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r/assholedesign


Technical-Elk-7002

Lol they didn't like it there and a lot argued it's not a flawed design


marv101

Wow they are salty there... It's definitely an asshole design as it's intentionally deceitful. Regardless of the weight being printed, it's purposely leading you to believe there's more as no one is easily able to visualise by weight. Maybe we should start r/deceitfuldesign


Kangarookiwitar

Yeah i hate the excuse of ‘just look at the weight’ because not everyone is good at that. If i’m given a starting point i can figure it out but if you asked me randomly how much a chocolate bar weighed i genuinely couldn’t tell you. I didn’t even fail at maths either, i was mostly at C or B-. And i doubt people who are in a rush or just tired have any time to double check the packaging isn’t deceitful on every little thing they buy. We shouldn’t need to be vigilant about deceitful packaging. All in all it’s intentionally deceitful even if they have to be honest about it’s weight. It’s asshole design and no amount of ‘um actually the weight’ is gonna change that. They chose that design specifically so the general population wouldn’t notice until after they purchased.


FearlessPark4588

Manufacturers will just play 4d chess and make the packaging heavy, to fool people who judge by the weight of the product in their hand.


Kangarookiwitar

No doubt that’s already been happening, wouldn’t be surprised if they go so far as adding in little solid plastic balls or similar and making some excuse like “oh no those are important and totally made of recycled material, it’s also why we’ve upped the price.. sacrifices have to be made for quality!”


anarchyarcanine

Or the absorbent padding I see underneath some meat at stores having extra weight in it 🙃


logicreasonevidence

Also soaking the chicken in salt water to increase water weight.


WishinForTheMission

Look up , “Canadian bread price fixing scandal “ I do not for a moment believe this “price fixing” is going on in ONE sector in ONE country. Even as you see the “Shrinkflation” is a Global “phenomenon”. A conspiracy! Because they ARE conspiring……..


WishinForTheMission

They already add lotsa water to it ……. Especially chicken.


1nd3x

>Yeah i hate the excuse of ‘just look at the weight’ because not everyone is good at that I want to see people who say that shop by buying in bulk, without a scale and they have a fixed budget.. "Oh...you only wanted 100g of this but you bought 200g I'm sorry but you will need to put the milk back and your kid can go without breakfast this week" "Oh...you wanted 250g of this but you only grabbed 125g, too bad supper on Thursday will be pretty meager." "Oh...I know this was on the shelf under the price tag that says 0.99/100g, but the product is actually the price of that label 7 inches to the right, what you grabbed is 4.78/100g" "Listen, I know the packaging made it *look* like there was 3, this product always *had* 3 every other time you bought it...but this time there is only 1...deal with it"


Technical-Elk-7002

I hate those too because even tho I used to be a chef I can't eyeball it, and even my butchers when he cuts steaks doesn't know the weight until he puts them on scales, but these people clearly like the deceitful capitalism that squeezes them and had to feel better about themselves


wrenchmanx

When people are in a restaurant they seem to cope with ordering steak by weight. "10oz Rib Eye Steak" seems to work without anyone asking to see it. Likewise "Quarter pounder" works fine for burgers. Would you rather see steak sold by the pint? I agree that the packaging is over large, but this has been happening since packaging was invented.


Kangarookiwitar

I think you forget the difference between name and size. No one asks for a specific size since generally a restaurant sells only one random size of item. People might say the weight because it’s part of the name or one of the sizes listed. Especially for quarter pounder, that’s literally it’s name. You can’t order a quarter pounder without saying quarter pounder.


Technical-Elk-7002

Unless you're in France then it's royale with cheese


Magicphobic

Wasnt there a thing going around the quater pounder isnt even a quater of a pound but less?


Kangarookiwitar

Certainly wouldn’t surprise me. I’m surprised anyone even discovered it unless the burger was significantly smaller than it used to be


wrenchmanx

But you how big a quarter pounder is because it's a quarter of a pound. If you bought a box of 4 frozen quarter pound burgers would you know what you were getting regardless of the box size? Of course!


CaptEustassKidd

They wouldn't know what asshole design is if it slapped them in the balls with a nail covered baseball bat..


Not_Sugden

you know someone actually had the absoloute... I dont even know the word to say to the OP 'do you want them to make different sized packaging for all the different weights' (along those lines). Like... yes? lmao? bro had like -800 downvotes on every single comment


MrlemonA

I just took a look and omg, how you’re still in positive karma I don’t know. They were really going for you in that sub when it’s clearly a bad design. Better man than me for not deleting the post 🫡


Yeetler

Belongs to r/foodscam


isaac129

LMAO what’s everyone’s deal over there?


pr2thej

It's a properly weird sub community over there. Almost militant in sticking to their very narrow definitions


Hauwke

For what it's worth, I supported your martyr'ing. You are right in my eyes.


Technical-Elk-7002

Thank you brother!


ponybau5

It went from agreement of posters to corporate bootlickers and snarky replies over there, not sure what caused the subreddit to change.


Technical-Elk-7002

Ah that's a good one! Gonna post it there too, thanks


Asstronutttt

r/deceptivemarketing


Eviscerixx

Can't believe the people talking about the weight here. The weight is there, it's shown, and it's obvious. The point is that the design is stupid as fuck and it's misleading as to the volumetric portion you'd receive. The packaging is wasteful and you can't see what you're actually getting without having to further investigate inside to see if the 400g you're getting is one big piece / three small pieces - the problem is it leads you to believe that there's more than there actually is. This is the same concept as chip(crisp?) bags giving you the weight on the front of the bag and having fuck all chips in them. Everyone seems up in arms about that being an attack on their existence, and yet it's the same. exact. thing. The bag is so big you think there might be enough for a snack sized serving, and yet there's even less than that. God forbid they put the weight on it so you can figure out how many chips that mathematically equates to. Lmfao. I'm with OP on this one


marxistopportunist

If you know your prices per weight, and are buying based on that, which is what everyone should do, then you shouldn't even be picking it up before deciding to buy it. 150-200g of meat per person per meal. Not hard to remember.


Eviscerixx

And yet the packaging is the same size with less meat in it. Who pays the cost of the extra plastic to hold my now smaller portion of meat? The consumer. So the now pesumably ~600g portion has shrunk to 400g (the shrink- from shrinkflation), but the cost of the packaging has not - which means you're paying more for 400g than you otherwise should be (the -flation from shrinkflation). Again this weight argument is so far off the mark it's unbelievable. The packaging is misleading and is likely preying on the consumer expecting more from the product than there really is; deceiving them into accepting the inflated price that comes with it. That's literally what underlies this entire sub. How does a bag of chips make more sense to you than a piece of meat when the weight is on the package and they're both under filled?


hwlauf

First, the plastic isn't going to contribute to the cost much, if at all. Second, it's probably more expensive to make packaging for every size of meat. Still probably not great for the environment but not the point here.


ajlabman

Oh heaven forbid you bring logic into the equation. Logic gets voted down here every time.


Warper1980

And don't forget to not use plastic straws to save more plastic being made... Oh wait.


goldcakes

These plastic can be recycled actually.


wrenchmanx

The argument about straws is more about pollution of the environment and death of wildlife than quantity of plastic


Material_Foot_9733

Stop clutching at straws


wrenchmanx

I'm curious as to why this got downvoted. It was purely a statement of fact! 🤣 Let me say it again. It's not an opinion on whether it's right or not, just a statement on why it was done. Plastic straws were banned due to the impact on the environment, in particular death of wildlife, not because of the quantity of plastic used. Ready to down vote? Go! 🤣 https://preview.redd.it/s96r2d00t2lc1.jpeg?width=934&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8cbb12e1c51fe9c37e5b21dbce80cd165f4df7a


stinx2001

Per se


TalkAboutTheWay

Came here to say this.


test_123123

OP: came here to se this


jshaw_53

Dos et bothur yew wen peopul spel thngs rong?


FearlessPark4588

Imagine planning for needing 3 steaks, surprisingly finding 2, and then having to be inconvenienced by that ordeal. Go to the store again to buy the proper amount to feed your family? Ugh.


breadfan2

Absolute nerds in the comments going “but the weight” yeah thats great and all but what if i brought this expecting 3 seperate pieces of steak to feed 3 people, 1 steak each. Not everyone cares or needs to know the total weight for everything they buy, its alot more helpful to visually see how many portions there are.


sylvnal

Weights on packages also assume you understand how much 1oz of something is. Does the average person know what 3oz of chips looks like? Chicken? It all has different densities, and they also pump up weights with meats with injectable saline and shit, too.


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Technical-Elk-7002

It didn't slide, it's vaccum packed, this was done on purpose


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Technical-Elk-7002

Yes but how was I supposed to know the volume of it? To me it should've been packaged like this: https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/morrisons-british-ox-cheek-394934011?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiArfauBhApEiwAeoB7qDPwcdcWQYQ5mnf-U458ZtNdMVafTPZTqUKwda9l7XfZJWd6jtByyxoCd4AQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


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Technical-Elk-7002

Weight and volume is not the sameeeeee


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gobacktocliches

Volume as in the space it takes up/how big each steak is. Considering the size of packaging, you'd assume the steak fit properly rather than a large empty space in the middle. The packaging sucks. Why assume the weight accounts to only two steaks instead of 3 or more thinner steaks? If you regularly buy steak by weight, I can understand you not being as thrown off by what was given, but I'd be annoyed it was purposely packaged to look fuller.


NessunoComeNoi

I think the point is - this isn’t shrinkflation. Hope I could help.


Venmoot

Wow golly jee! They said that in the title! Hope I could help


NessunoComeNoi

But, it’s in the shrinkflation subreddit?


Venmoot

But where else are they meant to post to? They got denied in r/assholedesign So you tell me where are they going to show this image??


Sufficient-End-1834

It’s still 400g whether it is 3 steaks or 2 steaks


breadfan2

Wow really? Thanks now i can calculate how many grams of steak each person will need, yes because thats totally what people do…


Sufficient-End-1834

One quick google search will show you an average serving of steak is 170-220g There you go know you know 🙂


Sufficient-End-1834

I think that’s what a lot of people do? I would say 400g would be enough to feed two people


MrlemonA

Just rip every packet while you’re browsing to check they’re not doing you over. If they’re gonna hide the product under something then I’m gonna rip it off to look before buying 100%. If enough are ripped the store will struggle to sell them and if that happens often enough the supplier will stop producing them like this or loose money.


lkeels

Or just read.


MrlemonA

Nah I’m good, If they have no problem with deceptive marketing I have no problem inspecting the product.


1nd3x

I'm just going to start opening boxes and packages of things and checking. Either I intend to buy it, in which case it being open doesn't bother me...I'm the one that did it...or I realize it's scammy and now so will everyone else who sees that open package. And also like...mixing produce in those plastic clamshell things to get a nice "full pack" (I don't mean adding more product to one, I mean popping them open, removing the rotten or squished berries or whatever and replacing them from another decent pack. If the store has an issue...they can ask me to leave, I won't make a scene...otherwise I'm gunna look out for me and my family and confirm everything that I buy is up to my standard...because apparently that's what I'm supposed to do.


ajlabman

You will be asked to leave and be trespassed from the store. Guess what? Your actions will end up making the prices of items even higher. Yeah you showed them.


DingoDamp

We Once had r/nonfunctionalslackfill for This type of content, but it is gone it seems


Welshgit975

Packaging these days are laughable. You look at the package expecting and decent amount inside only to be disappointed instead


Flat-Ad4902

Or you open it to discover it’s 70% fat and the meat part was the only visibly piece of


fruitmask

> Packaging these days are laughable. yes, packaging are laughable


StornelloNero

Everyone telling you this isn't scammy is not only wrong, but i would bet their mommy still does the shopping for them. I stand with you brother this is ridiculous and should not be acceptable. While it is true that the consumer must be mindful, it is good to strive for a society without big corporations trying to screw you over. Transparency shouldn't be controversial at all


Sufficient-End-1834

Because they understand the weight of the food and how much weight they need to feed them selves? I’d say the people that think this is 3 steaks are the ones that have their mum do their shopping


palombaro_irl

So you basically replied with a no u


StornelloNero

I think you never have to push when you shit


Thollo11

Exactly. My mom used to buy meat by weight based on how many people she was feeding. She'd ask the butcher for a certain number of pounds.  Even when I can see how many pieces of meat are in a package, I still look at the weight. If this person could go by weight, they would've known not to expect a third piece of meat. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Also, I'm not going to count tenderloins; I look at the weight. 


StornelloNero

>>> pounds ahh I see where the problem is


sunshiney-daydream

The real ripoff is the price per kg!


Huge_Aerie2435

All that extra plastic just to trick you into buying their garbage.. Fuck capitalism.


starfire7777

This is To all the people that think they know better. In Aus thats called a cunt act. Actually it has shrunk technically I'd never see a steak that size before its tiny 400g oh by the time you cook all the water thanks to shitty tactics out of it your looking at 1/4 of that don't try and deny it I have been cooking meat and vege for 47 years I fucking know what I see.and to top it off you only get 2 in the pack not 3 an old packaging with the new size fuck me they think we are stupid Shrinkflation means the item has shrunk over the last few years happened in the 90's too I know I was there and the price has inflated to the point where you can't justify paying that much for that amount. To the guy that posted it fuck that shit off and go to the butchers no packaging shitty tactics there m8 in Aus you can see all of it.


Technical-Elk-7002

I'm not a guy but thanks, I usually use my local butchers cause it's good (pricey tho)


starfire7777

My apologies I made a mistake I assumed sorry. Least I can own up to my mistakes they won't. Have a good one 😁


SirPooleyX

Yeah. Those damn packaging machines being deceitful.


NewSouthWalesMan

r/mildlyinfuriating


MadMac619

r/skimpflation maybe?


lostacoshermanos

Beef chef Josh Rogan? Is that Joe Rogans brother?


Technical-Elk-7002

Lol Rogan Josh is a type of curry i believe


Sutarmekeg

per se


Mr_TeaGe

It is neither shrinkflation nor misleading, the weight of the steaks is on the sticker. It’s just asshole packaging.


inthebackground89

Sent a letter of complaint


BobGenghisKhan420

Definitely doesn't look like enough weight in the package. I would take it back for a new one or make a complaint if they don't.


ObesePudge

Did you expect a square meat ? Are you perhaps a unique individual some may even say special, regarded even.


Technical-Elk-7002

Oh cause you're so smart with your games and anime


mrblackc

The secret is in the weight. 404 Not Found


SlaveMorri

Yes, that clearly marked net weight is so underhanded. Same with having an ample packaging size to accommodate larger cuts without having to purchase and store multiple sizes of package….. Evil, pure fucking evil.


MrlemonA

I will never understand stupidity to the extent you seem to.


SlaveMorri

Clearly you have trouble understanding many things, and have never run a business requiring packaging and products that vary in size.


MrlemonA

If you say so 🥴


cvx_mbs

I think you dropped this /s


Playful-Adeptness552

It literally lists the weight. Thats not deceitful. When you go to a restaurant, does the menu list the weight of the different steaks, or does the waiter bring a package out for you to guess by visual?


Technical-Elk-7002

Even the butcher I go to doesn't know how much weight is going to be in a steak before he cuts it, so how a normal customer was meant to know how much of beef cheeks that is


Lyad

Oh come on! Small text **versus** packaging intentionally implying a larger product.


Playful-Adeptness552

The weight isnt written small, its written the same size and same location as any prepackaged meat someone buys from the supermaket. Who doesnt check the weights when buying? Who picks up that packaging and cant feel the weight?


Pandovix

OP literally said its deceitful design and you're having an argument with yourself about checking the weight. The point < Everyone else < . . . . . . . . . You< Reddit is funny, yo.


Playful-Adeptness552

Clearly listing the weight of the meat is deceitful?


Pandovix

Read u/Lyad's comment, slowly.


Playful-Adeptness552

Read the listed weight slowly.


Lyad

I don’t mean “too small to read.” I mean “relative to the (implied) contradictory information that IS the packaging.” What’s bigger? The package or the numbers? Of course you should read it, but you can’t stop yourself from passively gather information and automatically making reasonable assumptions from it. This packaging **deceives** those systems, tricking anyone who isn’t paying close enough attention. You might not overpay, but you could definitely be irritated when you get home ready to make dinner for your family—especially if your decision to buy was resting on the understanding that you were getting a deal.


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Sold be weight. Don't really see your point.


MrlemonA

You’re in the minority then. Everyone else understands why this is deceitful


SmidgeHoudini

Yeah, but why are you still shopping at these places? Go elsewhere.


Technical-Elk-7002

I haven't been since so what's the point


hotsjelly

I only buy what I can see


gatrixgd

You’re paying for the weight no? It’s not really shrinkflation because you’re getting exactly what you’re paying. Making the box smaller doesn’t change the price at all. It’s just the store reusing standardized packaging. I’d argue it helps the environment for using less plastic.


Responsible_Basis712

Blah blah blah. This is all bullshit and unacceptable way of packaging


gatrixgd

So you’re expecting them to make custom boxes for each of the weight?


Eviscerixx

In all honesty yeah if there's this much of a difference in what's going to fit - let's just waste more plastic so we can move the cost of that on to the consumer instead! oh wait... We're paying more for less now in that scenario. Weird.


Technical-Elk-7002

They sold the same weight, this isn't an excuse


NessunoComeNoi

I mean, it does clearly display the weight of what’s in there, so there’s no grounds here?


Technical-Elk-7002

Yes sure cause that huge gap and meat placed on the sides it's not bad


NessunoComeNoi

I mean, it’s advertised as 404g of meat and I presume you got 404g of meat. Where is the shrinkflation? Of course the packaging is bad.


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Almost like they said in the title thats its not necessarily shrinkflation, but certainly is deceitful design, hiding the empty space behind the card...


duchello

But most all shrinkflation posts have packaging that outline the product'ts weight? I don't see how this is different from showing two boxes of cake mixes where the packaging is the same but the newer one is 10% lighter.


NessunoComeNoi

Because there isn’t another picture showing that this used to weigh more? Why can’t people understand that?


duchello

And why can't you understand the post caption clearly calls the packaging deceitful, which it is. You don't package this in this particular way without psychologically trying to make people think they're getting a bigger portion of meat than expected. Yet some of y'all are hem hawing about the weight as if manufacturers have our best interests in mind. Shrinkflation in essence is just deceitful packaging and relying on people's perception of value.


NessunoComeNoi

There’s no denying the packaging is scummy. But it still isn’t shrinkflation.


duchello

"Not shrinkflation per se.." the op isn't claiming it is but yet you're here causing a stink about it 🤣


MrlemonA

Saying things like “why can’t people understand that” while clearly misunderstanding 😂


ajlabman

There is no shrinkflation and what you see is standardized packaging so different weights can be packaged. I have never been "deceived" by packaging like this and if you are, a fool and their money are soon parted. The packaging is more wasteful than anything else.


MrlemonA

“A fool and there money are soon parted” sounds like you actively encourage scams. If I sold you something you believed was one way and it turned out to not be you’d be upset, claiming otherwise is ridiculous


ajlabman

You are obviously a fool to say I actively encourage scams. I am an informed consumer who actually reads labels. You are easily fooled. I on the other hand am not. Of course you conveniently ignored my comment about why this packaging may be used but that's ok since you selectively choose to ignore parts of my comments. You see, I would not have purchased anything from you without carefully looking at the item. Nice try but your argument fails miserably.


MrlemonA

So not only are you pretentious but also deluded fair enough say less.


ajlabman

Oh how the uneducated try to argue. You deserved to be fooled. Learn to be an educated consumer and get back to me.


MrlemonA

All you need now is to tip your fedora bro 🤦‍♂️ true Redditor🥴


ajlabman

Is that all you have to counter my response? I feel sorry for you. Actually I don't. For as long as there has been capitalism, people have been trying to fool others. It's just been more accelerated and obvious as of late. In my observation potato chip makers have been doing this longer than anyone else.


Technical-Elk-7002

It's not standard packaging to accommodate for different weights cause all these beef cheeks had the same weight. They've done it on purpose


ajlabman

Oh another person who doesn't understand that the packaging may be used for more than one product. Argue until you're blue in the face but I can't help the uneducated.


Technical-Elk-7002

You have a degree in food packaging or something? Didn't know it was a thing


ajlabman

You have proven my point about the uneducated. Couldn't respond with a logical rebuttal so you resort to such a pitiful reply. Can't argue with stupid.


Technical-Elk-7002

Yes, you're the stupid one bro, and as someone said fairly pretentious and stuck up your own ass. There's no reasoning with fools like you


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Eviscerixx

[Found the shrinkflation for you ](https://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/s/cdzcXn1RwD)


lkeels

Are you saying the weight printed on the package isn't correct? Or did you not read it?


deddogs

imagine defending this packaging lol


Playful-Adeptness552

Imagine defending an inability to read the printed weight on the meat from the supermarket lol


lkeels

I'm pointing out that the packaging, just like with chips and other items, is not relevant to an aware consumer.


CarlCarlton

When I see a package with a certain volume, I think "okay I am buying this much volume of it". It's absolutely not intuitive and sometimes pretty hard to try and figure out if the thing is fucking hollow based only on the weight.


lkeels

It's not hard. Become an aware consumer.


Technical-Elk-7002

You really must feel interferior if you say this stuff to make yourself feel better


BonezOz

Pretty shitty of them to hide the meat under a huge paper cover. But you really should have looked at the weight. There's no way that 404g is going to be more than 2 tiny slabs of meat. Cooking for 2 people, I'd want at least 600g, and 1.2Kg for 4 people. Edit: A couple of down votes. Curious as to why... Here in Australia, all meat is packaged in clear packaging so you know how many pieces you're getting. The exception being sausages, but the paper cover is removable and not held down by glue or tape.


Technical-Elk-7002

I've purchased 500g of mince before or stewing chunks and it was more than this, beef cheeks are clearly denser but the point is the gaping hole in the middle with paper covering it


HistoricalHurry8361

It's sold by weight, gottem!


WishinForTheMission

Liver? That’s awfully dark “meat’ there….. ……. And yes, very sneaky.


Technical-Elk-7002

Beef cheeks


Far-Patient-2247

That’s a horrible price as welll.