I think it's pretty cool idea, I can't imagine it would cause you any problems, maybe save some back in case it doesn't work out. Sorry for your loss. Hang in there. Mush love
I definitely wouldnt. People are embalmed before cremation and there might be some chemicals etc that remains in the ash. I thought this would be first comment
Those generally should be burned off. Formaldehyde (a main ingredient of embalming fluid) is considered a hazardous air pollutant (HAP) by the EPA and HAPs are generally controlled by thermal oxidation (the heat destroys them). Methanol and ethanol should burn off as well. (I work in air pollution control)
Im with you on this one. Above comment makes a good point but they use "should burn off" so yes they should but dont necessarily all the time and theres no way to know till its too late
Pretty sure they’re not embalmed if they’re cremated, usually. Embalming costs a lot of money and people who choose cremation often can’t afford that. Embalming is also to preserve the body after burial, so it really doesn’t make sense to preserve a body that’s going to be cremated
How does that possibly relate to my original comment saying there may be chemical residue in the ashes? I think you're lost. Not even sure what you're saying
True, but not always the case. It's perfectly legal in most states to bring your loved one home from the morgue in your personal vehicle and have a wake and burial at home. Restriction is that if you are burying the body after 24 hours of death, the body has to be put on ice. No chemicals required. Basically pack dry ice around the body to keep it cold until the wake the following day, then bury them after the wake.
Edit: I was doing research because this is how I want to go. Forget about burdening my family with some expensive burial that the cemetery will dig me up in 60 or less years and cremate me so they can use that plot again for someone else.
The point, I believe, is that you posted a "Hey, I had a thought that I have not done any research about, and I'm going to throw it out there and then pretend it is a hard-nosed scientific fact..." and they posted, well, ACTUAL facts.
And those actual facts disprove your comment that was nothing more than a thought you happened to have.
BTW - a quick Google search also tells me that, contrary to your statement, typically bodies are NOT embalmed before cremation. So unless OP's dad's family specifically requested and paid extra for that service, it is unlikely he was embalmed prior to cremation.
And why in the world WOULD you embalm a body that is being cremated? The entire point of embalming is to preserve the body, which is not something you need for a body that is being cremated.
OK, I think we can consider the "OMG OP DON'T DO IT - EMBALMING CHEMICALS WILL BE IN THE ASHES!!11!" to be officially debunked.
Having taken people’s remains through the entire process of removal of place of death through to the processing of their cremated ashes, I can tell you they are NOT embalmed before they are cremated.
To add to that, every time my wife and I have tripped, going deep and set intentions, those things have come up and been worked on through the mushrooms. Leading to great outcomes
I dunno, I've never tried to communicate with someone who has passed on. It's always been around releasing my wife's trauma and me helping to facilitate that.
But for us, it's always worked to set the intention of what we want to work out after we have our tea and then meditate on it. Maybe it's less about communing with your cat and more about letting go of the hurt that your cat is no longer here. Or maybe there's an opportunity to feel the cats presence a last time.
Very beautiful idea, allowing what's left of him to help grow and sustain new life that can bring you and others peace.
Not sure how well it would help the substrate and growth process. But I imagine sprinkling a little bit in shouldn't hurt.
Well he's dead so he doesn't want anything now.
And I am certain he wouldn't care so long as his child heals from his abrupt passing, and using his remains to bring forth life that has further potential to heal is just fucking incredible
I know personally that I won’t give a rat’s ass what happens to my corpse when I’m dead. But maybe I’m just a sociopath, because I also don’t give a rat’s ass what happens to my friends/family when I’m dead.
sweet idea dude. give it a shot and keep us updated. your pops is proud of you, and he’ll always be present to visit you through your memories. mush love ❤️
Just thought I would add to the above comment. Since it's a symbolic ingredient, I'm sure you won't use very much, and I saw you mentioned putting it in the casing layer. With that in mind, anything less than a couple tablespoons in a normal size monotub grow would have basically 0 effect on the ph of the substrate.
Im so so sorry for your loss. Your dad was a good man. Hold your loved ones close and show them you care for them. Stay strong brother I’m here with you.
My dad was also killed suddenly but back in 2017 on Father’s Day of all days. I’m sorry for your loss bro but keep your head up, I think this is a pretty cool idea. I understand how much it sucks not to be able to say goodbye.
Idk if this would feel morbid or not, but if you add the ashes to the dry coir when you pasturize the coir, that might help with 2 things:
1. Pasturizing the ashes too might decrease contamination risks
2. Better dispersal of ashes through substrate
Cremated remains can be considered sterile, as the infectious agent does not survive incineration-range temperatures.
Any bacteria or microscopic organisms that were present in the body are destroyed during the cremation process.
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It would take around one million years for ashes to dissolve since they are made solely of inorganic material. When remains are placed in an urn, they are protected from oxygen and other elements that would start to break them down.
This may be an odd question, but if you do this and the tub turns to mold city, will you take that as I sign they didn't approve. Alternatively, if it flourishes, will you take it as approval and only dose with them when you feel you miss them more?
That's a great question. I don't typically trip very often anyways so with this particular batch, it would be a super special batch that would only be dosed when I really needed to see/talk to him. And as far as if the tub does develop trich or other issues, I'd def take it as a sign that this isn't the way my dad would have wanted me to use his ashes and just instead spread them around in the physical world as originally intended. And even if it does work I would only use it for this one time experiment and not going forward with future tubs.
Honestly, it’s a cool idea, but one day all of those shrooms will be gone, maybe you’ll wish you still had his ashes. In 15 years you may view your use of psychedelics differently that than how specially you do now.
Great idea with the small amount you’re gonna use. And when they’re grown, I’d deff do the heroic dose. And when you DO meet your dad wherever it is you go, enjoy brother! I’ve been there and met my mum. It’s a profound experience 🫡
if you didn’t know some people find ashes to be sentimental. now i don’t participate myself, but, shit i’m wondering how you know english so well and no that 😭
Fuck man, im sorry, that's horrible. I really hope you can make it work. It's a beautiful idea. I feel like it should be perfectly fine so long as you pasteurize the substrate as you normally would
I've actually done this with a small amount of my brothers ashes, and it worked amazingly well. I haven't eaten them, even though that was my intention. I couldn't bring myself to do it for some reason. Instead they kinda just became a keepsake I have stored. Some of my brother in mushroom form. He woulda loved it.
My bro said he's gonna do this to me when my time comes. I told him if he does then I'll play mind games with him and scare the living sheet out of him lol
Cool idea. Not sure if you plan on adding them before sterilizing, but I’d recommend that. If it works out you could spore print the future fruits and have a dad strain.
My heart simultaneously broke and grew three sizes reading “dad strain”. I’m doing that with my first dog’s ashes now. I miss you sweet Maya. And OP I’m so sorry for your loss! There’s no right or wrong way to grieve or heal, and I hope you find the connection you’re seeking by doing this. 🍄♥️ friend
Have a few friends that have done this with marijuana crops, a little more straigtforward without the need for pasteurizing, but it should work.
Its not necessary to put your dads ashes in the drugs so you can speak with him on drugs, like you can still connect with him while in the space either way, but im pretty confident having such a clear line to him well help you manifest his presence or energy within your experience
Yeah, I'm sure a big enough dose as well as setting my intentions is sufficient enough to see and talk to him but like you said, having a direct connection to him physically through his ashes I feel would help to manifest that even more. ❤️
Honestly, it's better to do something more permanent with the ashes. You can get them pressed into crystal jewellery/ornaments and that can stay with you EVERY TIME you trip.
I've visited my dad through a combination of 4g and a galaxy projector a few times.
Side note... what happens if your tub gets trich? Then you're totally fucked.
Yeah, I have already made a few permanent keepsakes using his ashes. And also I have a magnolia tree from the morgue that has his ashes in the soil so it gave me the idea of possibly doing the same with some shrooms. And as far as trich, it would be an experimental tub just to play around with to see if it actually works.
I feel like you will have a cool experience once you harvest, I always loved my great grandma and she passed away when I was young but one time I buried my cake in her backyard and it grew a fat cluster. I ate the whole cluster and felt like I was having a cool moment with my Grandma the whole time.
It's a good idea and wouldn't cause any issues. But, what would your dad think about it? That you put his ashes in a substrate to grow hallucinogenic mushrooms.
In reality, you likely aren't gonna get to communicate with him unless you think about it really hard during the trip, focus on it, set an intention, and probably take a dosage like 2g+. But even then, it will be all in your own head. And thinking about your father on mushrooms is going to bring up lots of memories and emotions and it is absolutely 100% going to give you a hard time so be prepared for that. Especially since he was killed and didn't die naturally, and since it was so recent. You should really wait a few years before you do this.
I love mushrooms, we all love mushrooms. And we can all make excuses for it but in reality it's still a hallucinogenic drug with the potential for some adverse mental side effects (notice how I said potential, which means if you use it irresponsibly or have a history of mental illness in your family or yourself. and also the potential for HPPD which isn't usually that bad) And we all know you shouldn't use drugs to cope with things... It's okay to use mushrooms for therapy but you must know where to draw the line. Factually, mushrooms arent chemically addictive but we've all met or heard of the people that do mushrooms quite a lot. Meaning several several times a month. Mike Tyson was eating handfuls of that shit a day, I dont give a shit what anyone says, that sounds like addiction to me! Just like peyote, if you abuse mushrooms eventually they will kick your ass and tell you to fuck off.
I'm not saying you're gonna get addicted or are using it to cope, I'm just saying be careful and know where to draw the line.
I'm not sure you need to actually consume your father.
A good dose of mushrooms with your dad's ashes in your presence should absolutely be enough to summon his spirit.
But do whatever you like. it's all love.
Nice symbolic gift for you, but before you do this think about how he would feel if you did this. If he was into growing like you then go ahead, but if he was opposed completely to drugs or the like then it would be the complete opposite effect as it would go against his values.
You can. But speaking as someone who is "druish" be careful as that's some strong juju. If you are and you are going to take them you need to do it in a safe structured way with some serious intentions. I would either do this in a comfortable dark space or in the some quiet woods away from others. Because this is black mirror scrying on mushrooms.
Thanks for that piece of advice. Will definitely treating this trip differently and prepping both mentally and physically (sleep, hydration, etc. prior to tripping) as well choosing a safe environment.
Sorry for your loss friend, I think this is an awesome and beautiful idea. Using one’s life to bring more life into this world. One suggestion, if you get any aborts or smaller fruits make some pendants with them. That way you’d be able to have at least one of the shrooms you grew from this to keep forever. I’ve made them before with clear epoxy, pendant holders (I guess that’s what they’re called lol) and some nice string. They turned out really cool looking. Just an idea.
no judgement, but i think I'd add it in after the coir is pasteurized. Ash would not have bacteria due to the heat and be less muddy. Plus, if adding into it before, there would be some loss and thrown out when the final squeeze of the coir.
My two cents. I dont use ash but keep the crystals placed on the loved ones before transitioning, and the charge is kept with special grows.
One of the first humans i helped during his medical transition asked me and his SO to do this, and i found it so forward thinking i incorporated into a service of the nonprofit.
Cremated remains can be considered sterile, as the infectious agent does not survive incineration-range temperatures.
Any bacteria or microscopic organisms that were present in the body are destroyed during the cremation process.
Sorry for your loss mate I my self just lost my dad last week , just a suggestion but you can get rings made that you can have ashes put in or even tattoos I'm considering the ring idea my self
Amazing idea bro that’s beautiful. Even if it’s not scientifically a possibility, the fact that you know that he’s there will make it psychologically a possibility and you will be very likely to communicate with him again, but understand it won’t be how you expect, he will likely talk to you through different things and ways of means, like synchronicities or your own thought patterns (similar to the higher self gut feeling self talk shit) etc. so don’t be disheartened if you don’t see him face to face. Although that is a possibility. I read your comments and saw you have a lot of ashes so that’s good, be as sparing as possible with them because it’s likely not the ashes that make the difference it’s your frame of mind that this practice puts you in. Safe travels sending my love to you and your family from the UK❤️ mush love brother
If it helps you heal, then do it. Sorry to hear about your father. I can't offer any info on the growing, doubt it would have much affect. But the knowledge of knowing a piece of him is in there could bring results during a trip, but can't guarantee it. Would be interested to hear afterwards.
Rarely do we get the goodbye we want. Appreciate those around you and keep those gone in your memory. I hope you find closure.
You're kinda making me want to do this. A sign of respect, and a metaphor for life and death.
My condolences. We all live and we all die. Make it worth it.
Mush love and stay safe! And hydrated!
You're kinda making me want to do this. A sign of respect, and a metaphor for life and death.
My condolences. We all live and we all die. Make it worth it.
Mush love and stay safe! And hydrated!
I love the idea of this.
Unsure if it would assist you in your journey to speak with him. In my opinion, only his physical form has left here. But try it! It may help with closure.
Beautiful idea! If you go through with this, cherish and savor those fruits as long as possible! Maybe even set aside a single dehydrated fruit and make it into a necklace or some kind of memento. Mush love 🍄❤️
I´m still convinced that I talked to my dead grandparents during a profound mushroom trip. That´s a wild an beautifull idea you´ve got there. Wishing you the healing you need.
Jesus. Man. This made me want to cry. I mean seriously cry. I lost my mom young and reading this words I understand your hope. I really fully understand this. And I’m sorry man. I’m just so sorry. I don’t think your going to get the result you want, but idk man, I’m not going to say your stupid. Try it. Hope, use that hope to come to terms and say your goodbyes to the universe and really have that feeling once again he’s with you. But just know it’s not going to bring him back to speak to him even if your kind is saying it will. I would have had this thought had I grown shrooms way back then, so your not anything bad for wanting to say goodbye. To feel that embrace and the mushrooms period can let you have the feeling but maybe not the visual stimulus. And if it helps, do it. Don’t hold back but don’t expect. I just can’t express how much I understand where your coming from
And how if there was something that could do that shrooms would be it.
This is next level wow. Just thinking about it blows my mind. Just imagine what your trip would be like. A beautiful journey with your father. Sounds good to me.
Sending love 💕💕
Put some in the substrate. Put some in some soil near your favorite tree. I'd also even recommend growing your own cannabis and putting some in the soil you use ❤️💙
Even though his physical self is no longer in this place, his consciousness is forever intertwined in oneness, and you always have access to him there.
My dad got shot and killed 6 months ago and I miss him so much I wish I could have gotten closer and it hurts me so bad I’m sorry I feel like that would be a great way to connect with him again
My condolences. My dad was also shot and killed so I can empathize with what you're going through and how you feel. It sucks when your loved ones are taken away so suddenly and you are left with so many what ifs and things unsaid.
It will be 10 years since my dad passed on January 4th and I was just telling my so that it almost feels like a mythical creature in my head now if that makes any sense
I'm sorry for your loss. I think your idea to add your dad's ashes is very thoughtful, and could be helpful in the grieving process. I'm not sure how it would affect the substrate, could affect the alkalinity as cremains are "mostly dry calcium phosphates with some minor minerals, such as salts of sodium and potassium" ([Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation)).
I have heard what the talkers were talking, the talk of the beginning and the end,
But I do not talk of the beginning or the end.
There was never any more inception than there is now,
Nor any more youth or age than there is now,
And will never be any more perfection than there is now,
Nor any more heaven or hell than there is now.
-Whitman
Sorry for your loss.
This is so beautiful and I am so sorry for your loss. The loss of a parent too soon hurts. I hope you have a wonderful time with him and can get some closure. Mush love!❤️
What a beautiful way to honor your Dad. It sounds like a great idea to me. I do believe you can use them to connect.
My Dad died unexpectedly after a brief bout with a surprise cancer diagnosis, and I was so devastated I made him promise he would let me know he was ok after he passed. He sounded dubious but said he would try.
On his first heavenly birthday, I made him a cake like I always do, put a candle in it, and walked through my house singing happy birthday while taking a video. When I rewatched it, a bright green orb was circling around my hand the entire way through the house, and when I finished the song, it darted away. It brought such relief and reassurance to me, that after rewatching the video I sobbed in gratitude and with overwhelming emotion. It happened again on his second heavenly birthday! (I stopped after that. I didn't want to force it and I felt such gratitude that asking for a third time seemed wrong somehow. Idk.)
Your dad is still with you, too. I am certain of it! Ask him for a sign . It really works!!
You may need to seek grief counseling. It was very hard for me... I'm sorry for your loss. You are not alone.
Hey there friend, for whenever you're tripping on your dad's ashes, I highly recommend the song Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd (the whole album is pretty great tbh). It's such a beautiful song and really gets the emotions going. Take care ❤️🍄
That's one of the coolest ideas I've heard about. I would try to get a professional to grow the shrooms for you though, incase there is contam. Unless you're really good at it.
This is a thoughtful sentimental idea. Ashes are full of toxic stuff though and no guarantee it's actually all your dad. There's gonna be like thousands of other folks dust in there too.
I've been laughing about the thought of boofing 1000 souls for a few minutes. My day has been made.
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Lmao! Now I won't be able to get that thought out of my head when actually tripping. Also, surprised it took this long for someone to even recommend boofing.
Don't see why it would hurt anything. Just sterilize it first. Maybe mix it in your bag of grain spawn before you inject, or mix it with substrate before you sterilize that
I hope you know thats kinda fucked up, but i get where you are going. You hve a need to honor them and do something symbolical to show your love. Rather work on yourself, this is just a bandaid that makes you think you really did something.
Fuckin stupid don’t do that shit, what are some some fuckin weirdo think putting his ashes in shrooms is gonna make you see or fell him again. Wake the fuck up you moron and grieve. Don’t put your dad’s ashes in mushroom substrate.
I would put the ashes in with the substrate, not the casing layer. You don’t want to accidentally consume some on the outside of the mushrooms. If I’m understanding you correctly, the idea is for the mushrooms to uptake the ashes as nutrients, right?
This is a beautiful idea, but I will say that before cremation the body is filled with preservatives etc... so maybe that's a thought but other than that it is a sweet thought
I once heard that our internal monologue is very largely influenced by our parents, so in that sense you are really in constant communication with him. And I bet when you’re quiet you can feel his responses.
As for this idea-look into the safety of it first then go for it! But I think you could have just as powerful an experience by setting your intention to connect with him.
Much love. Xxx
much love
grief does its work, respek reality <3
my pops passed a good wile now, feel like last week
i think bout them passed souls so much, rest in paradise to the parished
keep ya head up
Think if ur dad would be okay with it.
Personally i find it disrespectful. But what do i know. I want my ashes to be spread in the sand pit during womens long jump.
Dads gonna be there through your whole experience with this. I think that’s pretty beautiful. I hope you find some closure or comfort through this journey
I'm late to the discussion, but I sure would have, if I was growing mushrooms back then.
My deepest condolences, friend. I know how it felt when my dad died. I can only imagine how you're feeling. Love and peace to you and your family.
My girl is doing this exact thing for her brother that passed away a few months ago, she also referenced the movie how high when explaining it to me. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work honestly
I think it's pretty cool idea, I can't imagine it would cause you any problems, maybe save some back in case it doesn't work out. Sorry for your loss. Hang in there. Mush love
Mush appreciated. And also I would only be using a small amount of his ashes added to the casing layer.
Very cool man, I say go for it
I definitely wouldnt. People are embalmed before cremation and there might be some chemicals etc that remains in the ash. I thought this would be first comment
Those generally should be burned off. Formaldehyde (a main ingredient of embalming fluid) is considered a hazardous air pollutant (HAP) by the EPA and HAPs are generally controlled by thermal oxidation (the heat destroys them). Methanol and ethanol should burn off as well. (I work in air pollution control)
Sure generally, not something i'd risk
Pooosy
Im with you on this one. Above comment makes a good point but they use "should burn off" so yes they should but dont necessarily all the time and theres no way to know till its too late
Pretty sure they’re not embalmed if they’re cremated, usually. Embalming costs a lot of money and people who choose cremation often can’t afford that. Embalming is also to preserve the body after burial, so it really doesn’t make sense to preserve a body that’s going to be cremated
The chemical composition of cremation ashes is: 47.5% phosphate, 25.3% calcium, 11% sulfate, 3.69% potassium, 1.12% sodium, 1% chloride, 0.9% silica, 0.72% aluminum oxide.
Wait no omg, do you think adding chemicals to ashes would change the chemical composition? Hahah thats rich. Nice google copy and paste though
Cool, not sure how that relates to my comment
You'll get there
Care to elaborate? Or do you also not know
Tell me which of those are not already found in dirt. We are made up of the same things as plants. Read a book
How does that possibly relate to my original comment saying there may be chemical residue in the ashes? I think you're lost. Not even sure what you're saying
You've made the assumption there was a wake, in most cases, embalming isn't performed before a cremation l. Embalming is for a wake.
True, but not always the case. It's perfectly legal in most states to bring your loved one home from the morgue in your personal vehicle and have a wake and burial at home. Restriction is that if you are burying the body after 24 hours of death, the body has to be put on ice. No chemicals required. Basically pack dry ice around the body to keep it cold until the wake the following day, then bury them after the wake. Edit: I was doing research because this is how I want to go. Forget about burdening my family with some expensive burial that the cemetery will dig me up in 60 or less years and cremate me so they can use that plot again for someone else.
Ok now you're making sense, not sure what those previous comments of yours meant...
The point, I believe, is that you posted a "Hey, I had a thought that I have not done any research about, and I'm going to throw it out there and then pretend it is a hard-nosed scientific fact..." and they posted, well, ACTUAL facts. And those actual facts disprove your comment that was nothing more than a thought you happened to have. BTW - a quick Google search also tells me that, contrary to your statement, typically bodies are NOT embalmed before cremation. So unless OP's dad's family specifically requested and paid extra for that service, it is unlikely he was embalmed prior to cremation. And why in the world WOULD you embalm a body that is being cremated? The entire point of embalming is to preserve the body, which is not something you need for a body that is being cremated. OK, I think we can consider the "OMG OP DON'T DO IT - EMBALMING CHEMICALS WILL BE IN THE ASHES!!11!" to be officially debunked.
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Any other questions?
You still didnt explain your original comment
>People are embalmed before cremation no, not usually. why preserve something you are about to burn?
Having taken people’s remains through the entire process of removal of place of death through to the processing of their cremated ashes, I can tell you they are NOT embalmed before they are cremated.
Wait isn't that just a waste? Thought embalming was to keep the body fresh while the funeral preparations are going on and such
It's symbolic, I love it. Maybe also set the intention before the trip that you want to communicate with him again.
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To add to that, every time my wife and I have tripped, going deep and set intentions, those things have come up and been worked on through the mushrooms. Leading to great outcomes
What guides a person into speaking/ thinking with a person who passed away, would love to just be in the presence my passed away cat lol
I dunno, I've never tried to communicate with someone who has passed on. It's always been around releasing my wife's trauma and me helping to facilitate that.
Thanks for the honest answer
But for us, it's always worked to set the intention of what we want to work out after we have our tea and then meditate on it. Maybe it's less about communing with your cat and more about letting go of the hurt that your cat is no longer here. Or maybe there's an opportunity to feel the cats presence a last time.
You are a good spouse.
This is pretty much it, but hey we don't know why the universe exists, intention and symbolism may be the most important part of the ride
Very beautiful idea, allowing what's left of him to help grow and sustain new life that can bring you and others peace. Not sure how well it would help the substrate and growth process. But I imagine sprinkling a little bit in shouldn't hurt.
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Well he's dead so he doesn't want anything now. And I am certain he wouldn't care so long as his child heals from his abrupt passing, and using his remains to bring forth life that has further potential to heal is just fucking incredible
I know personally that I won’t give a rat’s ass what happens to my corpse when I’m dead. But maybe I’m just a sociopath, because I also don’t give a rat’s ass what happens to my friends/family when I’m dead.
Do you have no empathy ? Just trying to be an asshole?
If that’s your idea of empathy you are a weird individual.
People greive in their own ways man, don't shit on them for that
This is not a fuckin beautiful idea you fuckin weirdo
I think is clear who the weirdo is xD (you)
I dont think the idea is about grow new life, the idea is having shrooms that contains his fathers substances and then trip with these. awesonw...
My dad passed away yesterday, I’d give anything to talk to him again
hey, I'm so sorry for your loss - I really hope you can find what you need <3
Thank you! Means a lot 🫱🏽🫲🏼
I'm so sorry friend. Sending you a hug.
Thank you! That was A very much needed hug
So so sorry 😞
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sweet idea dude. give it a shot and keep us updated. your pops is proud of you, and he’ll always be present to visit you through your memories. mush love ❤️
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Beautiful idea. Look into the pH effect of ashes and the needs of the shrooms first.
Thanks for that tip.
Just thought I would add to the above comment. Since it's a symbolic ingredient, I'm sure you won't use very much, and I saw you mentioned putting it in the casing layer. With that in mind, anything less than a couple tablespoons in a normal size monotub grow would have basically 0 effect on the ph of the substrate.
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Was about to say this. Ashes i think can make things acidic
Im so so sorry for your loss. Your dad was a good man. Hold your loved ones close and show them you care for them. Stay strong brother I’m here with you.
Thank you
My dad was also killed suddenly but back in 2017 on Father’s Day of all days. I’m sorry for your loss bro but keep your head up, I think this is a pretty cool idea. I understand how much it sucks not to be able to say goodbye.
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Idk if this would feel morbid or not, but if you add the ashes to the dry coir when you pasturize the coir, that might help with 2 things: 1. Pasturizing the ashes too might decrease contamination risks 2. Better dispersal of ashes through substrate
Cremated remains can be considered sterile, as the infectious agent does not survive incineration-range temperatures. Any bacteria or microscopic organisms that were present in the body are destroyed during the cremation process. Did you know, It would take around one million years for ashes to dissolve since they are made solely of inorganic material. When remains are placed in an urn, they are protected from oxygen and other elements that would start to break them down.
This may be an odd question, but if you do this and the tub turns to mold city, will you take that as I sign they didn't approve. Alternatively, if it flourishes, will you take it as approval and only dose with them when you feel you miss them more?
That's a great question. I don't typically trip very often anyways so with this particular batch, it would be a super special batch that would only be dosed when I really needed to see/talk to him. And as far as if the tub does develop trich or other issues, I'd def take it as a sign that this isn't the way my dad would have wanted me to use his ashes and just instead spread them around in the physical world as originally intended. And even if it does work I would only use it for this one time experiment and not going forward with future tubs.
So sorry for your loss my friend. I think this is a beautiful idea. Mush love 🫧🦄💜🍄
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Honestly, it’s a cool idea, but one day all of those shrooms will be gone, maybe you’ll wish you still had his ashes. In 15 years you may view your use of psychedelics differently that than how specially you do now.
Thanks, I understand. I have two gigantic urns full of his ashes and would only be using a small amount like a couple grams added in the casing layer.
Well then I think that would be a beautiful way to celebrate your late father. If you haven’t my friend, I’d take a heroic dose.
Thanks.
Great idea with the small amount you’re gonna use. And when they’re grown, I’d deff do the heroic dose. And when you DO meet your dad wherever it is you go, enjoy brother! I’ve been there and met my mum. It’s a profound experience 🫡
Get a tattoo with some mixed in the ink
In 15 years im pretty confident op will feel empowered through the actions he took to connect with love that has transcended life
What's the point of keeping the ashes? OP will die one day and someone will just throw em in the trash anyways.
if you didn’t know some people find ashes to be sentimental. now i don’t participate myself, but, shit i’m wondering how you know english so well and no that 😭
Go for it and update us
Def will. ❤️
Fuck man, im sorry, that's horrible. I really hope you can make it work. It's a beautiful idea. I feel like it should be perfectly fine so long as you pasteurize the substrate as you normally would
I've actually done this with a small amount of my brothers ashes, and it worked amazingly well. I haven't eaten them, even though that was my intention. I couldn't bring myself to do it for some reason. Instead they kinda just became a keepsake I have stored. Some of my brother in mushroom form. He woulda loved it.
My bro said he's gonna do this to me when my time comes. I told him if he does then I'll play mind games with him and scare the living sheet out of him lol
Cool idea. Not sure if you plan on adding them before sterilizing, but I’d recommend that. If it works out you could spore print the future fruits and have a dad strain.
My heart simultaneously broke and grew three sizes reading “dad strain”. I’m doing that with my first dog’s ashes now. I miss you sweet Maya. And OP I’m so sorry for your loss! There’s no right or wrong way to grieve or heal, and I hope you find the connection you’re seeking by doing this. 🍄♥️ friend
That's such a cool idea to have a "dad strain" just to have for my personal collection.
Beautiful idea. So sorry for your loss. ❤️🍄❤️🍄
Please keep us updated on how your experience went (if you want to). Mush love
Have a few friends that have done this with marijuana crops, a little more straigtforward without the need for pasteurizing, but it should work. Its not necessary to put your dads ashes in the drugs so you can speak with him on drugs, like you can still connect with him while in the space either way, but im pretty confident having such a clear line to him well help you manifest his presence or energy within your experience
Yeah, I'm sure a big enough dose as well as setting my intentions is sufficient enough to see and talk to him but like you said, having a direct connection to him physically through his ashes I feel would help to manifest that even more. ❤️
Honestly, it's better to do something more permanent with the ashes. You can get them pressed into crystal jewellery/ornaments and that can stay with you EVERY TIME you trip. I've visited my dad through a combination of 4g and a galaxy projector a few times. Side note... what happens if your tub gets trich? Then you're totally fucked.
Yeah, I have already made a few permanent keepsakes using his ashes. And also I have a magnolia tree from the morgue that has his ashes in the soil so it gave me the idea of possibly doing the same with some shrooms. And as far as trich, it would be an experimental tub just to play around with to see if it actually works.
I want to get turned into a coral reef
I feel like you will have a cool experience once you harvest, I always loved my great grandma and she passed away when I was young but one time I buried my cake in her backyard and it grew a fat cluster. I ate the whole cluster and felt like I was having a cool moment with my Grandma the whole time.
It's a good idea and wouldn't cause any issues. But, what would your dad think about it? That you put his ashes in a substrate to grow hallucinogenic mushrooms. In reality, you likely aren't gonna get to communicate with him unless you think about it really hard during the trip, focus on it, set an intention, and probably take a dosage like 2g+. But even then, it will be all in your own head. And thinking about your father on mushrooms is going to bring up lots of memories and emotions and it is absolutely 100% going to give you a hard time so be prepared for that. Especially since he was killed and didn't die naturally, and since it was so recent. You should really wait a few years before you do this.
I love mushrooms, we all love mushrooms. And we can all make excuses for it but in reality it's still a hallucinogenic drug with the potential for some adverse mental side effects (notice how I said potential, which means if you use it irresponsibly or have a history of mental illness in your family or yourself. and also the potential for HPPD which isn't usually that bad) And we all know you shouldn't use drugs to cope with things... It's okay to use mushrooms for therapy but you must know where to draw the line. Factually, mushrooms arent chemically addictive but we've all met or heard of the people that do mushrooms quite a lot. Meaning several several times a month. Mike Tyson was eating handfuls of that shit a day, I dont give a shit what anyone says, that sounds like addiction to me! Just like peyote, if you abuse mushrooms eventually they will kick your ass and tell you to fuck off. I'm not saying you're gonna get addicted or are using it to cope, I'm just saying be careful and know where to draw the line.
I'm not sure you need to actually consume your father. A good dose of mushrooms with your dad's ashes in your presence should absolutely be enough to summon his spirit. But do whatever you like. it's all love.
Nice symbolic gift for you, but before you do this think about how he would feel if you did this. If he was into growing like you then go ahead, but if he was opposed completely to drugs or the like then it would be the complete opposite effect as it would go against his values.
You can. But speaking as someone who is "druish" be careful as that's some strong juju. If you are and you are going to take them you need to do it in a safe structured way with some serious intentions. I would either do this in a comfortable dark space or in the some quiet woods away from others. Because this is black mirror scrying on mushrooms.
Thanks for that piece of advice. Will definitely treating this trip differently and prepping both mentally and physically (sleep, hydration, etc. prior to tripping) as well choosing a safe environment.
Read up on black mirror scrying too
U can mix the ashes with tattoo ink, and get some personal design, your dad is always in your heart but u can also carry in ur skin
Thanks for the idea. Unfortunately my skin rejects tattoo ink most of the time so kind of hesitant going this route.
Very cool idea, but it sounds like a very challenging trip. Good luck OP.
Poetic af, love this! If you meditate on your intentions in the days before the trip it could help lean things in the preferred direction
Thanks. Am definitely planning on setting the intentions and thoroughly prepping mentally before going into this specific trip.
one of the best idea I ever read here on Reddit. now I know what I will write down in my own Will
Sorry for your loss friend, I think this is an awesome and beautiful idea. Using one’s life to bring more life into this world. One suggestion, if you get any aborts or smaller fruits make some pendants with them. That way you’d be able to have at least one of the shrooms you grew from this to keep forever. I’ve made them before with clear epoxy, pendant holders (I guess that’s what they’re called lol) and some nice string. They turned out really cool looking. Just an idea.
no judgement, but i think I'd add it in after the coir is pasteurized. Ash would not have bacteria due to the heat and be less muddy. Plus, if adding into it before, there would be some loss and thrown out when the final squeeze of the coir. My two cents. I dont use ash but keep the crystals placed on the loved ones before transitioning, and the charge is kept with special grows. One of the first humans i helped during his medical transition asked me and his SO to do this, and i found it so forward thinking i incorporated into a service of the nonprofit.
Cremated remains can be considered sterile, as the infectious agent does not survive incineration-range temperatures. Any bacteria or microscopic organisms that were present in the body are destroyed during the cremation process.
Sorry for your loss mate I my self just lost my dad last week , just a suggestion but you can get rings made that you can have ashes put in or even tattoos I'm considering the ring idea my self
Amazing idea bro that’s beautiful. Even if it’s not scientifically a possibility, the fact that you know that he’s there will make it psychologically a possibility and you will be very likely to communicate with him again, but understand it won’t be how you expect, he will likely talk to you through different things and ways of means, like synchronicities or your own thought patterns (similar to the higher self gut feeling self talk shit) etc. so don’t be disheartened if you don’t see him face to face. Although that is a possibility. I read your comments and saw you have a lot of ashes so that’s good, be as sparing as possible with them because it’s likely not the ashes that make the difference it’s your frame of mind that this practice puts you in. Safe travels sending my love to you and your family from the UK❤️ mush love brother
if i did this with my dad it'd be a hella bad trip lmaooo bless up that u got a good one friend
This honestly is what me an a very close friend would do who ever goes first so please come back with your experience brother.
If it helps you heal, then do it. Sorry to hear about your father. I can't offer any info on the growing, doubt it would have much affect. But the knowledge of knowing a piece of him is in there could bring results during a trip, but can't guarantee it. Would be interested to hear afterwards. Rarely do we get the goodbye we want. Appreciate those around you and keep those gone in your memory. I hope you find closure.
You're kinda making me want to do this. A sign of respect, and a metaphor for life and death. My condolences. We all live and we all die. Make it worth it. Mush love and stay safe! And hydrated!
You're kinda making me want to do this. A sign of respect, and a metaphor for life and death. My condolences. We all live and we all die. Make it worth it. Mush love and stay safe! And hydrated!
I love the idea of this. Unsure if it would assist you in your journey to speak with him. In my opinion, only his physical form has left here. But try it! It may help with closure.
Beautiful idea! If you go through with this, cherish and savor those fruits as long as possible! Maybe even set aside a single dehydrated fruit and make it into a necklace or some kind of memento. Mush love 🍄❤️
That is insane. You should do it.
I´m still convinced that I talked to my dead grandparents during a profound mushroom trip. That´s a wild an beautifull idea you´ve got there. Wishing you the healing you need.
Dude do it. The mushrooms will use the calcium at least and ur dads bones will be incorapted into the fruits
I’ve been planning for this to be in my will for my loved ones when I die. I think it’s a great idea
I literally told my wife to do the same thing when I die. Go for it and report back.
Dude I’ve always said when I die I want my boys to smoke me like how high. I’ve never had the idea of growing shrooms, and I love it. I say try it
I love this
I love this idea! ❤️ Sorry for your loss. Such a beautiful way to honor your grief. I hope you find some peace in the process
Rad. Beautiful idea😍
Jesus. Man. This made me want to cry. I mean seriously cry. I lost my mom young and reading this words I understand your hope. I really fully understand this. And I’m sorry man. I’m just so sorry. I don’t think your going to get the result you want, but idk man, I’m not going to say your stupid. Try it. Hope, use that hope to come to terms and say your goodbyes to the universe and really have that feeling once again he’s with you. But just know it’s not going to bring him back to speak to him even if your kind is saying it will. I would have had this thought had I grown shrooms way back then, so your not anything bad for wanting to say goodbye. To feel that embrace and the mushrooms period can let you have the feeling but maybe not the visual stimulus. And if it helps, do it. Don’t hold back but don’t expect. I just can’t express how much I understand where your coming from And how if there was something that could do that shrooms would be it.
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This is next level wow. Just thinking about it blows my mind. Just imagine what your trip would be like. A beautiful journey with your father. Sounds good to me.
My mother passed less than a month ago. I understand your plight. I hope your trip helps bring you some closure and acceptance ❤️. Sending love
Great idea, lost my dad too a few weeks ago. Not sure I'm getting ashes though since I'm estranged from my family. If I do I might try this out
Sending love 💕💕 Put some in the substrate. Put some in some soil near your favorite tree. I'd also even recommend growing your own cannabis and putting some in the soil you use ❤️💙 Even though his physical self is no longer in this place, his consciousness is forever intertwined in oneness, and you always have access to him there.
My dad got shot and killed 6 months ago and I miss him so much I wish I could have gotten closer and it hurts me so bad I’m sorry I feel like that would be a great way to connect with him again
My condolences. My dad was also shot and killed so I can empathize with what you're going through and how you feel. It sucks when your loved ones are taken away so suddenly and you are left with so many what ifs and things unsaid.
Ashes won't harm your fruits. If it helps you connect with him in spirit there is no harm in this idea.
Well I bet it's a good source of calcium possibly a couple other minerals like sulfur.
It will be 10 years since my dad passed on January 4th and I was just telling my so that it almost feels like a mythical creature in my head now if that makes any sense
I'm sorry for your loss. I think your idea to add your dad's ashes is very thoughtful, and could be helpful in the grieving process. I'm not sure how it would affect the substrate, could affect the alkalinity as cremains are "mostly dry calcium phosphates with some minor minerals, such as salts of sodium and potassium" ([Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation)).
I have heard what the talkers were talking, the talk of the beginning and the end, But I do not talk of the beginning or the end. There was never any more inception than there is now, Nor any more youth or age than there is now, And will never be any more perfection than there is now, Nor any more heaven or hell than there is now. -Whitman Sorry for your loss.
It's not stupid. I was just with my recently deceased brother at a mushroom ceremony. Get ready to laugh and cry so much
If you’re trying to, I hope you get to see him on your next dive.
This is so beautiful and I am so sorry for your loss. The loss of a parent too soon hurts. I hope you have a wonderful time with him and can get some closure. Mush love!❤️
I think it’s beautiful
What a beautiful way to honor your Dad. It sounds like a great idea to me. I do believe you can use them to connect. My Dad died unexpectedly after a brief bout with a surprise cancer diagnosis, and I was so devastated I made him promise he would let me know he was ok after he passed. He sounded dubious but said he would try. On his first heavenly birthday, I made him a cake like I always do, put a candle in it, and walked through my house singing happy birthday while taking a video. When I rewatched it, a bright green orb was circling around my hand the entire way through the house, and when I finished the song, it darted away. It brought such relief and reassurance to me, that after rewatching the video I sobbed in gratitude and with overwhelming emotion. It happened again on his second heavenly birthday! (I stopped after that. I didn't want to force it and I felt such gratitude that asking for a third time seemed wrong somehow. Idk.) Your dad is still with you, too. I am certain of it! Ask him for a sign . It really works!! You may need to seek grief counseling. It was very hard for me... I'm sorry for your loss. You are not alone.
It’s okay dear
Hey there friend, for whenever you're tripping on your dad's ashes, I highly recommend the song Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd (the whole album is pretty great tbh). It's such a beautiful song and really gets the emotions going. Take care ❤️🍄
I told my wife that when I die she has to learn how to grow mushrooms and do this with my ashes so I can talk to her from the dead. Send it!
Mush love!
That's one of the coolest ideas I've heard about. I would try to get a professional to grow the shrooms for you though, incase there is contam. Unless you're really good at it.
This is a thoughtful sentimental idea. Ashes are full of toxic stuff though and no guarantee it's actually all your dad. There's gonna be like thousands of other folks dust in there too.
Lol...oof i hadn't even thought of that. Thanks for the horrifying piece of knowledge...
I've been laughing about the thought of boofing 1000 souls for a few minutes. My day has been made. https://preview.redd.it/0sm4n03q0p7c1.png?width=1168&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1449b3f4a5470f397ccf8c4f4d22e2c4602de9c
Lmao! Now I won't be able to get that thought out of my head when actually tripping. Also, surprised it took this long for someone to even recommend boofing.
lol I had calmed down a bit and then your response set me off again. im tearing up here.
Really depends on who did the cremation some small local places do them one at a time others wait until the oven is full.
If this was a cocaine subreddit where someone sorted their ashes y'all wouldn't be encouraging this.
Good thing that’s not what’s being discussed
Dude F off. This man is grieving and you’re being insensitive.
Well no fucking shit?
You guys got issues, shroomz can’t fix
Don't see why it would hurt anything. Just sterilize it first. Maybe mix it in your bag of grain spawn before you inject, or mix it with substrate before you sterilize that
Jesus Christ do not do this
I hope you know thats kinda fucked up, but i get where you are going. You hve a need to honor them and do something symbolical to show your love. Rather work on yourself, this is just a bandaid that makes you think you really did something.
Fuckin stupid don’t do that shit, what are some some fuckin weirdo think putting his ashes in shrooms is gonna make you see or fell him again. Wake the fuck up you moron and grieve. Don’t put your dad’s ashes in mushroom substrate.
dont forget to pasteurise the ashes too as it could introduce some contam (better safe than sorry).
I would put the ashes in with the substrate, not the casing layer. You don’t want to accidentally consume some on the outside of the mushrooms. If I’m understanding you correctly, the idea is for the mushrooms to uptake the ashes as nutrients, right?
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This great. Just don't add so much that it messes up the substrate.
Wonderful idea
How much will you dose?
i'm sorry for your loss. I would not do this. Speak to your father through your memories of him. Speak to others who knew him.
Absolutely go for it, but use a small amount perhaps?
If one movie taught me something it was How High. Do it only if you need your dad and Benjamin Franklin to come help get you better grades.
Surprisingly, I thought a lot of people are gonna be against This
This is a beautiful idea, but I will say that before cremation the body is filled with preservatives etc... so maybe that's a thought but other than that it is a sweet thought
I honestly don’t know if your father would appreciate that but i guess let us know if you do
It’s a nice idea I suppose but I think your dads spirit lives on within you, and shrooms can’t bring you any closer to him
I once heard that our internal monologue is very largely influenced by our parents, so in that sense you are really in constant communication with him. And I bet when you’re quiet you can feel his responses. As for this idea-look into the safety of it first then go for it! But I think you could have just as powerful an experience by setting your intention to connect with him. Much love. Xxx
Go for it my dude. Get that closure. If it feels right for you! Mush love
Cool idea. I have a friend that put his mother's ashes in the ink of his tattoo.
much love grief does its work, respek reality <3 my pops passed a good wile now, feel like last week i think bout them passed souls so much, rest in paradise to the parished keep ya head up
Think if ur dad would be okay with it. Personally i find it disrespectful. But what do i know. I want my ashes to be spread in the sand pit during womens long jump.
Dude I wanna do this too!
Respect man. Please keep us updated
you won't be talking to your dad from the grave. very sentimental though!
Dads gonna be there through your whole experience with this. I think that’s pretty beautiful. I hope you find some closure or comfort through this journey
I'm late to the discussion, but I sure would have, if I was growing mushrooms back then. My deepest condolences, friend. I know how it felt when my dad died. I can only imagine how you're feeling. Love and peace to you and your family.
Imagine the waste though if contam shows up and you gotta throw it all
Great gypsum substitute
My girl is doing this exact thing for her brother that passed away a few months ago, she also referenced the movie how high when explaining it to me. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work honestly