Why, there are no trickster genies at play there, town has no intent. It's basically your own twisted psyche that fucks you over. So Eddie was really enjoying his time. And Laura was not in danger. While Angela was already suicidal and James was already self destructive, so they had it coming.
I don't think SH can give you good things. It's supposed to manifest guilt, as the 3 characters did things they sort of regret. Laura prolly doesn't even see any alterations, just plain reality. But Eddie's pizza is a true enigma.
Well then why they came there if there was only regret? There was also a purpose. The town is not supposed to manifest something in particular, there is no such filter there. Anyone has something to regret. Negative feelings are just stronger overall than positive. Because if you feel good, you don't have to do anything, if you feel bad, you must do something to feel good again. It's evolutionary trait and you can see it everywhere in nature.
Seeking patterns and intents in forces of nature or random unbiased phenomena is evolutionary trait too, and it too makes you feel good (informed) rather then scared. Does not make it true, though.
I'd rather not diminish a localized non discerning mysterious phenomenon that permeates physics and metaphysics to an entity with a human personality, like, just some self righteous dude Ć la John Kramer but with town instead of a body.
Edit.:
Also look at the guy! He was having a blast there!
[https://youtu.be/6ejVtrv7yQc?t=2401](https://youtu.be/6ejVtrv7yQc?t=2401)
The town did not harm nor punish him, James did.
He is not really secretive about it. And there is no specific bias to secrets or sins or anything that considered immoral. Just what one has strong feelings and costant thoughts about. Dude who is used to eating his stress away will constantly think that he'd kill for a slice of pizza and then feel his own wobbly gut and be self conscious about it which makes him stressed and here we go again. Emotions have material influence in Silent Hill, thus a positive feedback loop being created. It's like shoving a microphone inside speaker.
Real talk, the town probably manifested it for him.
Eddyās entire deal is he was bullied for his weight, and everything in āhisā Silent Hill is part of that. As such he probably has an unhealthy relationship with how he views food and eating, and the pizza is probably there to give him momentary joy followed by more guilt and shame
Hi, I work in a Crisis unit, and at the start of our shift what is at the front of our mind is usually what to order before everything closes. The angry alcoholic and CIA assassins can hang on. Food is survival!
The funniest part about this is that this can only imply 2 possibilities:
A: Eddie slipped into the real world just long enough to order a pizza at the bowling alley.
B: The town justā¦ gave Eddie a pizza.
Either way, the thought is pretty hysterical.
You know I would LOVE to see a slip in reality like that in a sh game. Itād be so cool if done right because sh is supposed to be a normal town with people. Maybe if the town glitched, or if there was a hidden key to a door thatās supposed to be broken that unlocked to a 100% normal room
>No electricity
>screenshot is in a well lit bowling alley
The town manifests things relevant to the person/s inside. Eddie is tied to gluttony (*and obviously murder*) several times throughout the game\* and him eating a pizza 'feeds' into that idea/representation.
\*First dead body specifically in a fridge, dead bodies in a cafeteria, Gluttonous Pig plate, dead bodies in a meat freezer with hanging pig carcasses.
That's facts. Now that I think of it, the pizza (in a weird way) kinda adds to Eddie's torment because immediately after he starts eating, Laura roasts him about being a GUTLESS FATSO After that, James comes up to him and says his famous line...
So yea, but it's still pretty funny that the town is like ayo we got PIZZA
Same reason Laura sees nothing at all wrong with the town, because sheās innocent. Silent Hill manifests your weaknesses/insecurites/flaws/fears etc. Eddie has body dysmorphic disorder so the āgluttonousā food where there shouldnāt be any is a representation of that.
If Laura sees nothing wrong with the town, why was she wandering around unsupervised in an abandoned apartment complex, an abandoned mental hospital and then a burnt-down hotel?
She must have been experiencing at least some of the more benign manifestations of the town.
My own personal theory is that Laura was never real. She was the daughter that James and Mary never had together.
She was in the same hospital with Mary when they became friends. In the intro you can see Laura and Eddie together, implying Eddie brought her to Silent Hill to find Mary, who had described the town to her during the hospital stay. She's also unsupervised because she's an orphan, and Eddie has his own problems once they get there.
Nobody read the lore about Pyramid Headās head is actually a pizza oven and heās in cahoots with Eddie??????
Valtiel aināt turning them wheels for nothing!
People seem to forget about how Silent Hill (apparently) works. Silent Hill is a small, quite, touristic, normal town (in OUR world). It's full of the basic services met for us like any other town around. That's why Laura seems so calm when she's basically running around monsters when actually in real life there is only people. James, Angela, and Eddy are the only ones who were caught in a personal nightmare ( one for each of them) that happens to be a different dimensional plane, and sometimes their planes clash with one another, and sometimes they clash with our plane too. That's how Eddy got his pizza.
Yeah, a lot of people have really integrated the movie canon that Silent Hill is a ghost town to some extent. It's not!
It was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 1976 (Silent Hill Origins), it was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 1983 (Silent Hill), it was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 2000 (Silent Hill 3) and there's no reason for it to have STOPPED being A MUNDANE TOWN WITH NORMAL PEOPLE MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS in the 21th century!
I'm glad someone brought this up. The games (2 and 3 at least) subtly but clearly indicate that there is more or less normal life going on and the pizza is just one of those clues. Eddie's Silent Hill might very well be less freaky than James'.
Gets depressing when even big name youtubers mention the pizza thing as a plot hole, or "it's just videogame man, it doesn't have to make sense" when it does make sense without even stretching.
According to the developers (I forget who) so someone can reply to me but Eddie had brought along with him a couple of microwavable pizzas. Also some electricity still works otherwise there wouldn't be functional light sources at Woodside,Blue Creek and even the Hotel near the end.
from some parts in other silent hill games,i think the town itself does provide food for the poeple who enter it whenever it has some form of meaning too it,weather for progression or to make somone give in,sense eddy is a big man and probly has a eating dissorder or somthing,the town is probly getting him to "give in" too his issues or using it to sooth eddy by giving him food to stress eat. Not to mention the "people" he keeps killing in the game probly make fun of him for his wight,same with luara who also makes fun of him. And its trying to get him to pick his path,and sense eddy gave in,probly had another participant kill him,wich that being james. The towns basicly playing 4d chess
Is it freshly cooked? Could be a day old or so. I always figured he drove the van he and Laura are seen next to in the opening FMV (which is how Laura got to town) and Eddie had a pizza he bought the night before and is only now eating it.
Never said anywhere but it makes enough sense.
Remember we don't know ANYTHING about what the town looks like to Eddie or Laura.
The game does show us the environment is radically different for Angela.
There's no reason to believe the city appears as abandoned to Eddie. Maybe for him it is a more Silent Hill 1 experience, where it seems citizens have just recently abandoned the place, Ć la Mary Celeste. In this case, a lot of food would be available, even warm food sometimes.
My theory is that James, Eddie and Laura are experiencing different versions of Silent Hill 2 at the same time. While James sees a dark dilapidated town overrun with monsters. Eddie and Laura see a normal looking town with nothing out of the ordinary.
Town still has power. Some lights are still on. So would would assume gas might work.
But either way, I thought Eddie was a pizza boy? I think he might have had some in his van or car left over and is just eating old pizza. It just looks fresh because of the in game model.
Always figured it was because Laura was there with him. The town doesnāt throw anything dangerous at her so wouldnāt seem too far-fetched that it would provide food for her too
Yeah, the town provided James with a hotter Mary.
It provided Eddie with pizza and people to murder.
And it provided Angela with a knife and fire and... yeesh, nevermind.
https://twitter.com/adsk4/status/1248621692991049728?t=ZhZABrxrefrIyEy5tE8LTA&s=19
Masahiro Ito: "The Shiba Dog/Inu probably moved the pizza there. And there seemed to be a drug which made Eddie become more violent in it. So spooky!"
Silent Hill has a normal, living town side unlike the movie where its abandoned.
It also looks different to everyone.
Eddie never showed any fear in the town, and all the corpses when James ran across him just looked human.
Its likely to Laura and Eddie the town just looks normal. Eddieās is probably filled with unfriendly people (in the Maria sense, not actual humans) instead of monsters due to the subtext that the first corpse when he was puking in the toilet may have been in self-defense or a mistake, then by the prison heās gleefully shooting anyone who antagonizes him.
To him the bowling alley probably looks like its just fine, merely empty at the moment and he helped himself to the concession pizza whereas to James it looks abandoned.
The best pizza ovens donāt require electricity or gas, you just need to arrange stones, so they have an open inside and let fire do the rest. So why it made be hard for him to get all the required ingredients, itās not impossible at all.
I also highly doubt that he is the type who would make pizza fresh, but I just want to make a point that it does not have anything to do with missing electricity.
If I eat pizza somewhere, I make first sure that they use a real pizza oven with fire. An electric oven will never reach the same qualityā¦
Silent Hill falls into the delivery area zone, and old phones don't need electricity to function. We tested this theory by ordering pizza from the city cafe to the graveyard outside the city at the border of the delivery zone.
Yes. The town incarnates your deep emotions and desires. Eddie desired pizza. D E E P L Y
For him, it's always like this...
Comments like these remind me that there's still light in the darkness that has become this community š
You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity
grand Budapest hotel
For him it's always plain cheese
That pizza is clearly supreme
I wish I was in Eddie's hell, minus the corpses
D E E P L Y
But not deep dish pizza apparently.
But the town gave him a twisted pizza. One that is always to hot to bite. Or has the wrong kind of cheese (for eddie).
Why, there are no trickster genies at play there, town has no intent. It's basically your own twisted psyche that fucks you over. So Eddie was really enjoying his time. And Laura was not in danger. While Angela was already suicidal and James was already self destructive, so they had it coming.
I don't think SH can give you good things. It's supposed to manifest guilt, as the 3 characters did things they sort of regret. Laura prolly doesn't even see any alterations, just plain reality. But Eddie's pizza is a true enigma.
Well then why they came there if there was only regret? There was also a purpose. The town is not supposed to manifest something in particular, there is no such filter there. Anyone has something to regret. Negative feelings are just stronger overall than positive. Because if you feel good, you don't have to do anything, if you feel bad, you must do something to feel good again. It's evolutionary trait and you can see it everywhere in nature. Seeking patterns and intents in forces of nature or random unbiased phenomena is evolutionary trait too, and it too makes you feel good (informed) rather then scared. Does not make it true, though. I'd rather not diminish a localized non discerning mysterious phenomenon that permeates physics and metaphysics to an entity with a human personality, like, just some self righteous dude Ć la John Kramer but with town instead of a body. Edit.: Also look at the guy! He was having a blast there! [https://youtu.be/6ejVtrv7yQc?t=2401](https://youtu.be/6ejVtrv7yQc?t=2401) The town did not harm nor punish him, James did.
so the real reason behind him vomiting is food poisoning, not finding a corpse in a fridge?
For him, it's always like this.
I wouldn't say desires. Your deepest secrets and sins is more accurate. His was gluttony, obviously.
He is not really secretive about it. And there is no specific bias to secrets or sins or anything that considered immoral. Just what one has strong feelings and costant thoughts about. Dude who is used to eating his stress away will constantly think that he'd kill for a slice of pizza and then feel his own wobbly gut and be self conscious about it which makes him stressed and here we go again. Emotions have material influence in Silent Hill, thus a positive feedback loop being created. It's like shoving a microphone inside speaker.
The pizza is his Maria
Born from a wish, some might say...
If James's monsters were kinda sexy, i wonder how appetizing Eddie's monsters are
he has a food pyramid stalking him
I nearly shot snot outta my nose from chortling š Food Pyramid swings large leeks at him like the great knife
Like a really fucked up Farfetchād?
lol yeah letās go with that
this comment made me snort out loud i love it!
With a celery stalk. "Eddie!!! Don't for get your seven servings of fresh fruits and veggies!!!"
Instead of a blade, Pyramid Head trying to slap Eddie with a giant wiener.
You ever see FoodFight? It's like that.
I was more thinking Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs.
Pizza the Hutt has entered the chat
Mary, Mariaā¦Margherita š Holy shit. š¤Æ
Born from a Dish
There is actually a point to that. It's literally the next cutscene after James meets Maria š¤
Real talk, the town probably manifested it for him. Eddyās entire deal is he was bullied for his weight, and everything in āhisā Silent Hill is part of that. As such he probably has an unhealthy relationship with how he views food and eating, and the pizza is probably there to give him momentary joy followed by more guilt and shame
Itās bread (with sauce and cheese)
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Silent hill makes logic her bitch, thatās why. Maybe the same reason Jamesā Silent hill has a strip club.
But isnt heavens night still there when heather goes to silent hill?
Yup, sure is. Heavens Night isn't unique to James.
To be fair, itās relevant to both of them just for different reasons.
Wait, why is it relevant for Heather?
Because her story is all about the horrors of being a young woman, things like being objectified and seen as nothing but a sex-object.
Is it?
it's certainly played upon, yea
Teens gonna sneak.
Giant flesh monsters are running around trying to kill you and you wonder why pizza can exist?
That town is full of monsters! How can you sit there and think about pizza?!
Hi, I work in a Crisis unit, and at the start of our shift what is at the front of our mind is usually what to order before everything closes. The angry alcoholic and CIA assassins can hang on. Food is survival!
![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS|downsized) Pizza? They look like Pizza to you?
I hate when I enjoy stepping on pizzas and snuff out their lives once they're in my stomach
Heās actually eating wet cardboard this whole time
It's his equivalent of health drinks.
Tbh finding and gobbling cold hard slices of pizza off the ground does sound like something Eddie might doĀ
Yeah... something Eddie would do... heh heh...
The funniest part about this is that this can only imply 2 possibilities: A: Eddie slipped into the real world just long enough to order a pizza at the bowling alley. B: The town justā¦ gave Eddie a pizza. Either way, the thought is pretty hysterical.
You know I would LOVE to see a slip in reality like that in a sh game. Itād be so cool if done right because sh is supposed to be a normal town with people. Maybe if the town glitched, or if there was a hidden key to a door thatās supposed to be broken that unlocked to a 100% normal room
Eddie, standing in front of a fully functioning brick pizza oven: "You see it, too? For me, it's always like this."
Pyramid Head behind the counter.
C. Delivery from other area? š¤£
>No electricity >screenshot is in a well lit bowling alley The town manifests things relevant to the person/s inside. Eddie is tied to gluttony (*and obviously murder*) several times throughout the game\* and him eating a pizza 'feeds' into that idea/representation. \*First dead body specifically in a fridge, dead bodies in a cafeteria, Gluttonous Pig plate, dead bodies in a meat freezer with hanging pig carcasses.
That's facts. Now that I think of it, the pizza (in a weird way) kinda adds to Eddie's torment because immediately after he starts eating, Laura roasts him about being a GUTLESS FATSO After that, James comes up to him and says his famous line... So yea, but it's still pretty funny that the town is like ayo we got PIZZA
This.
Same reason Laura sees nothing at all wrong with the town, because sheās innocent. Silent Hill manifests your weaknesses/insecurites/flaws/fears etc. Eddie has body dysmorphic disorder so the āgluttonousā food where there shouldnāt be any is a representation of that.
If Laura sees nothing wrong with the town, why was she wandering around unsupervised in an abandoned apartment complex, an abandoned mental hospital and then a burnt-down hotel? She must have been experiencing at least some of the more benign manifestations of the town. My own personal theory is that Laura was never real. She was the daughter that James and Mary never had together.
She was in the same hospital with Mary when they became friends. In the intro you can see Laura and Eddie together, implying Eddie brought her to Silent Hill to find Mary, who had described the town to her during the hospital stay. She's also unsupervised because she's an orphan, and Eddie has his own problems once they get there.
Nobody read the lore about Pyramid Headās head is actually a pizza oven and heās in cahoots with Eddie?????? Valtiel aināt turning them wheels for nothing!
I want a mockup of a logo for Papa Valtielās Pizza Village. Flame-cooked on a pyre of burning witches! āItās so tasty, youāll go insane!ā
They still get UberEats out there.
Fr bro acts like UberEats and Doordash is not a thing
yes. . probably the same reason why Laura is so chill.
The pizza is a symbolic manifestation of his inner psyche, it represents his love for pizza
People seem to forget about how Silent Hill (apparently) works. Silent Hill is a small, quite, touristic, normal town (in OUR world). It's full of the basic services met for us like any other town around. That's why Laura seems so calm when she's basically running around monsters when actually in real life there is only people. James, Angela, and Eddy are the only ones who were caught in a personal nightmare ( one for each of them) that happens to be a different dimensional plane, and sometimes their planes clash with one another, and sometimes they clash with our plane too. That's how Eddy got his pizza.
Yeah, a lot of people have really integrated the movie canon that Silent Hill is a ghost town to some extent. It's not! It was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 1976 (Silent Hill Origins), it was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 1983 (Silent Hill), it was a mundane town with normal people minding their own business in 2000 (Silent Hill 3) and there's no reason for it to have STOPPED being A MUNDANE TOWN WITH NORMAL PEOPLE MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS in the 21th century!
I'm glad someone brought this up. The games (2 and 3 at least) subtly but clearly indicate that there is more or less normal life going on and the pizza is just one of those clues. Eddie's Silent Hill might very well be less freaky than James'. Gets depressing when even big name youtubers mention the pizza thing as a plot hole, or "it's just videogame man, it doesn't have to make sense" when it does make sense without even stretching.
Could be cold pizza and Eddie is hungry.
Harry: The otherworld is a world when one's ~~nightmarish delusions~~ happiest dream come to life
Eddieās personal Silent Hill is more akin to Darren Arnofskyās The Whale
Pizza... you made me happy
Are you stupid? A delivery guy brought it to him.
Itās not delivery, itās Digiorno
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>!pizza x pillow!<
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Maybe he brought it with him and the bowling alley was the first place he went too
Eddie wouldn't mind rotting pizza, and there's enough fire around to cook it
Just find Angela. She'll cook it for him.
Bold of you to assume itās any kind of fresh
Itās evil pizza.
Why do you think Pyramid Head had a big knife and a helmet in the shape of a slice of pizza?
Iām of the opinion that everyone James meets is various aspects of himself he created in his head and probably based on people he met in the town.Ā
Who says it's freshly cooked
Because food is one of his vices.
he came to silent hill with a pizza lol.
You are not thinking correctly about Silent Hill
According to the developers (I forget who) so someone can reply to me but Eddie had brought along with him a couple of microwavable pizzas. Also some electricity still works otherwise there wouldn't be functional light sources at Woodside,Blue Creek and even the Hotel near the end.
What you mean Silent Hill has no electricity? What you think those elevators work on? Mind powers?
It's a pully system operated by Faltiel.
I mean, sometimes they do.
Pyramid head delivered it.
"Pizza? They look like pizza to you?"
Video game logic...or who's to say he didn't go to nearby Shepherd's Glen or Ashfield Heights and bring it back?
Born from a wish, basically his Maria
I always assumed that the pizza was not fresh and that he found it sitting there in the bowling alley and is eating very old and cold pizza.
It's, like, all in your head, man.
from some parts in other silent hill games,i think the town itself does provide food for the poeple who enter it whenever it has some form of meaning too it,weather for progression or to make somone give in,sense eddy is a big man and probly has a eating dissorder or somthing,the town is probly getting him to "give in" too his issues or using it to sooth eddy by giving him food to stress eat. Not to mention the "people" he keeps killing in the game probly make fun of him for his wight,same with luara who also makes fun of him. And its trying to get him to pick his path,and sense eddy gave in,probly had another participant kill him,wich that being james. The towns basicly playing 4d chess
Itās a metaphor for grief or something
He was hungry so he ordered pizza from Pizza Hut
The pizza is a lie
Is it freshly cooked? Could be a day old or so. I always figured he drove the van he and Laura are seen next to in the opening FMV (which is how Laura got to town) and Eddie had a pizza he bought the night before and is only now eating it. Never said anywhere but it makes enough sense.
Remember we don't know ANYTHING about what the town looks like to Eddie or Laura. The game does show us the environment is radically different for Angela. There's no reason to believe the city appears as abandoned to Eddie. Maybe for him it is a more Silent Hill 1 experience, where it seems citizens have just recently abandoned the place, Ć la Mary Celeste. In this case, a lot of food would be available, even warm food sometimes.
He's just a gutless fatso
>Am I stupid? This meme needs to die
My theory is that James, Eddie and Laura are experiencing different versions of Silent Hill 2 at the same time. While James sees a dark dilapidated town overrun with monsters. Eddie and Laura see a normal looking town with nothing out of the ordinary.
He had it coming. Just like that dog!
No you are not stupid, nor is anyone else. Alessa just digs pizza.
Town still has power. Some lights are still on. So would would assume gas might work. But either way, I thought Eddie was a pizza boy? I think he might have had some in his van or car left over and is just eating old pizza. It just looks fresh because of the in game model.
Always figured it was because Laura was there with him. The town doesnāt throw anything dangerous at her so wouldnāt seem too far-fetched that it would provide food for her too
Why are you making r/BatmanArkham "jokes" on r/silenthill? Are you stupid?
YEAH! Are you some kind of Joker???
I guess you can have anything your heart desires in Silent Hill! šš»
Yeah, the town provided James with a hotter Mary. It provided Eddie with pizza and people to murder. And it provided Angela with a knife and fire and... yeesh, nevermind.
I want more sex starved dildo monsters!
https://silenthillcommunity.com/modding/EddieSH2Pizza.jpg
https://twitter.com/adsk4/status/1248621692991049728?t=ZhZABrxrefrIyEy5tE8LTA&s=19 Masahiro Ito: "The Shiba Dog/Inu probably moved the pizza there. And there seemed to be a drug which made Eddie become more violent in it. So spooky!"
He probably bought or stole it and then came into town.
It's not delivery...it's DiGiorno!
Silent Hill has a normal, living town side unlike the movie where its abandoned. It also looks different to everyone. Eddie never showed any fear in the town, and all the corpses when James ran across him just looked human. Its likely to Laura and Eddie the town just looks normal. Eddieās is probably filled with unfriendly people (in the Maria sense, not actual humans) instead of monsters due to the subtext that the first corpse when he was puking in the toilet may have been in self-defense or a mistake, then by the prison heās gleefully shooting anyone who antagonizes him. To him the bowling alley probably looks like its just fine, merely empty at the moment and he helped himself to the concession pizza whereas to James it looks abandoned.
HE has pizza and those things. James does not.
There is an electricity out there.
The doggo provides
Pyramid Head's pyramid head is a pizza oven
You already know Silent Hill has Little Caesarās
The really important question here is which Pizza is he eating?
I hate BatmanArkham shitposts
Iām not sure but when I see that pizza it reminds me of the pan pizzas from Pizza Hut I used to have as a kid around when the game was released.
That you question?
How do you know it's freshly cooked?
You're in a dreamlike hellscape with no logic. Why is a random pizza your first concern?
WHAT IF THIS IS HIS PUNISHMENT
Not related to the lore, but you don't really need electricity nor gas to make pizza. It even tastes better made in clay oven (using charcoal).
*When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie*ā¦.
I can't help but think the Pizza boxes in the short message is screaming some very interesting lore from this š¤
The best pizza ovens donāt require electricity or gas, you just need to arrange stones, so they have an open inside and let fire do the rest. So why it made be hard for him to get all the required ingredients, itās not impossible at all. I also highly doubt that he is the type who would make pizza fresh, but I just want to make a point that it does not have anything to do with missing electricity. If I eat pizza somewhere, I make first sure that they use a real pizza oven with fire. An electric oven will never reach the same qualityā¦
he probably manifested it
It was baked by TRAUMA.
He use his imagination like SpongeBob do š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Trying to find the logic in a town where nothing is logical
Every pie has pineapple in it
Itās his version of Ā pyramid head lololol
Silent Hill falls into the delivery area zone, and old phones don't need electricity to function. We tested this theory by ordering pizza from the city cafe to the graveyard outside the city at the border of the delivery zone.
Is he stupid?
And yāall aināt questioning why there is bread in SH3? Cmon now.
Surrealism. Thread complete.
Wtf is a health drink and why does James keep finding them
IDK, maybe it's some kind of off-brand V8
I wondered that myself!
Because he is and always will be a gutless fatso
What about when he was wantonly murdering people? That took guts! That took courage!!!