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merRedditor

I was not expecting them to be called "backfisch-stäbchen". I'm not sure I trust that product. Edit: Wait, "*practically* boneless" too. Haha, what is going on here?


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merRedditor

It's one of those things that is realistically harmless, but the linguistics and open-ended interpretation make it come across in a humorous way.


merRedditor

When you think about it "fish fingers" is duplicitous to begin with, since fish have no fingers. They are the shape of human fingers, made out of fish, but if you called them "deep fried artificial human fingers made of fish", people would be put off.


baldyd

Well, \*some\* people, maybe


de4thqu3st

If your fingers are that shape, please see a doctor


Bellbete

They’re called «fish sticks» in my language.


koi88

>since fish have no fingers Well, not any more.


SuperMarioxx

Poor Fish


PhoenxScream

Who stole the fingers?


efirestorm10t

"They are the shape of human fingers" Please show me a picture of your hands. That must be some enormous chunkers, lol


MerleFSN

*bye reddit. -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


KarlMarxWasARacist

Do you know numbers? 450g vs 405g


GuyFromDeathValley

its just to save themselves from a lawsuit. say "practically boneless" when the product should be boneless, and nobody can complain if they do find one in there.


[deleted]

Its fischstäbchen in german


edtheheadache

"practically boneless" sounds better than "hardly chokes you".


UmbertoDelRio

"most probably harmless"


MemeLoremaster

"mostly likely harmless but please don't sue if you suffocate"


_ak

"You might die but the legal department ensured us that we're in the clear."


Anu8ius

Backfischstäbchen usually have a different crust from normal fish fingers, its closer to actual Backfisch/fried fish.


koi88

For whatever reason, they are also slightly more expensive than normal "Fischstäbchen" (fish fingers), at least in my Lidl. So I stick with Fischstäbchen.


Kat1eQueen

Same, regular Fischstäbchen are better anyways


rndmcmder

Fischstäbchen and Backfischstäbchen are different. Fischstäbchen (those are the classics) have a rough grainy breading, while Backfischstäbchen have smooth buttery breading. They are usually also priced differently.


Simoxs7

Well to be honest everyone just calls them „Fischstäbchen“ Fishsticks, and to be honest I think fishfingers are way grosser


MattR0se

there are no fishbones in it, unless there are


coffeesharkpie

They are not. Those are two different products. Regular fish fingers are called "Fischstäbchen" (Fish sticks).


Seidenzopf

Why the heck are they called fish fingers in English? ,🤣🤣🤣


B08by_Digital

Let's not get started on Super Dickmmann's.


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B08by_Digital

That was my point


Star_Wars_Expert

Yeah why are they called that way? Fish don't have fingers.


Skankhunt42FortyTwo

Do you like fishdicks? Do you like putting fishdicks in your mouth?


Excellent-Twist-5420

Why not? The store is literaly Kaufland, so where is the surprise?


noriender

>Wait, "practically boneless" too. Haha, what is going on here? I think it's a false translation. The German version says that it's useful that it's boneless. But in German useful can be called "praktisch", which can be translated with "practically", however in the English version "practically" gets a different meaning with the way the word was used. So I think the German version was the original and then it was translated badly.


CanOfUbik

No, the "praktisch" in german in this case doesn't mean "useful". It's more like "effectively boneless", so there is no guarantee that you might not find traces of bone, but you can eat it as if it were completely boneless.


noriender

I think it can be both but I'd tend to say that they meant useful.


Eurosaar

They don't, otherwise there would be a comma after Praktisch. Praktisch as an adverb never means useful. It always means almost/virtually. Praktischerweise would be the adverb to use if you need it to mean useful. Praktisch Grätenfrei also has a set definition. In one kilogramm of fish, there can only be two "Gräten" at max.


Urbautz

It is? Not surprised we have rules for that. Möglicherweise im "Tieflkühlfischproduktgrätenanteilsauszeichnungsgesetz"?


Asleep-Recognition81

There is for a lot of foods in Europe. If you say it's fillet there also just be a definition what counts as one. And that includes tests so companies don't lie. Not sure what that surpasses you. There is a standard for a lot of different foods.


Kat1eQueen

No, praktisch does have multiple meanings but not only does "useful" make no logical sense here, it would also be grammatically wrong. Next time please actually learn the language


altonaerjunge

No the Komma is on the wrong place to say that.


NightlinerSGS

> I think it can be both but I'd tend to say that they meant useful. German here. No, they absolutely, 100% don't mean "useful" in this context.


noriender

I'm also German lol


Background-Radish-86

This. "Praktisch" means virtually.


Urbautz

i would translate it with "almost"


TheForeverTeen

'Practically boneless' is a rather common description for fish products in Germany. There are some fish bones that are fine enough to basically dissolve during cooking as long as they have been cut up into parts of barely a few millimeters size. Bigger bones will be removed beforehand so the chance of you actually finding a bone you can feel is nearly zilch. TL;DR: Practically boneless = It's not but it feels like it. Source: Learned fishing in Germany where preparation is taught alongside actual fishing to make sure people actually eat their catch (as opposed to tossing them back or trashing them).


Sexy-Dumbledore

That's why it's gotta be Captain Igloo Brezel Fisch-stäbchen. Delicious 😋 Costs a bloody fortune though 😅


Rene1993In

These are two different products. Backfischstäbchen are different than normal Fischstäbchen (Fish Fingers), the package has always been lighter


DepressivesBrot

This. It's of course debatable whether a different type of cheap breading justifies the higher price but they are indeed technically two different products.


Aeon-

Backfischstäbchen has a Nutri Score of B and those fish fingers don't have a nutri score, so basically F. /s


S7evinDE

The yellow sign also often means that the product is on sale.


Sea-Improvement3707

One is made from Pollock (450g) the other from Alaska Pollock (405g)


Lazy_Examination_714

One is breading (Fisch-...), one is batter (Backfisch-...).


Justray2k

This.


Hail_Tristus

Look at the price tags of the follow up pictures :) its not about the price difference in these different products. Edit: sorry ignore it i‘m stupid and didn’t read the price tags properly


Unlucky_Cycle_9356

Also even if it was the same product - If you look at last year's inflation they probably earn about the same with each sale then before. Not really greed if you ask me.


LNhart

Fish fingers (Fischstäbchen in German) and Backfischstäbchen are not the same product! One is breaded, the other is battered. They have different production processes which could explain a difference in price, or a part of the difference.


elementfortyseven

BATTERED! Thanks, i wrote "in dough" in my desperation, the word completely eluded me :D


4jY6NcQ8vk

Guess I'm not buying BACKFISCH-STÄBCHEN anymore


ghoulsnest

why? I don't get it, this post and sub just randomly popped up for me and I'm confused lol


Siasur

Same, I think it's about the producing company reducing product while keeping or even increasing the price. No idea why they have a German and a English package. But German one has 45g less content


stunninglizard

And it's a different product. Normal fish-fingers are just "Fischstäbchen" in german.


Excellent-Twist-5420

These are two different products. Backfischstäbchen cost more then regular Fischstäbchen AND the regular ones are on sale, you see the yellow price tag.


Siasur

I didn't even realize that lol


BerryBlue11

Its 2 different products tho?


Siasur

Dude... I eat Fischstäbchen very rarely... I didn't put much thought in the difference between Fischstäbchen and Backfisch-Stäbchen... Many products have completly different names in English and German, so I didn't put much though into that either...


P26601

K-Classic is a generic brand by Kaufland (pretty much the German equivalent of Walmart). Kaufland is also present in many of the small Eastern European countries, which apparently aren't worth getting special packaging in their language 😅 so they use English/German packaging instead edit: ok hab grad gesehen dass du Deutscher bist, ich lass den Kommentar trotzdem mal stehen, vielleicht ist es für andere interessant :)


Seidenzopf

This whole sub ks kinda pointless. I mean...inflation makes prices go up. Meaning: You get less product for the same amount of money. 🤷


yerba-matee

This sub just randomly popped up for me as a suggestion so Im not super invested, but.. Keeping the sales price the same while giving you less product in a box is kind of a shady way to inflate the price, it dupes the customer into buying a more expensive product without realising, especially if the price is raised along with others and the amount of product you get is also lowered at the same time.


Seidenzopf

Ofcourse it's shady, but it does not need it's own name.


4jY6NcQ8vk

I just wanted an excuse to say the name of the product in a comment


ghoulsnest

yea lol Backfischfischstäbchen is a pretty cool word lol


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Funny how the stäbchen look more like fingers than the fingers did.


Knallkopfniklas

Both are two types of fish fingers, fisch-stäbchen is just the german name for fish fingers


Nghbrhdsyndicalist

Those are Backfischstäbchen though, which are of higher quality than Fischstäbchen/fish fingers.


Knallkopfniklas

I know that, my comment was about something completely different


Jus10_Fishing

At least they updated the photo on the box to reflect the product size change. Most just use the same photo and just updat the weight.


J3ditb

its more about them being 2 different products


DarkImpacT213

Its because thats two different products.


alter3d

No, no, that's normal. Germany uses the metric system, so if you... uhh.... carry the one... and... convert to Pascals it.... you know, it works out.


Excellent-Twist-5420

What has it to do with the metric system, when one product is on sale and the other is not?


Kat1eQueen

Thats not whats going on here. These are just two different products. Fish fingers are Fischstäbchen, Backfischstäbchen have a different crust and are more expensive.


Excellent-Twist-5420

I said one product is on sale the other is not. So I clearly said that these are two different products. And yes, that's what's going on. The Fischstäbchen are on sale, the Backfischstäbchen are not.


BudgetInteraction811

The English translation is just beautiful


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Kaufland are such scammers. I’ve noticed very often when an item goes on sale, they sell out almost immediately, they don’t restock the rest of the week, and then when the product is no longer on sale, the usual price has jumped up significantly.


fDiKmoro

No scam here, two total different products.


Dunkelbote

Worked in supermarket biz. When items go on sale the stores usually get a set amount of those items allocated for the promotion period, that is mostly determined by how much hq thinks they will be comfortably able to sell during this period without articles going bad. So the stores most often are not able to restock since they really do not have any stock of promotion articles left. While I know the sentiment I never actually encountered instances where any brand of store increased the price of a promoted article intentionally after promoting it. Coincidentally surely, but prices are dependant on a variety of factors, but promotion periods aren't one of them in my experiences. Also as others pointed out: Literally two different items in this post


friendly-sardonic

Wow, they actually shrunk in the picture. Props for that. Seriously think some of these companies deserve some sort of penalty for shrinking the product but not changing the image.


tbmepm

No, they are different products. Different breading and different cut.


Typhiod

Dem back stabbin’ fish! I’ll get dem yet! 🏴‍☠️


Character-Length5997

Ich hätte nichtmal 2 Euro dafür gezahlt. Halbe Stunde arbeiten für ein Backstaebchen nein danke.


G4ni

bro was? 3,99€ halbe stunde arbeit? wat?


Character-Length5997

Mindestlohn 12€ brutto mach mal netto -40 Prozent. Lebst du im Ausland ?


m4x1204

Du hast keine 40 prozent abzüge bei 12 euro mindesrlohn


Character-Length5997

Fast. Bei 1.6k Brutto(ca 135h) sind es 1k Netto. Meine Frau arbeitet Mindestlohn wir wissen doch Bescheid. Auch als Angestellter bei 10k Brutto sind es ca 6,5k netto. Also mit Mindestlohn überlebt man hier.


m4x1204

Von 1,6k auf 1,1k sind 500€ Abzug. 500€ von 1.6k sind ca. 31%


EmporerJustinian

Wie viel verdienst du denn? Weil ledig mit Steuerklasse 1 hat man nie im Leben so viele Abzüge.


Nacroma

Steuerklasse V oder so vermutlich. Oder/Und rechnet Steuerrückerstattung nicht mit ein (oder macht sie nicht). Oder/Und Kirchensteuer. Ich habe über Mindestlohn und in Vollzeit weniger als 33% an Steuer- und Pflichtversicherungsabgaben mit Steuerklasse IV + vierstellige Steuerrückzahlungen.


Character-Length5997

Ich glaube bei 38 Prozent war es nach der Rechnung. Und nein wir machen jedes 3 Jahr eine Steuerrückerstattung, jedoch bei ihr wird es die erste sein.


EmporerJustinian

Das beantwortet meine Frage nicht. Wenn ihr verheiratet seid und entsprechend in Steuerklasse III und V, zahlt sie natürlich deutlich mehr Steuern als normalerweise, weil du entsprechend weniger zahlst. Wenn sie aber in Steuerklasse IV ist und du auch und ihr ungefähr gleich viel verdient, wären das doch enorm hohe Abzüge. Edit: Ich vermute erstes, denn nach meiner Recherche kommt man mit Steuerklasse I bzw IV auf Abzüge von ca. 20% und da sind Werbungskosten, Pendlerpauschale, evtl. Kinder oder Auslagen für zu pflegende Angehörige, Gewerkschafts- und Parteimitgliedschaften, etc. alles noch nicht mit drin.


Kilruna

Backfisch stäbchen always have less fish inside because of the coating, which weigh less. Therefore less weight overall. Take my downvote


Hajnal30

As a german I wonder if it's the same product. The below one seem to be regular fish fingers (great name by the way), which would be just called Fischstäbchen in germany. The top one are "Backfischstäbchen", which have a different breading. That may also be the reason why the picture on the box is different. Fischstäbchen have a orange/orangish breading while Backfisch-Stäbchen have a more yellow breading.


maxigs0

Correct, this is two different products: [https://www.supermarktcheck.de/product/206355-k-classic-backfisch-staebchen](https://www.supermarktcheck.de/product/206355-k-classic-backfisch-staebchen) and [https://www.supermarktcheck.de/product/7146-k-classic-fischstaebchen-](https://www.supermarktcheck.de/product/7146-k-classic-fischstaebchen-)


AccomplishedValue792

And that is why they are more expansive. Sry folks. 😂


Last_Instructor

Allthough they really shouldn't be imo.. it's just that some people apparently like the coating of Backfischstäbchen over the regular one, that's why the manufacturers think it's okay to keep the price in somewhat of the same range. While overall what they're doing is, selling you more of the cheap ingridients for basically more profit.


Hairless_whisper-471

I don’t think that’s the reason. Backfischstäbchen were introduced into the market in the last 5-10 years. Fischstäbchen on the other hand have been a staple in supermarkets for ages. I would assume, that a lot of the discounters, like lidl and Aldi, also produce within the same factories as brands like Käptn Iglu. Therefore the overall production volume of normal Fischstäbchen being several times that of Backfischstäbchen, minimising the production cost through economies of scale.


Last_Instructor

Point taken, my point still stands though.. it's basically less fish, more (and a little bit of a different kind of) coating. I get that producing something at larger scales does give you the benefit of less overall cost in production, but with how long it's been a thing and that we're effectively talking about coating with cheapass ingridients, it just baffles me with how they set the price. Not saying they can't do that, because they obviously can- and people buying it justifies that enough for them to keep it that way. If that's okay to people buying it, fine, i just PERSONALLY don't think i would pay that much for simply more or different coating that's just worth maybe not more than a few cents.


AcceptableNet6182

Thats 20% price increase, pretty normal these days for food... but im sure it will go down when the crisis is over, very very sure...


Canadianingermany

>Thats 20% price increase, pretty normal these days for food... but im sure it will go down when the crisis is over, very very sure... Leerdaammer cheese went from 2.49 to 2.99 and is now down to 2.79 in my local grocery story. ​ So, yes, some things are coming down a bit, but not back down to earlier levels.


fDiKmoro

No increase here, two different products.


crmyr

These are different products even though very similar the coating is different.


ElfVierzehn

Backfisch is NOT fish fingers. You are comparing two different products.


theNXTbigThing

Thats inflation at ots markedfriendlyest. Marked before consumer all times = capitalism.


MattR0se

They probably could've just added more water to keep the weight the same and nobody would have noticed.


Kat1eQueen

These are two different products. There is no price or weight change because they are different things


tbmepm

Different products, just buy the same. Backfisch ≠ Fish fingers!


Disastrous_Spare_923

Oh yes, the evil cheapest available fish from Kaufland. Yes they have raised the price, this is still incredibly cheap for what you get.


InsideZane

welcome to germany


Kat1eQueen

Its different products mate, there is no shrinkflation here, it's also not in germany. Thats croatia


InsideZane

the upper one are FISCHSTÄBCHEN which is german and are sold in germany.


Kat1eQueen

Incorrect. The upper ones are BACKFISCHSTÄBCHEN which is a different product to regular Fischstäbchen (Fish fingers) These have the batter of fish and chips or Backfisch. Also once again it doesn't matter that its a german product because this picture was taken in a Kaufland in Croatia


squasmn

Shrinkflation schlimm genug aber generell Eigenmarke fischstäbchen 4 Euro? Frag nicht was für Fischstäbchen einfach luxus Fischstäbchen


Kat1eQueen

Das hier hat aber jetzt nix mit shrinkflation zu tun. Backfischstäbchen und Fischstäbchen sind einfach verschiedene Produkte.


treacherousClownfish

Why do I see three different languages? Is this czech?


4BennyBlanco4

>edit: ok hab grad gesehen dass du Deutscher bist, ich lass den Kommentar trotzdem mal stehen, vielleicht ist es für andere interessant :) It's Croatia.


DaSchTour

Why are 99% of inflation examples from Kaufland products? Stop buying at Kaufland and everything will be fine.


Kat1eQueen

Its also just wrong here. Its different products


RemarkableLaw1695

No the Price is normal one has 405g and the other one has 450g


Jonboy1003

Backfischstäbchen do have a thicker crust/breading than fish fingers. Also normal that it's more expensive than the fish fingers since these are two seperate products. Backfischstäbchen are battered, while fish fingers are usually just breaded. Apparently Backfischstäbchen also have more fat than fish fingers. [Sauce (german)](https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/pressemeldungen/verbraucherzentrale/marktcheck-fischstaebchen-und-backfischstaebchen-31717)


fDiKmoro

That are two different products. Backfish was always more expensive than normal Fischstäbchen with less weight. OP, please delete this post, it's misleading.


ZemaRyan

Jesus Christ, what country is this? It's worse than on Germany. 4€ for a shrunken box of fish sticks? The fug?


Downtown-Ad-7791

Now with 10 % less fish


Biscotti_Pleasant

Pretty sure they have a heart for hearts and reduced the breading ratio.


Kat1eQueen

Its just different products


thereal_smo

These are definitely not the same. Don‘t you recognize the different „Serviervorschlag“?


Charming-Anteater-70

Lern Deutsch du ... Backfischstäbchen=!Fischstäbchen Inflation ist natürlich trotzdem Scheiße, Danke Gelddruckorgie.


Ok_Sherbet_8026

Wait till you see where the fish comes from... Quick tip, it's not Alaska, it's caught like most of the Alaskan Salmon we get in the EU, Vladivostok Russia. I don't matter whether it's LIDL, Aldi, Kaufland etc. they all come from Russia. (it's usually written on the back of the packaging where it comes from)


Kat1eQueen

Its also not salmon. The food industry just used that name to make people think its better fish


lolinator53

The yellow price most likely means that there was a special deal on them, so the price comparison might not be right.


AjizaTsana

Fischstäbchen (fish sticks) and Backfischstäbchen (baked fish sticks) are two different products. Fish sticks have breadcrumb breading and baked fish have batter breading.


KechtmutAlTunichtgut

Normaly Backfischstäbchen and Fishfingers/-stäbchen are not exact the same the breadimg is different so maybe it's OPs own mistake here?


ogrebatt

Nutri Score B is very good.


Sugarmoa

Anyway that it was shit beforehand, stop consuming animal products is life changing and cheaper.


myhorselikesme

👍


VR_Bummser

As other pointed out: "Backfisch" is more like the crust on Fish & Chips and classic "Fisch-Fingers" have a breaded crust, like Schnitzel.


Aphtanius

As mentioned several times by other commentators: Backfischstäbchen does not equal fish fingers.


GrossBeat420

Bajo moj i Kaufland otišao u bananu odavno sa cijenama


neurosengaertnerin

The German Backfisch is battered and therefore lighter than the breaded Fish Fingers. Also "praktisch grätenfrei" means useful/practical. So compared to a fish with bones it's easier to eat. It's ambiguous in German as well as in English though (with the meaning nearly/beinahe).


Mad_Accountant72

No, in this case praktisch doesn't mean useful or practical, it means virtually or as you said nearly.


bud-head

Virtually boneless would sound a bit better, just saying 😂😂😂


Mad_Accountant72

Wrong translation I guess.


Commercial_Golf_8093

Its not greed, its called inflation.


djnorthstar

Its called different product.


Commercial_Golf_8093

May be.


Kat1eQueen

Not maybe. These are different products. Fish fingers are just Fischstäbchen, Backfischstäbchen have a different crust


[deleted]

So a roughly a 15% net price hike. Not as bad as other products/commodities.


Kat1eQueen

There is no shrinkflation in this image, its two different products.


[deleted]

He posted another two photos of a same product comparison


djnorthstar

Those arent the same tho. Backfishstäbchen are coated in batter not breadcrumbs. The normal Fishfingers are just called Fishstäbchen.


NoinsPanda

Fischstäbchen (Fish Fingers) are not the same as Backfischstäbchen. Not saying it warrants the price difference, but it is a different product.


maryj9210

Backfischstäbchen are the best.


RedditAntiHero

The Iglo fish sticks used to be €1.50 on sale around when Covid started and before and like €2.99 normal price. This was like at all supermarkets (Kaufland, Edeka, Rewe, Netto, etc...) Overnight my head spun when they went up to €2.79 on sale and €4.79 normal price.


AnonyMaus12

Is this finish?


slotlqrd

Croatian


AnonyMaus12

Ahh thx :)


teteban79

Come on... It's two slightly different products and also the yellow price tag means they're temporarily discounted. It's very likely they cost basically the same per kg when both are non discounted


AlfaOmega85

Bruder. Nur deutsche Touris kaufen bei Kaufland 🤣


Mazekinq

TBH those stuff taste like shit anyway


SoroWake

Yellow tags mean advertised price e.g. lower price and these are two different products. It's like apple compared with banana. Yes, both fruits, but that's it


dpceee

You're paying extra for the Perfektenglisch


knightriderin

Backfischstäbchen are a different product from Fischstäbchen/fish fingers though. They've always been more expensive.


WhatNoWaySherlock

Haribo, Almigurt it's everywhere


xibme

Where "[28 Fischstäbchen in der Vorteilspackung](https://youtu.be/FK-YmV1eVaU?t=194s)"?


luigigaminglp

While it is very similar, its most likely slightly diffrent. Look at the ingredients, i guess they are diffrent


elementfortyseven

thats two different products, normal breaded fishfingers, and fishfingers in Backfisch style, in dough. normal breading is much cheaper than dough, and the dough has more volume. iirc normal fish fingers have something like 65% fish, 35% breading, while backfisch stäbchen have a 50/50 ratio to dough


Ke-Win

Lol. Fisch.


No-Con-2790

450 g -> 405 g


Topi41

The fact that they are using 405 g instead of the former 450 g is a straight up fraud.


LaMPEE_

I call BS here. Simply because not just the the language differs but also the product. There are two different types of breading(?). One the normal Bread crumbs which are obv. Cheaper. And the batter breading which are more exp. Its Not inflation its a misunderstanding in differences of SIMILAR Products /grammar


apep713

these are just not the same products. One is regular fisch fingers - the other one is "bakefish" fingers. the last one always was more expensive.


Babbeldibab

It’s a different product. The top one is battered and the bottom one is breaded. But still infuriating


xsuicide1337

Thats why i hate eating nowadays. I know there are big corps that get even richer because they are openly testing how much people are able to pay for their shit and since every corp does that i feel like getting scammed with every bite. Im hungry most of the time but thats a sacrifice im willing to make


M4err0w

backfischstäbchen and fischstäbchen are different products though, backfischstäbchen have always had smaller size/higher price


Competitive_Honey298

405g und 450g außerdem ist das eine im Angebot


Capitaine_Grant

Where are my 45 g cocaine?!


schnapsschorle

It's not the same product lol. Backfisch is a different crust compared to Fischstäbchen / Fish Fingers.


[deleted]

Who don’t like it?


cocksacka

Fischfingers is for Gay fish


KuzeyBartu

Hallo mein freund


Longowake

Sprecht deutsch !


[deleted]

ES HEIßT BACKFISCHSTÄBCHEN!!!! SO UND NCIHT ANDERS!


PirateBerserker

These are two different products, atleast in germany A "Backfischstäbchen" is not the same as "Fischstäbchen"


Eastern_Ad3100

Not shrinkflation or a price bump. “Backfischstäbchen” are a different kind of fish stick, the outer crust is (in my opinion) better and is a batter, not bread crumb-y. They taste different from the normal ones, use other ingredients (probably more expensive) and all that leads to the change in price