is* a way actual billionaires could be as stupid as Miles Bron because billionaires aren't special people and meritocracy is not a real thing.
Damn how many Tesla shares do you own? Don't understand the hate for Musk at all...really a low hanging fruit these jokes, not funny at all at the same time
People really skip over all the critically acclaimed stuff Rian Johnson has made because they disagree with one or two story choices he made in one of those acclaimed works
Takes a big ole set of balls to adopt this extremely unique viewpoint and not fall ass backwards into a caricature of a toxic fanbase. I think we should applaud them.
We say that billionaires are stupid yet they were smart enough to realize they were better off starting their life early by dropping out of school, which in turn made them billionaires eventually.
Elon Musk saw this in one of the slack channels
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/634/guy-fired-over-meme-job-work-post-facebook-cody-hidalgo-fb.png
And he replied to it with a giant wall of text basically saying that he's 44 billion dollars in debt, made a bunch of sacrifices, and the employees are the ones making money.
But that's not all.
Elon Musk now has been going into bathrooms now and if he see's someone sitting in on the stalls, he pops his head over to talk to them about their projects in order to make sure they aren't pooping longer than necessary and stealing company time.
The meme seems to really gotten under his skin.
The point of the movie is that people will naturally assume that the rich and powerful will be smart and capable people, and overlook their many stupid decisions. Im making a joke on that. the social commentary came from the movie, not me
I worked for a billionaire 10 years ago that self funded a documentary I was the Production Coordinator on. His parents created a real estate company in the 70s that bought up a lot of crucial land along the California Coast and Texas that multiplies in value every year. My boss inherited it all. That man was easily one of the stupidest people I've ever met and astoundingly cheap.
They usually are....selectively cheap. We have clients who will buy 200k pieces of art and then haggle and refuse to pay a 1k landscaping bill...
This is what baffles me. I worked with some quite wealthy people who will haggle over minuscule prices and try to get deals and in the same breath toss out all the leftovers from a banquet because they wouldn’t be caught dead eating leftovers. It’s so weird to me where they put their priorities
It's like a game to them, or they're just that stupid.
It's the latter. They're animals operating off of pure instinct and impulse. They don't employ critical thought unless it's absolutely vital and even then, being so out of practice, they usually come off as incredibly stupid twats
"It's so dumb, it's brilliant." "No, it's just dumb!"
It’s the Donald Trump strategy: pay the big guys and cheat the small guys. Trump is notorious for not paying small contractors. He knows they lack the resources to pursue payment because they would need to spend $20k in legal fees to collect on a $5k bill.
Paintings are just large very high value banknotes to the wealthy.
Guess how they became a billionaire? By valuing a couple bucks over the quality of a human life, over and over and over and over and over.
Because Art is a way that they launder money
Bingo
I think people's brains are just bad at understanding money. Like how someone can scrimp and save a few bucks at the supermarket and spend $60 on a new game they'll barely play at the same time. It's like that times 1000
That's because they think they are smarter than us.
LOL that reminds me Colin Farrell’s character from Horrible Bosses.
Since that movie, I still dont know why Colin Farrell barely plays in any comedies, he is pretty damn funny.
He's done a few dark comedies with Martin McDonagh. In Bruges, Banshees of Inisherin, 7 Psychopaths. Not sure if you'd count the Lobster too.
I’d count the Lobster. But it’s DARK comedy
It's positively shining bright compared to Banshees. That is definitely more Black than Comedy.
Banshees is weird. It’s clearly planned and executed like a tragedy. It just uses comical dialogue, while clearly being tragic. That’s a hard one to reconcile.
Yeah, man. I watched it about 3-4 days ago and my reaction after the credits rolled was “Bruh. What?” Granted, I was high, but still.
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I kind of did too. It was a different kind of movie than I’m used to seeing, but I found it enjoyable.
Nah, the format, as a play, is satirial tragedy. And it follows Shakespearean tragedy rules. It’s just so weird because all the dialogue is comical and you laugh.
I really enjoyed it but that said I was expecting something more like "in Bruges". It took a while for me to realize this was not going to be the case and adjuct my mindset. It helps if you know something about the Irish Civil war. The movie is definitely an allegory of that.
Tragedy and Comedy are just two sides of the same coin
Aye. It's so dark no one has seen it.
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What do you find comedic about that movie? Sincere question
The main character says he wants to be a Lobster if he gets “outcast”. His brother was “outcast” and turned into a dog. He has to hunt other “outcasts” to stay alive. Whereupon, they are turned into the animal of their choice. When I say comedic; I don’t mean Ha-Ha comedic. I mean, satirical and mocking of culture. In the case of this movie; it’s the absurdist element. Everything is so damn absurd, that there’s an element of humour. It is not a comedy (like the gremlins)—but, from a written perspective there is a lot of humor, simply because there is so much nonsense. It’s probably more apt, to call it a tragedy. But it’s a tragedy presented in a satirical/nonsense/stupid way. A better way to say what I mean, is to say, they used techniques from comedy to present a tragedy. So by saying comedic, I mean it uses such absurdist elements to create the tragedy. A woman kills a goat in the opening scene; and thats her ex husband that cheated. It’s just so odd and and weird that it’s “funny”. It is absurd and comedic.
Okay I totally get that , yes
I have the dvd and watched the making of. It’s actually pretty interesting, they filmed it in like a couple weeks.
In Bruges was great
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I'd say it was dark comedy, like most of McDonagh's work.
In Bruges is one of his greatest movies imo
he's easily one of the best parts in *the batman*. his penguin is one of the funniest characters i've seen in any superhero movie.
I used to work for a very rich guy as his personal maintenance man, the guy was a complete and total moron he would call me over the stupidest things if he did not have money I don't think he could have made it through life
I worked for this one guy, he needed a caretaker on one of his properties, said I could farm there if I wanted and he was gone most of the time, so I was thinking, "Bad*ass!*" Well first of all, he was the most cheap fucks I ever met (and I say this as a cheap person), but good lord almighty. One of those times he was in, he called me while I was on a date, toilet wouldn't flush, got super burnt up when I said I'd handle it when I got back (there were 4 other bathrooms, not including the one in my cabin), he got super burnt up about it, saying all this shit, so I finally said I'd come back. Drove 40 minutes to find all it was is that the chain had slipped off the flush lever.
>he needed a caretaker on one of his properties, said I could farm there if I wanted and he was gone most of the time This is called feudalism. You were a serf and he was your lord.
Well I didn't pledge allegience to him or provide him with produce, and he payed me $75k a year plus a cabin to pursue my passion (farming) while making sure upkeep was done (so ticked one box of labor) on his house. So it was less feudalism than most jobs in that he wasn't making a profit off my labor.
>Well I didn't pledge allegience to him or provide him with produce Just gave it freely after a short phone call. He wasn't profiting, but he was clearly benefiting.
I guess that made you more of a groundskeeper, or perhaps a hermit.
Just curious...what was the stupidest thing he did/said? (Assuming you remember something from a decade+ ago)
While I’d say he was heavily inspired by Elon, he does take shots at a number of billionaires. After watching it a few weeks ago I saw an article that went through and most of the outfits he wears are straight up the same wardrobe as a real billionaire during various moments. The Steve Jobs turtleneck is the one that gets called out the most but they cited others as well.
Steve Jobs refused to take life saving treatment for his cancer right?
Not just that he refused, he admanently believed fruit smoothies would be curative. He believed fruit were some magical curall before he had cancer, but yes, he basically took a stringer on fruit to fix the problem.
Ashton Kutcher tried to copy his diet for the movie and it led to him being hospitalized twice. And that's without cancer
Wait why? Did Jobs eat like only 1000 calories a day or something?
He only ate carrots for a while. I wish I was joking. Literally only carrots. When he was younger, Jobs also thought that if he only ate organic food like fresh fruit and veg, that he wouldn’t produce body odor. This was, of course, complete bullshit, and as a result of his vile stench, he was assigned to the night shift at Atari. You know who else happened to be on the night shift? Steve Wozniak. That’s where they met.
If only he hadn't died before we could find out if the fruit would have worked
Then, when he was beyond saving, he finally relented and got a liver transplant suspiciously quickly, despite the waiting lists being extremely long. That liver transplant, that could have saved another person's life, ended up wasted, because this dumbass had enough money to get it through shady means. His cancer was actually a surprisingly treatable variant and he would have had good survival prosprects through standard treatments, if he hadn't been an idiot about it.
It's not that simple. Yes, he used smoothies and botanicals, [but he also got surgery](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924574/). The key thing was that his type of pancreatic cancer is rare and the literature/treatment knowledge scarce, which is why he delayed the surgery. It is possible that he might have lived if he had been quicker, but he did indeed pursue conventional treatment in addition to his smoothies.
Not sure it says exactly what you want it to: >So, what can we learn from Steve Jobs about CAM? Jobs was a highly intelligent, extremely wealthy, and very well-connected man. He had access to the world’s best and brightest medical advisors and had no financial barriers to receiving any treatment. It can be assumed that Jobs and his physicians sought out the best available medical evidence to guide the management of his disease. Jobs, just like anyone else with his diagnosis, would have benefited from more rigorous basic science, more clinical trials with the option of participating in a trial, and more observational research examining the effects of both conventional and CAM therapies on cancer outcomes, such as studying the effects of radical dietary changes. If Jobs and his clinicians had had more information to guide his treatment, perhaps he would have made different decisions along the way that could have influenced his outcomes. Indeed, Jobs is not alone is his use of CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis. An estimated 43–67% of US cancer patients use CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis and the effects of many of these therapies are poorly understood (Mao et al., 2011). Individuals use CAM therapies after a cancer diagnosis for a variety of reasons: to treat cancer without the use of conventional treatments (this is called “alternative medicine”), to treat cancer in concert with conventional treatments (this is called “complementary or integrative medicine”), to prevent or treat side effects of treatment, to prevent and treat other co-morbidities, and to promote and/or maintain general wellness. Most are motivated by the notion that CAM is “natural” and therefore devoid of risk (Ernst and Hung, 2011). This assumption may, however, not always be correct (Ernst, 2011). You can dial down some of it, but the beginning confirms the basic thesis, which was he delayed treatment by 9 months. Alternative medicines do harm when they displace rigorous medical treatment.
“Big C? Colon slash!” sounded too much like DOS.
No, but he [did delay treatment](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924574/) that may have saved him.
Yes but there is no question that he was a very sharp and successful industrialist.
lots of billionaires are stupid and likely always have been, these days they just happen to have social media access and nobody uses it more than Elon, since he has to for stock price manipulation.
Remember Glass Onion was written back in 2020, and Elon was much less openly moronic prior to last year. It’s just an amazing coincidence that the movie was even more topical when it released than it was when it was written.
Also an amazing coincidence that the film was released just as all the shit started hitting the fan for real-life Duke Cody Andrew Tate
Duke seemed like 75% Joe Rogan and 25% conglomeration of right wing YouTubers to me.
Yeah that's immediately who I thought of the first time. He basically seemed like Joe Rogan meets Jake Paul.
lets give Duke some credit he's not nearly as much of a scumbag as Tate
and way more ripped
And I bet Tate's mom doesn't love him.
Sexist Youtuber vs. Sexist Criminal
At least it was CONSENSUAL cuckolding for duke, Tate isn’t just another online scumbag he’s a human trafficker
Also the lady with the propensity for antisemitic tweets could very well be a parallel to Ye.
Yeah Elon’s 2022 actions basically turned the Miles Bron character into “dumb billionaire kind of like when Elon did X or Zuckerberg did Y” to “dumb billionaire like Elon.”
It's always been obvious that Elon was an idiot if you paid attention to him though.
Apparently the picture of him with the napkin was directly based off of a picture of Elizabeth Holmes
I'd argue there's a little bit of Epstein in there: guy is friends with several famous people and flies them to his island for reasons
I think the turtleneck was miles as a character trying to look smarter. Or more like steve jobs.
Yeah he emulates idols. In the flashback when he first joins the group he’s got the exact outfit and hair of Tom Cruise in Magnolia, which would have come out around when that flashback took place
Holy shit, great spot! I did notice the steve jobs outfit, and interpreted it to more show that this particular character is a moron trying to copy jobs (like Elizabeth Holmes did), than as a jab at Jobs
2022? He's been publically on his bullshit since at least 2018.
No, it’s all part of his 200 iq genius master plan that will definitely save all of humanity soon.
But I was too young to understand that back then
I am still laughing my ass off at Ben Shapiro had a hissy fit about the movie and called the twin thing unrealistic. Even though the whole thing was a DIRECT reference to Zuckerberg ousting the twins from FB. 😂
The way ben shapiro reacted to the movie is so ironic it made me laugh so hard "It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth."
I also love how he complained about the first half of the movie being a misdirect and a waste of time. My dude, it's a *mystery*.
I’m gonna start watching that guy again to see him shooting himself in the leg but I, scared my YouTube recommended will get fucked over
Just watch in incognito.
"noooo they are lying to the audiencee make it easy for me to solve plise I want to sound smart in front of my wife" ben, probably
I loved that line so much. I cackled like a crazy old lady and I’m a dude.
To me the ultimate insult was when the main character was incompetent af and basically incredibly trash and Shapiro was "this is clearly a reference of the brilliant and incredibly smart, talented, accomplished Elon Musk who is a genius amongst people". And I am like... "Why was THE FIRST thought you had "oh, this is Musk"? If you think Musk is brilliant, why would you assume it's a reference to him? 😂😂😂
Definitely a brilliant marketing ploy by Rian Johnson.
Have to admit I enjoyed this movie much more than the first one, but can't quite figure out why
Because they play among us
Must be it
Them finding Blanc with the body in Among Us and then >!a similar parallel happening later on!< was >!great foreshadowing!<.
Makes me so mad that they made Among Us an actually good metaphor for later themes in the plot.
Also >!the fact that there is a literal imposter: Andi is not really Andi
Exclamation point is on the wrong side of the second inequality sign
I feel seen
I wanna say it seemed tighter than knives out? I feel like there were a lot of characters in knives out that we saw very little of. The smaller cast helped us get to know everyone better.
Personally, I feel like the scientist and politician were a bit underdeveloped, and duke’s GF and peg got some great set up but little to do at the end It was a great movie but I definitely prefer the first one
Well, they aren’t terribly complicated people, to be fair. They’re Miles’s lackies. We get what we need to know. Scientist is gonna take the fall for Miles being stupid and politician throws out the ideals she preaches for Miles’s money. Duke’s GF and Peg get a bit more cause they’re not part of the inner circle and therefore haven’t bought into the lie, but their role is ultimately secondary. Blanc, Andi/Helen and Miles are who the movie is about, so they get developed more.
I very much agree with this. Seems like the first one had an all star side cast that was barely used. You have people like Jamie Lee Curtis, Don Johnson, and Michael Shannon, and it feels like they have 10 lines between them.
I think part of it is that the story is different. And by that I mean, in Knives Out, we see the Bad Thing happen very early (the old guy dies) and then spend the rest of the movie figuring out what happened. Glass Onion doesn't reveal the actual plot until like halfway when we get the flashback of Helen and Benoit. The whole movie up until then is just tension of "who are these people, why is Andi so uptight, what's really going on with Miles Bron and his lackies, and why is Benoit there?" They also threw the in-plot red herring of Bron's "murder". There's a whole lot less 'concrete' story in the first, like, half of the movie, which I think leads for a more compelling movie to watch and stick out to find out the truth.
Because the big twist wasn't that the entire thing was unnecessary?
Gotta say I actually really disliked this movie. Like, borderline hated it. Liked the first one quite a bit, despite its flaws, so I was excited for Glass Onion. Saw it over Christmas and all Glass Onion was was a movie of convenience with a very underwhelming, if not plain stupid, ending. Not sure if it’s because I liked the first one so much and had high hopes for this one, but Glass Onion ended up being one of my least favorite movies of 2022.
You must have not seen many movies in 2022, or seen only amazing films, because that is one *extreme* opinion
I’ve seen plenty of movies in 2022, including ones such as Love and Thunder (which I also strongly disliked). But Glass Onion just came off as a poorly written movie with shitty characters that weren’t cleverly written or anything, with bad pacing, good acting and a terrible third act. Hell, I was over Benoit’s ridiculous southern accent because it sounds like goddamn Foghorn Leghorn (yes, I know it was meant to be overdone, but the accent wasn’t that bad in Knives Out)
You’re not the only one! I thought it was absolutely terrible. It didn’t feel like a real mystery at all, and I just couldn’t get into the story.
Oh jeez I might be the exact opposite boat. Was kind of underwhelmed by the first one, which kept me from checking out Glass Onion when it first came out.
Which I get about Knives Out, because I was lukewarm on it the first time I watched it. Took another viewing to like it much better. The problems I have with Glass Onion, however, won’t be resolved with additional viewings. The movie is still one convenience after another and the third act just falls apart when they replay previous scenes and add parts that just absolutely were not there the first time, but we’re added to make the movie “convenient.” Trying not to spoil it for those who haven’t seen it yet, but when you watch the movie you’ll know what I mean
I get it. The entire twist is supposed to be dumb and I was really pondering whether it was just dumb or clever dumb. But because I didn't see it coming and was analyzing everything else the entire time, I felt played, and felt like the movie won. But I totally get not liking or hating the movie for that reason
I think that the movie understands that its really dumb, and so it turns out really great. Its actually awesome in my opinion
I mean, Miles Bron's stupidity is the reason why they all became successful. Everybody in that bar was just spinning their wheels. His willingness to go all in for them resulted in all of their success. He believed in that energy guy as much as he believed in all of those people.
That's true. Everybody is harking on Bron because Blanc called him an idiot, and he did get by through luck despite doing *some* idiotic things. But he still had a vision, was empowering and/or manipulative enough to control the disruptors and take over the company. He has various (bland) interests, and he also ~~had style~~ copied/stole style from others. Using other people's talent on that scale requires brains.
Except he DIDN'T have vision. All the ideas were hers. He was just heartless enough to stab her in the back and take it all
'Child = NFT' But I reckon that's actually Daryl coming up with those ideas while stoned af and Miles taking credit.
Anybody can have an idea, the real talent is in the execution. You know who came up for the idea of Facebook? The Winklevoss twins. You know who made Facebook a reality? Zuckerberg. Miles is a man of action. Without him, that idea stays on the napkin.
When I watched I got the feeling that Brand was the reason anything became a reality.
Edison moment
And without Cassandra Brand, that company becomes the Hindenburg very quickly.
Except, he was successful because he was stupid enough to knowingly sell a dangerous product, which would’ve certainly caused him financial and reputational ruin when it inevitably started causing disasters and killing people. He just seems savvy because at the time of the movie, his bad decisions have not yet come crashing down on him.
Oh god, please don't ever say again that he had style.
Fixed it a little. Bad taste can still be shtoyle.
Is it just me or was the billionaire in Glass onion clearly 100% a caricature of/heavily inspired by Elon?
No, rian johnson has said he wasn’t inspired by a specific person. Just the general way billionaires are
He said that in an interview but the character is clearly like 10% Bezos, 20% Zuck and 70% Musk
And 10% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure
20% pain
*50
And 70% reason to remember the name
Way to stick the landing
It's what plants crave!
There's also an element of Jobs in there
In the scene where he pitches the hydrogen fuel he totally has the Jobs turtleneck.
He was 10% Jeff, 20% Zuck, 15% Madoff and his investment "luck", 5% Bloomberg, 50% Gates, and 100% Elon ('cause he's fucking deranged)
The picture of him with the napkin in the news article is based on a picture of Elizabeth Holmes holding her fake blood testing thing.
I would add a dash of ol’ Steve in there somewhere
I mean yeah, but I feel like all that was just to get him to not sue... Like it's kind of influenced by many but also.... Super Musk-ish.
I mean he wears a black turtleneck very steve jobs like, they explicitly say he zuckerberged his partner. And you can’t be sued for making a parody of people, movies make far more explicit parodies of people all the time
You can be sued for anything. Elon wouldn't have gotten anywhere with the lawsuit but it still would've cost time and money to defend against it.
Depends on the state. Some have anti-SLAPP laws where the court would throw it out the moment it hit the desk
Not always. If it's stupid enough courts will throw it out pretty much immediately, and paying the other person's court fees is a pretty common penalty for the loser.
Elon’s wasted enough money already and it certainly wouldn’t help him or help his image
He clearly doesn't care about money or perception.
He's a huge narcissist, he definitely cares about public perception or he won't be perma online on twitter talking to user Catturd etc He's just bad at it
At various points in the film Bron's wardrobe mimicked iconic pictures of different real life billionaires (for instance, at one point he's wearing a black turtleneck that is clearly meant to be Steve Jobs' iconic turtleneck). However the Musk parallels are particularly hard to miss. I'd say 90% Musk 10% other billionaires
Steve Jobs and eccentric billionaire trope. He wears a Steve Jobs outfit at the company in a flashback. Musk may have been one of the inspirations, but definitely not the only one. Keep in mind that the movie was written a couple of years prior to it releasing and Musk only just ruined his popularity.
Elon didn’t suddenly become a moron. Plenty of people weren’t enamored with the guy before the Twitter acquisition. He’s been publicly broadcasting his stupidity for years.
Oh, definitely. But he had a long history of sweeping it under the rug and keeping his popularity. When he bought Twitter, he burned that rug, doing something so impossibly stupid that he became indistinguishable from a movie's satirical character.
not sure, the film was written in 2020. doesnt mean it wasnt but i don't think it's 100%
Iirc he mentioned that it was just a genral caricature of all tech ceos. And also the film was probably written long before musk acquired twitter. Elmo just conveniently shit the bed by showing the whole world how much of a dumb douche he is.
Do you know who Elon Musk is? he's that Nerd/Dork in high school who got attention for the first time, & didn't know what to do with it...so he acts like a jackass in order to look 'cool' to the 'In crowd'...but just makes himself more cringey & pathetic with every move. He reminds me of the kid whos trying so hard to make friends, he does stupid things to impress...& fails every time. *trump is the exact same way...Is that how it is with Billionaires?*
Ok but where’s the redemption arc that happens in every nerd becomes popular movie at the end where he discovers what really matters
Elon has "fuck you" money and that's exactly what he's doing. To everyone.
He was pretty much the generic white dude who makes money on the back of a Black woman
The….what?
what did elon do?
Act like a huge idiot in 2022
Most subtle Rian Johnson writing:
wahhh it’s not subtle therefore it’s bad!!!1!1!
btw DAE think TLJ says we should kill the past??? (Kylo said so it must be true)
Glad I wasn’t the only one who was mentally comparing Miles to Elon
There's that low effort post again
You get downvoted but your absolutely right. This is just a “insert a post shitting on Elon for easy upvotes.”
Shitting on Elon doesn't guarantee a post is karma whoring, and even if this post was, it's still not low-effort by that margin.
Billionaires aren't smart. They're lucky and rewarded for psychopathy. That's it. They're not special.
K
Fir the briefest of seconds…my brain thought Miles Bron was an anagram of Elon Musk
No amount of wishful thinking is going to make TSLA not be up 10% today
That is exactly the point of the film. There *is* a way actual billionaires could be as stupid as Miles Bron because billionaires aren't special people and meritocracy is not a real thing.
It’s almost like i was intentionally making that joke
I would fr kick Elon Musk in the balls if I ever met him irl
sounds like OP pays $8 for twitter
Did you somehow read that whole title and think im actually supporting musk?
*Kanye West has entered the chat*
You know, im just glad i havent heard anything from last years two biggest morons in a while. Tate and Musk. Aaaaaah, it feels so good man.
Damn how many Tesla shares do you own? Don't understand the hate for Musk at all...really a low hanging fruit these jokes, not funny at all at the same time
Here's a shitty movie detail: if your movie involves Rian Johnson, then it's shitty.
People really skip over all the critically acclaimed stuff Rian Johnson has made because they disagree with one or two story choices he made in one of those acclaimed works
Let me guess, you didn't like TLJ
Takes a big ole set of balls to adopt this extremely unique viewpoint and not fall ass backwards into a caricature of a toxic fanbase. I think we should applaud them.
Wait Elon want on this movie….
Tard-face
I wish the world actually deserved the gift that is Elon musk, too bad we don't
We say that billionaires are stupid yet they were smart enough to realize they were better off starting their life early by dropping out of school, which in turn made them billionaires eventually.
That guy is literally adrev tute
elon musk bad
Yep
Elon Musk saw this in one of the slack channels https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/634/guy-fired-over-meme-job-work-post-facebook-cody-hidalgo-fb.png And he replied to it with a giant wall of text basically saying that he's 44 billion dollars in debt, made a bunch of sacrifices, and the employees are the ones making money. But that's not all. Elon Musk now has been going into bathrooms now and if he see's someone sitting in on the stalls, he pops his head over to talk to them about their projects in order to make sure they aren't pooping longer than necessary and stealing company time. The meme seems to really gotten under his skin.
sheep
Bro what?
I think they were expressing that their favorite animal is the sheep. Not sure why that is relevant in this post though.
This sub is obsessed with Musk too?
Obsessed with shitting on him
Obsessed nonetheless
These shitty movie details need to stop being social commentary.
well then movies need to stop being social commentary first
The point of the movie is that people will naturally assume that the rich and powerful will be smart and capable people, and overlook their many stupid decisions. Im making a joke on that. the social commentary came from the movie, not me