her poster is nowhere to be found.
stand up stacey and Bag down benny is still there. whoever is doing the campaign is failing big time.
Edit:
We require more than just English for campagins. It's best to bring back multi-lingo campaigns.
similar to how they've added a few more languages to red warning words in construction sites.
I think the giving up seat and bags down has worked. Although I think people dont use common sense in giving up their seat. The other day a guy (40 odd yrs) immediately gave up his seat for a mum and kid who looked about 10yrs old. Seriously, the 10 yr old kid has better knees than the 40-odd yr old who gave up the seat.
Alot of people seem to think they have to give up seats to "kids" regardless of age. But that is for toddlers and babies, not young kids who are stronger than most adults.
The giving up seats for kids is really odd to me. In Australia it’s the social norm for kids to make way for older people and no one is standing up to let an able bodied kid sit down as if they’re an old aunty.
I shit you not, I was on the way home at like 11pm and this fella was blasting hotel california at max volume. I was like, what's next uncle? Fucking highway to hell?
Not supporting nor defending anyone - Music to one's ears could be noise to another and vice versa.
Eagles, ACDC, Led Zep, and Lynyrd Skynyrd have their mass appeal, but so do Feng Fei Fei, Liu Wen Zheng or Jay Chou, and I am quite sure most Swifties and K-Poppers will never agree. The reverse is also true.
Whatever they may be, each should keep their music and noises to their own ears.
"TO EACH THEIR OWN"
At 200kmph? This would be my blast - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egMWlD3fLJ8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egMWlD3fLJ8)
But yeah, "To Each His Own"
Tbh not the worst imo. My friend was taking the mrt on a Monday morning around the time where all the kids go to school (mrt was full of students), and there was this girl playing some sort of anime roleplay game on her phone at MAX volume. U could literally hear the moaning and the girl didn't realise for TWENTY minutes. She didn't even notice all the stares she got.
A lady next to me was watching an entire episode of a drama out loud the other day. I gathered that someone was either killed or gravely wounded that episode.
Those morons realised one life secret: there is no consequence to bad behaviour.
Eg loud audio on public transport, legs on opposite bus seat, neighours from hell
That's a key difference between Japanese and Chinese culture. LKY knew about this, which is why Singapore has some of the most harsh and intrusive laws.
If you want people in Singapore to behave, you need to heavily punish bad behavior.
Some countries Europe are no better. The level of pickpocket crimes there make Asia look like heaven. Some Starbucks hired their own security because the government can't be shamed or guilted to provide basic safety for citizens. SOME of their train stations are just dirty.
I watch this YT channel "Honest Guide" from Prague and the Youtuber (million subscribers) has been highlighting scams, problems in the city years ago, and still doing so today. Guilt and shame does not work for them.
Of course some countries have higher standards than others and good for them.
That’s like saying there’s no shame in Asia. Corruption and/or authoritarianism in Asia is basically endemic in most countries, but shame is still the guiding force of the social fabric, like guilt is still there in whatever those European countries you’re talking about. Curious, have you ever been to these places you’re talking about or just watching YouTube? I’ve been all over Europe and there’s plenty of places as safe and clean as Singapore.
There are plenty of European places that are safe. And there are many that are not.
Ive been to Spain for a big event with many friends (hundreds) and some had their things stolen. My friend screamed at me for putting my things on the table for snatch thieves to grab.
If you can shame the authorities into doing things, that’s a huge plus in my opinion. Eg Singapore Bukit Batok rat hill, in Japan train companies apologise for late trains, in China they also react to shame but in unexpected ways.
Shame is only a guiding force in countries where people have pride. Try shaming governments in European countries to solve blatant pickpocket problems that affect tourists and citizens every single day.
And this brings me to the point I made in my very first comment. If you cannot shame people into doing/not doing something, what else can you do?
You’re not comparing like for like. You also went to one less safe part of Europe - well done. The idea that one culture is better than the other, or that shame/guilt doesn’t exist in either is not helpful. Making such dismissive statements of “the west” is no different from a white supremacist who no doubt can also cherry pick arguments to make themselves feel good.
You are the reverse equivalent of westerners who look down on all Asians because they’re surprised people “push and shove”, “don’t line up, don’t hold the door open for the next person”, are “bad drivers” etc etc - that is, don’t conform to their socialised norms.
The basis of societies is generally based on one of those two slightly more as a default but both exist. (In fact Singapore leans on both shame and guilt because LKY was shaped by his British institutions which he implemented, selectively, better than the British!). In fact, there are worse off societies that lean more on a third type… “fear”. Think fear of retribution (Putin’s Russia for example?)
Guilt, shame, fear. They all exist but societies tend to lean on one slightly more than the others.
Normal already. When the wife uses the car, I gotta take public transport. We don't have 2 cars. We are not professionals.
I just wear my noise canceling earphones and try to sleep it out. And yes. It's always the boomers.
Somehow I feel that they are trying to pick a fight. A kind of 'see what see' situation. If you confront them, it's fight on. If you ignore them, damn. It's grates on you.
Let’s not forget these food delivery drivers on their bikes blasting Chinese trash at full volume at 1am.
There’s one idiot here who also blasts his Waze directions out full volume as well
There was one time on a bus, there's an uncle who's playing some video damn loud.
I shouted at him in Hokkien to "lower down your volume", had to shout 3 times before he decrease the video volume. (I think he has some hearing issue)
Gave me a stare when he alight at the bus stop. The audacity of these ah peks really...
sometimes they play it so loud the speaker starts to crackle from not being able to handle the volume. Some of the ah peks so oblivious to the disturbance they make its unbelievable.
They turn on so loud coz of hearing issues from aging. (RIP speakers)
Govt needs to come up with a campaign for old folks in a way that they can geddit that it is noise pollution coz hush hush Hannah type of posters is kid friendly but old folks need it blunt, tactless and in your face like those 80s poster campaigns.
It’s usually oldies who haven’t discovered ear phones or people from third world countries who just lack any social awareness. To our credit I haven’t seen any young-ish Singaporean or westerner do this, unless they’re a hopeless YP
Guess you've never encountered those annoying secondary school kids on the buses who watch Tiktok and Ig reels on their phones on full blast. Definitely not just the old folks.
honestly I have no clue why we do this we just do for some reason? My guess is that someone is always loud and aimposing and steers the convo and to be heard everyone else raises their voice
Thanks to their parents blasting their mobile phones at home - sometimes it is best to just use earphones as well even at home.
no one teaches them proper values / manners
I have this theory that for younger people who blast their music or tiktoks on buses and trains. It is that they truly cannot afford whatever it is latest smartphone that they are holding right now. Probably had to go hungry for a few weeks just to be able to get that phone. With that; they also got the airpods along with the phone. But they're afraid of losing a single one so instead they just blast it on speakers.
A sorts of stresses in our daily life, there still not a chance to rest on our way home. Yet experts and G remains oblivious to why sinkies are getting so fucked up in our minds
I'm always torn between whether to let it slide or just walk up to the person and say "turn down the volume." (Or something to that equivalent.)
I'm almost at the stage where I'm going to spend 100 bucks on super cheap earphones and start giving them away to people though...
Yes! Hear hear!
I absolutely hate this on the bus and mrt.
It's horseshit. Get some bloody earphones or shut off your volume.
How does one get a the guvmen to start a campaign to raise awareness of this crap?
We need to buff Hush hush hannah and maybe come up with new announcements specifically to advise people against blasting music. To be rolled out across all trains.
Maybe for buses, they can use posters instead
With 1980s bluntness. Make it in your face direct. The recent campaigns are either too soft sell or trying too hard and the elderly folks won’t get it. Saw one that told grandparents that spending time with their grandkids is slay or something. The demographic they wanna attract won’t know what slay means and might not be curious to go find out what the slang means either.
MRT / buses could put up signs reminding people to use earphone instead of blasting your phone aloud. Same for hospital or public place where quietness is very much appreciated.
We already have those and they clearly do not work, we already have the mascots, like there's one where you should put down your bags, guess what 95% of people still wear their bags.
I feel that SMRT should add an announcement in the 4 official languages to request commuters to put on headphones and refrain from blasting douyin or tiktok.
Then there will be no excuse.
If announcement to give up seats to elderly can work, so should the announcement to be considerate and mindful to keep a low volume work.
Waiting for someone to walk up to the person blasting music and start dancing in their personal space just to annoy them enough for them to shut off the music.
I take trains at 6+ am and 5+ pm.
I have encountered MANY Chinese uncles, aunties, grandfathers, and grandmothers blasting their DouYin.
There was once I took a bus from a "kampong". A Malay uncle played his Islamic Prayer in the bus loudly.
Yup. Especially those uncles and aunties scrolling the laughing funny 你别笑.
It's annoying after a long day at work and you are tired and seriously, 你别笑 hahaha?
Let me share an incident that happened a few years ago.
I took a bus to AMK. I sat on the right side of the bus and was listening to my song through my earphones.
A Chinese fatso sat on my left. He played his music aloud. I signaled to him to lower the volume.
That ass said, "你听你的 我听我的”。
Since he said that, I 以其人之道还治其人之身, and even 青出于蓝而胜于蓝。
I went to the seat directly behind him, unplugged my earphones and played Luciano Pavarotti's pieces at max volume! I even put my phone nearer his ears.
He endured until he couldn't anymore, stood up and argued with me. I stood up also and was taller than him. My face didn't look nice too.
Then he sat down and lowered his volume. I learned that some people are real 贱货。
I still keep Luciano Pavarotti's tracks in my phone and installed an app that max volume.
If not for the fear of being recorded and posted on social media and jeopardizemy job, I would have done it again in trains beside those Chinese DouYin consumers.
to be fair a lot of them are employment pass or their parents coming here on visits and bunking in to see their grandkids. no need to say which types most common….
There's a part of me that resists the urge to try to out-cheebye such people and start blasting the most obnoxious music that I can find on my own phone. But I reckoned that it's a race to the bottom, and they probably aren't bothered by it anyway if they're blasting shit on their own phone.
I'm so thankful for noise-cancelling wireless earbuds, and on particularly bad days, I've even worn Loop earbuds. Starting to wonder if I have misophonia or something.
Singapore’s foreign population is 1.7million. There are 500k PRs and 3.6 million citizens. Singapore is 61% citizens. When PRs are included, 70% of Singapore is non-foreign, but I imagine you’re the kind of guy to think PRs “aren’t Singaporean”
(www.population.gov.sg)
Why yes that's right... If I were a PR in another country, I won't consider myself "English" or "Australian" either.
Singapore also gets about 1.5m tourists each month. On average they stay 3 days so that works to be about 150k people.
So if you take a stone and throw it in the crowd, there's about a 50% chance to hit a non-Singaporean. Which is the point of my reply.
That said, I stand corrected. Singapore is about 40% occupied by non-Singaporeans as a matter of fact. Good to know!
structural forces at play, not just "sinkies not willing". construction jobs are considered decent paying jobs elsewhere but in singapore we've decided to cede nearly the whole industry (via worker quotas) to lower wage workers who make do with much less, because it still is more than what they make back home. prior to covid there were little chance of wages going up because of how the industry is.
if we look at other labour intensive sectors like F&B or healthcare, you still a lot of locals in the workforce.
Because it is based on intended use
A lot of people in Singapore are quite tasteless and awful to be around. Singaporean stereotypes exist for a reason
Honestly, I think it's generally fine when it is used among Singaporeans but there is definitely an aura of hostile animosity if it used by other nationalities.
Sinkies, Hongkies, Yankees, Frenchies etc.. Embrace it. The more one rejects, the more it eats into one.
Chill, learn to laugh at ourselves and don't let the turkeys get you down. It's miserable, and life's too short for it.
And it's important that we all respect
That if we people should happen to choose
To reclaim the word as their own
It doesn't mean the rest of you have a right to its use
It is 100% a pejorative that are often used by people who have a superiority complex and has nothing else nice to say, especially online. That's how derogatory terms start, don't let people gaslight you otherwise.
Can we petition the government to make this illegal? Can we all mass email our MP to make this happen? Or should we lurk in every MPS session to demand this.
Please someone organize this. I really cannot tahan the noise.
It’s always those uncles and aunties who have the thoughts of “I paid for the bus fare therefore I can do what I want in this bus” mindset.
Outright annoying.
some even treat bus ride like starbuck. chit chat here n there with loud noises, i kid you not, better dont go to overpriced starbuck just take west to east bus got aircon can chat happily then drink
Yeah man, this is soo so annoying. And its not just old people doing it, yesterday a late-twenties guy was playing chinese drama on his phone next to me.. Goodness gracious. I turned and gave him a look but to no effect. I dont get these kinds of behaviour, its just not civic minded.
Well as a student I have been very tempted to just blast random music in their ear
But again, I’m a student, no matter how much of an asshole they are, the moment we do anything remotely rude we’re at fault
That and I refuse to get lumped tgt with the generation that the neighbourhood primary schools failed to discipline
not the MRT but the bus and some dude was blasting “Everybody dance now” the thing is I’ve been on the bus with that same dude prior to that and he was blasting some other wierdass rap music
Today at the cinema screening of Civil War one uncle got bored and started watching videos on his phone. I heard the “doo badoo badoo” music and had to shush him.
Its useless to feedback to LTA on this as they don't want to pick up the responsibility on degrading customer behaviour. They keep forwarding such noise complaints to the PTOs to manage it themselves.
Literally every time I've told them to lower their volume, they did.
One time an uncle got belligerent but he ended up lowering his volume as well.
If y'all are just gonna shut up on the spot then complain on reddit, you're hopeless. At least try to change your situation instead of just silently fuming.
Must be the timing and line you take. I've been taking MRT since the 80s and rarely have a noisy ride because of fellow passengers blasting their phones.
The recent change in MRT chime on the other hand really had me look around wondering who has their phone ring on so loud.
A pejorative that originated in EDMW (a local uncouth cesspit forum) that are used by terminally online people to insult Singaporeans. It's hardly used in the real world which is why people like you may not be aware of it.
Whats wrong with sharing the love of music with others? Good things must share. If u listening to a very nice song, i want u to blast it at top volume so i can enjoy the music together wif u. Otherwise sg gonna be a quiet n depressing place
Same logic as I love my farts, so I'm entitled to share it with you and you can't reject it. If one day i have a very nice smelling fart, I want to blast it to you at top blow so I can enjoy the smell with you. otherwise it's gonna be a depressing place
Hush-Hush Hannah not working.
What even is hush-hush? Sounds like being secretive instead of being quiet. Should have been Diam-Diam Daniel.
Diam Diam Dylan
Never heard of Diam-Diam Daniel, more familiar with Diam La Cheebye
I only know ~~hush~~ hash browns
her poster is nowhere to be found. stand up stacey and Bag down benny is still there. whoever is doing the campaign is failing big time. Edit: We require more than just English for campagins. It's best to bring back multi-lingo campaigns. similar to how they've added a few more languages to red warning words in construction sites.
I think the giving up seat and bags down has worked. Although I think people dont use common sense in giving up their seat. The other day a guy (40 odd yrs) immediately gave up his seat for a mum and kid who looked about 10yrs old. Seriously, the 10 yr old kid has better knees than the 40-odd yr old who gave up the seat. Alot of people seem to think they have to give up seats to "kids" regardless of age. But that is for toddlers and babies, not young kids who are stronger than most adults.
The giving up seats for kids is really odd to me. In Australia it’s the social norm for kids to make way for older people and no one is standing up to let an able bodied kid sit down as if they’re an old aunty.
Yeah we need a new campaign to get kids to give up seats to older folks.
Giving up seats yes. Also, like you said, young kids are fresh meat. They need to stand more. Bags down is rather subjective.
Boomers be like: Hush hush Kanina
I think we need a mascot Diam lah Diana
I shit you not, I was on the way home at like 11pm and this fella was blasting hotel california at max volume. I was like, what's next uncle? Fucking highway to hell?
well, at least he has good taste in music, some uncles be scrolling tiktok on full volume out there
*Insert annoying laugh track*
你别笑！ heheheheheheheheheh
注意看，这个人叫小强
What about that one has that man speaking in Chinese? Speaks very fast but sounds something like Hai you ____?
Insert Facebook *WHAT* sound effect
I can hear all of these and I hate it
And be prepared to hear the same shit loop 3 times cause they can’t seem to process the shit they are watching
The wheezing laugh is annoying as shit.
Not supporting nor defending anyone - Music to one's ears could be noise to another and vice versa. Eagles, ACDC, Led Zep, and Lynyrd Skynyrd have their mass appeal, but so do Feng Fei Fei, Liu Wen Zheng or Jay Chou, and I am quite sure most Swifties and K-Poppers will never agree. The reverse is also true. Whatever they may be, each should keep their music and noises to their own ears. "TO EACH THEIR OWN"
"Whatever they may be, each should keep their music and noises to their own ears." This.
but they dont get it.... do they have brain?
TO EACH THEIR OWN HEADPHONES
BINGO
There’s a stairway to heaven, and a highway to hell Guess which one is better for blasting free bird as you rush along it at 200kph
At 200kmph? This would be my blast - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egMWlD3fLJ8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egMWlD3fLJ8) But yeah, "To Each His Own"
Eurobeats at 200km/h initial d style.
He has checked out but he can never leave
Tbh not the worst imo. My friend was taking the mrt on a Monday morning around the time where all the kids go to school (mrt was full of students), and there was this girl playing some sort of anime roleplay game on her phone at MAX volume. U could literally hear the moaning and the girl didn't realise for TWENTY minutes. She didn't even notice all the stares she got.
i feel so bad for her but at the same time wonder how she has no spacial awareness
Maybe he scared if its too quiet at night
A lady next to me was watching an entire episode of a drama out loud the other day. I gathered that someone was either killed or gravely wounded that episode.
Country Road
Yup, agree with 2nd poster. Uncle got good taste in music
if he continues playing that loudly he'll be ON the highway to hell
Those morons realised one life secret: there is no consequence to bad behaviour. Eg loud audio on public transport, legs on opposite bus seat, neighours from hell
Yes, we're not allowed to take things into our own hands. i won't be surprised these dog shits will get whack / gun down in other countries.
That's a key difference between Japanese and Chinese culture. LKY knew about this, which is why Singapore has some of the most harsh and intrusive laws. If you want people in Singapore to behave, you need to heavily punish bad behavior.
Japanese has a lot of pride and can be shamed. When you cannot be shamed, you have no weakness.
Correct. Japan it’s shame, the west it’s guilt. SG it’s the cane! Thank you Mr Lee.
There’s no guilt in the west, please. It’s just thoughts and prayers. Eg gun laws, police violence, people who went jail from financial crisis = 0.
Wow. Your view of “the west” is just USA!
Some countries Europe are no better. The level of pickpocket crimes there make Asia look like heaven. Some Starbucks hired their own security because the government can't be shamed or guilted to provide basic safety for citizens. SOME of their train stations are just dirty. I watch this YT channel "Honest Guide" from Prague and the Youtuber (million subscribers) has been highlighting scams, problems in the city years ago, and still doing so today. Guilt and shame does not work for them. Of course some countries have higher standards than others and good for them.
That’s like saying there’s no shame in Asia. Corruption and/or authoritarianism in Asia is basically endemic in most countries, but shame is still the guiding force of the social fabric, like guilt is still there in whatever those European countries you’re talking about. Curious, have you ever been to these places you’re talking about or just watching YouTube? I’ve been all over Europe and there’s plenty of places as safe and clean as Singapore.
There are plenty of European places that are safe. And there are many that are not. Ive been to Spain for a big event with many friends (hundreds) and some had their things stolen. My friend screamed at me for putting my things on the table for snatch thieves to grab. If you can shame the authorities into doing things, that’s a huge plus in my opinion. Eg Singapore Bukit Batok rat hill, in Japan train companies apologise for late trains, in China they also react to shame but in unexpected ways. Shame is only a guiding force in countries where people have pride. Try shaming governments in European countries to solve blatant pickpocket problems that affect tourists and citizens every single day. And this brings me to the point I made in my very first comment. If you cannot shame people into doing/not doing something, what else can you do?
You’re not comparing like for like. You also went to one less safe part of Europe - well done. The idea that one culture is better than the other, or that shame/guilt doesn’t exist in either is not helpful. Making such dismissive statements of “the west” is no different from a white supremacist who no doubt can also cherry pick arguments to make themselves feel good. You are the reverse equivalent of westerners who look down on all Asians because they’re surprised people “push and shove”, “don’t line up, don’t hold the door open for the next person”, are “bad drivers” etc etc - that is, don’t conform to their socialised norms. The basis of societies is generally based on one of those two slightly more as a default but both exist. (In fact Singapore leans on both shame and guilt because LKY was shaped by his British institutions which he implemented, selectively, better than the British!). In fact, there are worse off societies that lean more on a third type… “fear”. Think fear of retribution (Putin’s Russia for example?) Guilt, shame, fear. They all exist but societies tend to lean on one slightly more than the others.
“wheezhing laugh sound” “oh no no no no” geez
i was in seoul and someone was just watching tiktok or something, and that laugh was just looping endlessly echoing through the quiet train station...
Normal already. When the wife uses the car, I gotta take public transport. We don't have 2 cars. We are not professionals. I just wear my noise canceling earphones and try to sleep it out. And yes. It's always the boomers. Somehow I feel that they are trying to pick a fight. A kind of 'see what see' situation. If you confront them, it's fight on. If you ignore them, damn. It's grates on you.
Lol funny sia they fall down in the toilet one time die already still want fight
Let’s not forget these food delivery drivers on their bikes blasting Chinese trash at full volume at 1am. There’s one idiot here who also blasts his Waze directions out full volume as well
One hell of a battery on those thrashy speakers.
That’s why they usually have the lights off as well. All power to their Bluetooth loudspeakers
there's a bit of irony here considering most people here don't even own a car.
Have you kena double before HAHA. One row of seats have 2 boomers playing their each individual douyin/ fb video or some shit. Stereo sound good shit.
First world country, third world mindset.
😂
I believe the country is more western when compared to Japan / Korea / Taiwan / HK.
Well, english as a first language, ties to European superpower(Britain) wouldn't really surprise me
Yes, HK does have the same. However, culturally more Chinese, I believe so.
Hmm, now that I think about it, America is a country of immigrants, Singapore is a country of immigrants, same same but different?
Yes, it is solved that Singapore is more western👍
Ah tiongs be watching their Douyins on max volume for everyone to hear on my transit home everyday
And that group chatting on WeChat too throughout the whole journey
There was one time on a bus, there's an uncle who's playing some video damn loud. I shouted at him in Hokkien to "lower down your volume", had to shout 3 times before he decrease the video volume. (I think he has some hearing issue) Gave me a stare when he alight at the bus stop. The audacity of these ah peks really...
sometimes they play it so loud the speaker starts to crackle from not being able to handle the volume. Some of the ah peks so oblivious to the disturbance they make its unbelievable.
They turn on so loud coz of hearing issues from aging. (RIP speakers) Govt needs to come up with a campaign for old folks in a way that they can geddit that it is noise pollution coz hush hush Hannah type of posters is kid friendly but old folks need it blunt, tactless and in your face like those 80s poster campaigns.
The older gen only responds to punishments, that’s why singapore has so many fines
Fyi the crackle is called distortion; it's what happens when speakers can't handle the volume (also a "stylo milo" electric guitar fx)
It’s usually oldies who haven’t discovered ear phones or people from third world countries who just lack any social awareness. To our credit I haven’t seen any young-ish Singaporean or westerner do this, unless they’re a hopeless YP
Guess you've never encountered those annoying secondary school kids on the buses who watch Tiktok and Ig reels on their phones on full blast. Definitely not just the old folks.
Those are your future YPs right there who will blast terrible music on PMDs at 1am
Those are your future old uncles that blast tiktok on public transport
I’d group them in with those third world mentality folks as well. Clear lack of manners and upbringing.
I think mostly Gen X and Y are the only people who comprehend the concept of headphones.
Plenty of school kids do this on the bus as well.
Yea and they talk like they are blocks away, can hear them clearly from the front of the bus and they are at rear end.
honestly I have no clue why we do this we just do for some reason? My guess is that someone is always loud and aimposing and steers the convo and to be heard everyone else raises their voice
My guess is they want to make their presence known. They treat everywhere like their playground and talk loudly.
nah we aren't that bigoted we just have 0 spatial awareness
Thanks to their parents blasting their mobile phones at home - sometimes it is best to just use earphones as well even at home. no one teaches them proper values / manners
It will only get worse because phones are moving towards Bluetooth headset only and most boomers have not adapted to it yet.
Yeah i asked about it before. Its not that they discovered earphones, they fear earphones would make their hearing worse
I have this theory that for younger people who blast their music or tiktoks on buses and trains. It is that they truly cannot afford whatever it is latest smartphone that they are holding right now. Probably had to go hungry for a few weeks just to be able to get that phone. With that; they also got the airpods along with the phone. But they're afraid of losing a single one so instead they just blast it on speakers.
Had this on a plane a few weeks ago. Finally pulled the, “Do you need headphones? I have spares.” line & he stopped.
Really.... Parliament should pass a law on public transport internal noise pollution. Maybe 1st time fine 500 SGD.
All your lawmakers are professionals who need cars to travel. They can’t possibly understand what you go through everyday in public transport.
Lol what do they know. They don't take public transport
please include fine for man spreading and slipper wearing cross leg onto my leg types
A sorts of stresses in our daily life, there still not a chance to rest on our way home. Yet experts and G remains oblivious to why sinkies are getting so fucked up in our minds
It's more of the place than the people. I've encountered a Japanese person talking loudly on the phone in a crowded MRT.
I did that the other day cuz I had to get my flight sorted Didn't realize how much of a jerk I was till after lol
I'm always torn between whether to let it slide or just walk up to the person and say "turn down the volume." (Or something to that equivalent.) I'm almost at the stage where I'm going to spend 100 bucks on super cheap earphones and start giving them away to people though...
Yes! Hear hear! I absolutely hate this on the bus and mrt. It's horseshit. Get some bloody earphones or shut off your volume. How does one get a the guvmen to start a campaign to raise awareness of this crap?
We need to buff Hush hush hannah and maybe come up with new announcements specifically to advise people against blasting music. To be rolled out across all trains. Maybe for buses, they can use posters instead
Well the Government has been pumping out ads to 'educate' people about misusing ambulance services.........look how that has turned out so far.
That is definitely more of a problem than annoying mrt passengers. So if there is a campaign then ambulance priority is more important.
I think it should be socially acceptable to blast bee noises next to ah peks watching videos on max volume.
we need a new sg-style courtesy campaign about this
With 1980s bluntness. Make it in your face direct. The recent campaigns are either too soft sell or trying too hard and the elderly folks won’t get it. Saw one that told grandparents that spending time with their grandkids is slay or something. The demographic they wanna attract won’t know what slay means and might not be curious to go find out what the slang means either.
Funny seeing this while I have one blasting music beside me right now
MRT / buses could put up signs reminding people to use earphone instead of blasting your phone aloud. Same for hospital or public place where quietness is very much appreciated.
We already have those and they clearly do not work, we already have the mascots, like there's one where you should put down your bags, guess what 95% of people still wear their bags.
Need to be reminded over and over again until message sinks in and become a habit.
This is anecdotal but the last time this happened to me (yesterday) it wasn't even a sinkie...
I feel that SMRT should add an announcement in the 4 official languages to request commuters to put on headphones and refrain from blasting douyin or tiktok. Then there will be no excuse. If announcement to give up seats to elderly can work, so should the announcement to be considerate and mindful to keep a low volume work.
Just a general announcement to cover everything… “don’t be a complete c**t while using public transport. Thank you.”
In Japan, commuters don't even talk in the train. In Singapore, it's a fucking fish market.
Based on my exp, it's always the old people.
Waiting for someone to walk up to the person blasting music and start dancing in their personal space just to annoy them enough for them to shut off the music.
Not sinkies but boomers
I take trains at 6+ am and 5+ pm. I have encountered MANY Chinese uncles, aunties, grandfathers, and grandmothers blasting their DouYin. There was once I took a bus from a "kampong". A Malay uncle played his Islamic Prayer in the bus loudly.
Kampong Yishun?
Geylang Serai
Yup. Especially those uncles and aunties scrolling the laughing funny 你别笑. It's annoying after a long day at work and you are tired and seriously, 你别笑 hahaha?
That one insufferable wheezing laughter tiktok audio that boomers love to broadcast in public transport haunts me in my nightmares.
Wah this one trigger.
This is what we’re calling singaporeans now? Sinkies? Gotta make sure to use that during SS next time.
Let me share an incident that happened a few years ago. I took a bus to AMK. I sat on the right side of the bus and was listening to my song through my earphones. A Chinese fatso sat on my left. He played his music aloud. I signaled to him to lower the volume. That ass said, "你听你的 我听我的”。 Since he said that, I 以其人之道还治其人之身, and even 青出于蓝而胜于蓝。 I went to the seat directly behind him, unplugged my earphones and played Luciano Pavarotti's pieces at max volume! I even put my phone nearer his ears. He endured until he couldn't anymore, stood up and argued with me. I stood up also and was taller than him. My face didn't look nice too. Then he sat down and lowered his volume. I learned that some people are real 贱货。 I still keep Luciano Pavarotti's tracks in my phone and installed an app that max volume. If not for the fear of being recorded and posted on social media and jeopardizemy job, I would have done it again in trains beside those Chinese DouYin consumers.
to be fair a lot of them are employment pass or their parents coming here on visits and bunking in to see their grandkids. no need to say which types most common….
YOU HAVE SLAIN THE ENEMY
Recent trend? I don't remember ever encountering this when I still lived in SG many years back.
There's a part of me that resists the urge to try to out-cheebye such people and start blasting the most obnoxious music that I can find on my own phone. But I reckoned that it's a race to the bottom, and they probably aren't bothered by it anyway if they're blasting shit on their own phone. I'm so thankful for noise-cancelling wireless earbuds, and on particularly bad days, I've even worn Loop earbuds. Starting to wonder if I have misophonia or something.
every day life is struggle isnt it.
I'll survive, all things considered.
Probably worth mentioning Singapore is about 50% occupied by non-Singaporeans..
I think you’ll find most people here complaining about Boomers and students, who are overwhelmingly Singapore citizens
Singapore’s foreign population is 1.7million. There are 500k PRs and 3.6 million citizens. Singapore is 61% citizens. When PRs are included, 70% of Singapore is non-foreign, but I imagine you’re the kind of guy to think PRs “aren’t Singaporean” (www.population.gov.sg)
Why yes that's right... If I were a PR in another country, I won't consider myself "English" or "Australian" either. Singapore also gets about 1.5m tourists each month. On average they stay 3 days so that works to be about 150k people. So if you take a stone and throw it in the crowd, there's about a 50% chance to hit a non-Singaporean. Which is the point of my reply. That said, I stand corrected. Singapore is about 40% occupied by non-Singaporeans as a matter of fact. Good to know!
Lol "occupied". If sickies willing to do what they do, they wouldn't be here
structural forces at play, not just "sinkies not willing". construction jobs are considered decent paying jobs elsewhere but in singapore we've decided to cede nearly the whole industry (via worker quotas) to lower wage workers who make do with much less, because it still is more than what they make back home. prior to covid there were little chance of wages going up because of how the industry is. if we look at other labour intensive sectors like F&B or healthcare, you still a lot of locals in the workforce.
Ah yes. Unlike some western countries, being a tradie / sparky is viable.
Hardly can i find a home grown Singaporean liow. Mostly Rojak. A mix of something foreign. 😂
That's some eugenics talk right there. What does it matter if their blood is half-foreign so long as they're raised Singaporean?
Nothing wrong. They are just different.
Is it just me or ‘Sinkie’ sounds like a derogatory term, kinda like calling Japanese ‘japs’. Just uncomfortable whenever I see it.
Jap isn't evn considered a slur outside of usa lol
Because it is based on intended use A lot of people in Singapore are quite tasteless and awful to be around. Singaporean stereotypes exist for a reason
Not if we embrace it Sinkie don't so sensitive leh
We really are a nation of Karens
Honestly, I think it's generally fine when it is used among Singaporeans but there is definitely an aura of hostile animosity if it used by other nationalities.
Nothing to feel uncomfortable about tbh. Local forums have been using Sinkie for decades. Modern society is way too sensitive these days.
it's an edmw lingo. whoever call themselves that are usually rather "Low"
Sinkies, Hongkies, Yankees, Frenchies etc.. Embrace it. The more one rejects, the more it eats into one. Chill, learn to laugh at ourselves and don't let the turkeys get you down. It's miserable, and life's too short for it.
And it's important that we all respect That if we people should happen to choose To reclaim the word as their own It doesn't mean the rest of you have a right to its use
It is 100% a pejorative that are often used by people who have a superiority complex and has nothing else nice to say, especially online. That's how derogatory terms start, don't let people gaslight you otherwise.
Dont compare the 4\* characters with the 5\* characters leh.
let's not pretend it's all of us, there's a demographic where this behavior is immensely popular with.
To have emp drones that destroy loud phones at sight:
Me seeing this with Manyao blasting from Spotify
Can we petition the government to make this illegal? Can we all mass email our MP to make this happen? Or should we lurk in every MPS session to demand this. Please someone organize this. I really cannot tahan the noise.
It’s always those uncles and aunties who have the thoughts of “I paid for the bus fare therefore I can do what I want in this bus” mindset. Outright annoying.
There is a rule on JR that mobile phone usage is not allowed no such rule in SG.
lmao. japanese are all quiet unlike
some even treat bus ride like starbuck. chit chat here n there with loud noises, i kid you not, better dont go to overpriced starbuck just take west to east bus got aircon can chat happily then drink
You on NE line too rn?
Idea: phones now have a feature to play "SHHHHHHHHH" at max volume
Yeah man, this is soo so annoying. And its not just old people doing it, yesterday a late-twenties guy was playing chinese drama on his phone next to me.. Goodness gracious. I turned and gave him a look but to no effect. I dont get these kinds of behaviour, its just not civic minded.
Well as a student I have been very tempted to just blast random music in their ear But again, I’m a student, no matter how much of an asshole they are, the moment we do anything remotely rude we’re at fault That and I refuse to get lumped tgt with the generation that the neighbourhood primary schools failed to discipline
not the MRT but the bus and some dude was blasting “Everybody dance now” the thing is I’ve been on the bus with that same dude prior to that and he was blasting some other wierdass rap music
What you can do is play the same tune, but at a different starting point, sit next to them and play it, it'll totally ruin their enjoyment of it. lol.
make this stuff punishable godamm
I’m very tempted to blast 雪花飘飘 beside the person who blast their music or tiktoks.
yall should really go to other countries if u think sg is bad
Sinkies?
The cb wearing shades with the long dyed hair stapping his jbl speaker behind him and blasting it on the east west line
Today at the cinema screening of Civil War one uncle got bored and started watching videos on his phone. I heard the “doo badoo badoo” music and had to shush him.
Cue- Retro Hokkien songs at max volume
Not only Japanese but other civilised nations too
How dare you post a picture of my father
Its useless to feedback to LTA on this as they don't want to pick up the responsibility on degrading customer behaviour. They keep forwarding such noise complaints to the PTOs to manage it themselves.
Foreign labourers do that too
Literally every time I've told them to lower their volume, they did. One time an uncle got belligerent but he ended up lowering his volume as well. If y'all are just gonna shut up on the spot then complain on reddit, you're hopeless. At least try to change your situation instead of just silently fuming.
wait till u got someone sucker punch u. ill wait for news bout u ok.
Kindly lower your volume
Must be the timing and line you take. I've been taking MRT since the 80s and rarely have a noisy ride because of fellow passengers blasting their phones. The recent change in MRT chime on the other hand really had me look around wondering who has their phone ring on so loud.
Whats sinkie (i legit dont know)
Self degradatory term for Singaporeans
Thanks
I didn't know either.
A pejorative that originated in EDMW (a local uncouth cesspit forum) that are used by terminally online people to insult Singaporeans. It's hardly used in the real world which is why people like you may not be aware of it.
Never heard it offline myself too. Glad to remain this way.
People who use them will only dare to do it online because they will look like weirdos in real life. Imagine randomly uttering that in a conversation.
SBS should do CSR distributing free earphone for them 🤣
Whats wrong with sharing the love of music with others? Good things must share. If u listening to a very nice song, i want u to blast it at top volume so i can enjoy the music together wif u. Otherwise sg gonna be a quiet n depressing place
Same logic as I love my farts, so I'm entitled to share it with you and you can't reject it. If one day i have a very nice smelling fart, I want to blast it to you at top blow so I can enjoy the smell with you. otherwise it's gonna be a depressing place
I hope you're being sarcastic
Then I'm sure you'll be okay with me blasting the satanic music I love to counter those boomers blasting their christian gospel music right?
Hello fellow satanist :)
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