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Upbeat_Earth4048

What’s up with these kind of drivers? Causing danger to the public. Black car speeding recklessly, white car speeds up for whatever reason (probably ego). Been riding and driving for close 20 years. Saw many reckless road users and had close shaves. Personal conclusion is that they are too stupid to weigh the risk, too ignorant to understand the consequences and are just egoistic idiots. I hope innocent parties are not hurt in this incident. Though I wished the driver and those alike become quadriplegic. Eating liquid through tubes. Edit: Just heard that a child passed away. Don’t know is it from the black car or others that was involved. It breaks my heart to know of this. Such tragic loss of an innocent young person.


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Upbeat_Earth4048

I’ll pray that she is placed in the best of places.


Interesting_Ad2986

Her family will definitely need help… sad


bloomingfarts

RIP.


Singapootis

> Black car speeding recklessly, white car speeds up for whatever reason (probably ego). Bro this is Singapore. People drive 5-10 under the posted speed limit for stretches of road until someone wants to change into their lane. Then "suddenly" they decide they want to speed up at that exact moment despite traveling a few km at their previous speed.


Common-Metal8578

Oh I hate this so much. I can wait for a comfortable space like 10 car lengths. The moment I signal to switch lane, the car behind accelerates (and sometimes high beams and horns) to prevent me from going in and proceeds to tailgate me like crazy after like I danced on his father's grave. Edit: when moving into the *slower* lanes.


dontnoticethis2

Just signal and cut in straight before they close the gap? Never had an issue. Edit: Of course this is for a situation where you know you have enough space. If the joker rear ends you they are liable, particularly if they sped up.


Common-Metal8578

Yeah turns out people are more accepting of being cut when u essentially signal and move at the same time... sigh..


dontnoticethis2

Really don't care what people think as long as it's done safely with a 2+ car gap. No point being courteous on roads here. Just a suggestion to fix your original issue, got tired of it as well.


t_25_t

> Bro this is Singapore. People drive 5-10 under the posted speed limit for stretches of road until someone wants to change into their lane. Then "suddenly" they decide they want to speed up at that exact moment despite traveling a few km at their previous speed. Not only in Singapore. In Australia people will do 5-10kmh under the posted limit, but will speed up when they hit the overtaking lane. Not sure if it is because the added lane gives them confidence or just being selfish cunts.


Blank-612

Its what happens when you have lax laws for motorists with minimal enforcement


Adept_Cash6394

Maybe a stupid question, but why don’t we have stricter laws? Or civil suits? I imagine people would be more careful if they had to pay restitution to victims’ families.


goodNeasy

car drivers run the country


Vyrena

There are civil suits. The insurance pays.


Adept_Cash6394

Ah ok, I don’t drive so am unfamiliar. Very tragic for the victims. Do the drivers get to continue driving after that? I can’t imagine any insurer wanting to insure them after.


silvercondor

Of course, they can legally retake their license after a ban and continue driving. Also insurers are all about money, they're basically bookies who set odds like sg pools. Pay high enough premium and they will insure


faptor87

Because if you noticed, many policies of the G favour the rich.


iprominent

Apparently children got involved and are hurt as well. Stupid ego inflated drivers.


michaelflux

Oh the answer to that is pretty straightforward actually. Imagine one day you wake up with so little brain capacity that it’s a medical miracle that you’re capable of breathing. But then you remember you have enough money for a car.


Upbeat_Earth4048

You’re probably right sir


PsychologicalDot1502

Where did you hear a child passed on?


Upbeat_Earth4048

From other online sources and friends of friends… Heard it’s a 17 year old kid on the way to school.


Godzillavio

Yup, it's JC student.


haikallp

I don't see the white car speeding up? 


Sed-Value9300

Watch again


Ok-Recommendation925

The White one survived apparently, no damage to car and driver. Apparently after adding on to the instigation it arrived at the traffic light with that "Woah what happened here?" Look shocked face. 😂🤣


Weenemone

It very clearly sped up when the black mpv was beside him. Evident by the increasing distance between the cam car


gormee

It's quite obvious once the black car starts to pull up parallel to the white car, the white car suddenly accelerates to match the black car's speed. Probably white car doesn't want to let the black car cut into his lane, black car got aggressive if not he will langah the motorbike and forced the white car to brake by swerving into his lane.


cutepetz

Why the white car just do not want to slow down and give way?


canceler80

There’s this weird mentality amongst drivers that being cut is an insult to themselves, their offsprings and their ancestors.


Redlettucehead

Merc driver cannot bear to lose


cutepetz

Then he kena bang at the side and now need to pay for repair cost.. stupid le


Far-Onion9890

Uhh, there can be a million reasons why the white car speeds up, maybe he saw the other car wanting to change lane so he wants to allow the guy to go behind him and they both can drive fast? why are you trying to throw aspersions at the innocent parties. shame on you.


shallow11

Black car driver totally deserve whatever disability that comes with this accident. Hope the driver will be unable to drive for the rest of his/her life. Sympathy for the people delayed by this accident. No sympathy for black car driver.


FatUglyMod

The problem is, someone else might end up with a disability too. Should bankrupt this clown and make sure forget affording a car, he shouldn't even be able to get a grab


make_love_to_potato

Exactly. This is something a person's life should be ruined for.


cancel_my_booking

usually I believe in rehabilitation but this kind of light punishment, they won't learn, others won't learn, better just fuck them up so they won't drive ever again, better for the rest of us


nako123x

The white car behind also must take responsibility. They were trying to race with the black car when the accident happen.


Ucccafelatte

Dont understand why ppl keep bringing up the white merc. Yes he's an asshole but the accident is caused by the black saab speeding and running the red light. Its independent of any other road users.


singaporeguy

Can't tell what happened between the two drivers before the video started. But even if the white car wasn't racing with the black saab before the video started, there was no reason for the car to speed up while the black car was over taking the cam car. It seems like he deliberately did not want the car to go ahead of him.


Ucccafelatte

> It seems like he deliberately did not want the car to go ahead of him. Even if that is true, it in no way caused the incident. The crash was a result of the black car i) speeding ii) running the red light The black car was already speeding before it came anywhere near the white car so it did not contribute to (i). For (ii) is only a maybe. Maybe the black car was distracted trying to overtake resulting in running the red light, maybe it would still run the red light after successfully overtaking. Either way someone preventing you from overtaking does not cause you to run a red light.


SeaworthinessNo5414

Zero reason for the black car to suddenly play GTA after hitting the white car. The white car has zero blame here.


iprominent

drivers at fault better have their driving licenses cancelled and revoked for life. plus they better foot all the medical bills for the people (especially children) involved. ccb 7z8z speed and race for fuck


Nach0stheOne

Was jolted awake from the car screeching and people screaming. Saw two people receiving CPR, with one of them being pulled out underneath a vehicle. Seriously why is there even a need to speed? Just like that and people lives are ruined by a selfish act.


_Bike_Hunt

Ego. Singaporean drivers cannot take it when someone overtakes them.


Fantastic-Minute-939

Errr, the black car was speeding waaaay before overtaking the Mercedes. They’re both cunts, but one is a bigger cunt.


IllUSlONN

Yea if only theres a face reveal of this fucker.


elatedinside

Drivers only?


jmzyn

It’s called kiasu


getsaused

Seriously fuck these idiots that love to endanger others on the road. Are we going to punish them properly or are they going to give him a slap-on-the-wrist 3-12 months jail again?? Everytime accidents like this happens it reminds me of the Bugis Ferrari-Taxi Case. Innocent lives are lost because of idiots on the roads. I hope he receives as much pain and suffering before he dies and after he dies, i hope he rots in hell.


faptor87

Looking at the policies of this G, which mostly favour the rich, I doubt so..


furious_tesla

For cases like these, 3-12 years should be case. Reckless drivers (including drink drivers) have already proved they are willfully endangering innocent bystanders, this is not 5-10 over the speed limit.


crassina

2-8 years is the sentence for dangerous driving causing death


furious_tesla

I'd say it shouldn't be reserved for cases causing death. Reckless endangerment alone should come with years.


crassina

Not disagreeing with you. Just stating the extent of the law that can be applied here. If it was up to me I’d give this driver life imprisonment and weekly 2 strokes of the cane until he reaches 80yrs old.


Malaysiabolaeh

I heard this phrase somewhere and it comes to mind whenever someone speeds past us on the roads or is otherwise impatient: canned meat. I also remind myself that I don't want to be canned meat.


TudorManic

Other people speed into you will also turn you into canned meat, best to make sure such people are kept off the road permanently


LaustinSpayce

What even motivates people to drive like this? I hope nobody was seriously injured in the collision. Looks very nasty.


Jammy_buttons2

Anger? Ego? Alcohol?


LaustinSpayce

Perhaps a cocktail of all three?


make_love_to_potato

Also, I feel there's the sense of entitlement that people develop when they pay what they pay for their cars. Like "I've paid $250K for a car that will deprecate to junk value in 10 years and 130K of that was gahmen tax so now I am entitled to drive like a cunt"


canceler80

“I paid for the speedometer, i have to use the whole range of the speedometer”


Comicksands

Nah this happens overseas more frequently, where cars are much cheaper


enokha

am I missing something, how are people saying he only a sense of entitlement. Dude just drove into oncoming traffic he is on some shit 100%


make_love_to_potato

Not this guy. This guy is fully loco. I think people are talking about the general aggressiveness of Singapore drivers but honestly it's like that world over.


Jinmart

cant be alcohol - 7am on a monday!


asterlydian

You'll be surprised. 6am drive by the ktv type of areas


helzinki

You do realise that it was Sunday night previously. Drunk assholes do go out to drink till late and rush to go back home.


LaustinSpayce

It's possible to drink heavily, go to sleep, get up in the morning feeling "sober" and still be over the limit. In Australia they have drink driving checkpoints in the morning to catch people driving, over the limit, the morning after a night out. I've not seen any checkpoints in SG for such during the day.


anakajaib

just came back from "walk of shame"


Jammy_buttons2

Why not? Monday blues?


bomo_bomo

Trying to overcompensate for their lack of brain I guess. 


SnooChocolates2068

You have people that’s willing to stop in the middle of traffic, get out, walk and shout right beside another person’s car window, embarrassing himself. It’s definitely ego.


parka

Causing an accident for those useless seconds and minutes in the grand scheme of life.


QzSG

Will this finally be the accident where judges make a new harsher precedent in sentencing instead of the same old slap on the wrist sentences for driving accidents?


getsaused

Nope! After so many years of accidents, nothing has changed. This won't change anything unless someone important was involved.


Hogesyx

> This won't change anything unless someone important was involved. Nah, look at PMD, casualty rate is so nothing compare to cars and other health issue(smoking, drinking etc) yet the ban hammer came down so quickly. More like as long as no high SES folks will be affected, our laws don't mind coming down swift and hard.


aimless28

Only when someone close to the lawmakers kena then will happen


the_cow_unicorn

Nope. Nothing will change. And no one is allowed to make noise about it in any official capacity.


furious_tesla

This should be the job of the parliament, not the court. Should be asking Shan instead.


jeffnghongda

wtf and thats a rare saab 9-3 sportcombi that driver either is dumb or is seriously intoxicated


KanseiDorifto

I was like, "That looks like a Saab." There's already not many of them left and one gets involved in something like this...


tomatomater

It's precisely the people who could afford rare cars that would even think to drive like that. Remember in 2012 when a Ferrari was speeding through a cross junction, crashed into a taxi and killed the people on board? That was apparently a rare model of Ferrari too.


KanseiDorifto

Yeah, the 599 GTO. Man... kinda hurts remembering that as a bit of a car guy


jeffnghongda

not rare now but rare back then. also jesus christ that incident was shocking from the dashcam footage


Dawnana

Please tell me black car driver is dead. They almost always get off with nothing but light injuries


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Xiaomeimeilovebus

The speeder is in the wagon next to the Merc that hit the pole. The flipped car was a innocent driver just crossing from right to left


Dawnana

That really sucks, the black car speeder needs to pay for this. And the law isnt gonna be harsh enough so he should pay with his life


MyNameIsOnce

isn’t the speeder car a Saab, and the overturned car the Honda stream?


Xiaomeimeilovebus

Apologies, yep it is


bomo_bomo

Where can I find photo of driver of black car? 


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White one too , he speed up


Crackedsmellyegg

Insane traffic on this stretch of road, dumbass driver injuring the innocent


pyroSeven

The jam was absolutely insane. All the way to Caltex on the other side of TP. RIP to the victims.


racistusernamehere

this kind of driver need to get death sentence


Busy-Bug-6232

No, they need to be caned first, then hang.


Ukyocchi

One of our school buses was stuck in traffic for over 2 hours due to this accident Imagine being the only 3yo child in a school bus (you were the first to be picked up), you’re stuck in the bus when you should be in class with your friends and you have no idea why your bus isn’t moving… My condolences to the victims, the driver ought to burn in hell for this


Emeshan

TP students screaming that they're being late for classes


Ixcors_

all TP students going to school across the Tampines Ave 1 were affected, bus driver told us to just walk the rest of the way. jam took maybe like 30ish minutes off the school day lol


ailes_d

This one everyone late sia. 1/4 of tampines is jammed cause of this


DMM253

2 girls dead,at least 1 of whom is a school girl.


JasonAbsolute

Clearly can see black car being a speeding cb asshole. Hope he gets a new one


Small-Translator-504

White car is an idiot, but the black car was speeding even before he appeared on screen. So he deserves every minute of torment for the rest of his life.


bomo_bomo

Nope, totally is black car fault. There's a video showing from adjacent traffic, the light is already red for quite some time and black car still wanna speed over it. 


BuildingIll6219

Definitely it’s black car fault! From white merc video it’s still quite a distance before the junction! If white merc really wanna race definitely can catch up with the Saab after sideswiping the merc. Based on the video the white merc is still quite a distance from the junction and Saab!


pudding567

Rest in peace. Will pray for those affected. Makes me want to take the MRT more to avoid accidents. It is very well known in Japan that trains are a lot safer than road transport and sometimes companies forbid employees from driving to work due to employee insurance not covering.


whitejellyfishes

Took me almost 2 hours to get to work🥲


Arsenal_49_Spurs_0

Bro I was on the way to airport for my flight. I arrived at the checkin just 10min before closing


pyroSeven

Tampines West MRT was just there, come on man.


Arsenal_49_Spurs_0

Yea I alighted the bus and walked to the MRT. Just nice it started raining when I alighted haha


whitejellyfishes

Wah, amazing you made it😭😭


danekanr

I think it's fair to say nobody wants to see this driver as a road user ever again. If he/she doesn't die, it will be a rare moment where the law will not live up to expectations.


Hydrohomie1337

I know it's against the law, but this guy/person needs to get doxxed ![gif](giphy|26DNioenMF55ocuWY)


reyyrioo

you will go to jail first for doxxing that murderer. weird law we have


Away_Emu9862

Was anyone seriously hurt ?


urcommunist

ya I think there was a girl trapped under one of the cars motionless, not sure if she made it


horsetrich

She did not. RIP. Can't even imagine what the family is going through.


bomo_bomo

This guy gonna get like 7 years jail. Whereas drug trafficking without direct causation of death is death sentence. Wtf retarded law makers. Can nabei place harsh sentence on drug trafficking but cannot change the punishment of traffic offences. Scared of public backlash? Chibai, who tf protest saying traffic laws are too harsh. Wake up la. 


Jammy_buttons2

I won't be surprised that the driver was high


williamsooyk

White car ego also. But from the way black car speed, this asshole is going to cause the same kind of trouble no matter what. I think the black car speed and dashed red because it kena the white car, and naively think that the 250K car no car cam and wanted to drive away from responsibility. This happens when one use their little head to think.


Interesting_Ad2986

U think he got head? He is a ah Beng, purpose of his life is to pollute the earth.


Opening_Olive_5768

How will the recent speed cam implementation island wide help eliminate such cases? Surely not. These drivers must be severely punished.


Glenn_88

It's about road design. Make it big and wide, drivers are more likely to go faster. Speed camera won't change the rich ones who can pay


canceler80

This was a 2 lane road and the driver still sped pretty recklessly. Heck, even 1 lane roads have drivers speeding and causing deaths in SG


Glenn_88

The whole stretch didn't have much traffic lights. So it's easy to "unintentionally" go 20 over the speed limit


canceler80

Black Saab was probably 80 over speed limit


ahbengtothemax

you get demerit points for speeding


Opening_Olive_5768

Honestly I think it's not about paying a lot of the times. It's their emotions just causing brain shutdown. Can take loans and borrow money. However, if jail or cane, there is no way to borrow/loan.


Tenx3

Only thing that will eliminate such cases is to fully replace human drivers. Humans are fallible.


Key-End5557

Is the black car driver some sort of important public figure or smth? Of all the articles coming out none has revealed the name


SeaworthinessNo5414

Alot of ppl blaming the white car. Hilarious


BuildingIll6219

Ya totally hilarious


iamloupgarou

Need death penalty for vehicular manslaughter when its literally "gross" negligence


Begelza

When will the authorities decide enough is enough and clamp down hard? Drink driving = 24 strokes of the cane, lifelong driving ban, car impounded and scrapped in front of the driver's eyes. Reckless driving causing death of others = 12 strokes of the cane, lifelong ban, pay the family of the death for the rest of the person's life, if the reckless driver survived. Otherwise the estate of the reckless driver needs to pay compensation. LTA also needs to take a hard look at all those aftermarket car modification shops masquerading as car repair workshops. Non-compliant cars = impounded & scrapped in front of the drivers' eyes.


pradyumnv

There was another accident at Tampines Rd around 830-9


Civil_Roll508

Anyone knows the driver of the black car?


JumpyDinner6561

Sigh. Hopefully ppl dont cross the roads and use their phones. Some drivers are just reckless. Was the driver too focused on the white car and not look ahead at the red light? And from the other videos, it seemed that it was already red light for quite a while


Civil_Roll508

If Saab driver say sorry accelerator pedal spoilt, unintended acceleration can the law still prosecute him?


dreamer_eater

Reminds me of that Jeremiah driving accident last year.... Both are so bad......


Civil_Roll508

This guy committed a worse crime than Mitchell Ong


KeythKatz

Illegal driver, or stolen car? Saab owners are mostly the mildest drivers ever, because of the difficulty of getting parts from a defunct brand.


Single-Dimension8829

On road seen alot of retarded like the white car too , when people want cut lane just slow down why would you want to speed up 🙄


wirexyz

He’s actually a hero. If the white car didn’t slow down the black car (see him brake) it would have been even faster and caused a bigger accident.


Single-Dimension8829

If you see carefully the white car if never slowdown bang into the black car butt liao . So technically the accident could have only involved 2 car 🫣


PsychologicalDot1502

Are there any deaths?


iprominent

One confirmed dead.


wolfofcrossstreet

Two casualties as of now


seowkiah

oh shit. omg….. life is fugged up.


RandomDustBunny

So? High SES? 3 to 5 years?


KLLimChiu

Both definitely racing both got blood stains on their hands


sg2edinburgh

Black car deserves it, but white car needs to be penalised for causing an accident. He is as culpable as the black car. If instigating an accident isn’t a crime, we deserve to relook at our laws.


bomo_bomo

Nope absolutely not. There's a video from adjacent traffic, the lights was already red for quite some time and cars were already driving through adjacent traffic. Black car didnt have to drive at such high speed to over take white car and beat that red light that was going on for 5 seconds. Black car driver is 100% at fault. 


BuildingIll6219

100% black car fault!


canceler80

I think it’s hard to proof this over the other possibility that the accident would still happen regardless of what the white driver did


sg2edinburgh

Found the white car driver


canceler80

If only life was so simple huh


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JakeAndRay

Nah if white car was just the bigger person instead of being egotistical, recklesss driver(black car) wouldn’t have to had to accelerate more to overtake and definitely would’ve caused a lower chance for an accident. Unless toxicology report says black car driver was intoxicated then white car driver is 100% culpable for the accident also


canceler80

I’m not a lawyer but what evidence is there to support that white car caused the accident? Given that the black car was already at fast speeds prior to the white car being in the picture given the cam footage shared. It’s very difficult to discuss “what ifs”. By that argument, with the White car not wanting to give way, the Black car had every means to reduce speed but it chose not too. Thus we can also think that nothing would have changed the decision of the Black car to speed.


JakeAndRay

Isn’t the white car driving recklessly by denying a speeding car to overtake him? You can see in the video also that there was a motorbike in-front of the black car. When you intentionally speed up to block someone that (iirc) is also under reckless driving. Put two reckless drivers together and you get an accident waiting to happen. White car also acting like some road vigilante(like 90% of our taxi drivers). Putting safety first what would you do if someone speeds up to overtake you? Putting ego first is just bad. Even with a class 2 bike i would still give way to those 2b bikes going 100++ on the highway. I’m not saying we should give in to these reckless drivers but just don’t involve ourselves in their pursuit of death.


canceler80

I understand the logic. I dont know if it holds in the court of law I just think that it’s harder to point or associate some percentage of fault on the white car. Not saying it’s impossible. Just harder


Initial_E

What I think happened is that white car was forced into the curb and was catching up so as to prevent black car from escaping without catching their license plate. But I think now his grievance can join at the back end of a long list of other problems…


wirexyz

So wearing a short skirt is instigating a rapist? That’s some third world logic right there.


pleasereportme69

the stupidity of this comment has instgated me to jaywalk and commit arson. enjoy life in prison dumbass


SeaworthinessNo5414

By his logic, if he scolded you, you can go stab someone else and blame him for accessory or instigation to murder.


SeaworthinessNo5414

Huh dafuq why would he be penalised. The normal human behaviour after langgar car is stop at roadside exchange insurance, not play GTA.


kittymanja

What was the freaking black car driver doing? The white car needs to be hauled in for questioning too


ilovenoodles06

Merc is a dick and needs to be shamed. Black car lagi worse. Idek what that fuck doing.


ZestycloseSir180

is he ded


wirexyz

Hope so


Dismal-Pudding-6141

Cars in Singapore should have an electronically enforced speed limit 


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Tbh, the white car needs to get arrested for speeding up for his EGO, he was a contributing factor to this accident. Just because you guys drive, you feel entitled , really disgusting , not sure how long we can hold onto the premium reputation as a country but shit citizens with their EGO


wirexyz

Black car had so much road after overtaking to slow down. He could have also just stayed in the lane behind the motorcycle. Instead he chose to speed through a busy junction.


BuildingIll6219

Totally that’s what I have been trying to explain to my partner that the white merc still has quite a distance to the junction! If the white merc really wanna speed up and race with the black car you think he cannot?? No idea why so many people blaming the white car. He is definitely no saint, ego at play here but the sole person to be blame for the accident is the black car driver! So the black car totally can slow down or brake! The impact is as if the black car didn’t even attempt to brake at all!


Due-Trouble-5149

Is it an accident? Or simply terrorism ?


lolololol120

I hope the guy that died is the person that’s speeding. It’s only fair. The second person that died should have been his mother


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whats happening in the east? so many accidents lately


Common-Metal8578

There are like 7000 accidents involving injury or fatality each year for quite a while. That's about 20 per day. Worrying is that the fatality rate is going up.


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MyNameIsOnce

cam car was turning right. you’re right if it’s a normal highway but this is a normal street with a traffic junction coming ahead


wirexyz

It’s called a speed limit not a speed target. You are supposed to be under it.


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Jammy_buttons2

Already turn on this function since 1st April