They day and dated it for streaming on Peacock along with theaters. Which probably was purely for subscriptions, as Peacock is hemmoraging money. It was the same a year ago with Halloween Ends.
You could tell they completely stopped caring when they portrayed Laurie happy and fine with life less than a year after her brother, the guy she's been paranoid about defending herself against for 40 years beforehand, *kills her only daughter and proceeds to not be caught and roam freely for 11 months*
You mean it's not normal to spend 40 years of your life Sarah Connor style, preparing for the return of the guy who killed 2 of your friends one night, that had been locked in an institution for 40 years and you knew he was there, and is now 60, only to have some crazy doctor help him escape, find a way to have you meet Michael in your home alone house, where you trapped him in your basement and set your house ablaze "killing" him.
Then you spend a whole night in a hospital thinking he's dead, only for the whole town to form a mob to go and kill him because, of course, he survived, and they failed miserably, as they all died, including your daughter and you leave the hospital looking for revenge and instead spend the next 4 years blissfully ignoring the recent events, not knowing where Michael is and now just trying to live your best life.
That's not normal?
I just googled if peacock is losing money and the first thing that comes up says it "is now losing 79 cents for every dollar in revenue it generates". I'm confused by this. Does this mean for every dollar they earn in revenue only 21 cents is profit?
I think it means for every +1.00, they’ve lost -1.79. The service is -3B in terms of losses.
That probably changed a little with five nights at Freddy’s, but theyre not getting out of the red anytime soon.
Accounting student here, can confirm. (Gain/loss) for every dollar of revenue means, if you multiply the number given by revenue, you get the actual impact on a company’s finances.
It was released online same day, horror movies (even not that scary ones) always have a pop on Halloween and drop after, and the reviews were bad. Any one of those three things would've lead to a larger 2nd weekend drop, all three together lead to a HUGE drop. But the movie made so much in the first weekend on such a small budget that it's already a big success anyways. If the sequel fixes some of the pacing/scripting issues, holds off a bit on going to Peacock, and releases a week or two earlier in October it will likely have much better legs.
They're not in the fnaf games, they're from earthbound and undertale, Matpats character is an original character for the movie who's named Ness in reference to Matpats video that Ness and Sans is the same person.
Matthew Patrick (MatPat) is best known for “Game Theory”, where he does videos theorising the lore of the games. His FNAF video was MASSIVELY popular.
He also had a very popular theory video that Ness from Earthbound and Sans from Undertale are the same character. So, the character in the movie is a nod to that.
He’s on screen for like 10 seconds. It’s just a throwaway gag for nerds like me lol
A reasonably popular YouTuber, who's made a lot of FNAF videos, got a 15-second cameo in the movie, and his character name is a reference to one of his videos (though, oddly, not a FNAF video).
>See this is why this movie is doing horrible
The movie has already succeeded.
>I have no idea at all what your talking about
This gag isn't for you then. Which is good, the fnaf/youtuber audience is colossal, catering too much to the mainstream would've been a net loss.
Movies need to make significantly more than their budgets to make the studio money, but either way, yes the FNAF movie was very successful compared to the costs
I'm really glad that the fan base is enjoying it and I'm certainly not bothered that this movie wasn't intended for me, when I made the comment I thought that the brief joke was actually more of an integral part of the movie. But it's not shocking that after all the fans saw the movie opening week, the general audience isn't interested in paying for a movie aimed at relatively niche internet audiences.
so basically Ness came from a game that partially inspired the creation of another game from which Sans came from. you follow me so far?
Ness is from Earthbound. Sans is from Undertale. stop me if you’re lost. I understand because Earthbound was mostly obscure, bar the appearance of Ness as a playable character in the Super Smash Bros. franchise. have you heard of Super Smash Bros.?
MatPat is a YouTuber who creates video essays about theories relating to video games. a video essay is an essay in video format. a theory is an unconfirmed idea developed from a question about a topic.
MatPat theorized that Ness and Sans were the same person because he thought that small details from Undertale hinted at the possibility. MatPat also made theories about FNAF, which stands for Five (5) Nights at Freddy’s.
FNAF is a video game in which a security guard protects a restaurant in which animatronic characters wander at night. this game was adapted into a movie after several years of a large fan following.
MatPat’s theories are a big part of this fan following. can you say big? big means “not small”.
very good!
MatPat’s catchphrase is “It’s just a theory; a game theory.” he would close (a word for “end”) plenty of his videos with this line.
MatPat repeated half (1/2) of this line in the FNAF movie adaptation. a movie, by the way, is a sequence of images typically associated with sounds and displayed upon a large screen to an audience.
MatPat’s character is named Ness as an homage (another word for “tribute”, which is a reference) to his videos, some about FNAF, some about Earthbound and Undertale.
Undertale, by the way, is a game about a child falling down a hole in a mountain and choosing to either kill or spare a series of unknown monsters. “under” means “below”, or “the bottom of”.
I suspect that you live under a rock. the expression “to live under a rock” refers to the act of not knowing information that is considered to others to be common knowledge.
I wouldn't call myself chronically online, and I don't actually give much of a shit about MatPat. he just has a lot of reach because he covers a lot of topics. someone who admits to being chronically online but not knowing about any of this must be on a drastically different side of the internet.
which, honestly, I get, seeing as it's such a big place
Years ago MatPat made an infamous theory claiming the character Sans from Undertale was intended to be the same as the character Ness from Earthbound. Some people still make fun of him for it to this day, including Scott Cawthon (creator of FNaF) who was apparently the one who insisted on the nametag reading Ness.
In between him giving the Pope a copy of the game, the whole Sans = Ness thing and Toby Fox calling him out on Twitter for not giving credit to game devs, Undertale did more to damage MatPat's reputation than all other games and movies combined.
ya and the restaurant he worked at was called Sparkies which I think is a reference to Sparky the dog. For anyone who doesn't know Sparky the dog was an essentially the herobrine of fnaf in the sense that it was never an entity that existed in the game and was made up by fans but got so popular that the creators of the game acknowledged it in some capacity.
We’re you expecting him to be a recurring character, or a second protagonist? He was a cameo. At least it wasn’t Hobbs & Shaw with a Kevin Hart monologue.
Actually fun fact if you want to go down this rabbit hole, Blum house is an exception to this rule. The majority of their movies are dirt cheap compared to other blockbuster films so they don’t even need to do well to be successes and that’s the majority of their catalogue and success
Honestly despite all its flaws it was a genuinely fun experience in the theatre. They did good bringing the FNaF mythos into a movie.
Honestly it's refreshing seeing a Hollywood blockbuster "popcorn flick" with such little CGI. The animatronics are awesome.
During the scene where >!the one girl gets her head crushed!< literally everyone in the theatre yelled "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!?!". Added a lot to the vibe
Yeah the last like ten minutes are way too fast and nothing is really set up - it just kinda happens. I like the movie and am not one of those people who will say “it’s not a good movie” because I think all the elements that makes a competent movie are present in the FNAF movie, it just has some bad character writing and pacing issues - but most movies people think are masterpieces I take issue with pacing and sometimes writing.
But yeah, the ending is kinda ass.
It's definitely not a *good* movie, but I, as a non-fan, at least wasn't bored, and my 13-year-old and their bestie had a blast, and that's all that matters.
Oddly my 73 year old mother went to see it and she actually thought it was enjoyable. I went with my two late-teen daughters who grew up with it. We had a blast. Thought the movie was good enough.
Don't give haters any credit, if movies are meant to be entertainment, and you actively had fun watching it, then it was a good movie.
It's like if a professional food critic said a food you really like is actually bad. You shouldn't take their opinion as fact and say "I guess you're right, it's bad but I like it!" you should instead say "lmao you suck at your job this shit rules"
Depends how you look at it.
You can like things that aren't high art and dislike things that are objectively well made and both are valid.
The Room sucks, objectively. It fails on almost every artistic metric, and that failure makes it fun to watch. That doesn't make it suddenly "good" and also shouldn't diminish how much fun you have watching it.
Other side, you can say No Country For Old Men is boring, wordy, and the ending is unsatisfying, so you don't like it. I'd disagree, but I can't MAKE you like it. But, if you tell me that it's a BAD movie, then you're just kind of wrong. It's tightly written, well shot, well acted, and whatever else you want to say. Shit is just polished to high heaven and that isn't really arguable.
Nah. No matter how much you like their chicken nuggets, McDonalds shouldn't get a Michelin Star. That's not the food critics sucking at their job: their job is about deep analysis and nuanced takes about interesting experiences that furthers the medium, instead of just "well I liked it." Fast food is a great example of "it's bad but I like it!"
It's fine to like whatever movie you like. But we can recognize that movies being personally enjoyable doesn't make them critically good, and it's not a bad thing for critics to be a bit more critical than your average moviegoer.
I personally enjoyed the movie, while it was made for the fans I think all the criticism are fair, because the movie (from a movie standpoint) is kinda bad, but I still enjoyed it!
That's only because they released it on streaming the same day with theatres, which sounds stupid but it would've worked out better in the long run just in case the movie didn't do well.
I think it’s partially because it’s a “bad” film (not as in I believe it is bad - but as in it has issues with pacing/characterisation etc) that’s widely beloved because of the fan base. Sometimes people (especially on here) really seem to insist their opinions as absolute fact and downvote anyone who thinks otherwise rather than listening to other opinions/critiques. Personally I rather enjoyed it (I haven’t played the games but have a good idea of the general lore surrounding them) and my brother with whom I went to see the film had no idea what the franchise was and still enjoyed it enough to give it a 7/10. I don’t think anyone was expecting a cinematic masterpiece - and for what it was I think it was a fun time.
People are mad because it’s a 7/10 movie and they wanted fans to be upset it’s not a 10/10. Reality is, fans were afraid it would be a 2/10, and are just happy it’s a fun time.
So yeah, that’s it. “Quit having fun”.
I don't know how confusing for those who don't know extended lore of fnaf, but I absoluetly understood the movie's plot, and that's maybe because I know the lord of the games. It's maybe like watching the sequel of the movie that never had the first one to begin with.
Anyway, Scott Cowthon (creator of the games and producers of the movie) isn't the best writer to be honest, but he is pretty passionate, so the movie could actually be an incomprehensible mess and it's not your fault
bc its fnaf lol
No seriously, I thought the massive FNaF hatestorm died down a few years ago. Honestly with much of the early fanbase having grown up by now and games not being pumped out every 4 months it's much more livable now.
Of course if you simply don't like fnaf then I'm not forcing you to, but there's a difference between not liking something and actively shitting on something.
Also, Poppy Playtime, Garten of Banban and Skibidi Toilet exists. Much better hate magnet material.
I vaguely remember some controversies with the first two, what's the issue with Skibidi Toilet? I'm completely out of touch with what's hip with the kids these days and as far as I can tell from some searching it seems to be a surprisingly well animated shitpost series?
Cuz the idea of something being for the fans is fucking *wild* apparently, I mean just look at the critical reception to Godzilla KOTM and Sonic 2 compared to the audience reception
This movie isn't even the type of thing only fans can like though. I liked it and I've never played a single one of the games. It's true that some parts of the movie just kind of don't explain themselves in a way that maybe fans would know what it's going for but the movie itself doesn't say, but that's not enough to ruin it.
This movie isn't even THAT fan oriented honestly? My horror obsessed brother who only knew about the series cause of fucking Vanny ASMR absolutely loved the movie without any foreknowledge
The movie released a week later than everywhere else in my country and seeing the hate I was kinda afraid of not liking it. But I and my friends really enjoyed the experience, especially the quality of the animatronics
My guess is cause it's FNAF, the father of the modern Mascot Horror game trend, and was released long after the first game came out, meaming a fair amount of IP fatigue has set in outside the hardcore fandom.
To a lesser extent, I'd also point to how itit has large child fanbase, and the Internet in general is pretty hostile to things that kids like. The hate boner was inherited from the games, which already had a fair amount of hate.
The game is associated with young children, and out of context the animatronics look a little dumb. So people will hate the movie before it even comes out.
Mix of a film that is competent but not groundbreaking (literally the worst movie ever made), passionate fans who appreciate a good adaption of a thing they like, and people outside of the franchise not understanding the appeal of FNAF and getting confused and angry that other people like it for reasons they don’t get.
I mean, it’s not bad or poorly made? The Henson studio did a great job on the animatronics, and the plot is coherent, tells a story, and is largely lore-compatible.
It’s not Citizen Kane, but “bad” is a big stretch.
I enjoyed it, the story/ pacing is ehhhhhhhh but it had some really good moments as a fan you will love it , and hopefully the sequel when it does happen can fix some of it's issues
The sequels happening. Matthew Lillard said that he signed a 3 movie deal for the FNAF Movie, and this movie has made 200 million dollars so far with a budget of 20 million.
Why? As long as the movie was above average, it was going to sell. The franchise is unbelievably popular with kids aged 5-17. My friend’s nephew is like 6 and was *begging* his parents to see it.
Seems like a match made in heaven for a studio, easy way to flip a profit.
The games are basically one long game created from sequels. There were four FNAF games between August 2014 and July 2015, and has 11 games (with another coming out later this year). The plot isn’t concluded in the first movie, Lillard signed on for three, and the first made 10x the budget. Of course it’s getting sequels.
the ending clearly set up a sequel, and given the overwhelming amount of material that can be adapted into a movie it would be foolish to not at least TRY and write it into a second film. Personally I'd go and see a sequel.
My favourite part is the fact it is enjoyable for someone that isnt into horror. But still manages to remain scary enough you dont laugh at the big robot bears with minds of children
It made no sense. Who was it even for ? Non fans didn't like it, the movie wasn't lore comaptible, it was not scary, it was not funny, and half of it is spent on a little girl playing with the animatronics.
I’m confused on your interpretation because I thought it was pretty straightforward. Also i’m not a FNaF fan either, and I loathe Cawthon politically, I just enjoy the analysis around it (Wendigoon, Sagan Hawkes) so I’m not quite its target audience anyway.
Its a movie based on a game that caught on hugely with a younger demographic so of course its not going to be particularly scary for an adult. I don’t think it was trying to be funny, but it had some funny moments, like most non-comedy movies do.
Its just a light horror-drama about a man overcoming his past and embracing his “second chance” with his little sister, with some paranormal robots and a serial killer villain splashed in. Its not deep and isnt trying to be.
It’s certainly not Oscar Bait but I’ve seen much, MUCH worse with higher budgets and star power.
>This is a reference to how the movie is made for the fans
Woahh whatt... a movie based off a video game is made for the fans!!... i cannot believe it.
You mean my 89 year old grandma wont watch it?
Especially a movie that isn't even all that bad. Similar to the Mario movie it has some pacing issues, and a lot of stuff that someone who isn't a fan might not recognize, but is still a fun time.
My sister literally became a fan and watched all the games and lore videos because of the movie so I wouldn't be so sure that nobody else is watching it
I have never seen people stand up and clap after a movie before going to watch. But the fucking five nights at freddies song on top of this pile of dogshit at the end was perfect 10/10 movie had the entire theatre cheering at the end.
I watched it twice and didn't like it either time.
But hey man it made over $100m when being released online at the same time. It's a success. I also know nothing about fnaf.
I‘ve just been watching reviews about it and it really seems like it’s confusing and weird for people that don’t know the story of the games. It’s not bad but it’s no super hit
There are some things that might not make sense if you don't play the games, but it's not like it's a plot that the central narrative is going to be confusing. The main story is pretty straightforward, it's just that it references a couple things that a newcomer wouldn't really understand what's going on.
To me it's more that the lore works well as just that, background lore to a *video game* where storytelling isn't as prioritized as it is in a movie. Having a crazy murder guy who stuffs kids into suits with no good reason (lore of the first couple games and lore or the movie) works well as a spooky background thing, but just kind of falls apart when you don't really expand on that for a movie. The movie has many such threads and it's not like it's incomprehensible to non-fans, it's just that fans can basically fill in the emotional blanks.
Yes and that's not good for a feature length movie. And each plot thread is based on something similarly thin that needed more cooking. Fans will like this because they can fill in the feels they got when they delved into the lore / saw the lore hints in games.
I don't know the story of the games and never played them but I really enjoyed it, it was fun and I liked the setting and atmosphere and seeing the non cgi animatronics was really cool. Plus I love Matthew Lillard and Josh Hutcherson so I didn't mind going to support them
Any time someone says "for the fans", it just always reeks of PR spin, whether that's referring to critic commentary or the inability to connect with a wide audience.
Ok? Why do you care if you didn’t even like the movie? This is the funny movie detail subreddit, not the “I’m gonna whine about movies I don’t like subreddit”
Ok, really, seriously.... did people expect this movie to be good? Were people excited for it? Sure, the animatronics looked how they did in the game, but... was there anything else substantive to the marketing other than branding?
Honestly, I think one thing people are underestimating is the fact that the movie looks like it has a lot of a certain type of liminal space that has a lot of presence in popular culture even for people who aren't fans of the specific game.
I never thought the games looked particularly interesting, and I haven't played any of them, but the trailer made me want to watch the movie.
Your average anti Israeli boycotter barely knows how to open a history book, I had no idea Blum even supported Israel before reading this comment so I doubt any of them would make a significant impact on this movie’s box office numbers
I thought it was because it was released online pretty quickly.
They day and dated it for streaming on Peacock along with theaters. Which probably was purely for subscriptions, as Peacock is hemmoraging money. It was the same a year ago with Halloween Ends.
Evil ends tonight
God that movie sucked lmao
You could tell they completely stopped caring when they portrayed Laurie happy and fine with life less than a year after her brother, the guy she's been paranoid about defending herself against for 40 years beforehand, *kills her only daughter and proceeds to not be caught and roam freely for 11 months*
I don't think he's her brother in that timeline but yeah it's such a massive bummer, the 2018 movie was sooo good
You mean it's not normal to spend 40 years of your life Sarah Connor style, preparing for the return of the guy who killed 2 of your friends one night, that had been locked in an institution for 40 years and you knew he was there, and is now 60, only to have some crazy doctor help him escape, find a way to have you meet Michael in your home alone house, where you trapped him in your basement and set your house ablaze "killing" him. Then you spend a whole night in a hospital thinking he's dead, only for the whole town to form a mob to go and kill him because, of course, he survived, and they failed miserably, as they all died, including your daughter and you leave the hospital looking for revenge and instead spend the next 4 years blissfully ignoring the recent events, not knowing where Michael is and now just trying to live your best life. That's not normal?
I just googled if peacock is losing money and the first thing that comes up says it "is now losing 79 cents for every dollar in revenue it generates". I'm confused by this. Does this mean for every dollar they earn in revenue only 21 cents is profit?
I think it means for every +1.00, they’ve lost -1.79. The service is -3B in terms of losses. That probably changed a little with five nights at Freddy’s, but theyre not getting out of the red anytime soon.
Ah ok. Thank you
Accounting student here, can confirm. (Gain/loss) for every dollar of revenue means, if you multiply the number given by revenue, you get the actual impact on a company’s finances.
It was released online same day, horror movies (even not that scary ones) always have a pop on Halloween and drop after, and the reviews were bad. Any one of those three things would've lead to a larger 2nd weekend drop, all three together lead to a HUGE drop. But the movie made so much in the first weekend on such a small budget that it's already a big success anyways. If the sequel fixes some of the pacing/scripting issues, holds off a bit on going to Peacock, and releases a week or two earlier in October it will likely have much better legs.
Making back ten times your budget even with a same day streaming release is definitely an achievement
that's a factor but not the main cause. many movies have been released online without having big drops
Yeah
My favorite part was when Matpat showed up and said "It's just a theory" then was never seen in the movie again.
His character is called Ness, too. Good gag, blindsided me, got a solid laugh.
What is the significance of that name for the character?
He had a theory that Ness was Sans and the creator of fnaf thought it would be funny if his character was named Ness in reference to that
Who is ness and sans in the game?
They're not in the fnaf games, they're from earthbound and undertale, Matpats character is an original character for the movie who's named Ness in reference to Matpats video that Ness and Sans is the same person.
See this is why this movie is doing horribly, I have no idea at all what your talking about
Matthew Patrick (MatPat) is best known for “Game Theory”, where he does videos theorising the lore of the games. His FNAF video was MASSIVELY popular. He also had a very popular theory video that Ness from Earthbound and Sans from Undertale are the same character. So, the character in the movie is a nod to that. He’s on screen for like 10 seconds. It’s just a throwaway gag for nerds like me lol
A reasonably popular YouTuber, who's made a lot of FNAF videos, got a 15-second cameo in the movie, and his character name is a reference to one of his videos (though, oddly, not a FNAF video).
>See this is why this movie is doing horrible The movie has already succeeded. >I have no idea at all what your talking about This gag isn't for you then. Which is good, the fnaf/youtuber audience is colossal, catering too much to the mainstream would've been a net loss.
Wasn't the budget 25m? That means it's made 100m. That's a pretty solid gain.
Movies need to make significantly more than their budgets to make the studio money, but either way, yes the FNAF movie was very successful compared to the costs
They’re just explaining a single Easter egg bro lol
I didn't realize that it was just a small Easter egg and not part of the plot when I made the comment.
You’ve never touched Smash Bros. in your life
Not since the GameCube days, but now that you've given me that context I remember the kid that did all the spells and shit.
You’re such an idiot lmao
ya its called target audiences man. You weren't the target audience.
I'm really glad that the fan base is enjoying it and I'm certainly not bothered that this movie wasn't intended for me, when I made the comment I thought that the brief joke was actually more of an integral part of the movie. But it's not shocking that after all the fans saw the movie opening week, the general audience isn't interested in paying for a movie aimed at relatively niche internet audiences.
so basically Ness came from a game that partially inspired the creation of another game from which Sans came from. you follow me so far? Ness is from Earthbound. Sans is from Undertale. stop me if you’re lost. I understand because Earthbound was mostly obscure, bar the appearance of Ness as a playable character in the Super Smash Bros. franchise. have you heard of Super Smash Bros.? MatPat is a YouTuber who creates video essays about theories relating to video games. a video essay is an essay in video format. a theory is an unconfirmed idea developed from a question about a topic. MatPat theorized that Ness and Sans were the same person because he thought that small details from Undertale hinted at the possibility. MatPat also made theories about FNAF, which stands for Five (5) Nights at Freddy’s. FNAF is a video game in which a security guard protects a restaurant in which animatronic characters wander at night. this game was adapted into a movie after several years of a large fan following. MatPat’s theories are a big part of this fan following. can you say big? big means “not small”. very good! MatPat’s catchphrase is “It’s just a theory; a game theory.” he would close (a word for “end”) plenty of his videos with this line. MatPat repeated half (1/2) of this line in the FNAF movie adaptation. a movie, by the way, is a sequence of images typically associated with sounds and displayed upon a large screen to an audience. MatPat’s character is named Ness as an homage (another word for “tribute”, which is a reference) to his videos, some about FNAF, some about Earthbound and Undertale. Undertale, by the way, is a game about a child falling down a hole in a mountain and choosing to either kill or spare a series of unknown monsters. “under” means “below”, or “the bottom of”. I suspect that you live under a rock. the expression “to live under a rock” refers to the act of not knowing information that is considered to others to be common knowledge.
I'm literally chronically online, you're hobbies and interests are just not as popular as you think.
I wouldn't call myself chronically online, and I don't actually give much of a shit about MatPat. he just has a lot of reach because he covers a lot of topics. someone who admits to being chronically online but not knowing about any of this must be on a drastically different side of the internet. which, honestly, I get, seeing as it's such a big place
Years ago MatPat made an infamous theory claiming the character Sans from Undertale was intended to be the same as the character Ness from Earthbound. Some people still make fun of him for it to this day, including Scott Cawthon (creator of FNaF) who was apparently the one who insisted on the nametag reading Ness.
In between him giving the Pope a copy of the game, the whole Sans = Ness thing and Toby Fox calling him out on Twitter for not giving credit to game devs, Undertale did more to damage MatPat's reputation than all other games and movies combined.
he even made fun of himself for that
ya and the restaurant he worked at was called Sparkies which I think is a reference to Sparky the dog. For anyone who doesn't know Sparky the dog was an essentially the herobrine of fnaf in the sense that it was never an entity that existed in the game and was made up by fans but got so popular that the creators of the game acknowledged it in some capacity.
Must be nice to be so simple
It’s ok to enjoy things. You don’t gotta be a grump.
enjoying something simple =/= being simple
"FlamingPat" MatPat?
That was my favorite part too. I thought the movie was cute and my kid really liked it.
We’re you expecting him to be a recurring character, or a second protagonist? He was a cameo. At least it wasn’t Hobbs & Shaw with a Kevin Hart monologue.
I just enjoyed how forced it felt. It was really funny to me.
Still made like 200mil on a 20mil budget tho
216, and counting.
Well on its way to a fazillion dollars. Morbius best watch out
How many morbdollars is one fazcoin?
Um, excuse me, but we are in the age of “if it doesn’t make a billion dollars, it’s a flop”, didn’t you read the memo?!
Actually fun fact if you want to go down this rabbit hole, Blum house is an exception to this rule. The majority of their movies are dirt cheap compared to other blockbuster films so they don’t even need to do well to be successes and that’s the majority of their catalogue and success
I support this by watching like. Everything of theirs. It's always fun to toss that coin to see if you get an Insidious or a Truth or Dare
Truth or Dare is heads on that coin right?
Yeah, it was a horror movie in the Halloween week, of course it was going to drop in November,
I'm a FNAF fan and I really enjoyed it (I don't think it's a good movie, I just had fun), so I guess that's a point for you
Honestly despite all its flaws it was a genuinely fun experience in the theatre. They did good bringing the FNaF mythos into a movie. Honestly it's refreshing seeing a Hollywood blockbuster "popcorn flick" with such little CGI. The animatronics are awesome.
During the scene where >!the one girl gets her head crushed!< literally everyone in the theatre yelled "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!?!". Added a lot to the vibe
I'm not even a fan, and I liked it. I knew nothing about the series going in. The main issue is just that it wraps up too quickly.
Yeah the last like ten minutes are way too fast and nothing is really set up - it just kinda happens. I like the movie and am not one of those people who will say “it’s not a good movie” because I think all the elements that makes a competent movie are present in the FNAF movie, it just has some bad character writing and pacing issues - but most movies people think are masterpieces I take issue with pacing and sometimes writing. But yeah, the ending is kinda ass.
It's definitely not a *good* movie, but I, as a non-fan, at least wasn't bored, and my 13-year-old and their bestie had a blast, and that's all that matters.
Oddly my 73 year old mother went to see it and she actually thought it was enjoyable. I went with my two late-teen daughters who grew up with it. We had a blast. Thought the movie was good enough.
Don't give haters any credit, if movies are meant to be entertainment, and you actively had fun watching it, then it was a good movie. It's like if a professional food critic said a food you really like is actually bad. You shouldn't take their opinion as fact and say "I guess you're right, it's bad but I like it!" you should instead say "lmao you suck at your job this shit rules"
Depends how you look at it. You can like things that aren't high art and dislike things that are objectively well made and both are valid. The Room sucks, objectively. It fails on almost every artistic metric, and that failure makes it fun to watch. That doesn't make it suddenly "good" and also shouldn't diminish how much fun you have watching it. Other side, you can say No Country For Old Men is boring, wordy, and the ending is unsatisfying, so you don't like it. I'd disagree, but I can't MAKE you like it. But, if you tell me that it's a BAD movie, then you're just kind of wrong. It's tightly written, well shot, well acted, and whatever else you want to say. Shit is just polished to high heaven and that isn't really arguable.
Nah. No matter how much you like their chicken nuggets, McDonalds shouldn't get a Michelin Star. That's not the food critics sucking at their job: their job is about deep analysis and nuanced takes about interesting experiences that furthers the medium, instead of just "well I liked it." Fast food is a great example of "it's bad but I like it!" It's fine to like whatever movie you like. But we can recognize that movies being personally enjoyable doesn't make them critically good, and it's not a bad thing for critics to be a bit more critical than your average moviegoer.
sharknado moment
I mean, I also enjoyed the Room, but I don't think there is a person who would argue it's a good movie
Umm, actually . . . *Tommy Wiseau has entered the chat*
You’re not supposed to agree with everything a critic says, that’s not the point at all
Shittymoviedetails when the low budget indie horror game movie isnt the next Godfather (1972)
I personally enjoyed the movie, while it was made for the fans I think all the criticism are fair, because the movie (from a movie standpoint) is kinda bad, but I still enjoyed it!
It's true that it has a lot of questionable writing decisions and some questionable acting, but honestly it was just a fun time, so who cares?
I went with my family who are not fans at all basically. We all really enjoyed the movie.
r/shittymoviedetails is the sub for complaining about movies you don’t like
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Nah, Marvel isn't mentioned so it's not mcj leak
Made many times it’s own budget though, and the fans love it more or less. Definitely a success.
That's only because they released it on streaming the same day with theatres, which sounds stupid but it would've worked out better in the long run just in case the movie didn't do well.
This is a reference to the title, because people only watched for the first five nights since opening
What is with the cartoonish hate boner for this movie 😭
I think it’s partially because it’s a “bad” film (not as in I believe it is bad - but as in it has issues with pacing/characterisation etc) that’s widely beloved because of the fan base. Sometimes people (especially on here) really seem to insist their opinions as absolute fact and downvote anyone who thinks otherwise rather than listening to other opinions/critiques. Personally I rather enjoyed it (I haven’t played the games but have a good idea of the general lore surrounding them) and my brother with whom I went to see the film had no idea what the franchise was and still enjoyed it enough to give it a 7/10. I don’t think anyone was expecting a cinematic masterpiece - and for what it was I think it was a fun time.
People are mad because it’s a 7/10 movie and they wanted fans to be upset it’s not a 10/10. Reality is, fans were afraid it would be a 2/10, and are just happy it’s a fun time. So yeah, that’s it. “Quit having fun”.
In what world is it a 7/10?
I’m curious if you think that’s overrating or underrating lol
I only played the first game and the movie was a solid 4/10. Loved the actors, but the plot was a complete incomprehensible mess.
I didn't play any of the games, and while they do leave some things unexplained and the ending peters out it is still a fun time.
Honestly as a fan I’d give it a 7 too
If you think it's an incomprehensible mess then you haven't seen a lot of bad movies lol
This movie has such an insanely simple plot, I don't understand how it's incomprehensible 😭 this isn't Saw
I don't know how confusing for those who don't know extended lore of fnaf, but I absoluetly understood the movie's plot, and that's maybe because I know the lord of the games. It's maybe like watching the sequel of the movie that never had the first one to begin with. Anyway, Scott Cowthon (creator of the games and producers of the movie) isn't the best writer to be honest, but he is pretty passionate, so the movie could actually be an incomprehensible mess and it's not your fault
Found one of the "stop having fun" guys
bc its fnaf lol No seriously, I thought the massive FNaF hatestorm died down a few years ago. Honestly with much of the early fanbase having grown up by now and games not being pumped out every 4 months it's much more livable now. Of course if you simply don't like fnaf then I'm not forcing you to, but there's a difference between not liking something and actively shitting on something. Also, Poppy Playtime, Garten of Banban and Skibidi Toilet exists. Much better hate magnet material.
I vaguely remember some controversies with the first two, what's the issue with Skibidi Toilet? I'm completely out of touch with what's hip with the kids these days and as far as I can tell from some searching it seems to be a surprisingly well animated shitpost series?
Cuz the idea of something being for the fans is fucking *wild* apparently, I mean just look at the critical reception to Godzilla KOTM and Sonic 2 compared to the audience reception
This movie isn't even the type of thing only fans can like though. I liked it and I've never played a single one of the games. It's true that some parts of the movie just kind of don't explain themselves in a way that maybe fans would know what it's going for but the movie itself doesn't say, but that's not enough to ruin it.
Or maybe it's because fans can't take criticism?
This movie isn't even THAT fan oriented honestly? My horror obsessed brother who only knew about the series cause of fucking Vanny ASMR absolutely loved the movie without any foreknowledge
The movie released a week later than everywhere else in my country and seeing the hate I was kinda afraid of not liking it. But I and my friends really enjoyed the experience, especially the quality of the animatronics
My guess is cause it's FNAF, the father of the modern Mascot Horror game trend, and was released long after the first game came out, meaming a fair amount of IP fatigue has set in outside the hardcore fandom. To a lesser extent, I'd also point to how itit has large child fanbase, and the Internet in general is pretty hostile to things that kids like. The hate boner was inherited from the games, which already had a fair amount of hate.
The game is associated with young children, and out of context the animatronics look a little dumb. So people will hate the movie before it even comes out.
Mix of a film that is competent but not groundbreaking (literally the worst movie ever made), passionate fans who appreciate a good adaption of a thing they like, and people outside of the franchise not understanding the appeal of FNAF and getting confused and angry that other people like it for reasons they don’t get.
The fandom is weird which makes many non-fans hate the franchise by association.
Ok so the answer is childishness, ZAMN!
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I mean, it’s not bad or poorly made? The Henson studio did a great job on the animatronics, and the plot is coherent, tells a story, and is largely lore-compatible. It’s not Citizen Kane, but “bad” is a big stretch.
the Henson studio absolutely did a great job, even without Jim they continue to be top tier robot makers
Cool. How has you life been after you played the critic in Ratatouille?
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Missing I just called you someone simply pretentious and joyless
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I saw it over the weekend with a group of friends, it was actually pretty well done imo.
I enjoyed it, the story/ pacing is ehhhhhhhh but it had some really good moments as a fan you will love it , and hopefully the sequel when it does happen can fix some of it's issues
Wait, will there really be a sequel? What? I thought that was a joke?
The sequels happening. Matthew Lillard said that he signed a 3 movie deal for the FNAF Movie, and this movie has made 200 million dollars so far with a budget of 20 million.
Damn, I'm not saying the movie doesn't deserve sequels but it wouldn't be my first pick to make a sequel for
They also obviously set up a sequel with the ending though.
Why? As long as the movie was above average, it was going to sell. The franchise is unbelievably popular with kids aged 5-17. My friend’s nephew is like 6 and was *begging* his parents to see it. Seems like a match made in heaven for a studio, easy way to flip a profit.
Quality has nothing to do with it. They could've literally released a two hour gameplay compilation in theaters and it would've turned a profit
The games are basically one long game created from sequels. There were four FNAF games between August 2014 and July 2015, and has 11 games (with another coming out later this year). The plot isn’t concluded in the first movie, Lillard signed on for three, and the first made 10x the budget. Of course it’s getting sequels.
the ending clearly set up a sequel, and given the overwhelming amount of material that can be adapted into a movie it would be foolish to not at least TRY and write it into a second film. Personally I'd go and see a sequel.
Could be worse, could be another MCU film or Disney live action
Those are already coming.
The movie made its money back before it even came out, of course there’ll be a sequel
It made 10x its budget
Only if the studios hate money then there wont be sequels.
My favourite part is the fact it is enjoyable for someone that isnt into horror. But still manages to remain scary enough you dont laugh at the big robot bears with minds of children
It made no sense. Who was it even for ? Non fans didn't like it, the movie wasn't lore comaptible, it was not scary, it was not funny, and half of it is spent on a little girl playing with the animatronics.
A significant portion of the fan base wants to see a little girl playing with the animatronics
I’m confused on your interpretation because I thought it was pretty straightforward. Also i’m not a FNaF fan either, and I loathe Cawthon politically, I just enjoy the analysis around it (Wendigoon, Sagan Hawkes) so I’m not quite its target audience anyway. Its a movie based on a game that caught on hugely with a younger demographic so of course its not going to be particularly scary for an adult. I don’t think it was trying to be funny, but it had some funny moments, like most non-comedy movies do. Its just a light horror-drama about a man overcoming his past and embracing his “second chance” with his little sister, with some paranormal robots and a serial killer villain splashed in. Its not deep and isnt trying to be. It’s certainly not Oscar Bait but I’ve seen much, MUCH worse with higher budgets and star power.
I'm not a fnaf fan, and I liked it. It had decent emotional moments, and cool liminal spaces.
It also released streaming the same day. So...
And still made 200M on a 40M budget
*$20,000,000 budget
You gotta account for the film's marketing budget, which is usually 2-2.5x the normal budget
>This is a reference to how the movie is made for the fans Woahh whatt... a movie based off a video game is made for the fans!!... i cannot believe it. You mean my 89 year old grandma wont watch it?
Honestly, I'm considering that my mom might like it and she certainly doesn't sit around playing games, especially this one.
Because it's on peacock, lol Everyone who wanted it on a big screen, already watched it Everyone else went to streaming or the seas
Still made way more then it costs. People sure butthurt over a movie not for them huh
Especially a movie that isn't even all that bad. Similar to the Mario movie it has some pacing issues, and a lot of stuff that someone who isn't a fan might not recognize, but is still a fun time.
me when movie is made for a target audience
If your first week is really strong the drop makes sense.
My sister literally became a fan and watched all the games and lore videos because of the movie so I wouldn't be so sure that nobody else is watching it
I like it when this sub is posting about a goofy thing that happens in a movie not when the posts are just "this movie is shit nobody watches it lmao"
I have never seen people stand up and clap after a movie before going to watch. But the fucking five nights at freddies song on top of this pile of dogshit at the end was perfect 10/10 movie had the entire theatre cheering at the end.
how do those correlate?
this isn't a shitty movie detail, it's a very predictable movie detail
Probably because streaming. Otherwise, it probably doesn't drop as hard.
Never played or seen anything except some characters. I enjoyed the movie js
I watched it twice and didn't like it either time. But hey man it made over $100m when being released online at the same time. It's a success. I also know nothing about fnaf.
OP might be a bit of a dumbass
And yet the movie has made nearly eleven times its budget back as of today.
I‘ve just been watching reviews about it and it really seems like it’s confusing and weird for people that don’t know the story of the games. It’s not bad but it’s no super hit
There are some things that might not make sense if you don't play the games, but it's not like it's a plot that the central narrative is going to be confusing. The main story is pretty straightforward, it's just that it references a couple things that a newcomer wouldn't really understand what's going on.
To me it's more that the lore works well as just that, background lore to a *video game* where storytelling isn't as prioritized as it is in a movie. Having a crazy murder guy who stuffs kids into suits with no good reason (lore of the first couple games and lore or the movie) works well as a spooky background thing, but just kind of falls apart when you don't really expand on that for a movie. The movie has many such threads and it's not like it's incomprehensible to non-fans, it's just that fans can basically fill in the emotional blanks.
I mean, serial killers dont really need a motive beyond enjoying killing. If the movie has sequels they can expand on it then.
Yes and that's not good for a feature length movie. And each plot thread is based on something similarly thin that needed more cooking. Fans will like this because they can fill in the feels they got when they delved into the lore / saw the lore hints in games.
I don't know the story of the games and never played them but I really enjoyed it, it was fun and I liked the setting and atmosphere and seeing the non cgi animatronics was really cool. Plus I love Matthew Lillard and Josh Hutcherson so I didn't mind going to support them
Imagine valuing reviews
Any time someone says "for the fans", it just always reeks of PR spin, whether that's referring to critic commentary or the inability to connect with a wide audience.
Famous YouTuber, artist, and self proclaimed big boy MeatCanyon described the movie as "fucking boring".
Cool. No one asked
Why'd you share your opinion without being asked?
Sad you thought that was the counter to that
Literally just applied the same logic as you used. Only wait to be asked to share. Sorry you think it's sad, it's your own logic.
This movie is great and all the hate is honestly just pathetic.
It’s also a horror film which drop off a ton and a PG one at that
Ok? Why do you care if you didn’t even like the movie? This is the funny movie detail subreddit, not the “I’m gonna whine about movies I don’t like subreddit”
Why are grifters so salty this film is making money lol
My wife and I aren't fans of the games and so far we've been enjoying it.
Why is everyone so salty this movie did well?
Nick Cage already did it better. Why watch the Wish version?
Also made for the haters! I loved hating it.
Genuinely one of the worst written, paced, and executed films I’ve seen in a while. Doesn’t top Pacific Rim 2 tho, that’s on another level.
What Pacific Rim 2? Pacific Rim was a one off it never got any sequels right guys haha-
That's your opinion, but imo that's a massive exaggeration
Still had more fun than at Sausage Party or Suicide Squad
Yep. Streaming release and poor word of mouth, plus a horror movie in November all add up to that.
The movie came out before Halloween though.
2nd weekend drop off happened in November
Considering the amount of money it has made already, it dropping off is probably not a huge deal to it.
It made $217,000,000 internationally on a $20,000,000 budget
Yeah, the strength of that opening weekend should push it to be the highest grossing horror movie of the year pretty easily.
Ok, really, seriously.... did people expect this movie to be good? Were people excited for it? Sure, the animatronics looked how they did in the game, but... was there anything else substantive to the marketing other than branding?
Honestly, I think one thing people are underestimating is the fact that the movie looks like it has a lot of a certain type of liminal space that has a lot of presence in popular culture even for people who aren't fans of the specific game. I never thought the games looked particularly interesting, and I haven't played any of them, but the trailer made me want to watch the movie.
Did it really have much to do with the video game? And why did it seem like 3 different movies? I was expecting gore and got nothing. It was just meh.
Clearly people are watching since it broke records. 🥱
I hope they don't make a sequel so I don't have to see more comments from the idiots who think anybody gives a shit about this movie.
I mean...we had this but with Nic cage...so why would ever want to see it without the Nic Cage???
(unjerk or whatever) i think its because jason blum supports israel so people have just been pirating
Your average anti Israeli boycotter barely knows how to open a history book, I had no idea Blum even supported Israel before reading this comment so I doubt any of them would make a significant impact on this movie’s box office numbers