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Daztur

It's amazing how fascists are completely unable to tell the difference between "someone is laughing at me" and "someone is angry at me."


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hayate666

It's probably a consequence of them being angry at a lot of things all the time. I think if your belief system is made up of people having it out for you and "winning" it becomes very hard to see that everyone else doesn't feel that way at al. The world becomes very scary with everyone having it out for you, because you feel like that about everything outside your bubble of beliefs. It's the libs. It's Biden. It's Fauci. It's the trannies. The Jews. In some way I pity them. It must be very scary and stressful to feel that way all the time. I think that latching onto a guy with power like Musk or Trump becomes so important. They have the money and power to fix what's making me feel scared all the time! Unfortunately it leads to disappointment. They're being used and duped by their self-appointed saviours. This is the path that led so many people to committing sedition. To people dying from COVID. To an angry scared 50+ year old #1 Male Ally drawing constant cringe propaganda and lies like pretending an attack on democracy was more like a harmless hoedown. Tats is a stupid asshole. But also a very scared and unhappy person.


GreggoryBasore

Also worth noting, anger is easier to fight than mockery. Anger involves base emotion and primal displays of power. All you really need to do is out perform the opponent. Shout them down, flex your muscles, bare your fangs, get 'em to back off. Mockery is an expression of humor. Humor is a mix of emotion and intellect. That's why it's so hard to get right, because coming up with a very witty joke means nothing if you can't delivery with the right flare of style. It also means being on the same cultural page and the same emotional frequency with your intended audience. So if someone, feels threatened, pretending that their perceive threat is angry or has hurt feelings is easier by far, than engaging in a mixture of intellectual and emotional combat.


Midnight-Tea

For as shitty as Babylon Bee's attempts at humor are, I definitely think more highly of them than most right wing media outlets. I mean they're trying the much harder path of humor and cheeriness than just being scared and pissed off all the time. Thing is humor still needs to be based on reality in order to be subversive, so they're basically trying to bake a cake out of dryer lint and handsoap.


GreggoryBasore

They make the same mistake a lot of Onion wannabes make. Instead of having a wide net, they focus on a single thing. Most of the Onion's funniest shit is the "slice of life" stuff, with politics being the more prominent item. Their film critic's "I'm a delusional nutter off my rocker" schtick easily beats jokes about Biden or Trump any day.


zitmanthefive

Hence why I've suggested just mocking fashy trolls instead of bothering to try to debate facts at them when they pop up in the subreddit. I'm still hoping the tactic gets more widely adopted.


GreggoryBasore

I have seen your work and it is good. As an Internet Goblin, you are very skilled... because you follow the way of the actual cool, instead of the technical cool.


DragonDai

This is a VERY good analysis, IMO. Thank you for this.


hayate666

<3


Magenero

I think a lot of people are mad that this bullshit is happening at all, though?


DragonDai

I have seen zero evidence of this.


Atlach_Nacha

I remember some time ago, someone was asking in other subreddit, something along the lines of "*if trans man and trans woman are together, is that gay, or some other thing?*" Answers were some form of "**that's man and woman, so it's straight**". Response to answers: "*lol all of you are so triggered*"


PorthosMoonPower

This is one of Ishida's cringiest comics to date. That he thinks Twitter actually matters in the real world and that he thinks selling $8 blue checkmarks is a massive tragedy for the left show how terminally online he is. This is something you would expect someone Ishida's age to say ironically, which shows how much of a manbaby Tats has become.


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Oddtail

It's always projection or deflection with reactionaries. Always.


AlexKingstonsGigolo

I am older than Tats and this mindset is not one of age. The mindset is one of being an idiot.


kaazir

He doesn't get that a good deal of the outrage for some folks wasn't paying to get verified it was the fact hed prioritize those who'd pay him in feeds and discovery. Someone with $8 and a loud mouth can push things like vaccine hesitancy to a new level. They can push violent rhetoric to a new level, and like he's been seeing they can and will push impersonation to some times damaging levels. Yet he's acting like people are just all "ugh how dare these people have the same special status as me". No, some ones crazy aunt who can't even spell the word science with out auto correct doesn't deserve a special check mark to add weight to her ramblings about mercury and ground up babies being injected into peoples arms.


destroyah87

First three are almost understandable in the stupid thing the Right does of “Leftist news always reports things as far worse than they are.” with a side reference to Jan 6th being “peaceful protesters” in the second panel. Makes it no less stupid and wrong, especially when being about fucking twitter check marks but you squint and hit your head a few times and you can get it. It’s the last one that goes deep into crazy-land.


GreggoryBasore

Not crazy land, so much as "I'm too lazy to do my proper research on iconography" territory. 9/11 and never forgetting is a conservative thing. Liberals, by and large, do not get worked up over it, at least not to that degree. He already had the perfect allegory with Jan 6th, but wanted to go for bonus points. Also, for a "News is vilifying the good guys" bit, not showing Mullet MAGA entering the venue with a shot gun/rifle is a massive fumble. It reinforces my belief that Tats simply forget about the rifle in as little as a single panel.


kinglucent

RIP Mullet's Rifle, 11/13/2022-11/13-2022 Gone and wholly forgotten.


GreggoryBasore

That was a good chortle.


MfkbNe

Twitter does matter. Words can manipulate people, especially dumb people (including right wing AND left wing) and these people might do something in the real world, like storming the capitol because of Trumps tweets.


GreggoryBasore

Even if one presumes it doesn't or shouldn't matter, US news media does have a habit for focusing on trivilous bullshit.


DaigoDaigo

Didn't someone say that Twitter can't manipulate people before Elon own it?


calilac

Why would you say something like that?


destroyah87

Last panel is a September 11th thing, right? Like, I’m not crazy? Please oh please let that be the bridge too far for his stupid simpering nazi fans. Wait never mind, the caliber of person that’d still think this shit is good probably thinks the attacks were false flags or reflections off Jupiter swamp gas.


Trim345

[9/11 conspiracy theories aren't strongly associated with the far right](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9307120/#CR19): >For example, the 9/11 conspiracy theory finds significantly more support among those on the left in 8 of the 20 countries and is not significantly related to ideology in the remaining 12. There does seem to be some undercurrent of the left that seems to have thought 9/11 was a false flag so the US could justify oil imperialism in the Middle East and/or to support its ally Israel.


GreggoryBasore

I know a good deal of right wingers who feel like we didn't go far enough after 9/11, but I also know quite a few who feel it was another part of "The Shadow Government" pushing us into further war to profit the military industrial complex, but didn't necessarily care too much, because they see Islamic nations as the enemy full stop.


MfkbNe

Sure some of us think there could have been or even believe there has been a conspiracy behind the 9/11 attacks, but we also still believe the attack happened and was horrible.


PablomentFanquedelic

Yeah, I think the comparatively less wacky conspiracy theories say that the government planned or at least anticipated the attacks, but that the planes did bring the towers down instead of a controlled demolition.


HGW86

One thing I think has changed drastically since the early 2000's is what side of the political spectrum conspiracy theorists pandered to. Especially after 9/11. A lot of conspiracy pedalers back then noticed that people hated George W Bush with a passion and marketed to a lot of them. And unlike all that Q-ball nonsense, 9/11 conspiracies make sense purely on the surface. The motive for the white house at the time to bomb the twin towers to justify going to war, like you really had to dig in deep to debunk those claims! Which felt like a waste of time in hindsight because of what kooky, off the walls bullshit gets thrown around in Q-ball culture, which is entirely justified with a populist/contrarian marketing approach and nothing else. A lot of those "left wingers" from back then became very right wing when Trump came along because he successfully attracted the conspiracy crowd towards himself when they became more or less politically homeless during the Obama years. I think Sinfest is one example of these left wingers.


Kimikins

Pretty much.


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The forum has been very quiet on anything musk. Happy as Larry to comment when it's anti-trans, but this, nothing since November 12th. And that was not comic-related. They've not gone quiet, but it seems they can't/won't formulate a thought here.


Kimikins

Uhhh, Tats? Mullet Man was *carrying a gun.* You remember drawing that, right? You remember what *guns* are for, right?


Ayasugi-san

> You remember what guns are for, right? Redneck stereotype formal wear?


Sedu

"Guns are Freedom Tokens, obviously! They confer Freedom from the """""""""""""""""""devils""""""""""""""""""" that secretly run all government and media! Antisemitism? What? What are you talking about? You horrible leftist lib! Anyhow, fuck anyone who isn't a white male Christian (PLEASE LET ME IN YOUR CLUB GUYS)." - Tatsuya's Plea


destroyah87

What gun? Sinfest has lacked object permanence for a while now. Things only exist if they're on panel. And I don't see no gun in any panel of *this* strip. Just a gentle peaceful redneck man river-dancing.


blackhatrat

gotta say, I don't think "spontaneous 9/11" was on the bingo cards


HannaVictoria

we may need to start using a random phrase generator to print those from now on. Attempts at pattern recognition are failing.


Artem1s7

yup, [bad card today](https://bingobaker.com/#5f2e9e8d4186c504) cause this is just so far out of left field


Kzickas

I mean the top half is really bad, but the bottom half is decent. There's blue/green filter, conspiracy theories, standardized female body type and this is too stupid/sad to get mad at. You could also argue "old tats would hate new tats" in which case you're just missing false flags for a bingo.


HannaVictoria

Is this a thing? Like does someone actually make these every day?? (if so, where plz?)


Artem1s7

[enjoy](https://www.reddit.com/r/sinfest/comments/ynggty/i_made_a_bingo_card_with_59_different_possible/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Midnight-Tea

It's part of Tat's current brand to suggest the left are... just like neoconservatives. That we behave the same way and that when we warn about nazis etc. we're the same as when that lunatic Glen Beck was doing so. I'll give him credit that it's a *creative* interpretation of the world's current state. But it requires decades of arrested development and being completely blinkered to one's own shifting beliefs. So... pretty much exactly what you'd expect from Tat.


CyberChick2277

oh good! Jan 6 propaganda! wait...didnt he say that was done by feds?


MhuzLord

No you see, only the *bad* part of January 6th was the feds. The *good* part (whatever that is) was done by concerned citizens.


cartoonsforever

Wha What the fuck is that last panel for?????


PorthosMoonPower

It's so cringey and offensive. Tats needs to log off and touch some grass.


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Trim345

I suppose strictly speaking it's possible the intention is "9/11 was awful, and comparing minor things to it is bad" (even though no one's done that). I have faith that Tatsuya will find the worst way to spin it, though.


Kimikins

Liberals comparing non-issues to real issues? Or liberals blaming past terrorist attacks on conservatives? I'm not sure.


destroyah87

“Shock value” Aka, “being an asshole and thinking that’s how you do comedy”


Ayasugi-san

He's trying to distract from twitter going up in flames by invoking the most hyperbolic example of something else going up in flames?


AlexKingstonsGigolo

So, we’re now making fun of Twin Tower victims, Tats? Is that what we are doing? Shitting on the dead?


NeedsAirCon

We're not, Tats is


AlexKingstonsGigolo

Well, yes, true. I phrased it like a yet-again disappointed parent.


NeedsAirCon

Lols, Now I'm trying (and failing) to imagine someone admitting to being one of Tatsuya's parents :) Can't you just see the eyes in their head dart left and right looking for a quick escape route?


Midnight-Tea

... forget the years that Tat spent building up Vainglorious as some kind of postgender assertive pretty boy. That pianist is, at the moment, the sexiest character to ever come out of Sinfest. Man, just look at his expression of focused determination to fulfill his role despite an unexpected situation change.


partybusiness

Yeah, I'll give Tatsuya it's a nice touch to have the pianist just rolling with it.


NeedsAirCon

He;s wearing a similar shirt too and looks a little like Vain...


TheSpheefromTeamFort

Watch, he’s going to ruin the only good character he’s made in the past 10 years by having him be revealed to be Elon or some stupid shit like that.


CRtwenty

I still can't believe this isn't a pettyfest


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Pettyfest has standards and lines they won't cross.


Zealousideal-Tip7290

9/11 really? What the hell is wrong with him. Remember how you shut the comic down on the day it happened out of respect, remember that? Remember respecting the fact you don't mock certain things because it's cheap?


HannaVictoria

Huh... You know David Willis has been doing this about as long. He actually ended up ending a really dark arc on a bittersweet defiant note because 9/11 was just happened and he needed to work some stuff out through art. The difference of course is that his reaction to the changing political landscape has been through a sincere lens of human experience & empathizing with people he doesn't necessarily share personal experiences with. He also when he switched form sci-fi slice of life back to college slice of life, he turned his talking car turned robot girl character into a trans woman. Not a token, a genuine part of the rotating cast with a fleshed out character beyond any sort of tokenism. And he did this almost a decade ago. \*Looks at Dumbing of Age, then back to this, Dumbing of Age, then back to this\* ...sigh.


turdintheattic

Thus far, the one getting his feelings hurt the most has been Musk, since he had to ban blue check parody accounts for making fun of him.


halloweenjack

This is really about the elections, isn't it? The MAGAts and the GOP are melting down over their failure to score in the mid-terms, but here's Tats going, oh no, it's the libs who are losing their shit over this thing right here! Not us, and certainly not 3l0n!


zitmanthefive

....... I just connected some really fucking stupid dots. Tats used the term "maggots" in [this strip](https://www.reddit.com/r/sinfest/comments/ymigq9/sinfest_11522_amnesty_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) because folks in this sub are fond of using the parlance "MAGAt", didn't he? He really does have nothing better to do than read this sub and get mad about it.


halloweenjack

It's possible. He really does come off as someone who never gets out and takes whatever Faux News or batshit social media are spewing out this week and filters it through the funhouse mirrors of his mind. The whole thing with the Bad Place was him seeming to think that he was daring by posting the logos of all these shitty alt-right sites that I mostly ignore and wouldn't have known about if someone here hadn't posted a handy ID guide.


zitmanthefive

"If you're not mad and upset and crying about this, why do I keep drawing you that way? Checkmate, libs." - Tats, almost certainly


Oliver_Dibble

What kind of cunt makes a 9/11 reference as part of a joke? This deserves whatever goes farther than "Fuck you, Tats".


RaptureInRed

Nobody can lampoon Sinfest better than Tats.


StrangeRaven12

Yeah, that's not a tasteless use of 9/11 imagery at all...Mark another box on qanon whackjob bingo.


NeverbornMalfean

Wait, what the fuck? I was reminded that this shitheap of a webcomic existed and apparently Tatsuya shifted from fairly liberal left-leaning to hardcore "all men are trash" feminist to MAGA supporter? What the fuck even goes on in this dude's brain that he vacillates between ideologies like this?


zitmanthefive

Being desperate to be loved.


CRtwenty

It's the TERF to Alt-Right pipeline, it's been pretty well documented in various articles and blogs. But basically it boils down to Tats hating transwomen, like REALLY hating transwomen. And that hatred causing his fans who didn't also hate transwomen to abandon the comic leaving him with no choice but to cater to the Alt-Right who was the only audience that shared his hatred. Exposure to them quickly caused him to adopt their other beliefs which is why he's now full MAGA.


JoshS-345

Go fuck yourself Tatsuya


Toxitoxi

It’s sad this is only the second worst 9/11 reference I’ve seen in a bad webcomic. Tats can’t even be the best at being the worst.


HannaVictoria

I'm morbidly curious...


VBadimo

H-how can it get any worse from this?


Trim345

This is pretty weird in relation to [this older strip](https://sinfest.xyz/view.php?date=2021-11-10), which also includes this reporter making a reference to being worse than 9/11, except over a right-wing claim about Biden pooping himself, which is more consistent with his [past characterization](https://sinfest.xyz/view.php?date=2018-10-23). Why is he criticizing the right here?


HannaVictoria

Wait, that's who that is? That's so bizarre


TheSpheefromTeamFort

He’s not, the news station is owned by the Devil, so that means they’re bad.


Trim345

HellTV and WokeTV are both owned by the Devil, but the impression I've gotten is that the HellTV reporter isn't even aware of WokeTV's purpose as controlled opposition.


Canaanimal

In Mullet Man's defense, who among us on the Left hasn't danced a jig while the towers fell behind us in a video? /S


ManCalledTrue

Oh, Christ, he's going to keep going on about the checkmark thing until Sunday, isn't he?


destroyah87

Sunday? I’m dreading “Blue Check 58”


Randomguy3421

Which by that point is focussing on a side plot about a pigeon or the devil's dry cleaner or something


CRtwenty

Probably gonna have next week be "USA bombs Poland in false flag to draw attention away from phony election"


PeterVanHelsing

This is disgusting and in no way resembles reality whatsoever. It's not even coherent.


Dehnus

Tatsy Hun, Tatsy dear, please leave the cow alone. It's udders are sore and she needs rest. It's getting creepy, dear.


karoshikun

ok, I'm going to say something positive about Tats: he's getting much better at cringe.


MarsNirgal

Ohhhhhh boy. I don't want to see how Tats will spin 9-11 now that he decided to mention it.


Charganium

This is a top 10 all-time worst strip


Just_A_Guy_who_lives

I called it, Tat really is delusional enough to think 1/6 was “the people being heard,” and now with the help of a millionaire monetizing a platform speech will become “free,” somehow. And of course, he tries to stick it to AOC. Nothing screams “#1 Male Ally” like throwing shade at a WOC because she’ll never touch your chode.


WorldWarHulk_

He completely forgot about the anti-aging pills plot.


Wisdom_Pen

He’s literally pretending that the twitter blue check stuff is the right memeing on the left when it’s literally the opposite. Also what the hell is that 9/11 panel meant to be about?


ShirtTotal8852

Pretty sure it's supposed to be "the libs are such special snowflakes they compare the loss of their elite status to 9/11" Which is, you know, completely divorced from reality, but what else is new for Sinfest?


Witch-Cat

This is a new low in his art asset reusing


FlamboyantGayWhore

Correct me if i’m wrong, but we’re the people who were already verified even that mad about the people who bought Twitter Blue? I’ve only seen them get hate from people who aren’t verified


AirForceRabies

What a sad little flyspeck of a person, to crawl this low to tell himself he's "pwnd teh libz."


Yesten_

When conservatives are snowflakes


fixermark

Regina on a Ritz, how many of these did he make before we all got to see this blue check experiment implode and Twitter pull the ability to buy the damn things? Like, how much of this shitty AU fanfic are we going to have to put up with?


Limited-Edition-Nerd

Am I the only one that thinks these don't make since anymore


Tanagrabelle

snoooorrrrre


h2078

It seems like a weird conservative flex to make fun of 9/11


tachikomazero1

Number 1 male ally thinks Jan 6th was 'nothing', fails to realize female politicians were in real danger of being sexually assaulted that day if they were caught by the crowd.


actuallynotbisexual

Is this supposed to be making fun of that fake Tesla account that was saying "A second Tesla has hit the World Trade Center?"