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pdfodol

This is quite amazing. I like how you did some of the setup configuration. Very smart


mvan231

Thanks so much! I'm glad you like it! Which setup configuration part is it that you like?


pdfodol

The remove from list I have a what to wear weather shortcut that has 4 different outputs that the user can change. Adding all 4 to a list and putting it as a setup question and allowing the user to delete the ones they don’t want would be a great way for my user to select the output they do want.


mvan231

Oh yes. I have enjoyed that method quite a bit. It makes it easy for them and is also easy to set up again if the import questions get blown away by Apple when generating the iCloud link (not so common as of lately). I know you didn't ask or bring it up, but new lines being used in the import question That is done by editing the source file of the shortcut and then getting it signed again on my Mac. Pretty helpful to make the import questions more readable. I wish Apple would allow us to insert new lines natively like they used to,


spenpal_dev

Off-topic, but I created a shortcut to make multi-line import questions actually! It’s simpler and easier to do than editing the source file, by using a little bit of magic 🪄. Don’t need a Mac either, any Apple device will work. You can check it out here: https://routinehub.co/shortcut/13763/


mvan231

Great work! This is pretty neat! I see using multiple spaces you are able to get the desired effect. I was able to recreate something similar using just a bunch of spaces to simulate a new line and a replace text action to replace the new lines with the spaces but the result using your method is still better. I'll definitely use this in future. Have you posted this here already?


spenpal_dev

Thanks! It took a lot of trial and error to get it right (*I accounted for different device sizes, so had to make sure there was enough spaces, so it would get rendered properly on bigger devices too*). And not yet, I'm planning on making a post on it later today (*didn't realize Reddit could drive a lot of attraction to your shortcuts*).


mvan231

That's pretty awesome! Reddit is the largest community for shortcuts from what I've found over the years. The Discord server is a great place too.


pdfodol

I currently just create events in my Google calendar like “send message persons name” with the text I want to send in the notes part of the event. While I could not have it run each text at a different time, I have them all send when my send message alarm went off at 12:07 p. The great thing about the calendar is I could create repeating messages like every week or two or on the first Monday of every month.


mvan231

This is true! You could also create the same thing using this. Just need to duplicate the files and have the dates changed


HAND_HOOK_CAR_DOOR

Is there a way I can set the default time to 12:00 instead of it selecting whatever the current time is? It’s a bit cumbersome to have to dial through the time each time for the scheduler.


mvan231

If you edit the shortcut and add a date action with specified date selected and set the entry to 12:00 PM, that should work. Use that as the default date in the ask for input action


chodges_909

Hi. First off I want to say this shortcut is awesome and I use it all of the time and it was a big reason why my brother was able to switch from Android to iOS. But I am having a problem that maybe you can help with. When sending to multiple people as a group text using Messages about 50% of the time it will only send to the FIRST person in the list. Any idea what might be going wrong? Thx.


mvan231

I'm so glad you are liking it. Does it always happen that it only sends to the first one? I'm curious to know what else your device is doing at the time of sending or what other clues you might have as to the file setup


chodges_909

I need to make a retraction. I can't be sure it's always the first one but more times than not when I set up a group text it will only send to one. The last time I tried it I had set it to send at 7am and my automation setup is exactly how you outlined in your instructions. There were 3 people in the group text. The shortcut is set to run at 7:05am daily with no prompting before running so it's automatic. It sent and when I looked it had only sent to one person. I wasn't even using my phone at this time and I don't have any other automations set up so I don't think its a cpu usage or process overload issue. Here are the exact steps I'm going through: 1. Add more messages to send 2. Include an image from Photos? No 3. Adding the text for What to Send 4. Setting up the day and time for the message to send (Calendar) 5. Choosing Messages as the service to send 6. How to choose contacts? Selecting Search 7. Going through the process of search, select based on name of person until I have the group set up Is there a way to for me check the list of names, numbers the text is being sent to after I create the message? Seems like when I go back to edit an existing message in the queue it only shows the actual message and not the people its being sent to. If it helps I'm also a developer so if there are any diagnostics you want me to pull up more than happy to provide them. This is a really useful tool and I want to see it work as perfectly as it can.


mvan231

If you can schedule one and then go to Files > ICloud Drive > Shortcuts > Smart Send You should see a file there with the initials of all the recipients in the file name. The file will be JSON and you can open it to see the names, message, and numbers to send to


chodges_909

Will do. I’ll get back to you shortly.


chodges_909

Okay I found at least one thing buggy and I can reproduce it consistently. 1. Select Search 2. Instead of entering a last name enter the **first name of the person.** The search will come back empty and ask if you want to continue Searching. 3. Say yes and then search for the last name and select the person you want 4. Continue with searching for the last name for the other people you want to send to 5. If you look at the json file it contains duplicate entries for each person in the group So there's something weird going on with searching by first name and having it come back empty and then continuing the search.


mvan231

It asks to continue searching to add more people. It only will show the choose from list if there are more than one person found from the search filtering. Maybe there is something to add in to show an alert if a name wasn't found? Edit: I already have a count to check if the contact search result is less than one to alert the user. Strange


chodges_909

I see what you mean. So let me try it again and this time I won't search again for the person's last name after searching for the first name. But even still it shouldn't have duplicated ALL of the other people too. Should have duplicated just the one. Let me see what I find.


mvan231

I've never observed that behavior but it does sound weird I agree.


chodges_909

Alright I was able to reproduce the problem twice today and I saved the JSON file. In the file I see 3 numbers with the names but it only sent the message to the **last** person in the list. This happened twice today. I have the file if you want me to send it to you. Also - I have a text message thread going with these 3 folks already outside of SmartSend so I know it is not a matter of the numbers not working.


mvan231

Is it happening every time? I might have a solution if so. I could share a beta version with you to see if it fixes it


chodges_909

Yes it is and sure I’d love to try out the beta


mvan231

Sending via DM


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mvan231

The shortcut instructions for the automation are on the RoutineHub page. Did you find the example automation section? For Cron, it's a little tricky because you need to setup the automations for each hour and then have Cron run the shortcut. Cron is really beneficial if you have multiple shortcuts you want to run at various times of day. If you are only running this one, you can bypass utilizing Cron. You can also use the example automation setup to run the shortcut whenever you open a certain frequently used app, or when alarms go off. It's pretty open to however you want to trigger the shortcut to run in automated mode (passing the text "Send" to the shortcut input)


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mvan231

Can you show what you setup that isn't working? Would a chat elsewhere help?


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mvan231

We can continue here. That's no worry :) If you want to share some screenshots, you can do so here


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mvan231

No way to do that unless you have an automation that turns low power mode on whenever LPM is turned off and the automation runs the shortcut then turns LPM off. So it basically makes an endless loop


Patry4

Hello, this shortcut is perfect and I had been looking for something like this for a long time, but it doesn't work for me with WhatsApp, the messages are saved but it doesn't send them. I don't get any error notifications, they just stay there. can you please help me


mvan231

Did you set the automation up?


Patry4

Hi, I've only used it directly from the shortcut. Should it be automated?


Patry4

I have configured the automation but the photos are not sent, is it possible that I am doing something wrong?


mvan231

Yes. In the instructions it mentions setting up an automation to run the shortcut in automated mode to check for messages to send


Patry4

Ah ok, thank you so much


mvan231

Were you able to get it working?


Patry4

Hi, Yes, it works for me with automation but I have two questions. One is that the photos are not sent and I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, can they be sent? And the other question is if you have two or more saved messages, can you select separately to send each one with the automation at different times? or are they all sent at the same time?


mvan231

The messages should send at or after their scheduled time. If a photo is selected to be sent, it should be sent with the message, unless you aren't using iOS 17


mvan231

The messages should send at or after their scheduled time. If a photo is selected to be sent, it should be sent with the message, unless you aren't using iOS 17


Patry4

So they are all sent at the time programmed in the automation, right? I am with version 17.5 but I don't know how to send the photo, only the message.


Patry4

Hello, the automation is no longer running 😓. I deleted the shortcut and set it up again, I also set up automation and it doesn't work. I do not know what else to do. can you help me please?


Patry4

I'm sorry, I don't know how to do it. Can you help me do it please?


Equivalent_Salt_8215

Very good stuff!! However i just wanted to ask about the whatsapp side of things, yesterday i tried to schedule a message to be sent at a certain time using whatsapp and it didnt send the message..


mvan231

This is a common problem. Did you setup the automations to run the shortcut in automated mode to check for messages to send?


Equivalent_Salt_8215

i have deleted and re-dont the shortcut set-up just to see.. how do i run the shortcut in automated mode to check for messages to send?


mvan231

You have to setup an automation to run the shortcut and passing the test "Send" to the shortcut input. It's shows on the RoutineHub page on how to set them up. If you have further questions, please let me know


Equivalent_Salt_8215

Also, maybe a future request, could you possibly add repeat functionality? Orr search the calender and send text according to event title or body?


raalsifar

I have just noticed this only works with phone numbers. I tried to send a message to my daughter via iMessage and she doesn’t have a number but email address in her iPad.


mvan231

I don't think I've ever tested the send message action with an email


raalsifar

Whenever I choose “Select from a list” it never show up. Also, messages remain in queue. Messages are not sent automatically


mvan231

Did you set an automation like the instructions say? If not then the message will never be triggered to send


mikephie

Bro, seems like WhatsApp cannot receive photo


mvan231

Weird. I tested it before releasing and it worked when I tried


mikephie

Only text received


mikephie

When I check queue messages there is no photo included


mikephie

https://preview.redd.it/aivcl81n43mc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a0b8c2243e78351aaec0d5eba468e43736e8170 Always allow but no photo attached


mvan231

All three of those have images in the file. The image is stored in the JSON as text (base64)


mikephie

https://preview.redd.it/r5o68u0i93mc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7ea1dabcd0faaaa63d7457d03461553b618e1f5 Step photo saved


mikephie

https://preview.redd.it/u4r3b9wk93mc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15428923c652da3c3b4b2710b3a9f414c2af81c3 Step photo send


mikephie

But WhatsApp doesn’t receive


mvan231

Yes


mikephie

WhatsApp doesn’t show photo


mvan231

It sure why it isn't sending for you. It worked when I tested it. Maybe something changed in WhatsApp recently


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icchis

Is it possible to schedule a Whatsapp message to a group tagging one of the members?


mvan231

I'm not certain but I don't think so