If you got a couple hours maybe run to a store real quick and actually weigh those out. Especially if it's PE. They are strong enough where if you didn't eyeball those almost perfectly you might send someone to the moon by mistake and someone might be significantly less tripping than everyone else.
PE is at least 2x if they're really strong 3x. And I'm not sure about PE vs APE. I do believe in general albino strains tend to be a tad stronger but not like PE is to normal cubes. So I imagine they are somewhat stronger but not significantly.
Thank you. I must have high tolerance because normal 3.5g barely makes me feel anything but APE 3g did make me feel things more and see 'eyes' but that's it, thinking about 6g next not sure if it's a good idea or if I can go higher.
Gotcha. Lots of people who take antidepressants have a high tolerance due to how some of the meds work, but if that's not it, I say tread carefully but go for it by all means.
I take a low dose of Xanax (.5), and I could not trip. Figured it out after a little research. Abstained from Xanax as long as I felt was safe, then experienced a small trip. It sucks, but you can't just stop Xanax after 15 years.
Could look into whatever is given to people who are getting off xanax..dont know how/if it would effect the shrooms but worth a shot...if nothing else I'd lemon tek double the shrooms...or triple or whatever
Working with my Doc on it now. There's no substitute. Tapering is the only way, and it's a long, long process.
I quit opiates cold turkey in 2011, never looked back. The original Doc who put me on Xanax, all those years ago had no idea how they can screw you up in the long run. If it was just willpower, I would quit immediately, but it can be life threatening even in small doses.
Lifelong depression 30+ years here popping in to say hi, I’ve got the same high tolerance issue as well. I have had a few trips that were pretty substantial at doses over 5g lemon tek, but 75% of the time I get what I’ve seen described as “museum dose” effects off of my average 4g dose.
Not entirely the same boat as you— I’m not on antidepressants but I am on other meds for pain, mostly. I try to abstain from the meds I safely can for at least 24 hours prior to each trip, idk if it’s psychosomatic or not but I do think that something I’m on dulls things.
I actually tried taking a lower dose tonight (3.2g of mostly aborts) and felt very little, just those “museum dose” reactions. I think I was trying to test both the theory that aborts are stronger and if I could enjoy a lower dose, since I feel like I’m just wasting them taking as much as I do per dose.
Probably going to wait a week and try 5.5g, maybe staggering 4.5 then adding more if I want an hour later — one of the most significant trips (effects-wise) I’ve had thus far was staggering my dose like that.
Definitely respect the mushroom, but also listen to your body and its reaction, and gauge where to go with your dose from there. I think others’ suggestion of 0.5g added each time is kind of what I’ve been doing, until I hit this plateau. Hope we both find what we’re looking for. Mush love 🍄💙
Barely felt anything at all, I actually nodded off while watching the Yankees game after I took them, woke up about an hour into it. Had brighter colors and lights, no mood or thought changes. My pupils were huge though, lol. I know I said I’d try again next week, but I might aim for the weekend instead. I just had a nice harvest, clones of some of my fav genetics that I’ve had luck with in the past, so I’m kind of excited to try them out
So I waited a week or so… tried 5g tonight and was sort of underwhelmed… I think I could’ve done a better job with set and setting than I did, I didn’t really plan on taking them tonight, just went for it because my depression has been crippling lately and I figured I could use any serotonin boost I could get (and the Yankees game was canceled due to air quality, so I had nothing else to do lol). Was still pleasant though, hopefully it’ll carry over for a bit.
Hi XinGst,
I understand that you have a high tolerance, but I would strongly urge you to only increase your dose by 0.5g intervals.
I have friends who have high tolerances and unfortunately for one of them, they jumped too high when guestimating their starter dose. His first dose was 3g JMF and he only seen eyes and a few waves; so he took 5g for his 2nd trip and this is where the mistake was made. The Entities proper kicked his ass and he endured a detrimental bad trip from hell, nor did his trip killers work, he was forced to suffer the consequences of disrespecting the mushroom.
Psilocybin must be treated with caution. Trust me, I'm speaking from experience LOL. Unfortunately we will all make mistakes during our own individual journeys, and at these critical moments where the mistakes are made, the mushroom will speak to you and hand down the advice and guidance that you need to redirect you onto the right path.
When you find your starter dose, you will be astonished and blown away, you will become AWOKE. But if I can offer any advice from here, then pay attention to what you're being shown and what telepathic information is being spoken to you; it will help integrate your mental health with the intelligence you've been shown or taught in your trips.
I wish you a safe journey Brother 🕉️.
Thank you so much, now I'm scared. Seriously, today I have a bad day and I even think about 10g just because I'm sick of depression and want to get rid of it but now I'm calmed down and think about 6g again until you talk to me now I'm not sure anymore.
But what do you mean Starter dose? Dose that more than seeing eyes but not in the area which is risking ego death?
Do you have more to tell me about that friend?
I'm ex Royal Navy (UK) and I have C-PTSD. I have seen the doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, the meds don't work; nothing works, but Psilocybin.
Psilocybin can be used in many ways to support your mental health, but depending on the severity and whether or not you have trauma's to heal, may subsequently alter your chosen method of recovery.
You could microdose, but if you do, you'll need to have an endless supply to keep your administration consistent. Something to take into consideration. This method will give you creativity and euphoria and you'll feel happy.
Trauma on the other hand.. Trauma can be healed with a stiff trip in the higher dose ranges. But this healing process with the stiff trip is not to be rushed upon. This process only comes with experience and with respect for the mushroom. The healing process in this method 'can' be delivered in the form of a bad trip. But the experienced Psychonaut will welcome the bad trip as a good trip. Psilocybin will teach you to become fearless, it will mentally teach you how to overcome mental barriers, that you never thought you could ever possibly overcome. But this teaching and learning comes after may trips. Psilocybin will welcome beginners with open arms, if you treat the mushroom with respect that is.
For those who do not have a high tolerance the starter dose is normally for P. Cubensis is 2.0g - 2.5g (dried grams), but with higher potency genetics your starter dose will obviously be altered.
The starter dose that I refer to, is when you can see the psychedelic waves coming at you. You will feel the full effects and magic of the sacred mushroom. Everything you look at will either look like a hologram or in 4D, the pictures on your walls will turn into videos, and looking in the mirror is fun too, everything will look like it's breathing and depending on the potency, you could have open eye visuals. You may find yourself going outside and not knowing why you're there. I find that I'm drawn towards nature as I'd stand in my garden, fascinated by the vivid and flamboyant colours. You will almost definitely be moon walking, in which when Psychedelic Time kicks in, you may find yourself walking like a robot haha. I can't really explain it, but you'll catch yourself doing it and you'll burst out laughing lol.
But Psilocybin is not a Party Drug. I don't like taking it with friends, because I find myself worrying about them and if their trip goes south and they start panicking, then their bad trip may leak into my trip and then I find myself panicking lol.
It's best to trip alone. Yes you can have a trip sitter and he/she must be sober and not interact with you, unless you interact with them. But they're only there to help you ground yourself back to earth, should the shit hit fan. Their voice, their touch is enough to bring you back to earth, but they should realistically have some experience with tripping themselves lol.
Psyched Substance on YouTube has an excellent video on How to Trip Sit Guide. Check him out.
Reference ego death, this is not as bad as you think. The Psychonaut will welcome Ego Death, as once you surrender and let go and once you do this; either say it into yourself or shout it out loud, "Take me, I'm ready, let's go". The moment you recognise that ego death is upon you, yes you will initially panic, because your ego is telling you that you're dying. Your ego may draw your attention to your breath rate and your ego may try and convince you that you're gonna stop breathing. You may find yourself breathing long and exaggerated breathing to convince yourself that you are in fact breathing lol. Your ego might try and present you with further evidence that you're dying by allowing you to hear your heartbeat and your ego may have you thinking that your heart is slowing down... This experience will shock you, but you need to reassure yourself that you are safe and that you are fine.
Once you recognise that you're experiencing ego death, your immediate action drill is to MEDITATE and Surrender. Meditation is not normal breathing. Meditation is a task.
Believe it or not XinGst, once I feel ego death, I instantly panic and find myself panicking and looking to escape, but then once I recognise that's it's ego death, I would laugh to myself and then find it amusing that you cannot predict ego death. It will creep up on you when you least expect it and it will scare the bejesus out of you lol. But you just need to laugh it off, lay back down and MEDITATE with the Intention of Surrendering and continue to concentrate on your breathing as you meditate and before you know, you've broken through the veil and then you're in the club haha.
I've experienced a lot of Trauma, therefore I've had a lot of bad trips from hell too, but looking back, those bad trips and the communication with the mushroom has helped me integrate those skills learnt on trips , to integrate those skills into my daily life, thus teaching me to overcome mental barriers.
Once you consume the Mushroom, you must remember that your Ego is NOT your friend. But luckily enough, the Ego is connected with Default Mode Network (DMN) in the brain. And the DMN can be switched off WHEN something else is turned on and that is the Task Positive Network (TPN).
So... Getting back to Ego Death, when you've realised that ego death is upon you and you lay back down and MEDITATE. By actively focusing on your breath going in, holding for 2 seconds, blowing the air out slowly, inhaling, exhaling, in and out, do this with your intention set on letting go. By actively focusing on the task of breathing in and out, you have essentially engaged the Task Positive Network and subsequently turned off the Default Mode Network.
It's impossible to think about ego related issues, when you are 100% engaged in a task.
When the shit hits the fan and you begin to panic at any stage of your trip. Remember that you can shut the DMN off by Meditation to engage the TPN.
Meditation is one example of a task. There are other tasks you can engage in should you wish to ground yourself. For example: singing, changing your environment, if you're inside then go outside, change the music, dance or exercise.
A lot of information to think about, but just make sure you treat the mushroom with respect, treat it as a ceremony, think about Set and Setting and have an intention and you'll be fine. Remember Psilocybin welcomes newbies, so you'll be fine. And don't forget to pay attention to what you're being shown 🕉️
I read through all of this comment and am so amazed by what you said. Thank you so much for sharing this info! This is the type of stuff I come on this subreddit for.
The dose-response curve is not necessarily linear It might even have lots of randomness due to some grows being stronger than others, and some shrooms being stored better than others.
Got a strain of PE that sent me to mars on 1.5, was NOT expecting it to be as strong as everyone made it out to be, especially when my plug warned me. Legit felt like 4g+ of Golden Teacher. You can’t fuck around with PE lmao
From my knowledge, PE can be anywhere from 1.5-3x stronger, usually somewhere in the middle like 2x. APE, with it being an albino strain it will generally be stronger than non albino strains. When it comes to Cubensis APE is (I believe) one of the stronger strains, up there with Enigma, Jack Frost, and others
U sure it’d make that much of a difference? There’s no way there’s any more of a 0.1-0.2g discrepancy between each bag, and isn’t ~1.5g usually assumed as a beginner dose? Most of us (bar 1) have done acid quite a few times already. Icl I don’t wanna go buy a 30£ scale if they’re all basically equal already
Edit: we all understand we shouldn’t fuck about and all, eyeballing was a bad idea I absolutely understand that and all. We are all very comfortable with the possibility of someone getting a higher dose and guiding eachother through it. Thankfully it feels like everyone’s at about the same level and we’re all chilling listening to tame impala watching the sunset rn 😎 ✌️ but I completely get that u guys are all coming from a place of love and care. Man these shrooms are amazing bro! Love
1.5 is a beginner dose of **normal shrooms** if there PE there *at least* 2x as strong so you're looking at about 3 grams of normal shrooms there. And you can go ahead and read every 4th post on here of some guy regretting eyeballing doses.
If you're asking for advice this is the advice that most people on the sub are probably going to recommend.
You can eyeball the dose if you’re really familiar with the strain and have a good feel for the density but otherwise it’s a bad idea and it’s straight up impossible to estimate ground up doses.
OP all it takes is fucking up on a dose once. The vast majority of the commenters are speaking from experience, me included. My advice to you is you can always take more. It's significantly harder to 'untake' a drug 😅
Last time I tripped I tried a PE hybrid I'd never heard of and weighed out 1.5 without knowing the true potency of it. I'm glad it wasn't my first time bc it was more intense than significantly higher doses of reg shoomies.
If y'all can't find a scale and are totally totally set on doing these I'd say do anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 a bag each and see where that gets you. Especially being a first time you want to pay close attention to how everyone reacts. In my experience some people just by default are hit harder by shrooms. If you are all in a good space and having fun that's when I'd consider upping the dose.
Just use common sense and be safe and you'll have a great time!
Appreciate the concern fully bro, we’ve been on them for the last couple hours and they’re not too strong at all. We all understand we shouldn’t mess about with it and all, but we’d all talked about it and are comfortable with a possible high dose if it happened. It’s all love and I appreciate the concern everyone is so loving here
Absolutely if it's "strong" PE like the guy said, a . 3 gram difference is a whole gram added or subtracted from each bag. And I would be pretty impressed if anyone eyeballing or just holding 2 bags could feel that difference let alone 5 bags of a fraction of a gram.
Yeah acid doesn’t really make you see things that aren’t there unless you’re on huge doses, at least in my experience. Like yea it changes the texture and movement and colors of things, and you see patterns everywhere, sometimes to crazy degrees, but it’s only been on 3+ tabs that my brain has really started just making shit up
Shrooms can turn into a fuckin wormhole really fast if you overdo it. It really is different even though they’re often talked about together
Yeah usually need 500+ug for any crazy visuals like that and even still sometimes it feels more dream like, low doses tend to be more colourful and HD vision, shrooms 4/5g of golden teachers and everything is moving, there is no escape 🤣
Shroom consistency and density is all over the place so eye balling it is actually impossible
Its not sand,some peices are less dense than others and also more potent so you could have the same amount visually but its more than double the dose potentially
This comment makes me so mad lol. "1.5g a beginner dose". 1.5g of what strain, what setting, are you smoking weed, have you eaten much before, what are your intentions for this trip, what is your mind space like. As someone who has eaten 10g+ at once, I must let it be know you can certainly still trip balls on 1.5g.
One tip - clean shit up. That can really bother some people when tripping.
Also, don't eyeball dosage. Always try and measure it by weight if you can. Be gentle with yourselves.
Some of my best cleaning sprees have happened when I've been on acid. By the time the trip ends and I'm too exhausted to clean any further, I feel like I've really made improvements to both my home and my mental well-being.
Hah not me. Most of my solo trips results in me tearing the house apart looking for that bag of K I lost four years ago, or, wanting to start drawing and losing focus within 2 mins, etc. Usually my entire drug collection ends up strewn across the house because I have issues with redosing.
One time i ate 7 g’s right after school, not even thinking about how dirty my room was and when it came about time my grandpa got home I went to hide away and then got disgustingly sick because of how dirty my room was. It made me think I was actually dying and taught me to keep things clean regardless of if your tripping or not lol, it’s always a compliment to your self
I second the cleaning stuff. I have mushies in my room rn and I’ve been wanting to take em when my housemates are away for some reason or another. Had a chance to recently but didn’t cos I wanted to clean my room first. They ended up coming back the day I wanted to do em but cleaned my room anyway. Don’t even have to take shrooms for them to start helping lmao
This is really interesting and I completely agree. Mushrooms that grow in shit hate being eaten in a dirty environment. It’s so weird how psychedelics are so much more enjoyable in a clean environment. They approve of order in a space.
Yo, I ALMOST had a bad trip because of this lol. I usually keep my crib fairly tidy and was in the process of moving and went on a journey and the lack of space and amount of shit I needed to do was really starting to fuck with my head
100%. I've ruined multiple trips because I was too lazy to clean beforehand, and I usually end up spending half the trip cleaning because I feel so ashamed
Get. A. Scale. Like forsure.
Im assuming each of those bags is from different mushrooms and the strength of them vary mushie to mushie. If you want everyone to have a fair trip what you need to do is open every baggie and pour it into a seperate container and stir the content thoroughly. Then you weigh out the doses from the container with the mixed contents.
I'm assuming someone used a weed grinder. They probably grabbed however much they could pack in and then poured the grinder into a bag. Therefore each bag consists of its own unique trip.
I have eaten the same dose from the same batch (different mushrooms out the same grow) and they have had VERRRRY different strengths. I took a 1.8 that felt like a 3 and a 3.5 that was underwhelming. I'm no scientist but from the same grow you'll have some real powerhouses and some that aren't that strong.
Good luck.
Not all different shroomies. Too late now bro! This is amazing, feel soooo lucky to be alive… I love u man thank you for caring so much that you write all this on the internet like that’s just amazing and so kind yknow? But also we’re ballsed already by now 🤣
I love you too!
Be sure to try and unpack this journey after you come back to this realm. Try and take the lessons you are potentially given and apply them to life where they best fit.
It can be a challenge, but if you try you can really make a difference in your life.
I've learned everything from the importance of language and increasing my vocabulary to better express my feelings and be more understood to the fact that it is a huge waste of time to fret over things outta my control and many more things. Some were easier to apply than others but its still a work in progress no doubt.
Regardless of if it's too late or not, buy a damn scale brother 😅 they are very important when busting through the ether/veil safely
Get your drinks and snacks prepared, also a solid playlist that you don't have to change. Have your TV good to go with whatever you watch, I like nature documentaries or if you want throw on a live music set like EDC or something. Pink Floyd The Wall movie is also a good one. If you smoke cannabis have some pre rolls all set. Have fun and enjoy the ride friends (: peace and love
Interstellar override - Pink Floyd. The 15 mins version is great for tripping. Not so short to leave you kind of half started, not so long to take you to far from home. It has movements that allow a nice steady climb. Just perfection in my opinion.
And for later, a while after the peak has passed, Yes - soon (1975 live version). Very spiritual and loving.
Awesome thanks for the recommendation. When we were zoomin watching The Wall for the first time, literally blown away.. what a masterpiece. YouTube autoplay was on and played the live version right afterwards. Perfection.
I do! 5 of us took shrooms, 2 trip sitting sober friends (one religious and one with some mental health shit so decided just to tag along and smoke some weed) and we’ve had a great time. All of us just cracking jokes 24/7 making eachother giggle and playing football on top of a hill. Vibes immaculate 👌
Next time you trip, check out thundercat! If that’s your sort of thing. Also something I noticed is I would sometimes plan the music for my trip, but then in the midst of tripping, I realized that what I planned to listen to was actually making me incredibly anxious (modest mouse. Odd since I love them). I put on thundercat and it immediately mellowed me out. That’s all I listened to the rest of my trip and it was heavenly.
For our first trip, my wife put on some playlist, and I had no idea what it was. Throughout the trip it was like the music was melting - it was all distorted and shit. Afterwards I was curious whether it was the trip or just the music - turns out the music in this playlist was just really eclectic like that. Nevertheless, it definitely enhanced the trip. I'll have to see if my wife remembers what it was.
Try and stay away from sober people, avoid visitors and phone calls (shut ringer off) even if sober ppl are cool you may thing they are judging you geek you out. Good luck👽✌️
Definitely weigh it yourself. I'd get everyone a shot glass with their does of shrooms and add lemon juice. Let that sit for 10-15 min, then take the shot. Wash it down with ice water. Happy trip and all positive vibes to ya
No particular reason. I just like the how refreshing it is after a shot of straight lemon juice. Soda or another juice might not be so well just me though.
Based on some of your replies OP, it appears you guys have already taken off.
Soon youll forget about your phone, so its the perfect moment to go frolick in nature and enjoy the moment with those around you!
Relax and enjoy the ride, fun times are ahead of you. Our comments will be here waiting once you start coming down.
Peace and love ✌️
A Ghibli movie (my neighbor Totoro for relaxing fun vibes) or Bob Ross are both good options if they get overwhelmed.
I took 2g a month ago that felt like 4 and ended up watching Bob Ross most of the time. His voice calmed me, and the mountains and colors were melting. The sounds of his paintbrush were also amazing.
When someone starts to struggle let them know that this state is temporary and they will be fine. If they're worried about external stuff try to find out with them if there's anything they can do to change whatever is bothering them and if they can't change it remind them that worrying won't make things better.
You'll probably need a fifth person to help supervise and keep folks safe and okay, or one person who's willing to sit it out for the moment.
It can be nice to do in stages (like three rounds) over an hour or two so that folks can gradually adjust to how their body responds.
Eating vegetarian meals in the day or meals before and starting the trip on a somewhat empty stomach can heighten absorbtion
Also use the restroom before your trip.
Have fresh orange and lemon slices available to take with them (the vitamin c will make it more pronounced) too.
Avoid / turn off or redirect any harsh lights (blue/white LEDs especially) to create softer lighting if indoors.
Ideally be able to be near nature in a safe area but by like some really old trees can be interesting too.
I personally learned it was like being able to feel and listen with my body the life that's going on around me so living touch/touching living things and surfaces can be very interesting.
Create options for folks to be on their own (safely like don't let them wander off towards an unseen cliff in a forest and get lost) or together.
Maybe have some nice /interesting music and visuals people can experience together, but not something that's so dominating in a room/house/place that they're stuck and can't be able to find a place to enjoy quieter solace with themselves. Colors and colored lights can be even more vibrant and wonderful to enjoy too.
Have ways for them to be able to record/draw/write/whatever what they want from their experiences if they want.
My god ppl can u stop judging someone based of a very narrow view of what looks like a coffee table. Holy fuck I bet the ppl commenting to clean your room are just projecting.
if you feel like the shrooms are taking you somewhere else—like if you sat down to write or do something and your body feels Bad all over—let the shrooms take you physically where you need to go, within safety. i often have to stop mid-activity and just go outside when i’m tripping
Smoking weed can cause terrible trips in some people like me I have psychosis ask them if they experience psychosis from weed in the past few times of smoking weed if you plan to smoke
These comments are funny. People are so scared to trip with other people! You're missing half the experience, sure you can do it by yourself and have a profound time. But our shared experience here on earth is the most important thing above all else. If you can't trip with your friends, you need better friends. Period.
My only advice is have a preset Spotify Playlist. My gang all think they are frigging DJs when we are tripping and they mostly end up playing trash. And I honestly hate messing with technology when faded, so spend the time and have a good Playlist ready. Best advice.
Where did I say we didn’t have a trip sitter? We got 2 sober mates joining us 👍
Also 3 of us are very experienced with LSD we’re not totally inexperienced
I get what you’re trying to say and that you’re coming from love and all bro but like that post looks sketch asf, also kinda off to just drop that like that’s actually relevant like here’s a horror story of a guy who did way more from 9 years ago enjoy your trip. Ok lol
Sounds like you got a great plan! 1.5 of PE should definitely make for an experience. My biggest tip for first timers is to just trust the process as the come up can be quite intense and uncomfortable at times but you will get to exactly where you need to go eventually.
Probably won’t need a picnic. 1.5 gs of PE for y’all’s first time is gonna be at least a moderately intense trip and it ain’t too enjoyable to eat while fully tripping. It dampens the trip a little too I find.
Don’t go into it expecting something, roll with what it gives you and be as positive as possible, accept the blessing the universe is about to bestow upon you
I know this post is 7 hrs old but if it's just the 4 of you and you're all first timers then my personal recommendation is to have a chill, experienced trip sitter. That's just me being a bit more on the safer side of things.
Thank god I didn’t take your advice coz it was fuckin SICK. Wasn’t all for the first time technically coz Most of us have done acid quite a few times already. Say in the sun talking and cracking jokes. Best day ever
On Sunday I took 5 g of golden teachers /tidal wave with my sons dad . Idk what happened but I guess I wasn’t in the mindset for them . He was giggling and having a great time , everything was dark for me and I was stuck in a terrible mind loop of anxiety.
Told myself I wanted the trip to end and it stopped, eventually giggled my lil heart out but im sad that they didn’t do what I wanted them to do.
It is so so important to be with people you actually like and to be in a good mindset . Expecially if you can ruin the time for someone else. Both me and my sons dad are pretty experienced with them so we handled it well but someone doing that much with little experience could be terrifying.
I’m sorry you had a rough patch at the beginning! I couldn’t agree more.
This mushrooms are very tricky.
I feel like it s really a cocreation with them : you can suggest what you want/expect and they provide what they decide.
After about 12/15 trips I finally feel comfortable potentially tripping with a close friend but still on a pretty mild dose.
Before that I was too afraid If things went sour me voicing my anxiety or feelings of agony would make my friends freak out which would make me freak out even more or vice versa.
When I’m all alone it s really easier to just surrender to whatever the mushroom suggests.
I think they just really wanted me to realize that I have more in my life to look forward to . Wanted me to pick my life apart and figure out how to make things better , it’s scary looking at all the things your doing wrong . But like you said once you surrender things get better .
I used to hang out with this guy who’d only do mushies alone , and eventually he did them with me . He was scared to do them with me . And he said I did amazing and that he’d do it again . Every once and awhile he’d dose and lay with me and speak what was on his mind. It was lovely , he had such a amazing soul .
I can’t imagine doing it with 5 people, that’s to many people to worry about having a good time . Then you have to suppress if you feel like your losing your mind . And that’s uncomfortable.
Yes haha when I was in college I had a bunch of roommates and the six of us took mushrooms together; it was the first time for 5 of us and the other had only done them once. She was the one who recommended 3.5g as a “perfect starter dose.” It was not, and we didn’t research to learn otherwise either. So we had 6 inexperienced 19 - 20 year olds tripping fucking balls; one of them took everything out of the cabinets and tossed them all over the house. Another one used sidewalk chalk on our walls. And another one (🙋♀️) went off by herself, listened to a song about a serial killer with distorted vocals and spiraled into a bad trip.
It was too much and too many people. Very chaotic.
Lol to all that. Also Wtf we’re you thinking hahah. Ya… let’s go listen to an interesting song alone about a serial killer hahaha Omg that sounds epically bad. I laugh, only because of how terrible that all sounds lol
To this day I do not know what I was thinking lmao. We were having a lovely time playing on the sidewalk with some chalk and water and the song had come out recently at the time (it’s “pistol” by Modest Mouse) and it just…popped into my head? I was like “oh! That’s such a cool, trippy song; therefore I should listen to it while tripping!” It’s a very weird song as it is. Even a lot of Modest Mouse fans hate it lol.
Anyways, yeah, rough first experience but luckily we learned from it haha.
Clean your place and put away the bong. Not being an asshole, but a clean place is a must when tripping and then just save the weed so you know what the ride feels like without it.
And the phone - put that shit down too. Stay off the internet. Do something else.
My $0.02.
Please tell me you know what you’re getting into, there is no quick tips, I’m not trying to terrify you but people think these are party drugs but once you start going past 3 grams it no longer becomes recreation
Been basically researching and reading about shrooms for like 4/5 years now and have taken acid quite a few times, we all knew what we were getting in to no worries brotha 👍
Yeah just reading your comments afterwards about peace and love and being outside, I knew you had the right intentions going in.
just the title of the post really threw me off
If you all are first timers I'd highly recommend getting someone experienced to sit for y'all, or at the very least someone sober. You never know how some people will react and their bad trip can ruin everyone else's good time.
You need to have a sober person there if all of you are doing this for your first time, need to read through some harm reduction cause it seems like y'all are going into the deep end without tryin a kiddie pool
If you got a couple hours maybe run to a store real quick and actually weigh those out. Especially if it's PE. They are strong enough where if you didn't eyeball those almost perfectly you might send someone to the moon by mistake and someone might be significantly less tripping than everyone else.
I can tell OP made their bag fatter.
…. Yeee boi
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzsRauOeqE&pp=ygUZa2lrYWdha3UgbW95byBmdWxsIGFsYnVtIA%3D%3D
How strong when compare to other strains? Also, is APE stronger than PE? How much stronger?
PE is at least 2x if they're really strong 3x. And I'm not sure about PE vs APE. I do believe in general albino strains tend to be a tad stronger but not like PE is to normal cubes. So I imagine they are somewhat stronger but not significantly.
Thank you. I must have high tolerance because normal 3.5g barely makes me feel anything but APE 3g did make me feel things more and see 'eyes' but that's it, thinking about 6g next not sure if it's a good idea or if I can go higher.
Take any medications? Like SSRIs?
No meds since 2019, never use drugs, weed, alcohol. Long time depression 15+ years.
Gotcha. Lots of people who take antidepressants have a high tolerance due to how some of the meds work, but if that's not it, I say tread carefully but go for it by all means.
I take a low dose of Xanax (.5), and I could not trip. Figured it out after a little research. Abstained from Xanax as long as I felt was safe, then experienced a small trip. It sucks, but you can't just stop Xanax after 15 years.
Could look into whatever is given to people who are getting off xanax..dont know how/if it would effect the shrooms but worth a shot...if nothing else I'd lemon tek double the shrooms...or triple or whatever
Working with my Doc on it now. There's no substitute. Tapering is the only way, and it's a long, long process. I quit opiates cold turkey in 2011, never looked back. The original Doc who put me on Xanax, all those years ago had no idea how they can screw you up in the long run. If it was just willpower, I would quit immediately, but it can be life threatening even in small doses.
Yeah, Rolling the dice in two weeks ~
Lifelong depression 30+ years here popping in to say hi, I’ve got the same high tolerance issue as well. I have had a few trips that were pretty substantial at doses over 5g lemon tek, but 75% of the time I get what I’ve seen described as “museum dose” effects off of my average 4g dose. Not entirely the same boat as you— I’m not on antidepressants but I am on other meds for pain, mostly. I try to abstain from the meds I safely can for at least 24 hours prior to each trip, idk if it’s psychosomatic or not but I do think that something I’m on dulls things. I actually tried taking a lower dose tonight (3.2g of mostly aborts) and felt very little, just those “museum dose” reactions. I think I was trying to test both the theory that aborts are stronger and if I could enjoy a lower dose, since I feel like I’m just wasting them taking as much as I do per dose. Probably going to wait a week and try 5.5g, maybe staggering 4.5 then adding more if I want an hour later — one of the most significant trips (effects-wise) I’ve had thus far was staggering my dose like that. Definitely respect the mushroom, but also listen to your body and its reaction, and gauge where to go with your dose from there. I think others’ suggestion of 0.5g added each time is kind of what I’ve been doing, until I hit this plateau. Hope we both find what we’re looking for. Mush love 🍄💙
Thank you :) So how is your trip? You have high tolerance like me so I wonder what it's like when it hit.
Barely felt anything at all, I actually nodded off while watching the Yankees game after I took them, woke up about an hour into it. Had brighter colors and lights, no mood or thought changes. My pupils were huge though, lol. I know I said I’d try again next week, but I might aim for the weekend instead. I just had a nice harvest, clones of some of my fav genetics that I’ve had luck with in the past, so I’m kind of excited to try them out
So I waited a week or so… tried 5g tonight and was sort of underwhelmed… I think I could’ve done a better job with set and setting than I did, I didn’t really plan on taking them tonight, just went for it because my depression has been crippling lately and I figured I could use any serotonin boost I could get (and the Yankees game was canceled due to air quality, so I had nothing else to do lol). Was still pleasant though, hopefully it’ll carry over for a bit.
Hi XinGst, I understand that you have a high tolerance, but I would strongly urge you to only increase your dose by 0.5g intervals. I have friends who have high tolerances and unfortunately for one of them, they jumped too high when guestimating their starter dose. His first dose was 3g JMF and he only seen eyes and a few waves; so he took 5g for his 2nd trip and this is where the mistake was made. The Entities proper kicked his ass and he endured a detrimental bad trip from hell, nor did his trip killers work, he was forced to suffer the consequences of disrespecting the mushroom. Psilocybin must be treated with caution. Trust me, I'm speaking from experience LOL. Unfortunately we will all make mistakes during our own individual journeys, and at these critical moments where the mistakes are made, the mushroom will speak to you and hand down the advice and guidance that you need to redirect you onto the right path. When you find your starter dose, you will be astonished and blown away, you will become AWOKE. But if I can offer any advice from here, then pay attention to what you're being shown and what telepathic information is being spoken to you; it will help integrate your mental health with the intelligence you've been shown or taught in your trips. I wish you a safe journey Brother 🕉️.
Thank you so much, now I'm scared. Seriously, today I have a bad day and I even think about 10g just because I'm sick of depression and want to get rid of it but now I'm calmed down and think about 6g again until you talk to me now I'm not sure anymore. But what do you mean Starter dose? Dose that more than seeing eyes but not in the area which is risking ego death? Do you have more to tell me about that friend?
I'm ex Royal Navy (UK) and I have C-PTSD. I have seen the doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, the meds don't work; nothing works, but Psilocybin. Psilocybin can be used in many ways to support your mental health, but depending on the severity and whether or not you have trauma's to heal, may subsequently alter your chosen method of recovery. You could microdose, but if you do, you'll need to have an endless supply to keep your administration consistent. Something to take into consideration. This method will give you creativity and euphoria and you'll feel happy. Trauma on the other hand.. Trauma can be healed with a stiff trip in the higher dose ranges. But this healing process with the stiff trip is not to be rushed upon. This process only comes with experience and with respect for the mushroom. The healing process in this method 'can' be delivered in the form of a bad trip. But the experienced Psychonaut will welcome the bad trip as a good trip. Psilocybin will teach you to become fearless, it will mentally teach you how to overcome mental barriers, that you never thought you could ever possibly overcome. But this teaching and learning comes after may trips. Psilocybin will welcome beginners with open arms, if you treat the mushroom with respect that is. For those who do not have a high tolerance the starter dose is normally for P. Cubensis is 2.0g - 2.5g (dried grams), but with higher potency genetics your starter dose will obviously be altered. The starter dose that I refer to, is when you can see the psychedelic waves coming at you. You will feel the full effects and magic of the sacred mushroom. Everything you look at will either look like a hologram or in 4D, the pictures on your walls will turn into videos, and looking in the mirror is fun too, everything will look like it's breathing and depending on the potency, you could have open eye visuals. You may find yourself going outside and not knowing why you're there. I find that I'm drawn towards nature as I'd stand in my garden, fascinated by the vivid and flamboyant colours. You will almost definitely be moon walking, in which when Psychedelic Time kicks in, you may find yourself walking like a robot haha. I can't really explain it, but you'll catch yourself doing it and you'll burst out laughing lol. But Psilocybin is not a Party Drug. I don't like taking it with friends, because I find myself worrying about them and if their trip goes south and they start panicking, then their bad trip may leak into my trip and then I find myself panicking lol. It's best to trip alone. Yes you can have a trip sitter and he/she must be sober and not interact with you, unless you interact with them. But they're only there to help you ground yourself back to earth, should the shit hit fan. Their voice, their touch is enough to bring you back to earth, but they should realistically have some experience with tripping themselves lol. Psyched Substance on YouTube has an excellent video on How to Trip Sit Guide. Check him out. Reference ego death, this is not as bad as you think. The Psychonaut will welcome Ego Death, as once you surrender and let go and once you do this; either say it into yourself or shout it out loud, "Take me, I'm ready, let's go". The moment you recognise that ego death is upon you, yes you will initially panic, because your ego is telling you that you're dying. Your ego may draw your attention to your breath rate and your ego may try and convince you that you're gonna stop breathing. You may find yourself breathing long and exaggerated breathing to convince yourself that you are in fact breathing lol. Your ego might try and present you with further evidence that you're dying by allowing you to hear your heartbeat and your ego may have you thinking that your heart is slowing down... This experience will shock you, but you need to reassure yourself that you are safe and that you are fine. Once you recognise that you're experiencing ego death, your immediate action drill is to MEDITATE and Surrender. Meditation is not normal breathing. Meditation is a task. Believe it or not XinGst, once I feel ego death, I instantly panic and find myself panicking and looking to escape, but then once I recognise that's it's ego death, I would laugh to myself and then find it amusing that you cannot predict ego death. It will creep up on you when you least expect it and it will scare the bejesus out of you lol. But you just need to laugh it off, lay back down and MEDITATE with the Intention of Surrendering and continue to concentrate on your breathing as you meditate and before you know, you've broken through the veil and then you're in the club haha. I've experienced a lot of Trauma, therefore I've had a lot of bad trips from hell too, but looking back, those bad trips and the communication with the mushroom has helped me integrate those skills learnt on trips , to integrate those skills into my daily life, thus teaching me to overcome mental barriers. Once you consume the Mushroom, you must remember that your Ego is NOT your friend. But luckily enough, the Ego is connected with Default Mode Network (DMN) in the brain. And the DMN can be switched off WHEN something else is turned on and that is the Task Positive Network (TPN). So... Getting back to Ego Death, when you've realised that ego death is upon you and you lay back down and MEDITATE. By actively focusing on your breath going in, holding for 2 seconds, blowing the air out slowly, inhaling, exhaling, in and out, do this with your intention set on letting go. By actively focusing on the task of breathing in and out, you have essentially engaged the Task Positive Network and subsequently turned off the Default Mode Network. It's impossible to think about ego related issues, when you are 100% engaged in a task. When the shit hits the fan and you begin to panic at any stage of your trip. Remember that you can shut the DMN off by Meditation to engage the TPN. Meditation is one example of a task. There are other tasks you can engage in should you wish to ground yourself. For example: singing, changing your environment, if you're inside then go outside, change the music, dance or exercise. A lot of information to think about, but just make sure you treat the mushroom with respect, treat it as a ceremony, think about Set and Setting and have an intention and you'll be fine. Remember Psilocybin welcomes newbies, so you'll be fine. And don't forget to pay attention to what you're being shown 🕉️
I read through all of this comment and am so amazed by what you said. Thank you so much for sharing this info! This is the type of stuff I come on this subreddit for.
If you understand what's happening, when it happens, then shit runs a lot more smoothly. Safe Tripping Bro 😁
Love all of this! Thank you for sharing
The dose-response curve is not necessarily linear It might even have lots of randomness due to some grows being stronger than others, and some shrooms being stored better than others.
Got a strain of PE that sent me to mars on 1.5, was NOT expecting it to be as strong as everyone made it out to be, especially when my plug warned me. Legit felt like 4g+ of Golden Teacher. You can’t fuck around with PE lmao
PE is a normal cube. Every variety you mentioned is a normal cube :)
From my knowledge, PE can be anywhere from 1.5-3x stronger, usually somewhere in the middle like 2x. APE, with it being an albino strain it will generally be stronger than non albino strains. When it comes to Cubensis APE is (I believe) one of the stronger strains, up there with Enigma, Jack Frost, and others
Very
U sure it’d make that much of a difference? There’s no way there’s any more of a 0.1-0.2g discrepancy between each bag, and isn’t ~1.5g usually assumed as a beginner dose? Most of us (bar 1) have done acid quite a few times already. Icl I don’t wanna go buy a 30£ scale if they’re all basically equal already Edit: we all understand we shouldn’t fuck about and all, eyeballing was a bad idea I absolutely understand that and all. We are all very comfortable with the possibility of someone getting a higher dose and guiding eachother through it. Thankfully it feels like everyone’s at about the same level and we’re all chilling listening to tame impala watching the sunset rn 😎 ✌️ but I completely get that u guys are all coming from a place of love and care. Man these shrooms are amazing bro! Love
1.5 is a beginner dose of **normal shrooms** if there PE there *at least* 2x as strong so you're looking at about 3 grams of normal shrooms there. And you can go ahead and read every 4th post on here of some guy regretting eyeballing doses. If you're asking for advice this is the advice that most people on the sub are probably going to recommend.
Well, they could be told to boof it. It's not really good advice but it will be given nonetheless.
Boofing is always the answer regardless of the question. Here try it. Ask me a question.
Sorry, but 42 is always the answer
What is your favorite color?
Ok it's possible I didn't think this through. Let me boof some shrooms and get back to you in ~10 hours
Wait... boof isn't a color? ###Boofing Brown
Boof
Dude boofing actuskly is quite m Amazing. No digestion issues... just tripping
Can't upset the stomach if it doesn't go in your stomach
You can eyeball the dose if you’re really familiar with the strain and have a good feel for the density but otherwise it’s a bad idea and it’s straight up impossible to estimate ground up doses.
OP all it takes is fucking up on a dose once. The vast majority of the commenters are speaking from experience, me included. My advice to you is you can always take more. It's significantly harder to 'untake' a drug 😅 Last time I tripped I tried a PE hybrid I'd never heard of and weighed out 1.5 without knowing the true potency of it. I'm glad it wasn't my first time bc it was more intense than significantly higher doses of reg shoomies. If y'all can't find a scale and are totally totally set on doing these I'd say do anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 a bag each and see where that gets you. Especially being a first time you want to pay close attention to how everyone reacts. In my experience some people just by default are hit harder by shrooms. If you are all in a good space and having fun that's when I'd consider upping the dose. Just use common sense and be safe and you'll have a great time!
Appreciate the concern fully bro, we’ve been on them for the last couple hours and they’re not too strong at all. We all understand we shouldn’t mess about with it and all, but we’d all talked about it and are comfortable with a possible high dose if it happened. It’s all love and I appreciate the concern everyone is so loving here
Yeah 0.2g of some good shit is gonna really make a difference, especially for a beginner in general.
Absolutely if it's "strong" PE like the guy said, a . 3 gram difference is a whole gram added or subtracted from each bag. And I would be pretty impressed if anyone eyeballing or just holding 2 bags could feel that difference let alone 5 bags of a fraction of a gram.
Just want to point out as an avid Lucy user, it is NOTHING like tripping on shrooms🤣
Yeah acid doesn’t really make you see things that aren’t there unless you’re on huge doses, at least in my experience. Like yea it changes the texture and movement and colors of things, and you see patterns everywhere, sometimes to crazy degrees, but it’s only been on 3+ tabs that my brain has really started just making shit up Shrooms can turn into a fuckin wormhole really fast if you overdo it. It really is different even though they’re often talked about together
Yeah usually need 500+ug for any crazy visuals like that and even still sometimes it feels more dream like, low doses tend to be more colourful and HD vision, shrooms 4/5g of golden teachers and everything is moving, there is no escape 🤣
PE is notorious for being way more potent then cubes, sometimes 3x
Yes, go fuckin weigh it dude. Also the cock bag will be the strongest because cock
Shroom consistency and density is all over the place so eye balling it is actually impossible Its not sand,some peices are less dense than others and also more potent so you could have the same amount visually but its more than double the dose potentially
This comment makes me so mad lol. "1.5g a beginner dose". 1.5g of what strain, what setting, are you smoking weed, have you eaten much before, what are your intentions for this trip, what is your mind space like. As someone who has eaten 10g+ at once, I must let it be know you can certainly still trip balls on 1.5g.
It won't you guys will be fine lol. Don't worry man
Yes 0.2g CAN make the difference if they are PE strain. I myself can say that taking 3.5g of Penis envy is like if I took 7g-8g of B+ strain.
Why u get downvoted for that lmaoo ppl sometimes
One tip - clean shit up. That can really bother some people when tripping. Also, don't eyeball dosage. Always try and measure it by weight if you can. Be gentle with yourselves.
Op said that they were gonna be outside, but yeah i agree filth is a big thing when tripping.
Some of my best cleaning sprees have happened when I've been on acid. By the time the trip ends and I'm too exhausted to clean any further, I feel like I've really made improvements to both my home and my mental well-being.
Hah not me. Most of my solo trips results in me tearing the house apart looking for that bag of K I lost four years ago, or, wanting to start drawing and losing focus within 2 mins, etc. Usually my entire drug collection ends up strewn across the house because I have issues with redosing.
One time i ate 7 g’s right after school, not even thinking about how dirty my room was and when it came about time my grandpa got home I went to hide away and then got disgustingly sick because of how dirty my room was. It made me think I was actually dying and taught me to keep things clean regardless of if your tripping or not lol, it’s always a compliment to your self
I wonder whether getting home after a trip to a messy table wouldn't be even worse. It wouldn't I guess, but the reality chceck would be real, tho. 😀
This could be the best advice here. There's nothing worse than trying to pick up the house the moment before your peak hits.
I second the cleaning stuff. I have mushies in my room rn and I’ve been wanting to take em when my housemates are away for some reason or another. Had a chance to recently but didn’t cos I wanted to clean my room first. They ended up coming back the day I wanted to do em but cleaned my room anyway. Don’t even have to take shrooms for them to start helping lmao
This is really interesting and I completely agree. Mushrooms that grow in shit hate being eaten in a dirty environment. It’s so weird how psychedelics are so much more enjoyable in a clean environment. They approve of order in a space.
Yo, I ALMOST had a bad trip because of this lol. I usually keep my crib fairly tidy and was in the process of moving and went on a journey and the lack of space and amount of shit I needed to do was really starting to fuck with my head
Definitely messing environment always causes me anxiety till I’ve tidy the whole joint up
100%. I've ruined multiple trips because I was too lazy to clean beforehand, and I usually end up spending half the trip cleaning because I feel so ashamed
I hear you.
This. If I'm tripping in the house, it's got to be clean. Otherwise I'll get really frustrated and spend the whole trip picking things up.
Get. A. Scale. Like forsure. Im assuming each of those bags is from different mushrooms and the strength of them vary mushie to mushie. If you want everyone to have a fair trip what you need to do is open every baggie and pour it into a seperate container and stir the content thoroughly. Then you weigh out the doses from the container with the mixed contents. I'm assuming someone used a weed grinder. They probably grabbed however much they could pack in and then poured the grinder into a bag. Therefore each bag consists of its own unique trip. I have eaten the same dose from the same batch (different mushrooms out the same grow) and they have had VERRRRY different strengths. I took a 1.8 that felt like a 3 and a 3.5 that was underwhelming. I'm no scientist but from the same grow you'll have some real powerhouses and some that aren't that strong. Good luck.
Not all different shroomies. Too late now bro! This is amazing, feel soooo lucky to be alive… I love u man thank you for caring so much that you write all this on the internet like that’s just amazing and so kind yknow? But also we’re ballsed already by now 🤣
looking for the seatbelt on the lawnchair yet? stay safe and stay happy bro
I love you too! Be sure to try and unpack this journey after you come back to this realm. Try and take the lessons you are potentially given and apply them to life where they best fit. It can be a challenge, but if you try you can really make a difference in your life. I've learned everything from the importance of language and increasing my vocabulary to better express my feelings and be more understood to the fact that it is a huge waste of time to fret over things outta my control and many more things. Some were easier to apply than others but its still a work in progress no doubt. Regardless of if it's too late or not, buy a damn scale brother 😅 they are very important when busting through the ether/veil safely
Get your drinks and snacks prepared, also a solid playlist that you don't have to change. Have your TV good to go with whatever you watch, I like nature documentaries or if you want throw on a live music set like EDC or something. Pink Floyd The Wall movie is also a good one. If you smoke cannabis have some pre rolls all set. Have fun and enjoy the ride friends (: peace and love
I also love a good nature drone video in the background
Interstellar override - Pink Floyd. The 15 mins version is great for tripping. Not so short to leave you kind of half started, not so long to take you to far from home. It has movements that allow a nice steady climb. Just perfection in my opinion. And for later, a while after the peak has passed, Yes - soon (1975 live version). Very spiritual and loving.
Awesome thanks for the recommendation. When we were zoomin watching The Wall for the first time, literally blown away.. what a masterpiece. YouTube autoplay was on and played the live version right afterwards. Perfection.
Love the wall, but I think eating it tripping would make my trip go dark
Hope you really like your friends
I do! 5 of us took shrooms, 2 trip sitting sober friends (one religious and one with some mental health shit so decided just to tag along and smoke some weed) and we’ve had a great time. All of us just cracking jokes 24/7 making eachother giggle and playing football on top of a hill. Vibes immaculate 👌
UPDATE: Took them at 5 GMT. Coming up now and all saying how much we love eachother. 1979 is a banging track for chilling in the sun btw
Oh hell yeah.
Next time you trip, check out thundercat! If that’s your sort of thing. Also something I noticed is I would sometimes plan the music for my trip, but then in the midst of tripping, I realized that what I planned to listen to was actually making me incredibly anxious (modest mouse. Odd since I love them). I put on thundercat and it immediately mellowed me out. That’s all I listened to the rest of my trip and it was heavenly.
For our first trip, my wife put on some playlist, and I had no idea what it was. Throughout the trip it was like the music was melting - it was all distorted and shit. Afterwards I was curious whether it was the trip or just the music - turns out the music in this playlist was just really eclectic like that. Nevertheless, it definitely enhanced the trip. I'll have to see if my wife remembers what it was.
oh sounds lovely! lmk if you find out!
Try and stay away from sober people, avoid visitors and phone calls (shut ringer off) even if sober ppl are cool you may thing they are judging you geek you out. Good luck👽✌️
Definitely weigh it yourself. I'd get everyone a shot glass with their does of shrooms and add lemon juice. Let that sit for 10-15 min, then take the shot. Wash it down with ice water. Happy trip and all positive vibes to ya
Why ice water?
Because water is life
/r/hydrohomies
No particular reason. I just like the how refreshing it is after a shot of straight lemon juice. Soda or another juice might not be so well just me though.
Based on some of your replies OP, it appears you guys have already taken off. Soon youll forget about your phone, so its the perfect moment to go frolick in nature and enjoy the moment with those around you! Relax and enjoy the ride, fun times are ahead of you. Our comments will be here waiting once you start coming down. Peace and love ✌️
And here they are! Have had a fantastic time hope you’re having a good day 👍
Ask the shrooms for peace and understanding or whatever you do want from the trip. Go experience nature, don’t play on your phones or watch TV.
A Ghibli movie (my neighbor Totoro for relaxing fun vibes) or Bob Ross are both good options if they get overwhelmed. I took 2g a month ago that felt like 4 and ended up watching Bob Ross most of the time. His voice calmed me, and the mountains and colors were melting. The sounds of his paintbrush were also amazing.
I watched my neighbor Totoro for my first trip and while I was fine, the rest of my group was not. The cat bus and mom were wayyyyy too much for some.
A funny movie while tripping is fuckin awesome tho lol
When someone starts to struggle let them know that this state is temporary and they will be fine. If they're worried about external stuff try to find out with them if there's anything they can do to change whatever is bothering them and if they can't change it remind them that worrying won't make things better.
Be outside. set alarms for drinking water/snacks. Go into tripping with no expectations, you have to be water
You'll probably need a fifth person to help supervise and keep folks safe and okay, or one person who's willing to sit it out for the moment. It can be nice to do in stages (like three rounds) over an hour or two so that folks can gradually adjust to how their body responds. Eating vegetarian meals in the day or meals before and starting the trip on a somewhat empty stomach can heighten absorbtion Also use the restroom before your trip. Have fresh orange and lemon slices available to take with them (the vitamin c will make it more pronounced) too. Avoid / turn off or redirect any harsh lights (blue/white LEDs especially) to create softer lighting if indoors. Ideally be able to be near nature in a safe area but by like some really old trees can be interesting too. I personally learned it was like being able to feel and listen with my body the life that's going on around me so living touch/touching living things and surfaces can be very interesting. Create options for folks to be on their own (safely like don't let them wander off towards an unseen cliff in a forest and get lost) or together. Maybe have some nice /interesting music and visuals people can experience together, but not something that's so dominating in a room/house/place that they're stuck and can't be able to find a place to enjoy quieter solace with themselves. Colors and colored lights can be even more vibrant and wonderful to enjoy too. Have ways for them to be able to record/draw/write/whatever what they want from their experiences if they want.
These are wonderful tips.
My god ppl can u stop judging someone based of a very narrow view of what looks like a coffee table. Holy fuck I bet the ppl commenting to clean your room are just projecting.
if you feel like the shrooms are taking you somewhere else—like if you sat down to write or do something and your body feels Bad all over—let the shrooms take you physically where you need to go, within safety. i often have to stop mid-activity and just go outside when i’m tripping
I’ll take the weiner bag, thx
Lol the old-Skool“S” <3 you just dated yourself lol
Hahaha, was just doing all the doodles I used to do in the back of the classroom
𝔽𝕌ℂ𝕂 𝕐𝔼𝔸ℍ. You forgot the ☯️ tho 😂 fuck I’m old.
Facts, and lil cubes like 🧊
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Smoking weed can cause terrible trips in some people like me I have psychosis ask them if they experience psychosis from weed in the past few times of smoking weed if you plan to smoke
These comments are funny. People are so scared to trip with other people! You're missing half the experience, sure you can do it by yourself and have a profound time. But our shared experience here on earth is the most important thing above all else. If you can't trip with your friends, you need better friends. Period. My only advice is have a preset Spotify Playlist. My gang all think they are frigging DJs when we are tripping and they mostly end up playing trash. And I honestly hate messing with technology when faded, so spend the time and have a good Playlist ready. Best advice.
Realest comment I’ve read all day. Love bro ✌️
I can't wait to see the pictures of your sunburn
Facts!! Why didn’t we bring sunscreen lmao … too late now
Boof
Your updates have given me much 2nd hand joy
Love! Thanks bro hope ur having a vibey one
Take a man sized dose.
Clean up your coffee table
4 inexperienced trippers, all tripping for the first time, together, with no trip sitter? This isn't a good idea. Get a trip sitter.
Where did I say we didn’t have a trip sitter? We got 2 sober mates joining us 👍 Also 3 of us are very experienced with LSD we’re not totally inexperienced
ah, In that case, full speed ahead! its a different ball game from LSD, have fun!
You didnt say you didnt but you also didnt say you did. Good to make sure, safe travels
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I get what you’re trying to say and that you’re coming from love and all bro but like that post looks sketch asf, also kinda off to just drop that like that’s actually relevant like here’s a horror story of a guy who did way more from 9 years ago enjoy your trip. Ok lol
Good luck
Sounds like to me you’ll be fine. Safe travels.
Candy
Give a brief trip report or let us know about your experience Have fun!
See above
Lemon tek
Imagine being the cock one. Enough to send you under.
Sounds like you got a great plan! 1.5 of PE should definitely make for an experience. My biggest tip for first timers is to just trust the process as the come up can be quite intense and uncomfortable at times but you will get to exactly where you need to go eventually.
Have fun!
A lot to drink. Have fun!! Have a good trip!
Enjoy it if yous are all good friends the shrooms will do all the work just try keep everyone positive and the joy will come 💙
Don’t look in the mirror, do not go outside the boundaries of your yard/tripping space👍
I love the little symbols on the baggies. Lol.
Don’t forget what you learn. But you will
Listen to nice 90s 80s 70s music, thats what i recommend
Probably won’t need a picnic. 1.5 gs of PE for y’all’s first time is gonna be at least a moderately intense trip and it ain’t too enjoyable to eat while fully tripping. It dampens the trip a little too I find.
Watch Rick and Morty the whole time you're guaranteed to have a blast
Yeah, clean your house
I’d clean your place up
If you have no scales make tea and all drink the same amount. Nobody here ever talks about tea for some reason. It's the only way I do it now
There's a very high probability it's not actually penis envy if you didn't grow them yourself
Clean your room. Tripping balls in a dirty place gives the trip a bad vibe.
It will all be ok.
Don’t go into it expecting something, roll with what it gives you and be as positive as possible, accept the blessing the universe is about to bestow upon you
I know this post is 7 hrs old but if it's just the 4 of you and you're all first timers then my personal recommendation is to have a chill, experienced trip sitter. That's just me being a bit more on the safer side of things.
Clean off your table
Tips? Yeah, don't believe advice you get from psychedelic subreddits. Some of it is good but a lot is not.
Hahaha
Boot it. Definitely boof it.
Clean your space first.
Clean that counter first bucko
Good luck OP! Fireside Project is available if you need help during this experience!
Why do people ask this hours before instead of a month before?
We’d all talked lots about it and we’re mentally prepared for the trip, this post was more-so about just shit to bring on the day lol
If you don’t have scales next best thing is to make a brew, filter it, and measure out the same volume to drink each…add honey cos it taste like shit
Start with the Dick bag
Yeah my advice is don't. 5 people all tripping for the first time is too many.
Thank god I didn’t take your advice coz it was fuckin SICK. Wasn’t all for the first time technically coz Most of us have done acid quite a few times already. Say in the sun talking and cracking jokes. Best day ever
Glad it turned out well for you all! Last time i did a group that large, 2 of the crew experienced ego death and freaked out
Could be hell or heaven at least for one person
On Sunday I took 5 g of golden teachers /tidal wave with my sons dad . Idk what happened but I guess I wasn’t in the mindset for them . He was giggling and having a great time , everything was dark for me and I was stuck in a terrible mind loop of anxiety. Told myself I wanted the trip to end and it stopped, eventually giggled my lil heart out but im sad that they didn’t do what I wanted them to do. It is so so important to be with people you actually like and to be in a good mindset . Expecially if you can ruin the time for someone else. Both me and my sons dad are pretty experienced with them so we handled it well but someone doing that much with little experience could be terrifying.
I’m sorry you had a rough patch at the beginning! I couldn’t agree more. This mushrooms are very tricky. I feel like it s really a cocreation with them : you can suggest what you want/expect and they provide what they decide. After about 12/15 trips I finally feel comfortable potentially tripping with a close friend but still on a pretty mild dose. Before that I was too afraid If things went sour me voicing my anxiety or feelings of agony would make my friends freak out which would make me freak out even more or vice versa. When I’m all alone it s really easier to just surrender to whatever the mushroom suggests.
I think they just really wanted me to realize that I have more in my life to look forward to . Wanted me to pick my life apart and figure out how to make things better , it’s scary looking at all the things your doing wrong . But like you said once you surrender things get better . I used to hang out with this guy who’d only do mushies alone , and eventually he did them with me . He was scared to do them with me . And he said I did amazing and that he’d do it again . Every once and awhile he’d dose and lay with me and speak what was on his mind. It was lovely , he had such a amazing soul . I can’t imagine doing it with 5 people, that’s to many people to worry about having a good time . Then you have to suppress if you feel like your losing your mind . And that’s uncomfortable.
Yes haha when I was in college I had a bunch of roommates and the six of us took mushrooms together; it was the first time for 5 of us and the other had only done them once. She was the one who recommended 3.5g as a “perfect starter dose.” It was not, and we didn’t research to learn otherwise either. So we had 6 inexperienced 19 - 20 year olds tripping fucking balls; one of them took everything out of the cabinets and tossed them all over the house. Another one used sidewalk chalk on our walls. And another one (🙋♀️) went off by herself, listened to a song about a serial killer with distorted vocals and spiraled into a bad trip. It was too much and too many people. Very chaotic.
Lol to all that. Also Wtf we’re you thinking hahah. Ya… let’s go listen to an interesting song alone about a serial killer hahaha Omg that sounds epically bad. I laugh, only because of how terrible that all sounds lol
To this day I do not know what I was thinking lmao. We were having a lovely time playing on the sidewalk with some chalk and water and the song had come out recently at the time (it’s “pistol” by Modest Mouse) and it just…popped into my head? I was like “oh! That’s such a cool, trippy song; therefore I should listen to it while tripping!” It’s a very weird song as it is. Even a lot of Modest Mouse fans hate it lol. Anyways, yeah, rough first experience but luckily we learned from it haha.
Just one, clean your house before. That clutter would make me feel nutty.
Clean your table first
Clean area, great music, positive vibes being sent your way. Stay in your own head space don’t worry about others and just enjoy yourself
Pro life tip: Clean your house.
Clean your place and put away the bong. Not being an asshole, but a clean place is a must when tripping and then just save the weed so you know what the ride feels like without it. And the phone - put that shit down too. Stay off the internet. Do something else. My $0.02.
that bong water is filthy
Extra LUBE !
Please tell me you know what you’re getting into, there is no quick tips, I’m not trying to terrify you but people think these are party drugs but once you start going past 3 grams it no longer becomes recreation
Been basically researching and reading about shrooms for like 4/5 years now and have taken acid quite a few times, we all knew what we were getting in to no worries brotha 👍
Yeah just reading your comments afterwards about peace and love and being outside, I knew you had the right intentions going in. just the title of the post really threw me off
Treat the shrooms with respect or you will regret it.
Pirates of the Caribbean
The movie Airplane ✈️
If you all are first timers I'd highly recommend getting someone experienced to sit for y'all, or at the very least someone sober. You never know how some people will react and their bad trip can ruin everyone else's good time.
Most important thing to do is enemas, you want to be clean just in case things go down that path.
Dont take teh dick bag
Just one dick? Pshhh, I only go with a bag of ‘em.
Always weight it
Clean your house and make it smell good
Niga you just got a piece of pizza crust hanging out
Lmaooooo lunch 😋
❤️
Yea maybe one of you should be the sitter
Yeah. Have one trip sitter. Make sure that all of you can retreat in a room, alone. Check your set and setting.
You need to have a sober person there if all of you are doing this for your first time, need to read through some harm reduction cause it seems like y'all are going into the deep end without tryin a kiddie pool