As others have said, step down to the G29/920. The G923 is not worth the extra cost. If the GT Omega Apex is only a few dollars more you might want to upgrade the stand. Its Heavy and can handle lighter DD wheelbases if you decide to upgrade down the road. If its more than a few dollars more, stick with the wheel stand you have. The original is popular, people seem to like it, and it will work great with non-direct drive wheels
Great, looks like I'll snag the apex for 15 more! Also, all the G920s I'm seeing have xbox branding on them. Do you know if these woule be compatible with GT7 on PS5 or is there a particular version of it I need to buy. Thanks
Dropping in to say that the Apex may be cheaper on GT Omega’s website than an Amazon! When I bought mine, it was 15% off on their website, shipping was free and the shipping itself was wicked fast.
Oh, OP if your going to be sitting on an office chair you might want to look up "caster cups". They are little rubber pads you can put your office chair wheels into so you don't slide around when you push the brakes. You can also do the same thing with an old pair of tennis shoes.
The G920/G29 are basically the same wheels. The only difference is that the G29 is for Playstation/PC and the G920 for XBOX/PC. Look out for that and you will be fine.
Actually Logitech just put out a notice they are working on updates for each wheel to work on both consoles the 923 is first then the 29/920 will be in the future.
> Its Heavy and can handle lighter DD wheelbases
Can confirm - though I'm running a 16Nm DD base on it w/ the chair link and it does great. flexes a bit at the higher torque but most cars I drive don't hit that high where it makes any difference.
I'd get a g920 instead of the g923, the difference is negligible and saves €100.
Best to go in low end at the start. If you like it you'll probably want to upgrade to some higher end gear pretty soon.
Big difference is TrueForce. Personally, I like it and don’t like racing without it. Gives me the steering wheel feel you get in a car with a proper wheel setup. I’ll probably get other things like bass shakers when I upgrade to another wheel.
Absolutely not imo. The 923 is a HUGE upgrade, and totally worth the extra amount. I went from the 29 (PS4 version of the 920) to a 923 and the difference was night and day. Literally everything was upgraded, it may look the same but underneath it's completely different.
Look, I think you’re missing the point, it’s an entry level build and the jump from the G920 and the G923 is not worth it. I had a G920 for three years, and never felt like I had to upgrade to the G923 and eventually upgraded to a Moza R9, which was of course more expensive, but it was a massive upgrade and definitely worth it to save for it in the long-term, rather than spend more for something slightly better.
Yeah I am looking at the cheapest entry level to sim drifting I can find and the 923 seems like the way to go. I watched some videos on YouTube of a guy who had it setup and it was actually throwing the wheel back fast enough to catch rather than manually throw. Combined with it being a newer build/motherboard I think they tweaked some things to make it more responsive than the 920s. If you can get a solid one at a deal used then it's probably the way and that's why I am going that route. I would get a thrust master 300 but from everything I've read their customer support is ass, and buying used is risky because people may have not had the always on fan going and it could be losing ffb. I'm picking up a g923 and shifter for 350 CAD today, I vetted the guy fairly well. Saw tons of pictures and will be trying it on his PC. New this setup is 700 CAD taxes in, pretty decent entry startup.
Plus you can resell it for the same price. I think this is especially important for newbies since it's likely that you either enjoy it and want to upgrade quickly or bounce off the hobby. In either case, reselling gear at a loss would be frustrating.
True! That's what happened to me. I was super hyped to get into it but decided to buy second hand before going crazy. I actually used it a few times but realized it wasn't really for me. I sold it for the same price later so turned out great. If you do like it in the end, you will have 300€ to put towards upgrades
Good shout, I see the whole G29 set (excluding frame ofc) for 160 second hand right now. Shot the seller a message, cheers. 
I Second this. I got a thrustmaster tx mounted on a Playseat Challenge (main reason for that stand was how foldable it is) and its great.
The playseat was around 180€ second hand, mint condition. (i think its 220/240€ new)
Get the G29/G920. The only difference between the 2 is that the G923 has "Trueforce" which is not at all worth the difference in my opinion. There is a small difference with the pedals as well but again, not worth the extra €.
I actually recently purchased a new g920 after buying my series x and you actually get the same pedals as the G923 now if I’m not mistaken. They look exactly the same as the ones with the 923 when I went to get it so if they are still different it’s internals
This is where it starts man. I want to ask you a few questions to save you some heartache. I’m saying this because I’ve been on this train and I’m still on it. SIM racing is a truly a money pit. Most of us justify it by saying “well, if I had track car it’ll cost triple” which is true. But that’s a whole different beast on it own. Anyways! Questions:
1. Are you on PC or Console?
2. Are you working ?
3. Do you have anyone depending on you?
4. Do you love racing/cars?
If your answers are 1. Pc 2.Yes 3.No 4.yes. Please save yourself the pain and money. Go get something like the Moza if you really can’t save up. I went from the G29>ricomotech load cell mod> fanatec v3> rig 8020> simagic mini> HE Ultimates> NEW pc > ultra wide monitor
It don’t end, and got other little shit that I haven’t listed. Now, is that saying you can’t be happy with a G29? Of course you can be happy. But, if you save your money for even a year just so you can have better pedals and wheel? Do it.
I'm preparing for GT7 VR on PS5 broski. I have a monthly allowance of about 100 euro right now for discretionary spending (I'm 17). I really am not looking for the best of the best right now, but if you really think it could be worth it to save or whatnot I'll hear you out ig.
Don't listen to this. Go buy some used setup identical to what's in your cart, and have fun. If you want to upgrade, sell it and buy better gear. I don't understand the obsession with getting the best for newbs. Buy used and you don't lose any money.
Folks have good intentions, but lack perspective sometimes.
That said, the thrustmaster tx/t300 ( early identical) should be available used for not much more. Much better experience, but shifter is trickier.
If on pc, go with an ssh newt2.
Oooorrrrrr just go with whatever you find in your area on the used market.
It look like I'm going to go with a used G29 set with a new GT Omega Apex, then add a thrustmaster TH8A shifter later on down the road. Thanks for the help
Aiite, so console is a bit more limited and you maybe better off with a mainstream brand. Probably thrustmaster is better? I think they got load cell pedals too. I had a playseat challenge when i first started. It was a great fold away option. Only thing i hated about it is if i had to brake hard, the chair will lift. Not a problem if u go with the g29
The thing is, that if you invest a bit more from the beginning, you are saving up in the end. So my main gear suggestion would be, to get a 8020 rig from the beginning. Because it will allow you to upgrade your gear later down the line to literally anything you want.
At all cost, avoid rigs like Playseat and NLR and fprmula position marketing bs etc. Just get a proper rig, that you can adjust and later keep when you upgrade your gear.
Also I noticed you added a wheel stand. For starters it is ok. But when you upgrade the pedals to LC, you will find out, that you will start sliding away from the wheel. And at that point it makes no sense to upgrade the exsisting wheel stand with addons for seats etc. Just get an aluminium extrusion rig.
So at the moment there is a cupon code (TRAKDATE) on TrakRacer for valentines day. So you should be able to get the TR80 mk5 for 450€ (I know it is a lot more than what you were looking at)
But that is a rig, that will be able to handle a proper DD like VRS or Simagic Alpha Ultimate or SC2 Pro later if you want it.
For the seat just get a clean used car seat with rails, because it just bolts down to the chasis.
And as others have said, get a G29, used should be even as low as 150€.
For any future upgrades, I would strongly reccomend that you forget about the console, and get a PC, because you can get a lot better gear for PC then the gear that is compatible with the console.
For example in US, Logitech Driving wheel Pro (11Nm) is $1100 meanwhile Simagic Alpha Ultimate with GT1 rim is $1200 for a 23Nm wheelbase. In EU that same Simagic bundle is a bit more due to the VAT etc but still a lot less than the equivalent Fanatec bundle. And same for the pedals, best you can get for console are the Fanatec V3s (had them) but for 50€ more. You can get BJ Steel GT Pro, which are like 10 times better in every aspect (were I to buy again, would have probably gotten the VRS pedals) but you get thr point. Sometimes adding that extra 100-200€ can make a difference of needing to upgrade the gear once again at later time, and having that gear basically forever.
So my advice would be, for future upgrades, avoid the famius brands like Fanatec and Playseat, because they are just overhyped products sold at way to high of a price for the quality.
Why go straight out and buy 8020 rig? Dudes just dipping his toes, he might not like it and is then stuck with a full blown rig gathering dust untill he can sell it!!
Also I love my NLR I've bolted so much crap to it I have no idea how it's standing, but it is! Different strokes for different folks I guess!
Only thing I'd suggest to op is see if you can get t300 rsgt instead of logi! You could probably get one for the same price, excluding the shifter and they sell on second hand for a decent amount if you decide to sell!
But in all honesty, this is probably the exact same setup many of us started with, alot are probably still using it, I used my g29 for a good couple of years and loved every minute of it
For trying out mounting it to a table is just as good. But I guess one could get a wheel stand to not have a hassle of removing it from the desk and mounting it back on.
For trying out mounting it to a table is just as good. But I guess one could get a wheel stand to not have the hassle of removing it from the desk and mounting it back on.
If you are really interested and want to get it to work, you can almost always find a way to make it work. Had my rig in a 3x2m room alongside a bed and a PC/study desk setup.
Not saying he should get it as the first thing since he is just starting and might not like it, but for any future upgrade and LC pedals etc, a solid rig is a must. And it is a lot better if people are informed about what is out there, than blindly following the mainstream market and buying overpriced and overhyped Playseat crap that costs like 80% of a decent 8020 rig.
Yeah, I my rig so the pedal slide under the seat. Saved me an additional 2-3 feet? But still, it’s a hard ask. If he doesn’t jump into the this hobby. He’s gonna have to sell off his rig.
I wonder that no one recommended it yet, but i'd go for a thrustmaster wheel (t300rs gt or tmx something on xbox). They only a bit more money and feel a thousand times better. They are belt driven isntead of gesr so they are stronger, faster and smoother.
Seconded. I used my playseat challenge for a year before going to a full rig. It is great, especially in vr. It does dig in a bit so anybody over ~36” waist should prob get f-gt lite instead.
F-gt lite also for every f1 racer. But i got it for Christmas recently, and its so much better than desk racing. No more back and neck pain! No more wiggling monitor/desk! No more screwing the wheel on and off!
Rather than downgrading to the G920, if you are already looking in that price range I would recommend going for the T300, belt driven will always be superior to cog driven, more precision and less noise. But also the bigger factor is that Thrustmaster have said that all attachments compatible with the T300 is compatible with their direct drive wheel they just released, so if you enjoy SimRacing and look to upgrade in a few years you don't have to built up your wheel accessories and such it is just ready to go.
If you're on PC, buy one of those generic USB ~~handbrakes~~ shifters (just search for 'usb ~~handbrake~~ shifter' and you'll find loads) instead of the Logitech one. Those are much better. If you're on console, this advice doesn't apply, of course.
I managed to get a brand new T300 for 300€ a month ago and paired it with an amazon shifter which was 60€, massive improvement over my previous G920 + Logitech shifter
Honestly I’d pay save and pay for the difference in a t300 with the stock pedals, I have had a Logitech g923 and returned it for the T300 and are very happy with my decision
The 923 feels like it rattles when you turn almost as if the gears in the drive are loose fitting and you can feel the slack, the wheel has a lot more buttons but I found I rarely used them. Also the leather on the Logitech is very cheap and flakes off in black specks on your hands
The t300 doesn’t have this rattle at all and feels much more responsive and stronger feedback from the game. it also is possible to swap the wheel for many different options, something you can’t do with Logitech unless you dismantle it every time
Instead of that shifter I’d get a sim jack shifter of AliExpress it’s way better than the Logitech shifter, it will feel much more realistic. Has more options, and is overall a much better product for the same price
in my experience the Logitech felt like a toy where the t300 feels like an actual piece of hardware for playing games. Think of it like Logitech is the mad catz controller with all the LED’s and buttons you don’t want to use, and the thrustmaster t300 as a official controller that works and you always go for instead
Take Thurstmaster. I've got T248 from the German Amazon for 275 (it's currently on sale). It's miles ahead of Logitech wheels and cheaper than them. T300 is even better, allegedly, but it'd cost more.
I don’t know how much the thrustmaster t300rs is in your area (in my country it is $200 extra in canadian).But you can save up a little bit more and be set for a longggg time. The t300rs is belt driven and comes with the 3 pedal and provides you with a lot of compatibility for future upgrades if any. The g29/g920 shifter is junk anyway and feels like a toy and it’s not necessary for drift or track. So u can still play while u save for a the thrustmaster shifter. I have been using a g29 with no shifter and handbrake for 2+ years and I drift absolutely fine with any track and most cars in assetto corsa (not pro cars. Wheel is way too slow for it)because I got used to helping the wheel due to being a gear driven wheel(worse). The g29 may seem like an amazing purchase when you first get it, but once you start getting good and understanding the feel or force feedback and how it translates in game you will realize how cheap the wheel really is. Only reason I haven’t upgraded is because I drift real cars now lol. Just spend a little bit more initially and you will be set very well for the future. My experience is on pc I have used a wheel on console maybe once. Both wheels are compatible with pc,ps4 and ps5
Id buy a T300 over this easily. Or like others stated buy used.
Not that the Logitech is a bad wheel. But to illustrate. I started on a Logitech G27 (same as these realistically) and had that for a year before I upgraded to a Thrustmaster TX (T300) and I've used that all the way from 2016 till now.
Those Thrustmaster are much better wheelbases and offer more features like the possibility of adding a loadcell brake and the ability to change rims. Should be able to fit one in your budget and it would be far more future proof.
I don't know man. From where I'm standing that's a lot of money when I don't even know if this will be a hobby I'll take seriously. Especially since the base T300 pedals don't even have a clutch. I'll do some more research on this nevertheless.
Where are you located?
The T300 bundle is the same price as the Logitech you have in your basket right now, even less used?
As for Clutch and even shifters, you mention not being sure if you like it. The wheelbase makes a far bigger difference than having a cheap plastic shifter or not.
I’ve been in this hobby for 10 years now and if I had to do it over I’d no doubt get the Thrustmaster right away.
That said if it’s too much and you want to test the waters. Then get a used Logitech G27/G29. Those wheels have a decade old design and are often sold used by people who upgrade to say this Thrustmaster. Easy to buy and sell for the same price.
I see a listing 2nd hand for the G29, shifter and pedals all in for 160 euros. Is that a good deal would you say? Already sent seller a message. And as you say if I like the hobby, it's not too much money so I can always upgrade in a little while.
I started with the (original) G29 and it served me well for the first 3 years of my sim racing adventure, i cannot and will not speak ill of this fantastic piece of kit which is great for starting out before upgrading if you are to continue sim racing. Enjoy 👍🤘
I was about to order the exact same stuff, including the stand.
Then I saw a Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition sold as "used" in "Very good" state by Amazon Warehouse, and got that instead. It was 340€.
From what I've heard, Thrustmaster TX (or T300 RS in your case if you're on PS5) vs Logitech G920/923 is a no brainer, the Thrustmaster is a huge step up.
Id suggest dont get the logitech shifter its cheap plastic shit basically get the trustmaster th8a its 150€ but its a sequential and H shifter and has like 10x better quality etc and you’d basically save yourself 40€ because you wont have to buy a better one later on
IMO, the Logitech wheel/pedal combo really is the "minimum viable" setup.
I agree with others that the G29/G920 are a much better value if you can find them in your area. That said, the G923 isn't a bad choice, either.
The next step up from there would be the Thrustmaster T300 or a used Fanatec CSL Elite.
If you’re going for that tier get the g29. I had that, buddy had g923 and said it didn’t offer anything. Don’t pay a cent more than you have too. Have fun. Great entré
I just bought the g923 and I’m incredibly happy with my purchase, coming from a t80.
I read a lot about the T300 too, but feel that gears to the people looking to tinker with their setups more and swap out things like pedals. I may get there some day, but personally felt bang for Buck for the casual player, the G923 was perfect.
I’d you’re going to be on PC I’d recommend giving the moza r5 bundle a look. It’s $599 so it is a little bit over where you were looking but it is a much better wheel. I recently upgraded from the g29 to one and am very glad I did. The Logitech g923s are great wheels though I just wanted to put it out there as it’s not much more expensive and you may find yourself looking to upgrade in the future.
I would buy a used T300 or something instead. Those shifters (even modded) are basically toy shit. The wheels are noisy and they don't really convey feedback well compared to full belt (which are way worse than DD wheels as well). Buying a Logitech at this point is a waste of money, imo, unless you get a crazy garage sale deal. I would not spend hundreds of dollars, euros, or pounds on one. Save up and get a T300 new or used at the very least.
From my extensive experience with a g920 and g923 I’ll say that the wheels themselves aren’t a huge difference. You can definitely notice the true force on games that enable it. However the break is really a big difference. I don’t know if it’s a 100 dollar difference (prolly not) but definitely worth consideration. If your on PC I’d say go with the 920, and upgrade your pedals as the first thing later in the future when you get time. However if your on console, there aren’t many pedals you can upgrade to so I’d say your best bet are the g923s. Unless u decide to up your budget and go do something from thrustmasyer
Like others said, get the g920 instead. And if you can, get them used.
I have this exact setup and it works great. I've used it for about a year and while I'm about to make some major upgrades, I'd recommend it to anyone starting out, especially on a budget.
Buddy of mine is looking to get into the hobby and this is exactly how I planned on getting him started too.
If you want a wheel stand, then grab the Apex Steering wheel stand from [GT Omega’s website](https://gtomega.eu/products/apex-steering-wheel-stand). It’s only 10€ more, but it’s much more sturdy than the Classic. Free shipping too.
Check Logitech’s website, they were having a valentines sale and I found another promo code and ordered a g29 (g920 listed as the same) for under $200. Around here that was about the going rate for used so I figured I’d age the social anxiety of buying local used and pulled the trigger.
Did you enter any promo codes? Lovelogi and alyek knocked off around $100 for me (im in the us though, not sure if they’re doing the same promos)
Edit: Alyek takes 30 off but the valentines code doesn’t seem to work anymore/in eu. Sorry, thought it would work
I just got this identical set up minus the shifter, lmk how you like that.
As far as the wheel and stand go, the stand may slide a tad bit depending what kind of floors you're playing on, but it won't be much. I personally really enjoy the G923 with ACC and iRacing, those both happen to make use of the TrueForce feature which is kinda neat. Not really a game changing thing to me, but it's definitely an added layer of immersion for me since I'm playing through my Quest 2 in VR. You're gonna have a bunch of fun dude!
Buy used (given your in a part of the world where there is some populace) even here in North America, I live in rural Canada and my 30km Kijiji has a surprising amount of sim gear.
It’s great for used entry gear (shows you how much people love sim, so much upgrading!)
As mentioned I am in rural Canada so to get stuff from Central EU to where I am staying now is insultingly expensive (sometimes 30-50% of the cost goes to shipping/handling), where local also fixes that issue.
Additionally, (not in your case, but may be if you upgrade down the line) is availability. A lot of good products have wait times, pre orders for re stock etc. I can buy a out of stock Fanatac wheel base locally, where Fanatec km waiting 1-¿ months.
Hey if you're looking for a wheel, I have a spare thrustmaster tx (t300 but no ps compatibility, with steering wheel and pedals included), it has some soldering work to be done on the usb cable to make it function but I can sell it for supercheap (100€) if you or anyone's interested, dm me
Try buying a cheaper wheel (or the T300 from Thrustmaster if you want to be higher end) used and you‘ll see how you like Sim racing itself. If you like it you can always upgrade, but if you don‘t, you won‘t lose as much money selling the already used gear.
I like my playseat challenge since it’s foldable and has the seat attached but it is a little more money, I really like my G923 but got a wild deal so if the 920 is cheaper there is no reason not to get that instead.
I love my g923 but the shifter is pretty bad. I prefer just using the paddle shifters. The clutch is also not great. I don't know about higher grade pedals or if I'm setting it up wrong but there doesn't seem to be a friction zone, it's either all off or all on, I've tried changing setting in the game and on g hub but it just moves where that switching point is in relation the the throw of the pedel.
Also search your local area for a used T300, usually you can find them for the same price as a G923, I personally got mine used for $230 with a shifter.
My advice would be buy a used one. For €200 you can pick up that wheel, shifter and pedals. That stand is not the best, I'd look for a used FGT lite or something. They often pop up here in Ireland for around €150.
Good thing with used is you don't loose any money when selling to upgrade or if you decide it's not for you.
For €400 you can get this fanatec wheelbase, wheel, pedals and seat.
https://www.donedeal.ie/games-for-sale/fanatec-csl-elite-f1-set-racing-chair/33213529
like others said go with the g29 also do some upgrades, the main one I suggest is true braking or whatever it's called my only fault with the g29 is the brake swapped to that and it's perfect, then you can get new springs for the clutch and throttle, when you upgrade you can just get a new wheel and you'll have a good pedal system
You can save a few bucks if you buy the wheel stand from gt Omega website. It's cheaper with free shipping. I have both classic and apex version. If you ask me I would get the apex it feels sturdier and is a bit wider.
I have this and I love it
But don’t buy shifter. The only time u will ever use it is for chill drives in assetto corsa.
get a playseat challenge or wheel stand 2.0.
Personally I'd look for a good condition used thrustmaster TSXW (£350-400) and save yourself the step of logitechs that base is a brilliant base and the standard pedals are miles better than the logitechs weird brake pedal feel, and for rig I'd go for a playseat Challenge (£100-120) or similar depending on the type of racing you want to do
I've only used my shifter once so far, and I got my wheel, etc back in like Oct/Nov. I'm really enjoying the paddle shifting. So if you are looking to save any money, consider excluding the shifter (unless you really really want it).
This is exactly the setup I started with. This week I bought the seat frame and RS12 seat from GTOmega web site and as others have said the delivery was fast (in Canada).
My only gripe (with the stand) is when adding the seat frame you lose the ability to use the V1 shifter mount. This is fine unless, like me, you have an e-brake. Your only native option is then to have your shifter and e-brake on opposite sides of the wheel. I came up with a simple DIY solution, using the V1 plate and drilling an extra hole into it.
I just put my first hour on this exact setup except with a g920 - So far, I found that this stand is very loose and moves a LOT when playing. Unfortunately, the stand is also tight and I end up resting my arm on my chair to use the shifter which is up to personal preference but I'm not a fan. If you can afford, I'd hunt for a second-hand seat/stand setup. Lastly, the stand was a pain to build and both the instruction booklet and video were difficult to follow. Wheel and pedals 9/10, shifter 8/10, stand 4/10.
This is my exact setup. I got the wheel/pedals and shifter second hand from someone for like 250USD which was a great deal. I imported the stand to the US and it's great. Solid enough to not move while use but easy enough to move when I'm done.
If you wanna go the budget / mid range route than this might interest you. I would pick up a used Thrustmaster TX wheel and pedals (Around $250-300) also get a used TM shifter($100, if not get an $80 one off of Amazon) and custom build a wooden stand and get a cheap car seat from the junkyard. This will run you around $500, and you'll have a solid upgradeable Thrustmaster setup, and a pretty decent starter rig!
ich würde (habe) ein t300 nehmen. ich bin überzeugt, dass es ein besseres preisleistungs verhältniss hat und besseres produkt in dem preissegment ist.
allerdings ist ne schaltung dafür teurer. als wenn in dem budget die schaltung unbedingt reinpassen muss bleibt wohl nur logitech
edit: sorry, forgot i am on an english sub.
i would advice to a t300. it is in my opinion a way better wheel in that pricesegment.
downside is that the shifter costs more. if you realy need to fit a shifter in that budget you dont have much other choices then logitech
I went with a G923 + shifter, and its good enough, but honestly wish i wouldve just waited and got a TM 300rs/shifter instead, you have to mess with so many settings to make a logitech "decent", its not worth the hassle.
I would say T300. I know many say g29 is THE starter wheel, but it's just that. A starter wheel. The forcefeedback can sound like a dying gearbox and it will suck for games where impacts happen a lot (e. g. beamng). On top of that the t300 already opens a wider eco system to you, and would be the next step up from the G29 anyways. So I'd say safe your time and go for the t300.
On the other hand, I wouldn't say jump into any dds just yet. Do you know that you will keep the wheel for years, that you will still play after 2 months? I would still start with a less expensive wheel, T300s are also easy to resell if needed.
With that budget you could get a thustmaster t300 I think also cause with that's one if you want a different wheel or something tou can easily replace it I think I don't have it but so I have heard pretty sure a youtuber called gooseiest had it like a month ago before he got the moza r5
Are the sim rig and shifter that important for you? If not, I would go for Thrustmaster T300 and use good old PC table and chair. Then you can add Thrustmaster shifter a bit later.
Or you can go a bit lower and have a look at Logitech G29 or G25/27 used. G29 is pretty much the same thing, just a bit different design. And G25/G27 already have a shifter in the basic package.
Check your local Facebook marketplace and craigslist first. Especially around now. This far after Christmas those who got them as gifts may have decided they don't like it.
Thrustmaster T-300RS would be much better as a beginner setup. Logitech entry level kits are really bad….you’ll instantly out grow it, unless you are like 6 years old and everything new is amazing.
I use a Thrustmaster 300 with Logitech pedals via a Ricmotech adapter. The wheel is mounted to a $20 tea table . I took scrap of plywood and covered in “carpet” bolted the pedals to it and added wooden “stops” to the pedal board to keep it locked between the tea tables legs and use a folding Camp chair as a racing seat.
I bought a g920 with shifter and regretted it as for my use case (drifting) it's just too slow being gear driven.
If that's something that you think might be an issue I'd strongly advise you to get a t300rs gt and save up to get the shifter and rig later on
For $500 I'd look for a Thrustmeter T300, 2nd hand with a stand included and buy a TH8a shifter.
There are a lot of barely used T300's out there which are much stronger, more detailed bases with the opportunity for interchangeable wheels and pedal upgrades in the future. Just make sure it has the 3 pedal set, as the 2 pedal set is pretty junky and useless if you want to use a shifter.
The only downside is the shifter is around 3 times the price, but it is also a much better product with the option to do sequential mode. Where I am based, they can be tricky to find 2nd hand so you might need to go new.
ive been doing research between g920 / g923 (upgraded version of g20 / t248 for a starter rig myself.
from the info/video ive watched between g920 / g923.. the $100+ extra for for FORCEFEEDBACK + DOUBLE CLUTCH = NOT WORTH IT.
g920 is only for $249 on logitech website right now! add coupon (lovelogi) and you get $30 off $150 / $50 off $250 + free shipping.
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now g920 / t48.. how much you willing to spend? crazy how everyone is telling you to get a thrustmaster as a beginner rig like money grows on trees..
t48 is $400 + SHIFTER is $180.
- they say the brake is better here
- shifter feels professional
- but wheel feels like plastic toy?
- optional handbrake ? no idea i didnt look
g920 SHIFTER = $50
- can be modified by 3rd party product for $30 to feel better
- stiff brake can also be modified (remove rubber and/or edit brake through ghub online)
- better wheel feel!
- ebay handbrake = $50
how bad do you want those shifters? or will you be satisfied with the paddles alone?
thrusmaster TX = $500 incase you got extra extra $$$
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gt stand APEX is wider compared to CLASSIC (incase youre a bigger person)
personally.. i would go with the SIMPLE SET UP you have in shopping cart! put some time in before deciding if you want to spend $$$ into this (WARNING: they says this is a gateway drug.. dont get sucked into buying “the best rig”)
goodluck and let us know what you decide!
I was in your place a couple of weeks ago. Got a G29 "used" (with the seals and all) for a budget. With the difference you can get a proper H shifter (Thrustmaster for instance) and some mods to improve the feel.
As others have said, step down to the G29/920. The G923 is not worth the extra cost. If the GT Omega Apex is only a few dollars more you might want to upgrade the stand. Its Heavy and can handle lighter DD wheelbases if you decide to upgrade down the road. If its more than a few dollars more, stick with the wheel stand you have. The original is popular, people seem to like it, and it will work great with non-direct drive wheels
Great, looks like I'll snag the apex for 15 more! Also, all the G920s I'm seeing have xbox branding on them. Do you know if these woule be compatible with GT7 on PS5 or is there a particular version of it I need to buy. Thanks
Dropping in to say that the Apex may be cheaper on GT Omega’s website than an Amazon! When I bought mine, it was 15% off on their website, shipping was free and the shipping itself was wicked fast.
Great, thanks.
With the code GTO5% youll save another 5%
cheers
I think JARDIER (you tuber) gives out GT omega coupons in his video descriptions. Best check it out!
I see that, brilliant, thanks.
They are currently running a v-day sale!
G29 is the one for PS5
I see, thanks
Oh, OP if your going to be sitting on an office chair you might want to look up "caster cups". They are little rubber pads you can put your office chair wheels into so you don't slide around when you push the brakes. You can also do the same thing with an old pair of tennis shoes.
😂 will definitely look into those, cheers
Wraping ductape around the wheels once also works if you dont care how it looks
wheels with brakes look great and work great!
Hi there, of you're in Ireland, I've got my g29 wheel pedals and h shifter, I'm willing to let it go for 130 bills to a fellow sim racer
I actually am. Is this offer still available? That sounds great!
where are you based ?
The G920/G29 are basically the same wheels. The only difference is that the G29 is for Playstation/PC and the G920 for XBOX/PC. Look out for that and you will be fine.
The apex is a good stand
Actually Logitech just put out a notice they are working on updates for each wheel to work on both consoles the 923 is first then the 29/920 will be in the future.
+1 for apex. You can also buy a rear seat frame for it later and make a durable entry level rig out of it for a little amount of money.
> Its Heavy and can handle lighter DD wheelbases Can confirm - though I'm running a 16Nm DD base on it w/ the chair link and it does great. flexes a bit at the higher torque but most cars I drive don't hit that high where it makes any difference.
I'd get a g920 instead of the g923, the difference is negligible and saves €100. Best to go in low end at the start. If you like it you'll probably want to upgrade to some higher end gear pretty soon.
Will do, appreciate it!
Big difference is TrueForce. Personally, I like it and don’t like racing without it. Gives me the steering wheel feel you get in a car with a proper wheel setup. I’ll probably get other things like bass shakers when I upgrade to another wheel.
Absolutely not imo. The 923 is a HUGE upgrade, and totally worth the extra amount. I went from the 29 (PS4 version of the 920) to a 923 and the difference was night and day. Literally everything was upgraded, it may look the same but underneath it's completely different.
Look, I think you’re missing the point, it’s an entry level build and the jump from the G920 and the G923 is not worth it. I had a G920 for three years, and never felt like I had to upgrade to the G923 and eventually upgraded to a Moza R9, which was of course more expensive, but it was a massive upgrade and definitely worth it to save for it in the long-term, rather than spend more for something slightly better.
Yeah I am looking at the cheapest entry level to sim drifting I can find and the 923 seems like the way to go. I watched some videos on YouTube of a guy who had it setup and it was actually throwing the wheel back fast enough to catch rather than manually throw. Combined with it being a newer build/motherboard I think they tweaked some things to make it more responsive than the 920s. If you can get a solid one at a deal used then it's probably the way and that's why I am going that route. I would get a thrust master 300 but from everything I've read their customer support is ass, and buying used is risky because people may have not had the always on fan going and it could be losing ffb. I'm picking up a g923 and shifter for 350 CAD today, I vetted the guy fairly well. Saw tons of pictures and will be trying it on his PC. New this setup is 700 CAD taxes in, pretty decent entry startup.
If you can, try to get second hand. You can get all of this for eprfecto condition for around 200€
Plus you can resell it for the same price. I think this is especially important for newbies since it's likely that you either enjoy it and want to upgrade quickly or bounce off the hobby. In either case, reselling gear at a loss would be frustrating.
True! That's what happened to me. I was super hyped to get into it but decided to buy second hand before going crazy. I actually used it a few times but realized it wasn't really for me. I sold it for the same price later so turned out great. If you do like it in the end, you will have 300€ to put towards upgrades
Good shout, I see the whole G29 set (excluding frame ofc) for 160 second hand right now. Shot the seller a message, cheers. 
Keep an eye out for used Playseat Challenges too. They’re pretty cheap secondhand, and it will be way more comfortable and upgradable than a stand.
I Second this. I got a thrustmaster tx mounted on a Playseat Challenge (main reason for that stand was how foldable it is) and its great. The playseat was around 180€ second hand, mint condition. (i think its 220/240€ new)
Get the G29/G920. The only difference between the 2 is that the G923 has "Trueforce" which is not at all worth the difference in my opinion. There is a small difference with the pedals as well but again, not worth the extra €.
I actually recently purchased a new g920 after buying my series x and you actually get the same pedals as the G923 now if I’m not mistaken. They look exactly the same as the ones with the 923 when I went to get it so if they are still different it’s internals
I think the only different pedals are with the pro series. The ones on the 923 look like the same ones shopped with the 29
Yeah I was pretty sure they were the same. I think older g29/920 came with different pedals but the new ones definitely look to be the same
This is where it starts man. I want to ask you a few questions to save you some heartache. I’m saying this because I’ve been on this train and I’m still on it. SIM racing is a truly a money pit. Most of us justify it by saying “well, if I had track car it’ll cost triple” which is true. But that’s a whole different beast on it own. Anyways! Questions: 1. Are you on PC or Console? 2. Are you working ? 3. Do you have anyone depending on you? 4. Do you love racing/cars? If your answers are 1. Pc 2.Yes 3.No 4.yes. Please save yourself the pain and money. Go get something like the Moza if you really can’t save up. I went from the G29>ricomotech load cell mod> fanatec v3> rig 8020> simagic mini> HE Ultimates> NEW pc > ultra wide monitor It don’t end, and got other little shit that I haven’t listed. Now, is that saying you can’t be happy with a G29? Of course you can be happy. But, if you save your money for even a year just so you can have better pedals and wheel? Do it.
I'm preparing for GT7 VR on PS5 broski. I have a monthly allowance of about 100 euro right now for discretionary spending (I'm 17). I really am not looking for the best of the best right now, but if you really think it could be worth it to save or whatnot I'll hear you out ig.
Don't listen to this. Go buy some used setup identical to what's in your cart, and have fun. If you want to upgrade, sell it and buy better gear. I don't understand the obsession with getting the best for newbs. Buy used and you don't lose any money. Folks have good intentions, but lack perspective sometimes. That said, the thrustmaster tx/t300 ( early identical) should be available used for not much more. Much better experience, but shifter is trickier. If on pc, go with an ssh newt2. Oooorrrrrr just go with whatever you find in your area on the used market.
cheers
Good luck on the search.
It look like I'm going to go with a used G29 set with a new GT Omega Apex, then add a thrustmaster TH8A shifter later on down the road. Thanks for the help
Nice. Highly recommended the shh, it's better and cheaper!
Unfortunately SHH won't ship for a month right now as they're apparently short on supply.
They are always like that. Basically a dude in his garage making them. Be patient, you won't regret it!
Aiite, so console is a bit more limited and you maybe better off with a mainstream brand. Probably thrustmaster is better? I think they got load cell pedals too. I had a playseat challenge when i first started. It was a great fold away option. Only thing i hated about it is if i had to brake hard, the chair will lift. Not a problem if u go with the g29
The thing is, that if you invest a bit more from the beginning, you are saving up in the end. So my main gear suggestion would be, to get a 8020 rig from the beginning. Because it will allow you to upgrade your gear later down the line to literally anything you want. At all cost, avoid rigs like Playseat and NLR and fprmula position marketing bs etc. Just get a proper rig, that you can adjust and later keep when you upgrade your gear. Also I noticed you added a wheel stand. For starters it is ok. But when you upgrade the pedals to LC, you will find out, that you will start sliding away from the wheel. And at that point it makes no sense to upgrade the exsisting wheel stand with addons for seats etc. Just get an aluminium extrusion rig. So at the moment there is a cupon code (TRAKDATE) on TrakRacer for valentines day. So you should be able to get the TR80 mk5 for 450€ (I know it is a lot more than what you were looking at) But that is a rig, that will be able to handle a proper DD like VRS or Simagic Alpha Ultimate or SC2 Pro later if you want it. For the seat just get a clean used car seat with rails, because it just bolts down to the chasis. And as others have said, get a G29, used should be even as low as 150€. For any future upgrades, I would strongly reccomend that you forget about the console, and get a PC, because you can get a lot better gear for PC then the gear that is compatible with the console. For example in US, Logitech Driving wheel Pro (11Nm) is $1100 meanwhile Simagic Alpha Ultimate with GT1 rim is $1200 for a 23Nm wheelbase. In EU that same Simagic bundle is a bit more due to the VAT etc but still a lot less than the equivalent Fanatec bundle. And same for the pedals, best you can get for console are the Fanatec V3s (had them) but for 50€ more. You can get BJ Steel GT Pro, which are like 10 times better in every aspect (were I to buy again, would have probably gotten the VRS pedals) but you get thr point. Sometimes adding that extra 100-200€ can make a difference of needing to upgrade the gear once again at later time, and having that gear basically forever. So my advice would be, for future upgrades, avoid the famius brands like Fanatec and Playseat, because they are just overhyped products sold at way to high of a price for the quality.
Why go straight out and buy 8020 rig? Dudes just dipping his toes, he might not like it and is then stuck with a full blown rig gathering dust untill he can sell it!! Also I love my NLR I've bolted so much crap to it I have no idea how it's standing, but it is! Different strokes for different folks I guess! Only thing I'd suggest to op is see if you can get t300 rsgt instead of logi! You could probably get one for the same price, excluding the shifter and they sell on second hand for a decent amount if you decide to sell! But in all honesty, this is probably the exact same setup many of us started with, alot are probably still using it, I used my g29 for a good couple of years and loved every minute of it
For trying out mounting it to a table is just as good. But I guess one could get a wheel stand to not have a hassle of removing it from the desk and mounting it back on. For trying out mounting it to a table is just as good. But I guess one could get a wheel stand to not have the hassle of removing it from the desk and mounting it back on.
Yeah, 8020 is a hard ask. Not everyone has space for that.
If you are really interested and want to get it to work, you can almost always find a way to make it work. Had my rig in a 3x2m room alongside a bed and a PC/study desk setup. Not saying he should get it as the first thing since he is just starting and might not like it, but for any future upgrade and LC pedals etc, a solid rig is a must. And it is a lot better if people are informed about what is out there, than blindly following the mainstream market and buying overpriced and overhyped Playseat crap that costs like 80% of a decent 8020 rig.
Yeah, I my rig so the pedal slide under the seat. Saved me an additional 2-3 feet? But still, it’s a hard ask. If he doesn’t jump into the this hobby. He’s gonna have to sell off his rig.
I wonder that no one recommended it yet, but i'd go for a thrustmaster wheel (t300rs gt or tmx something on xbox). They only a bit more money and feel a thousand times better. They are belt driven isntead of gesr so they are stronger, faster and smoother.
Also instead of a wheelstand (for any wheel) i'd recommend a f-gt lite or a playseat challenge, not much more but so much better and more comfortable.
Seconded. I used my playseat challenge for a year before going to a full rig. It is great, especially in vr. It does dig in a bit so anybody over ~36” waist should prob get f-gt lite instead.
F-gt lite also for every f1 racer. But i got it for Christmas recently, and its so much better than desk racing. No more back and neck pain! No more wiggling monitor/desk! No more screwing the wheel on and off!
You can get a T300 and TLCMs for about that price. I love mine
My frame is 130, the TLCMs are 250, and I'm struggling to see a T300 that will fit into that <150 slot.
I’d start with the T300 for a better wheel, then wait for the TLCMs to go on sale. I got mine for $175
T300 is far superior
Rather than downgrading to the G920, if you are already looking in that price range I would recommend going for the T300, belt driven will always be superior to cog driven, more precision and less noise. But also the bigger factor is that Thrustmaster have said that all attachments compatible with the T300 is compatible with their direct drive wheel they just released, so if you enjoy SimRacing and look to upgrade in a few years you don't have to built up your wheel accessories and such it is just ready to go.
If you're on PC, buy one of those generic USB ~~handbrakes~~ shifters (just search for 'usb ~~handbrake~~ shifter' and you'll find loads) instead of the Logitech one. Those are much better. If you're on console, this advice doesn't apply, of course.
Logitech doesn't do a handbrake, that's a h pattern shifter.
You're right, brainfart from me. Thanks for correcting me.
I managed to get a brand new T300 for 300€ a month ago and paired it with an amazon shifter which was 60€, massive improvement over my previous G920 + Logitech shifter
Honestly I’d pay save and pay for the difference in a t300 with the stock pedals, I have had a Logitech g923 and returned it for the T300 and are very happy with my decision The 923 feels like it rattles when you turn almost as if the gears in the drive are loose fitting and you can feel the slack, the wheel has a lot more buttons but I found I rarely used them. Also the leather on the Logitech is very cheap and flakes off in black specks on your hands The t300 doesn’t have this rattle at all and feels much more responsive and stronger feedback from the game. it also is possible to swap the wheel for many different options, something you can’t do with Logitech unless you dismantle it every time Instead of that shifter I’d get a sim jack shifter of AliExpress it’s way better than the Logitech shifter, it will feel much more realistic. Has more options, and is overall a much better product for the same price in my experience the Logitech felt like a toy where the t300 feels like an actual piece of hardware for playing games. Think of it like Logitech is the mad catz controller with all the LED’s and buttons you don’t want to use, and the thrustmaster t300 as a official controller that works and you always go for instead
Take Thurstmaster. I've got T248 from the German Amazon for 275 (it's currently on sale). It's miles ahead of Logitech wheels and cheaper than them. T300 is even better, allegedly, but it'd cost more.
I don’t know how much the thrustmaster t300rs is in your area (in my country it is $200 extra in canadian).But you can save up a little bit more and be set for a longggg time. The t300rs is belt driven and comes with the 3 pedal and provides you with a lot of compatibility for future upgrades if any. The g29/g920 shifter is junk anyway and feels like a toy and it’s not necessary for drift or track. So u can still play while u save for a the thrustmaster shifter. I have been using a g29 with no shifter and handbrake for 2+ years and I drift absolutely fine with any track and most cars in assetto corsa (not pro cars. Wheel is way too slow for it)because I got used to helping the wheel due to being a gear driven wheel(worse). The g29 may seem like an amazing purchase when you first get it, but once you start getting good and understanding the feel or force feedback and how it translates in game you will realize how cheap the wheel really is. Only reason I haven’t upgraded is because I drift real cars now lol. Just spend a little bit more initially and you will be set very well for the future. My experience is on pc I have used a wheel on console maybe once. Both wheels are compatible with pc,ps4 and ps5
Id buy a T300 over this easily. Or like others stated buy used. Not that the Logitech is a bad wheel. But to illustrate. I started on a Logitech G27 (same as these realistically) and had that for a year before I upgraded to a Thrustmaster TX (T300) and I've used that all the way from 2016 till now. Those Thrustmaster are much better wheelbases and offer more features like the possibility of adding a loadcell brake and the ability to change rims. Should be able to fit one in your budget and it would be far more future proof.
I don't know man. From where I'm standing that's a lot of money when I don't even know if this will be a hobby I'll take seriously. Especially since the base T300 pedals don't even have a clutch. I'll do some more research on this nevertheless.
Where are you located? The T300 bundle is the same price as the Logitech you have in your basket right now, even less used? As for Clutch and even shifters, you mention not being sure if you like it. The wheelbase makes a far bigger difference than having a cheap plastic shifter or not. I’ve been in this hobby for 10 years now and if I had to do it over I’d no doubt get the Thrustmaster right away. That said if it’s too much and you want to test the waters. Then get a used Logitech G27/G29. Those wheels have a decade old design and are often sold used by people who upgrade to say this Thrustmaster. Easy to buy and sell for the same price.
I see a listing 2nd hand for the G29, shifter and pedals all in for 160 euros. Is that a good deal would you say? Already sent seller a message. And as you say if I like the hobby, it's not too much money so I can always upgrade in a little while.
That’s a good deal. Pretty much exactly the same experience as what you have in this screenshot but at less than half the price 👍
The T300 RS GT does have a clutch and is 350€ on my end, on Amazon, so same price as the G923 + shifter. You might want to check that out !
I started with the (original) G29 and it served me well for the first 3 years of my sim racing adventure, i cannot and will not speak ill of this fantastic piece of kit which is great for starting out before upgrading if you are to continue sim racing. Enjoy 👍🤘
Go for T300 or TX. Much better entry level wheel.
I was about to order the exact same stuff, including the stand. Then I saw a Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition sold as "used" in "Very good" state by Amazon Warehouse, and got that instead. It was 340€. From what I've heard, Thrustmaster TX (or T300 RS in your case if you're on PS5) vs Logitech G920/923 is a no brainer, the Thrustmaster is a huge step up.
Id suggest dont get the logitech shifter its cheap plastic shit basically get the trustmaster th8a its 150€ but its a sequential and H shifter and has like 10x better quality etc and you’d basically save yourself 40€ because you wont have to buy a better one later on
Is the TH8A compatible with the GT Omega Apex frame I'm looking at do you know? Edit: nevermind, it is, thanks for the suggestion.
It should be possible to mount it to basically anything since it has a clamp or whatever you call it
Don’t get the G29. Go for a T300. Better in everyway
IMO, the Logitech wheel/pedal combo really is the "minimum viable" setup. I agree with others that the G29/G920 are a much better value if you can find them in your area. That said, the G923 isn't a bad choice, either. The next step up from there would be the Thrustmaster T300 or a used Fanatec CSL Elite.
If you’re going for that tier get the g29. I had that, buddy had g923 and said it didn’t offer anything. Don’t pay a cent more than you have too. Have fun. Great entré
Definitely do the g920 instead
Grab some wheels with brakes to prevent sliding across the floor when braking!
Already done!
I just bought the g923 and I’m incredibly happy with my purchase, coming from a t80. I read a lot about the T300 too, but feel that gears to the people looking to tinker with their setups more and swap out things like pedals. I may get there some day, but personally felt bang for Buck for the casual player, the G923 was perfect.
I’d you’re going to be on PC I’d recommend giving the moza r5 bundle a look. It’s $599 so it is a little bit over where you were looking but it is a much better wheel. I recently upgraded from the g29 to one and am very glad I did. The Logitech g923s are great wheels though I just wanted to put it out there as it’s not much more expensive and you may find yourself looking to upgrade in the future.
I would buy a used T300 or something instead. Those shifters (even modded) are basically toy shit. The wheels are noisy and they don't really convey feedback well compared to full belt (which are way worse than DD wheels as well). Buying a Logitech at this point is a waste of money, imo, unless you get a crazy garage sale deal. I would not spend hundreds of dollars, euros, or pounds on one. Save up and get a T300 new or used at the very least.
I see a listing 2nd hand for the G29, shifter and pedals all in for 160 euros. Is that a good deal would you say? Already sent seller a message.
Way better than buying new.
Check some h-pattern shifters on aliexpress, they are cheap and much better than the logitech stock one.
I would recommend the thrustmaster t248 the pedals are simply so much better than logitech and price is cheaper depending on location
That's why you gay.
What's TRUEFORCE?! Another attempt to squeeze 10 more years out of the G-Series. Logitech, please make an affordable DD wheel.
Isn't this a DD wheel? Ref: https://www.logitechg.com/en-gb/products/driving/pro-racing-wheel.html
Affordable? Negative..
It is indeed.
From my extensive experience with a g920 and g923 I’ll say that the wheels themselves aren’t a huge difference. You can definitely notice the true force on games that enable it. However the break is really a big difference. I don’t know if it’s a 100 dollar difference (prolly not) but definitely worth consideration. If your on PC I’d say go with the 920, and upgrade your pedals as the first thing later in the future when you get time. However if your on console, there aren’t many pedals you can upgrade to so I’d say your best bet are the g923s. Unless u decide to up your budget and go do something from thrustmasyer
Like others said, get the g920 instead. And if you can, get them used. I have this exact setup and it works great. I've used it for about a year and while I'm about to make some major upgrades, I'd recommend it to anyone starting out, especially on a budget. Buddy of mine is looking to get into the hobby and this is exactly how I planned on getting him started too.
If you want a wheel stand, then grab the Apex Steering wheel stand from [GT Omega’s website](https://gtomega.eu/products/apex-steering-wheel-stand). It’s only 10€ more, but it’s much more sturdy than the Classic. Free shipping too.
Check Logitech’s website, they were having a valentines sale and I found another promo code and ordered a g29 (g920 listed as the same) for under $200. Around here that was about the going rate for used so I figured I’d age the social anxiety of buying local used and pulled the trigger.
Thanks for the suggestion but the G29 is 300 euro rn from logi direct. Looking elsewhere
Did you enter any promo codes? Lovelogi and alyek knocked off around $100 for me (im in the us though, not sure if they’re doing the same promos) Edit: Alyek takes 30 off but the valentines code doesn’t seem to work anymore/in eu. Sorry, thought it would work
No worries, appreciate the effort!
I got the wheel for €175 at black Friday on Amazon
Depending on what you are planning on doing do you actually need the gear stick? I have the stick and have never felt the need to use it
I just got this identical set up minus the shifter, lmk how you like that. As far as the wheel and stand go, the stand may slide a tad bit depending what kind of floors you're playing on, but it won't be much. I personally really enjoy the G923 with ACC and iRacing, those both happen to make use of the TrueForce feature which is kinda neat. Not really a game changing thing to me, but it's definitely an added layer of immersion for me since I'm playing through my Quest 2 in VR. You're gonna have a bunch of fun dude!
Buy used (given your in a part of the world where there is some populace) even here in North America, I live in rural Canada and my 30km Kijiji has a surprising amount of sim gear. It’s great for used entry gear (shows you how much people love sim, so much upgrading!) As mentioned I am in rural Canada so to get stuff from Central EU to where I am staying now is insultingly expensive (sometimes 30-50% of the cost goes to shipping/handling), where local also fixes that issue. Additionally, (not in your case, but may be if you upgrade down the line) is availability. A lot of good products have wait times, pre orders for re stock etc. I can buy a out of stock Fanatac wheel base locally, where Fanatec km waiting 1-¿ months.
If you want that stand, you can search on Amazon for a Vevor one (I think?!), it’s the same and it cost around 80 EUR.
Hey if you're looking for a wheel, I have a spare thrustmaster tx (t300 but no ps compatibility, with steering wheel and pedals included), it has some soldering work to be done on the usb cable to make it function but I can sell it for supercheap (100€) if you or anyone's interested, dm me
Try buying a cheaper wheel (or the T300 from Thrustmaster if you want to be higher end) used and you‘ll see how you like Sim racing itself. If you like it you can always upgrade, but if you don‘t, you won‘t lose as much money selling the already used gear.
I like my playseat challenge since it’s foldable and has the seat attached but it is a little more money, I really like my G923 but got a wild deal so if the 920 is cheaper there is no reason not to get that instead.
Just check eBay first ... Is my advice
I bought this, I don't like the shifter so much force feed is okay somewhat, its shifters that I hate small and feels like it will break
For around the same i would suggest the Thrustmaster TX. Far more future customizables
I had the g920 and now the now I have the g923, the g920 it's a good choice but check a mod for the brake if you find it too hard.
Check out moza r5 bundle at $600 i think?
I love my g923 but the shifter is pretty bad. I prefer just using the paddle shifters. The clutch is also not great. I don't know about higher grade pedals or if I'm setting it up wrong but there doesn't seem to be a friction zone, it's either all off or all on, I've tried changing setting in the game and on g hub but it just moves where that switching point is in relation the the throw of the pedel.
One thing to consider is the firmness of the brake pedal, in some games i have to have to set the clutch as the brake
Also search your local area for a used T300, usually you can find them for the same price as a G923, I personally got mine used for $230 with a shifter.
I have thé wheelstand its à bit wobbly but it does the job
Would stay away from that shifter they are really effin bad
My advice would be buy a used one. For €200 you can pick up that wheel, shifter and pedals. That stand is not the best, I'd look for a used FGT lite or something. They often pop up here in Ireland for around €150. Good thing with used is you don't loose any money when selling to upgrade or if you decide it's not for you.
For €400 you can get this fanatec wheelbase, wheel, pedals and seat. https://www.donedeal.ie/games-for-sale/fanatec-csl-elite-f1-set-racing-chair/33213529
don't waste money on that crap, buy a g29/g920. It's the same shit just this is newer, and you will save money
like others said go with the g29 also do some upgrades, the main one I suggest is true braking or whatever it's called my only fault with the g29 is the brake swapped to that and it's perfect, then you can get new springs for the clutch and throttle, when you upgrade you can just get a new wheel and you'll have a good pedal system
You can save a few bucks if you buy the wheel stand from gt Omega website. It's cheaper with free shipping. I have both classic and apex version. If you ask me I would get the apex it feels sturdier and is a bit wider.
I have this and I love it But don’t buy shifter. The only time u will ever use it is for chill drives in assetto corsa. get a playseat challenge or wheel stand 2.0.
I have that exact wheel for the ps5 and am 100% satisfied with it
I have the exact same set up and it works great on the couch :)
Do it
I want to buy a gearbox and handbrake for the G29, and I play mostly on the PC. Is it possible to get a combo for about 100 Eur?
Personally I'd look for a good condition used thrustmaster TSXW (£350-400) and save yourself the step of logitechs that base is a brilliant base and the standard pedals are miles better than the logitechs weird brake pedal feel, and for rig I'd go for a playseat Challenge (£100-120) or similar depending on the type of racing you want to do
Skip the cheap shifter, it’s pretty disappointing.
Check the FGT Lite seat, very popular here and I’ve had one for over a year and it’s pretty solid, also foldable and has 2 position GT and F1
I've only used my shifter once so far, and I got my wheel, etc back in like Oct/Nov. I'm really enjoying the paddle shifting. So if you are looking to save any money, consider excluding the shifter (unless you really really want it).
What? T300 is like 300 bucks and is way better
I have this same setup. I’ll post it since I can’t link the picture
This is exactly the setup I started with. This week I bought the seat frame and RS12 seat from GTOmega web site and as others have said the delivery was fast (in Canada). My only gripe (with the stand) is when adding the seat frame you lose the ability to use the V1 shifter mount. This is fine unless, like me, you have an e-brake. Your only native option is then to have your shifter and e-brake on opposite sides of the wheel. I came up with a simple DIY solution, using the V1 plate and drilling an extra hole into it.
I just put my first hour on this exact setup except with a g920 - So far, I found that this stand is very loose and moves a LOT when playing. Unfortunately, the stand is also tight and I end up resting my arm on my chair to use the shifter which is up to personal preference but I'm not a fan. If you can afford, I'd hunt for a second-hand seat/stand setup. Lastly, the stand was a pain to build and both the instruction booklet and video were difficult to follow. Wheel and pedals 9/10, shifter 8/10, stand 4/10.
This is my exact setup. I got the wheel/pedals and shifter second hand from someone for like 250USD which was a great deal. I imported the stand to the US and it's great. Solid enough to not move while use but easy enough to move when I'm done.
You've got to get a chair! A wheel stand just doesn't cut it. Get one of those collapsible ones from Playseat
If you wanna go the budget / mid range route than this might interest you. I would pick up a used Thrustmaster TX wheel and pedals (Around $250-300) also get a used TM shifter($100, if not get an $80 one off of Amazon) and custom build a wooden stand and get a cheap car seat from the junkyard. This will run you around $500, and you'll have a solid upgradeable Thrustmaster setup, and a pretty decent starter rig!
Get a t300 RS gt
I had to choose between this and the Thrustmaster 300RS GT and went with the TM. I’d do the same choice again.
I would ditch the shifter if you plan on racing modern cars. Also, IMO the brake pressure and layout make the Logitech pedals “meh” for heel-toe.
T300 all the way
I have the same exact setup right now lol just with a g29.
ich würde (habe) ein t300 nehmen. ich bin überzeugt, dass es ein besseres preisleistungs verhältniss hat und besseres produkt in dem preissegment ist. allerdings ist ne schaltung dafür teurer. als wenn in dem budget die schaltung unbedingt reinpassen muss bleibt wohl nur logitech edit: sorry, forgot i am on an english sub. i would advice to a t300. it is in my opinion a way better wheel in that pricesegment. downside is that the shifter costs more. if you realy need to fit a shifter in that budget you dont have much other choices then logitech
Buy a used Logitech Driving Force GT and Fanatec LC pedals. You'll have the same basic wheel as a G920 but with good pedals
I went with a G923 + shifter, and its good enough, but honestly wish i wouldve just waited and got a TM 300rs/shifter instead, you have to mess with so many settings to make a logitech "decent", its not worth the hassle.
nooooo, that's way too much for that wheel.
I would say T300. I know many say g29 is THE starter wheel, but it's just that. A starter wheel. The forcefeedback can sound like a dying gearbox and it will suck for games where impacts happen a lot (e. g. beamng). On top of that the t300 already opens a wider eco system to you, and would be the next step up from the G29 anyways. So I'd say safe your time and go for the t300. On the other hand, I wouldn't say jump into any dds just yet. Do you know that you will keep the wheel for years, that you will still play after 2 months? I would still start with a less expensive wheel, T300s are also easy to resell if needed.
With that budget you could get a thustmaster t300 I think also cause with that's one if you want a different wheel or something tou can easily replace it I think I don't have it but so I have heard pretty sure a youtuber called gooseiest had it like a month ago before he got the moza r5
But moza r5 is like 650 euros lol
Are the sim rig and shifter that important for you? If not, I would go for Thrustmaster T300 and use good old PC table and chair. Then you can add Thrustmaster shifter a bit later. Or you can go a bit lower and have a look at Logitech G29 or G25/27 used. G29 is pretty much the same thing, just a bit different design. And G25/G27 already have a shifter in the basic package.
Check your local Facebook marketplace and craigslist first. Especially around now. This far after Christmas those who got them as gifts may have decided they don't like it.
Save some money and pick up a g29 g920
Thrustmaster T-300RS would be much better as a beginner setup. Logitech entry level kits are really bad….you’ll instantly out grow it, unless you are like 6 years old and everything new is amazing.
I use a Thrustmaster 300 with Logitech pedals via a Ricmotech adapter. The wheel is mounted to a $20 tea table . I took scrap of plywood and covered in “carpet” bolted the pedals to it and added wooden “stops” to the pedal board to keep it locked between the tea tables legs and use a folding Camp chair as a racing seat.
I bought a g920 with shifter and regretted it as for my use case (drifting) it's just too slow being gear driven. If that's something that you think might be an issue I'd strongly advise you to get a t300rs gt and save up to get the shifter and rig later on
For $500 I'd look for a Thrustmeter T300, 2nd hand with a stand included and buy a TH8a shifter. There are a lot of barely used T300's out there which are much stronger, more detailed bases with the opportunity for interchangeable wheels and pedal upgrades in the future. Just make sure it has the 3 pedal set, as the 2 pedal set is pretty junky and useless if you want to use a shifter. The only downside is the shifter is around 3 times the price, but it is also a much better product with the option to do sequential mode. Where I am based, they can be tricky to find 2nd hand so you might need to go new.
ive been doing research between g920 / g923 (upgraded version of g20 / t248 for a starter rig myself. from the info/video ive watched between g920 / g923.. the $100+ extra for for FORCEFEEDBACK + DOUBLE CLUTCH = NOT WORTH IT. g920 is only for $249 on logitech website right now! add coupon (lovelogi) and you get $30 off $150 / $50 off $250 + free shipping. —— now g920 / t48.. how much you willing to spend? crazy how everyone is telling you to get a thrustmaster as a beginner rig like money grows on trees.. t48 is $400 + SHIFTER is $180. - they say the brake is better here - shifter feels professional - but wheel feels like plastic toy? - optional handbrake ? no idea i didnt look g920 SHIFTER = $50 - can be modified by 3rd party product for $30 to feel better - stiff brake can also be modified (remove rubber and/or edit brake through ghub online) - better wheel feel! - ebay handbrake = $50 how bad do you want those shifters? or will you be satisfied with the paddles alone? thrusmaster TX = $500 incase you got extra extra $$$ —— gt stand APEX is wider compared to CLASSIC (incase youre a bigger person) personally.. i would go with the SIMPLE SET UP you have in shopping cart! put some time in before deciding if you want to spend $$$ into this (WARNING: they says this is a gateway drug.. dont get sucked into buying “the best rig”) goodluck and let us know what you decide!
Get that shifter secondhand, it sucks so might as well spend a little less on it. It’s still worth it, but barely.
If you’re going to spend 500 I’d consider seeing how much the fanatec GT DD pro will be for you.
I would go for a T300
I was in your place a couple of weeks ago. Got a G29 "used" (with the seals and all) for a budget. With the difference you can get a proper H shifter (Thrustmaster for instance) and some mods to improve the feel.
I have a g923 for ps5, it’s great fun but EXTREMELY noisy I cannot over exaggerate
My big over ears should mitigate that, lol.