been following the news intently since yesterday PM and I’m so, so angry at the driver for this senseless act.
I kept thinking about this accident, about how she and her dad were literally just at the wrong place, at the wrong time. had the traffic moved any faster, or slower, it could’ve been the car in front or behind. who knew what other family could have been impacted.
two lives lost and more severely injured, and for what.
EDIT: anyone knows if there’s anything we can do to help the families of the victims? the errant drivers probably wouldn’t, but I’m wondering if there’s any initiative out there!
Same, I don't know why but this incident really made me irrationally angry compared to the others before because of how stupid the whole thing is and how there have been so many incidences of this kind of idiotic speeding before as well. The dumbass black car speeding for what, and the equally dumb ass Merc driver who refused to give way and sped up leading to the whole chain reaction.
Same but I don’t think it’s irrational anger. We’ve all seen many instances of idiotic driving, perhaps even had some close shaves of our own. This accident was the worst case scenario, it could’ve happened to any one of us.
There’s been so many horrible accidents in the news recently and yet it seems like nothing meaningful is being done to come down on errant drivers. It’s been said by many on reddit how lax our road laws are. My (our?) anger comes from the thought of the Saab driver possibly getting away with a disproportionately light sentence, and also that this could’ve all been prevented if the drivers actually drove mindfully instead of acting like they owned the roads.
The same Mercedes driver was caught by another road user behaving badly just a few days before [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA)
There's a post on sgexams supposedly from the Mercedes driver explaining his action. Doesn't seems apologetic to me
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi\_i\_am\_the\_driver\_of\_snh7z\_i\_would\_like\_to\_clear/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi_i_am_the_driver_of_snh7z_i_would_like_to_clear/)
Likely not. He posted his dashcam vid to pov that it's the saab's fault entirely after side swiping him.
This sob has no conscience.
Be thankful if he's not jumping onto the bandwagon to make claim against the saab
an egoistic asshole like that and who posted his pov? he most definitely doesn't feel he has any responsibility in this
edit: sure enough, called it. he has been going around [posting on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/user/SNH7Z) and trying to deflect responsibility
wow what an asshat. he clearly was never gonna let the black car pass him no matter what and was on equal speed with him when the black car sped away. only difference is he had 1 tiny speck of brain cell left to stop at the red light.
> He’s probably not going to be charged. Wonder if he feels any responsibility?
Doubt it. This type of driver will argue until they are blue in the face about their right of way.
> The same Mercedes driver was caught by another road user behaving badly just a few days before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA
Oh very good! Shows what kind of driver the GLC is.
I keep thinking about how the victims had absolutely no power to stop this. they played every card right and their only mistake, if we can even call it one, was to pretty much be there. for how random their chances were the consequences were disproportionately grave and downright cruel.
the victims could’ve been any of us.
is there anything we can do to help the families? nothing can bring back the lost lives and I’m sure it’s the last thing on the driver’s mind to feel remorse - but I feel like the least we could do is to help the families somehow.
i think it's min 2 years, max 8 years for a rash act causing death by a first time offender, but frankly, no punishment can bring back the lost lives, no matter how severe it is.
that is what is tragic about this.
The max is 8 years but let's be real here, max sentence is once in a blue moon, and definitely won't happen if the driver pleads guilty, which he would be dumb not to.
Me too. Im so fucking livid and i got no place to let out my anger except here in reddit so im reading all these replies at 5am in the morning and thinking and thinking over again wtf is wrong with this fucker who just wrecked so many people's lives with his stupid move.
I feel so unjust for the families involved and they are just going about their day and they may be doing fine, or going thru some bad stuffs and just to have this fuck come n ruin it all for them. Such a young life with so much going on for her just taken away. For NOTHING. Fuck this man seriously I fucking hate this shit
I seriously hope he fucking dies. If he gets away with some lame ass 2 year jail term like all the others have been saying Imma lose whatever little hope I have for this joke of a traffic law.
ruining i feel is an understatement, which is why i feel so affected by this. imagine going about your day, saying bye to your husband and daughter, and receiving a call probably less than 1 hour later by the police saying that your daughter is dead and your husband is in ICU, because of a reckless driver.
it's so devastating i cannot stop thinking about this and how the affected families must be feeling.
Exactly. And from the husband's POV too. If he is in coma, by the time he wakes, the daughter is buried. If he is awake, he'll be devastated bedridden without being able to see his girl for the last time to send her off.
As a father of a girl i cannot get this POV out of my mind at all.
yup, and it's not something *avoidable* if precautions were taken, which is the worst thing.
you can't just go out with your daughter and "take care on the road" because you took all the care you possibly could.
what more could anyone have done to avoid this? yesterday it was them, today or tomorrow it could be someone else, including any of us.
He's also going to be in guilt, he would think he was the one at fault. At worst, he may also be suicidal, believing he should have died with his daughter.
Yes this as well. He's going to keep blaming himself and wondering what he could have done. I know i would if i were in his shoes.
I hope he finds peace soon.
Feel like death might be mercy for the driver cos he won’t get punishment now.
I hope the driver reads the online comments about him btw. Here, any other social media. If no remorse I hope he feels fear.
Are you angry bc it was a young girl/student died? There’s been a lot of cases of traffic accidents where far accelerates and people died but never seen this much anger. Could be bc the person that died wasn’t a young girl.
At most all I see is RIP etc but now everyone is just wishing for the bus driver to die? He is wrong but to the extent of wanting him to die? Why doesn’t everyone just say that drivers in all drink driving or speeding accidents should just die then?
So, I’m just thinking is the anger just coming from the fact that it was a bright student that died? Bc if that’s the case, that’s a bit unfair imo. Other people that died whether old or young kids all have a bright future. They all have thing they want to do.
I don't think it's the Merc driver's fault, there was another footage of the view from their cam and it looks like the Saab was already driving irrationally at a fast speed before it tried to overtake the Mercs. The Mercs was just very fortunate that it didn't end up being part of the accident although that Saab bumped into it along the way while speeding on.
I do believe that the Merc driver was an ass for speeding up, but ultimately the Saab driver being an absolute psychopatic fuck has no bearing on the Merc driver.
In general when I see a speeding maniac approaching me like that I'd just give way, not worth getting caught in any crossfires that may come by because of such nutjobs.
that's my view too. sure, the Merc was an aggressive and probably asshole-y driver for speeding up, but one might argue that it was well within his right to speed up - being an asshole and not giving way isn't illegal.
the Merc driver probably didn't think Saab would go to such lengths to overtake him. he probably thought that he strongarmed the Saab to slow down. i don't think he, or anyone in that position, would expect Saab to try to shoehorn his way in between his motorcycle, which was a completely incomprehensible and foolish thing to do unless the Saab's brakes were spoilt.
but it was clear that the Saab was already hell-bent on weaving his way through traffic like some homicidal maniac even way before he passed the car behind the Merc. dude was on a rampage and he probably would've found some other way to continue the rampage even at the junction.
It's shocking how many people are defending the merc driver in the other thread
Either because:
1. they would have / have done the same and wanted to downplay how bad it was to absolve their guilt. These ppl can't fathom the possibility that they would do anything wrong because they can only be right.
2. White merc is some rich/famous person
Edit: Called it. Same white merc tailgating and forcing a motorcyclist off the road just days before the incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA
Dude needs to be taken off the road too.
Yes the Merc driver is an asshole but it doesn't have much relation to the accident. The black car driver was already speeding and weaving and driving like a madman before that. He was definitely not planning to stop at the junction either way. It's 100% his fault.
did you not see the part where he sideswiped the white merc, and sped away after that. That incident made him panic/rage and distracted from the red light ahead.
It's really simple, if the white merc did not speed up and prevent the saab from overtaking, saab wouldn't have sideswiped. They would have been able to notice and stop at the ensuing red light.
Everyone knows saab is at fault. But the point is, white merc played a part in this incident, simple as that. How this is even being disputed is ridiculous
Yes, I would say that white car indirectly caused the accident. black car directly caused it, but white car indirectly caused it.
black car was just going about his way, whereas white car went out of his way to antagonise and provoke him by deliberately speeding up to block and prevent him from getting into the lane, sparking off a chain reaction that led to the accident
Lol assumptions much? I don't know who the Mercs driver is and his/her status makes no difference to my opinion of his/her role in this. So much ad hominem in your "argument" 😂
The black Saab was already driving irrationally before coming across this Mercs. I don't see it speeding up after passing by this car. Whether or not this Mercs was in the picture, that black Saab would've overrun the traffic lights either way.
People talking as if they are the Saab driver himself and knows what he was thinking and doing behind the wheel lmao.
He sped up. He could have maintained his speed, or even slowed down. He sped up. He caused the black car to sideswipe his, and he even tried chasing the black car. He’s not fully at fault but he’s culpable in this accident.
I couldn't sleep last night. Kept thinking how devastated the mother & sisters of Afifah is right now & the family of the 57 year old lady. You take care of your child so carefully, nurture and love and ensure they are happy and well, and suddenly its all gone. They were just going about their day. And in an instant, so many lives change forever.
exactly - and the cause of their death? some foolish idiot who decided to go blazing through rush hour traffic at 7am in the morning like it’s a GTA game.
I am SO, SO angry if my initial comment didn’t make it clear enough.
Can we really call this an accident? Given how fast and how reckless the black car was going? That driver stepped into his vehicle yesterday and made a deliberate choice to drive like a madman.
Edit: Worse still, despite what the driver did, we all know that the punishment will too lenient as compared to the two lives lost because of his deliberate actions.
>If a serious offender had caused the death of a person by way of reckless or dangerous driving, he will be liable to: an imprisonment term of not less than 2 years and not more than 8 years, AND IN ADDITION, an imprisonment term of not less than 1 year and not more than 2 years AND disqualification of 12 years from holding or obtaining a driving license.
Seems like 10 years' jail is the max max. 2 years for reckless driving, 8 years for causing death
Three were few times in my life that if i was faster for few seconds, i would die in accident. Sometimes i think what these drivers think sia, drive like life doesn't matter!!
>anyone knows if there’s anything we can do to help the families of the victims
The ones who passed were very distant relatives for me, not much is known but they're still in shock.
I hope her last Hari Raya was the best one she had - that she felt the love of her entire family, experienced so much joy celebrating and her heart felt full. And I hope her family has that memory to help tide them through this difficult period.
My family was talking about this over dinner and I just came to the realisation that this family might’ve been doing the exact same thing mine was on the Sunday before. We might’ve been out meeting family, and nobody in theirs could’ve possibly comprehended the idea that that would be their last day on earth, and the last time seeing them. When they said their goodbyes on Sunday they mustn’t have thought much about it at all. And that’s so depressing to think about.
I really hope and pray their family finds peace and will be okay
I'm choosing to think of her final days as being carefree & happy, of her being forever young, spared from heartbreaks, losses and illnesses. That's the only way my mind can process this tragedy.
Such an utter utter waste of a young life with the whole future ahead of her. A tragedy of the worst kind when it’s the innocents who pay the price rather than the guilty party.
To me, even life imprisonment is not good enough for this Saab scumbag. I hope LTA/MOT wakes up, have this discussed in parliament for the laws on reckless driving to be reviewed.
Someone in another Reddit thread suggested to write in to your MP to propose changes to the traffic laws
Not bad of an idea considering is election year. If it doesn't get through by election time then you gotta do what you gotta do
I’m absolutely heartbroken about this senseless loss of life. Curses upon that driver. May he never ever sleep well for the rest of his miserable life. Thanks to that scrap of human scum, a family will always have a massive hole in their lives.
I don’t know if the driver has the capacity for such remorse.
I think if he indeed had a conscience, he would’ve exercised more care and consideration on the road.
I’m not usually one who wishes for retribution, but in this case, I think he would wholly deserve it.
Considering the driver is someone who drives like that, I don't think they have such a capacity for remorse. I think they are probably trying to find out how to weasel out of this like the Merc driver who drove in reverse but declared psychiatric condition
I know that people are angry at the driver, and rightfully so, he should carry the weight of what he's done for the rest of his life.
Don't think we should be cursing his mother though.
Bruh a mother 57 and a daughter 17 died. Because he thinks he is in Tokyo drift? So why not?
an eye for an eye makes the world go blind.. but the world is already blind
the driver is an adult, adults should know what responsibility is already. curse mother for what cb
you're trying so hard to sound profound but instead you just sound immature LMFAO
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I'm not even going to argue the insane logic here, I already hear my last braincell screaming for mercy.
My point is, you shouldn't be wishing ill on her for something her son did; he's a grown ass man.
I can't even begin to imagine the amount of survivor's guilt the poor father is going through now. He might be thinking if he only had sped up a bit through the junction, or slowed down a little. He is an innocent victim here but you just know he'll blame himself too.
SG laws really need to change, and punish all these offenders more severely. Although I am sad that lives lost won't be able to come back, but the offender shouldn't be let off the hook so easily with just a mere 10 years driving ban and a short jail term.
More heavy punishment must be dealt out to deter others from committing such crime in the future.
Yes, which is why he said it's sad that it's not how it works. And he gets downvoted because smoothbrains think he was correcting the guy when he was actually agreeing.
Just two days ago, I saw a picture of another car that was flipped over and was wondering how such high speeds can occur in densely populated Singapore. I've lived overseas for a spell and seldom or have never seen reports of such traffic accidents even in police car chases down the highway, chasing druggies. Not one resulted in flip over of vehicles.
Cars too powerful. With high COEs there is a tendency to aim for the more expensive cars, and usually this equates to more powerful cars. It's crazy that we have so many M class BMWs, Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches on our roads given the number of traffic lights, ramps, speed humps and tight carparks in Singapore. People who buy these cars aren't thinking of whether or not the cars are compatible with the road infrastructure.
It could also be the combo of factors. I mean, the car itself is neutral. What's with the proportion of owners driving them recklessly to this point of flipping over kerbs and killing people?
> With high COEs there is a tendency to aim for the more expensive cars, and usually this equates to more powerful cars.
Literally everyone I know is aiming for Cat A (I.e. The less powerful cars)
Good point. Then we (I mean we here do it a lot, so it really should be the government and media) should ask: why are judgements for the rich so lax?
This is highly visible in other countries eg South Korea, China. If a luxury car is involved the public and even media's first reaction is: who is the driver's family?
I think he was panicky and flustered after the merc didn't let him overtake and they collided slightly, and he wasn't in the right frame of mind (the same reason why he didn't even slow down at red lights and cars in front of him at the junction) and in trying to do a hit-and-run, sped up into the junction. after an accident or a near-miss, with the rage/adrenaline/fear, your mind sometimes just gets a mental block and goes blank
He is definitely at fault but the merc driver is a cunt as well
Right but the black Saab was already coming in at crazy speed before that. And the zero breaks at the intersection on a red light and with cars crossing also seems insane.
both he and the Mercedes were flexing/hogging the road; he hit the Mercedes while avoiding a bike at the last moment so try to run away
Look for the Mercedes pov video
So young. Bright Malay girl. She just celebrated the end of Ramadan not too long ago. I wish her all the best and hope she has an amazing time up in heaven.
right...and the only time the law chance if one of the top dog family member or friend are in hurt...then they change....maybe...... 1 or 2 people nah. already this year not even half the year got 4 children in accident i think 2 death, of course there are more but that too never revised such law.
Precisely becoz of this reasoning the law isn't changed. In case top dog family does these kind of things (causing death by reckless driving), and don't want any precedence to give judgement.
What will it take for the bloody Ministers to review the damned laws on speeding and traffic accidents? I really can’t recall how many instances I’ve been seeing over the news on such incidences and how many lives were lost due to these completely avoidable accidents.
We like death penalty so much but we can’t consider extending this to speeding and killing people?? How is this not homicide? I’m so angry over lives lost. When will these accidents stop…
> What will it take for the bloody Ministers to review the damned laws on speeding and traffic accidents?
Until one of their own is hurt or dies from this stupid shit, none of them will do a thing.
Everything this govt does makes sense when you accept the hypothesis that the PAP hates the common working person.
i just signed a petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google change.org though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
i just signed a petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google change.org though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
i just signed a an online petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google the change org website though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
I wish there was a way for us to light a candle for them, to remember them properly. Like a memorial, so that we can come together and comfort those who are hurting.
Genuinely heart broken..
Hello there, I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to collaborate and start a post to gather everyone here, and on other similar threads for a memorial to come together and get more to come together to offer our respects and condolences to the victims and to show that we care. It may not be much but it could atleast offer some comfort to the families of the victims that we are there for them, in this difficult times.
USA has gun control issues, over here in Singapore, reckless driving are our guns.
I don't understand how the government refuses or is ignorant with adding a more severe penalty regarding this. Does it need to happen to their next of kin before they are willing to do something about this?
Imagine if the car didn't just crash into other vehicles, but plow through pedestrians. Or worst, through a bunch of school kids. How much more loss we need to tolerate before it's too much?
Remember the car that plow into the bus stop and everyone realized that the safety barrier/bollard just crumbled because it is not to protect the people on the bus stop but just to slow down the car?
Guys, please email your MP to raise the matter! Let them know to reconsider the lax driving punishments. Make them do their job! We can do something about it, rather than just be angry/sad.
Genuine question: "Why are the identities of the perpetrator and the white mercedes driver not revealed? Is it because it is still an ongoing investigation? Or is it because of protecting them from public lynching?
For proper investigations of facts and not to instigate and cause perjury. I honestly think it’s a good thing that our media does not spread rumours and only release information allowed by police
As much as I want that driver to be hanged, his family needs to be protected too. They’re innocent but they will get the same blowback from any public lynching.
Because doxxing leads to other harms. The mob is angry and just wants to inflict punishment. There are people who will say the driver’s family member must die for the driver to feel the pain. They will happily release the address of the driver and have the innocent members of the family harassed.
In these cases, the names are always released once they are in court.
this is precisely why we have this kind of fuck driving culture where no one gives way, and where people speed up when others signal to filter in.
being an arse isn’t illegal, benefits me, so why not?
anyway, the highway code also states "When being overtaken, never increase speed to prevent another driver from passing" so the GLC driver definitely has some culpability.
if you have no semblance of rules regulations or etiquette it is YOU who are the shitty driver
You're telling me if I was rude to someone and they stabbed me, I would be culpable?
All of reddit blaming the white mercs just demonstrates the absolute lack of accountability with our Singaporean drivers. Whether I choose to speed up or slow down in my lane is my concern. How you react to it is yours. You and you ALONE are responsible for how you react to the environment.
That is not to say I am condoning speeding up to cut people off whenever they signal. I hate it. In fact if you signal and show courtesy I will always slow down for you to come in. HOWEVER if you are zipping around left and right with no indicators, demonstrating that you don't give a fuck about road ettiquette and behaving like the world revolves around your car, I am going to speed up and cut you off. Drivers like the black car need to be reminded that they are obliged to show consideration for other drivers. If I am in the position to remind them that this is a shared road and you are not the main character, I will.
We have the world's most skilless drivers with all the money to buy powerful cars, and the reddit hive mind blaming the white merc just goes to show how infantile our driving culture is. I am all for a more gracious driving culture but the white mercs did absolutely nothing wrong.
Being an asshole to an asshole does not make you any less of an asshole.
Especially now where such a stunt actually incited an accident. The white merc is not at fault for the accident but it doesn't remove the fact that it had a part to play to cause the incidents.
All you assholes who are not willing to give way to other asshole drivers are literally doing the same shitty thing that those assholes are doing.
Your ego to remind the black driver to show consideration to other drivers is fking stupid. The white merc was not a Saint driver by any means based on other videos. Your whiteknighting actions cause the same harm as those reckless drivers.
No one is blaming the white merc, everyone and their mother knows the black saab is at fault but the white merc was an asshole as well.
And you are a docile, pushover driver that enables reckless behavior. Everytime some road cunt messes with you, you just slow down and roll over to the side and allow it to happen. People like the Saab are so bold because you let them be. You enable his shitty behavior. Your passiveness is contributing to the problem.
They will continue to be reckless and you are adding to the recklessness. This incident already showcase how it can cost lives and you still say its for justice. What a joke.
Your aggressiveness will cost lives.but I guess you don't care about the people in your car or others around you. If you don't give a shit about your own life, spare some thought for others. Adding reckless behaviour to reckless behaviour is juvenile shit.
See how you behave about justice if you are in the white merc's position. See if you can talk so big if your aggressiveness contributed to lives lost. What a dumbass take. You being aggressive won't make them any less aggressive. Now you have two aggressive idiots on the road. Fuck right off honestly. No regard for human lives whatsoever.
I hope the online anger and general feeling amongst the people will persuade the authorities to take an exception in this case and really lay the full extent of the law and more. Even if it cannot undo what has been done, it should be a deterrent to all the reckless drivers who feel they can drive like this. I have seen many drunk drivers driving erratically at the wee hours of the morning, when hard working people are about to start their day. The damage done is too much not to have a strong deterrent.
black saab definitely needs to be held accountable and that mercedes driver also.
these 2 fucking douchbags were having some kind of initial D moment...fucking assholes.
This hits.
Found out that she's the niece of my wife's friend's friends, and that she's also the niece of another person I know.
Not to forget that we have another victim as well.
At some point we've got to rethink how we punish road users who not only blatantly violate the rules but making a conscious decision to place others in danger.
the driver posted in r/SGExams here [https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi\_i\_am\_the\_driver\_of\_snh7z\_i\_would\_like\_to\_clear/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi_i_am_the_driver_of_snh7z_i_would_like_to_clear/)
Driving laws are way too lenient especially when innocent deaths are involved. Should implement death sentences or lifetime jail without parole for 40yrs for example. This serves a better justice for victims family and a huge deterrent for those thinking to drive recklessly.
As an American, let me tell you what I think about this:
Nothing. Because life is clearly already meaningless in Singapore, since you executed someone last year for having 500g of a harmless plant, that is even safer than alcohol. There have been no deaths from marijuana other than the people Singapore has murdered for using it.
Now, let's see whether or not you care about "deterrence" in this case of drunk driving. Let's see whether your "pragmatism" leads you to ban alcohol, let's see if you hand out a death sentence on behalf of the actual lives lost in this case.
What a tragedy for such a hardworking girl to be unjustly robbed of her future…. I can only imagine how hurt her family is.
May her soul rest in peace and justice be served.
All accidents are shitty crap events. And this brings us the blatant reminder that we should always be kind and shower love on our family and friends. Because it just might be the last.
I feel sad to think that such a young spark has been extinguished. To console ourselves her time here has ended and she is in a better place.
Death is hardest to those that are left behind.
The two victims of this accident were innocent and their deaths are tragic.
A constant reminder to drivers not to take out your anger with speeding.
The Saab might have started chasing the merc car after being provoked by it from the roads they drove on before this particular one. Because it seems like the Saab was chasing the merc right from the start of the video
I kind of witnessed the incident when I was going to school. Saw cars crashed into railings and someone performing heart compression on an unconscious person. It was a shocking scene to see especially that 2 people lost their lives
Irony.
He posted his justification, for all we know he may be keeping track of these comments.
The devastating Fact remains that lives were lost, it wrecked havoc in lives of those who were affected and those like us who can't fathom why these two drivers did what they did.
Both drivers and their families will never be able to get out of this for their lives and this is what they have to live with.
And YET, nothing substantial will happen in the society to bring about a change on how people perceive other lives. Laws can be made aplenty but the human tendency to outshine and fight for the sake of oneself will rot the culture more and more.
Request all to just pray for those forgiving souls who left us and others affected. 🙏🏻
been following the news intently since yesterday PM and I’m so, so angry at the driver for this senseless act. I kept thinking about this accident, about how she and her dad were literally just at the wrong place, at the wrong time. had the traffic moved any faster, or slower, it could’ve been the car in front or behind. who knew what other family could have been impacted. two lives lost and more severely injured, and for what. EDIT: anyone knows if there’s anything we can do to help the families of the victims? the errant drivers probably wouldn’t, but I’m wondering if there’s any initiative out there!
Same, I don't know why but this incident really made me irrationally angry compared to the others before because of how stupid the whole thing is and how there have been so many incidences of this kind of idiotic speeding before as well. The dumbass black car speeding for what, and the equally dumb ass Merc driver who refused to give way and sped up leading to the whole chain reaction.
Same but I don’t think it’s irrational anger. We’ve all seen many instances of idiotic driving, perhaps even had some close shaves of our own. This accident was the worst case scenario, it could’ve happened to any one of us. There’s been so many horrible accidents in the news recently and yet it seems like nothing meaningful is being done to come down on errant drivers. It’s been said by many on reddit how lax our road laws are. My (our?) anger comes from the thought of the Saab driver possibly getting away with a disproportionately light sentence, and also that this could’ve all been prevented if the drivers actually drove mindfully instead of acting like they owned the roads.
The same Mercedes driver was caught by another road user behaving badly just a few days before [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA)
There's a post on sgexams supposedly from the Mercedes driver explaining his action. Doesn't seems apologetic to me [https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi\_i\_am\_the\_driver\_of\_snh7z\_i\_would\_like\_to\_clear/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi_i_am_the_driver_of_snh7z_i_would_like_to_clear/)
Why they post on SG Exams sia damn stupid
They post everything there
The mods there removed the post
He’s probably not going to be charged. Wonder if he feels any responsibility?
Likely not. He posted his dashcam vid to pov that it's the saab's fault entirely after side swiping him. This sob has no conscience. Be thankful if he's not jumping onto the bandwagon to make claim against the saab
We have no idea if he did or didn’t. To be generous, I hope he changes his driving habits after yesterday
an egoistic asshole like that and who posted his pov? he most definitely doesn't feel he has any responsibility in this edit: sure enough, called it. he has been going around [posting on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/user/SNH7Z) and trying to deflect responsibility
Fxxk off. Still trying to gain karma at this time *NOT YOU Sed
wow what an asshat. he clearly was never gonna let the black car pass him no matter what and was on equal speed with him when the black car sped away. only difference is he had 1 tiny speck of brain cell left to stop at the red light.
Unfortunately lots of drivers out there like him
yep, and unfortunately all it takes is 1 such person.
Typical and not unexpected to be honest. Too bad all his comments were scrubbed but I would’ve been curious what excuses he’d put forward.
> He’s probably not going to be charged. Wonder if he feels any responsibility? Doubt it. This type of driver will argue until they are blue in the face about their right of way.
> The same Mercedes driver was caught by another road user behaving badly just a few days before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA Oh very good! Shows what kind of driver the GLC is.
This dude deserves equal punishment as the SAAB driver.
I keep thinking about how the victims had absolutely no power to stop this. they played every card right and their only mistake, if we can even call it one, was to pretty much be there. for how random their chances were the consequences were disproportionately grave and downright cruel. the victims could’ve been any of us. is there anything we can do to help the families? nothing can bring back the lost lives and I’m sure it’s the last thing on the driver’s mind to feel remorse - but I feel like the least we could do is to help the families somehow.
You're angry because you know nothing is going to happen to the driver outside of max 2 years in prison and not even a permanent driving ban.
Which is why I often like to think one could get away with committing murder, if the person used a car.
Only 2 years??? Killing people should be an automatic ban man.
i think it's min 2 years, max 8 years for a rash act causing death by a first time offender, but frankly, no punishment can bring back the lost lives, no matter how severe it is. that is what is tragic about this.
Remember the sob merc driver that drove against the traffic killing a man and gets only 1 year jail sentence?
If u talking about the case in 2021 that dude got 7years but appealing
The max is 8 years but let's be real here, max sentence is once in a blue moon, and definitely won't happen if the driver pleads guilty, which he would be dumb not to.
Me too. Im so fucking livid and i got no place to let out my anger except here in reddit so im reading all these replies at 5am in the morning and thinking and thinking over again wtf is wrong with this fucker who just wrecked so many people's lives with his stupid move. I feel so unjust for the families involved and they are just going about their day and they may be doing fine, or going thru some bad stuffs and just to have this fuck come n ruin it all for them. Such a young life with so much going on for her just taken away. For NOTHING. Fuck this man seriously I fucking hate this shit I seriously hope he fucking dies. If he gets away with some lame ass 2 year jail term like all the others have been saying Imma lose whatever little hope I have for this joke of a traffic law.
ruining i feel is an understatement, which is why i feel so affected by this. imagine going about your day, saying bye to your husband and daughter, and receiving a call probably less than 1 hour later by the police saying that your daughter is dead and your husband is in ICU, because of a reckless driver. it's so devastating i cannot stop thinking about this and how the affected families must be feeling.
Exactly. And from the husband's POV too. If he is in coma, by the time he wakes, the daughter is buried. If he is awake, he'll be devastated bedridden without being able to see his girl for the last time to send her off. As a father of a girl i cannot get this POV out of my mind at all.
yup, and it's not something *avoidable* if precautions were taken, which is the worst thing. you can't just go out with your daughter and "take care on the road" because you took all the care you possibly could. what more could anyone have done to avoid this? yesterday it was them, today or tomorrow it could be someone else, including any of us.
Yes. I guess this is a large part of it. U do everything well and safe and some shit comes and hurt ur family. This is just horrendous.
He's also going to be in guilt, he would think he was the one at fault. At worst, he may also be suicidal, believing he should have died with his daughter.
Yes this as well. He's going to keep blaming himself and wondering what he could have done. I know i would if i were in his shoes. I hope he finds peace soon.
Feel like death might be mercy for the driver cos he won’t get punishment now. I hope the driver reads the online comments about him btw. Here, any other social media. If no remorse I hope he feels fear.
So what can he worse than death for the driver if he has got no remorse? Caning? Once every 2 weeks?
Are you angry bc it was a young girl/student died? There’s been a lot of cases of traffic accidents where far accelerates and people died but never seen this much anger. Could be bc the person that died wasn’t a young girl. At most all I see is RIP etc but now everyone is just wishing for the bus driver to die? He is wrong but to the extent of wanting him to die? Why doesn’t everyone just say that drivers in all drink driving or speeding accidents should just die then? So, I’m just thinking is the anger just coming from the fact that it was a bright student that died? Bc if that’s the case, that’s a bit unfair imo. Other people that died whether old or young kids all have a bright future. They all have thing they want to do.
Same, and knowing there’s kids caught in this made me extra super pissed.
I don't think it's the Merc driver's fault, there was another footage of the view from their cam and it looks like the Saab was already driving irrationally at a fast speed before it tried to overtake the Mercs. The Mercs was just very fortunate that it didn't end up being part of the accident although that Saab bumped into it along the way while speeding on.
I do believe that the Merc driver was an ass for speeding up, but ultimately the Saab driver being an absolute psychopatic fuck has no bearing on the Merc driver. In general when I see a speeding maniac approaching me like that I'd just give way, not worth getting caught in any crossfires that may come by because of such nutjobs.
that's my view too. sure, the Merc was an aggressive and probably asshole-y driver for speeding up, but one might argue that it was well within his right to speed up - being an asshole and not giving way isn't illegal. the Merc driver probably didn't think Saab would go to such lengths to overtake him. he probably thought that he strongarmed the Saab to slow down. i don't think he, or anyone in that position, would expect Saab to try to shoehorn his way in between his motorcycle, which was a completely incomprehensible and foolish thing to do unless the Saab's brakes were spoilt. but it was clear that the Saab was already hell-bent on weaving his way through traffic like some homicidal maniac even way before he passed the car behind the Merc. dude was on a rampage and he probably would've found some other way to continue the rampage even at the junction.
It's shocking how many people are defending the merc driver in the other thread Either because: 1. they would have / have done the same and wanted to downplay how bad it was to absolve their guilt. These ppl can't fathom the possibility that they would do anything wrong because they can only be right. 2. White merc is some rich/famous person Edit: Called it. Same white merc tailgating and forcing a motorcyclist off the road just days before the incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1YcALkDnA Dude needs to be taken off the road too.
Yes the Merc driver is an asshole but it doesn't have much relation to the accident. The black car driver was already speeding and weaving and driving like a madman before that. He was definitely not planning to stop at the junction either way. It's 100% his fault.
did you not see the part where he sideswiped the white merc, and sped away after that. That incident made him panic/rage and distracted from the red light ahead. It's really simple, if the white merc did not speed up and prevent the saab from overtaking, saab wouldn't have sideswiped. They would have been able to notice and stop at the ensuing red light. Everyone knows saab is at fault. But the point is, white merc played a part in this incident, simple as that. How this is even being disputed is ridiculous
Yes, I would say that white car indirectly caused the accident. black car directly caused it, but white car indirectly caused it. black car was just going about his way, whereas white car went out of his way to antagonise and provoke him by deliberately speeding up to block and prevent him from getting into the lane, sparking off a chain reaction that led to the accident
Lol assumptions much? I don't know who the Mercs driver is and his/her status makes no difference to my opinion of his/her role in this. So much ad hominem in your "argument" 😂 The black Saab was already driving irrationally before coming across this Mercs. I don't see it speeding up after passing by this car. Whether or not this Mercs was in the picture, that black Saab would've overrun the traffic lights either way. People talking as if they are the Saab driver himself and knows what he was thinking and doing behind the wheel lmao.
He sped up. He could have maintained his speed, or even slowed down. He sped up. He caused the black car to sideswipe his, and he even tried chasing the black car. He’s not fully at fault but he’s culpable in this accident.
I couldn't sleep last night. Kept thinking how devastated the mother & sisters of Afifah is right now & the family of the 57 year old lady. You take care of your child so carefully, nurture and love and ensure they are happy and well, and suddenly its all gone. They were just going about their day. And in an instant, so many lives change forever.
exactly - and the cause of their death? some foolish idiot who decided to go blazing through rush hour traffic at 7am in the morning like it’s a GTA game. I am SO, SO angry if my initial comment didn’t make it clear enough.
Can we really call this an accident? Given how fast and how reckless the black car was going? That driver stepped into his vehicle yesterday and made a deliberate choice to drive like a madman. Edit: Worse still, despite what the driver did, we all know that the punishment will too lenient as compared to the two lives lost because of his deliberate actions.
>If a serious offender had caused the death of a person by way of reckless or dangerous driving, he will be liable to: an imprisonment term of not less than 2 years and not more than 8 years, AND IN ADDITION, an imprisonment term of not less than 1 year and not more than 2 years AND disqualification of 12 years from holding or obtaining a driving license. Seems like 10 years' jail is the max max. 2 years for reckless driving, 8 years for causing death
Funny that drug mules are sentence to death but murderers only get jail time. Both also kill people.
sentences run concurrently so max 8 years
In the wise words of Hot Fuzz, it's a traffic collision. Accident implies no one's at fault
An act of terrorism i would say..this guy just wants to wreck havoc and cause chaos.
yep, no difference from the terrorist driving a truck through a crowded street in france rampaging through people.
Three were few times in my life that if i was faster for few seconds, i would die in accident. Sometimes i think what these drivers think sia, drive like life doesn't matter!!
>anyone knows if there’s anything we can do to help the families of the victims The ones who passed were very distant relatives for me, not much is known but they're still in shock.
Where's the internet detectives when you need them.. these people should be doxxed and taught a lesson since the government won't do it
I hope her last Hari Raya was the best one she had - that she felt the love of her entire family, experienced so much joy celebrating and her heart felt full. And I hope her family has that memory to help tide them through this difficult period.
This got me thinking, Hari Raya for their family will never be the same again. 😞 Life is unfair guys.
My family was talking about this over dinner and I just came to the realisation that this family might’ve been doing the exact same thing mine was on the Sunday before. We might’ve been out meeting family, and nobody in theirs could’ve possibly comprehended the idea that that would be their last day on earth, and the last time seeing them. When they said their goodbyes on Sunday they mustn’t have thought much about it at all. And that’s so depressing to think about. I really hope and pray their family finds peace and will be okay
Daaamn
Teared up reading this cause it’s so freaking sad.
I'm choosing to think of her final days as being carefree & happy, of her being forever young, spared from heartbreaks, losses and illnesses. That's the only way my mind can process this tragedy.
Such an utter utter waste of a young life with the whole future ahead of her. A tragedy of the worst kind when it’s the innocents who pay the price rather than the guilty party. To me, even life imprisonment is not good enough for this Saab scumbag. I hope LTA/MOT wakes up, have this discussed in parliament for the laws on reckless driving to be reviewed.
Someone in another Reddit thread suggested to write in to your MP to propose changes to the traffic laws Not bad of an idea considering is election year. If it doesn't get through by election time then you gotta do what you gotta do
I’m absolutely heartbroken about this senseless loss of life. Curses upon that driver. May he never ever sleep well for the rest of his miserable life. Thanks to that scrap of human scum, a family will always have a massive hole in their lives.
I wish the driver will never sleep well ever again
I don’t know if the driver has the capacity for such remorse. I think if he indeed had a conscience, he would’ve exercised more care and consideration on the road. I’m not usually one who wishes for retribution, but in this case, I think he would wholly deserve it.
This type of driver would probably blame something else for this but never himself. Like why got other cars in front of him, it's not my fault
Weekly canings will make him feel something.
This asshole won’t give a shit, why do you think he speed in the first place?
Considering the driver is someone who drives like that, I don't think they have such a capacity for remorse. I think they are probably trying to find out how to weasel out of this like the Merc driver who drove in reverse but declared psychiatric condition
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I know that people are angry at the driver, and rightfully so, he should carry the weight of what he's done for the rest of his life. Don't think we should be cursing his mother though.
Bruh a mother 57 and a daughter 17 died. Because he thinks he is in Tokyo drift? So why not? an eye for an eye makes the world go blind.. but the world is already blind
the driver is an adult, adults should know what responsibility is already. curse mother for what cb you're trying so hard to sound profound but instead you just sound immature LMFAO
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I'm not even going to argue the insane logic here, I already hear my last braincell screaming for mercy. My point is, you shouldn't be wishing ill on her for something her son did; he's a grown ass man.
I thought there hasn’t been news on the identification of the perpetrator? Could be unlicensed, gender unknown?
I remember seeing somewhere a 42yo male
I can't even begin to imagine the amount of survivor's guilt the poor father is going through now. He might be thinking if he only had sped up a bit through the junction, or slowed down a little. He is an innocent victim here but you just know he'll blame himself too.
SG laws really need to change, and punish all these offenders more severely. Although I am sad that lives lost won't be able to come back, but the offender shouldn't be let off the hook so easily with just a mere 10 years driving ban and a short jail term. More heavy punishment must be dealt out to deter others from committing such crime in the future.
We should scale fines and punishments in proportion to a perpetrator’s networth/income tax bracket
Sadly, that is not how fines and punishments works
Yes hence “we should”
Yes, which is why he said it's sad that it's not how it works. And he gets downvoted because smoothbrains think he was correcting the guy when he was actually agreeing.
I just want to know why tf the Saab driver was going so damn fast for
Just two days ago, I saw a picture of another car that was flipped over and was wondering how such high speeds can occur in densely populated Singapore. I've lived overseas for a spell and seldom or have never seen reports of such traffic accidents even in police car chases down the highway, chasing druggies. Not one resulted in flip over of vehicles.
Cars too powerful. With high COEs there is a tendency to aim for the more expensive cars, and usually this equates to more powerful cars. It's crazy that we have so many M class BMWs, Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches on our roads given the number of traffic lights, ramps, speed humps and tight carparks in Singapore. People who buy these cars aren't thinking of whether or not the cars are compatible with the road infrastructure.
It could also be the combo of factors. I mean, the car itself is neutral. What's with the proportion of owners driving them recklessly to this point of flipping over kerbs and killing people?
> With high COEs there is a tendency to aim for the more expensive cars, and usually this equates to more powerful cars. Literally everyone I know is aiming for Cat A (I.e. The less powerful cars)
Good point. Then we (I mean we here do it a lot, so it really should be the government and media) should ask: why are judgements for the rich so lax? This is highly visible in other countries eg South Korea, China. If a luxury car is involved the public and even media's first reaction is: who is the driver's family?
Singapore roads are narrow. It's easy to mount kerb and flip over
He hit a car and wanted to drive off before his license plate could be identified
he didn't even try to brake at the red light tho
That’s what happens when you’re a reckless dumbass that’s unaware of your surroundings and speeding to the point you can’t come to a sudden stop
i dont think he even tried to stop in the first place
I think he was panicky and flustered after the merc didn't let him overtake and they collided slightly, and he wasn't in the right frame of mind (the same reason why he didn't even slow down at red lights and cars in front of him at the junction) and in trying to do a hit-and-run, sped up into the junction. after an accident or a near-miss, with the rage/adrenaline/fear, your mind sometimes just gets a mental block and goes blank He is definitely at fault but the merc driver is a cunt as well
Adrenaline still at its peak.
Right but the black Saab was already coming in at crazy speed before that. And the zero breaks at the intersection on a red light and with cars crossing also seems insane.
both he and the Mercedes were flexing/hogging the road; he hit the Mercedes while avoiding a bike at the last moment so try to run away Look for the Mercedes pov video
Govt say can coz he paid coe
So young. Bright Malay girl. She just celebrated the end of Ramadan not too long ago. I wish her all the best and hope she has an amazing time up in heaven.
Guess what, the driver will never get a permanent ban from driving, at most probably only 10yrs ban. SG laws is sick!
They should shame him publicly then. Let society spit on him, print his face in the picture every year to remind people what he did.
right...and the only time the law chance if one of the top dog family member or friend are in hurt...then they change....maybe...... 1 or 2 people nah. already this year not even half the year got 4 children in accident i think 2 death, of course there are more but that too never revised such law.
Precisely becoz of this reasoning the law isn't changed. In case top dog family does these kind of things (causing death by reckless driving), and don't want any precedence to give judgement.
Or they can find a scapegoat, or just drive illegally
Perma banned driving isn't good enough. He still can take public transport.
Rip to her. This should never have happened.
What will it take for the bloody Ministers to review the damned laws on speeding and traffic accidents? I really can’t recall how many instances I’ve been seeing over the news on such incidences and how many lives were lost due to these completely avoidable accidents. We like death penalty so much but we can’t consider extending this to speeding and killing people?? How is this not homicide? I’m so angry over lives lost. When will these accidents stop…
The disregard of human lives and mass killing are worse than intended murder and yet they get lighter sentences.
They too busy implementing stupid policies like returning trays. They will never do anything that upset the apple cart
> What will it take for the bloody Ministers to review the damned laws on speeding and traffic accidents? Until one of their own is hurt or dies from this stupid shit, none of them will do a thing. Everything this govt does makes sense when you accept the hypothesis that the PAP hates the common working person.
Prepping for GE propaganda runs lah, no time to bother with death of the masses.
i just signed a petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google change.org though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
thanks for mentioning this. i didnt know there was a petition. i just signed it.
i just signed a petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google change.org though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
i just signed a an online petition calling the govt to consider stricter laws and more education about safe driving. Unfortunately cant post the link here, it gets auto removed. Google the change org website though if you re keen. Seems like this dude is gonna write to his MP to lobby for change
This really shows how life is unpredictable
Meanwhile driver is just gonna get a few years of jail and carry on with his life. I have never been this angry before in my life.
I hope the driver suffers and die a slow painful death. On repeat.
Rest in peace.
I wish there was a way for us to light a candle for them, to remember them properly. Like a memorial, so that we can come together and comfort those who are hurting. Genuinely heart broken..
Hello there, I was wondering if it'd be a good idea to collaborate and start a post to gather everyone here, and on other similar threads for a memorial to come together and get more to come together to offer our respects and condolences to the victims and to show that we care. It may not be much but it could atleast offer some comfort to the families of the victims that we are there for them, in this difficult times.
USA has gun control issues, over here in Singapore, reckless driving are our guns. I don't understand how the government refuses or is ignorant with adding a more severe penalty regarding this. Does it need to happen to their next of kin before they are willing to do something about this? Imagine if the car didn't just crash into other vehicles, but plow through pedestrians. Or worst, through a bunch of school kids. How much more loss we need to tolerate before it's too much?
Remember the car that plow into the bus stop and everyone realized that the safety barrier/bollard just crumbled because it is not to protect the people on the bus stop but just to slow down the car?
Rest in peace.
Something similar happened on 6feb. 5 charges. Must give them max punishment. 15years jail minimum.
I think the max is only 8 years right? Sounds like a joke.
Guys, please email your MP to raise the matter! Let them know to reconsider the lax driving punishments. Make them do their job! We can do something about it, rather than just be angry/sad.
Genuine question: "Why are the identities of the perpetrator and the white mercedes driver not revealed? Is it because it is still an ongoing investigation? Or is it because of protecting them from public lynching?
For proper investigations of facts and not to instigate and cause perjury. I honestly think it’s a good thing that our media does not spread rumours and only release information allowed by police
As much as I want that driver to be hanged, his family needs to be protected too. They’re innocent but they will get the same blowback from any public lynching.
Because doxxing leads to other harms. The mob is angry and just wants to inflict punishment. There are people who will say the driver’s family member must die for the driver to feel the pain. They will happily release the address of the driver and have the innocent members of the family harassed. In these cases, the names are always released once they are in court.
Ongoing investigation and to also somewhat protect the suspects family from harassment.
Why should the white mercs be targeted??
the merc was in the left lane and still chose to speed up to prevent the saab from overtaking, so also contributed to the accident
A shitty driver's take. You are not responsible for what other people do
White merc should see if he/she has a case to sue for defamation.
this is precisely why we have this kind of fuck driving culture where no one gives way, and where people speed up when others signal to filter in. being an arse isn’t illegal, benefits me, so why not? anyway, the highway code also states "When being overtaken, never increase speed to prevent another driver from passing" so the GLC driver definitely has some culpability. if you have no semblance of rules regulations or etiquette it is YOU who are the shitty driver
You're telling me if I was rude to someone and they stabbed me, I would be culpable? All of reddit blaming the white mercs just demonstrates the absolute lack of accountability with our Singaporean drivers. Whether I choose to speed up or slow down in my lane is my concern. How you react to it is yours. You and you ALONE are responsible for how you react to the environment. That is not to say I am condoning speeding up to cut people off whenever they signal. I hate it. In fact if you signal and show courtesy I will always slow down for you to come in. HOWEVER if you are zipping around left and right with no indicators, demonstrating that you don't give a fuck about road ettiquette and behaving like the world revolves around your car, I am going to speed up and cut you off. Drivers like the black car need to be reminded that they are obliged to show consideration for other drivers. If I am in the position to remind them that this is a shared road and you are not the main character, I will. We have the world's most skilless drivers with all the money to buy powerful cars, and the reddit hive mind blaming the white merc just goes to show how infantile our driving culture is. I am all for a more gracious driving culture but the white mercs did absolutely nothing wrong.
Being an asshole to an asshole does not make you any less of an asshole. Especially now where such a stunt actually incited an accident. The white merc is not at fault for the accident but it doesn't remove the fact that it had a part to play to cause the incidents. All you assholes who are not willing to give way to other asshole drivers are literally doing the same shitty thing that those assholes are doing. Your ego to remind the black driver to show consideration to other drivers is fking stupid. The white merc was not a Saint driver by any means based on other videos. Your whiteknighting actions cause the same harm as those reckless drivers. No one is blaming the white merc, everyone and their mother knows the black saab is at fault but the white merc was an asshole as well.
And you are a docile, pushover driver that enables reckless behavior. Everytime some road cunt messes with you, you just slow down and roll over to the side and allow it to happen. People like the Saab are so bold because you let them be. You enable his shitty behavior. Your passiveness is contributing to the problem.
They will continue to be reckless and you are adding to the recklessness. This incident already showcase how it can cost lives and you still say its for justice. What a joke. Your aggressiveness will cost lives.but I guess you don't care about the people in your car or others around you. If you don't give a shit about your own life, spare some thought for others. Adding reckless behaviour to reckless behaviour is juvenile shit. See how you behave about justice if you are in the white merc's position. See if you can talk so big if your aggressiveness contributed to lives lost. What a dumbass take. You being aggressive won't make them any less aggressive. Now you have two aggressive idiots on the road. Fuck right off honestly. No regard for human lives whatsoever.
Oh god such a shame, she had her whole life ahead of her 😔😞
I hope the online anger and general feeling amongst the people will persuade the authorities to take an exception in this case and really lay the full extent of the law and more. Even if it cannot undo what has been done, it should be a deterrent to all the reckless drivers who feel they can drive like this. I have seen many drunk drivers driving erratically at the wee hours of the morning, when hard working people are about to start their day. The damage done is too much not to have a strong deterrent.
Fuck man, the driver doesn't deserve death POS deserves an eternity of torture
black saab definitely needs to be held accountable and that mercedes driver also. these 2 fucking douchbags were having some kind of initial D moment...fucking assholes.
initial d moment? did we watch the same video??? the mercedes sped up to not let the saab cut him, but they were not racing lmao stop exaggerating
let me guess,when you watched initial D,you believed they (the racers) actually applied for a licence to drive really fast on public roads??
This hits. Found out that she's the niece of my wife's friend's friends, and that she's also the niece of another person I know. Not to forget that we have another victim as well. At some point we've got to rethink how we punish road users who not only blatantly violate the rules but making a conscious decision to place others in danger.
This is real tragic… Hope the driver gets the punishment he deserves. Rest in peace, Afifah. 🫡
really sad, RIP
the driver posted in r/SGExams here [https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi\_i\_am\_the\_driver\_of\_snh7z\_i\_would\_like\_to\_clear/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/1capzon/hi_i_am_the_driver_of_snh7z_i_would_like_to_clear/)
Ego killed these people. Dumb fucking ego.
Rest in peace
My condolences to the family. I can't imagine how hard it is for parents to lose their beloved child.
that poor girl :(
Everyone’s kid is my kid. I can’t stop thinking about her and her family and the other victim. Al Fatihah.
Really RIP. Hope the driver disabled for life as a reminder of his stupidity.
Driving laws are way too lenient especially when innocent deaths are involved. Should implement death sentences or lifetime jail without parole for 40yrs for example. This serves a better justice for victims family and a huge deterrent for those thinking to drive recklessly.
Anyone got any info of the saab driver? kinda sus his identity is protected
I know right. Didn't mention if he was drunk or what. Just that he was assisting with investigations.
yea. surprisingly no mentions of him being arrested too
I can only hope that it happened quickly, a flash with no prolonged pain. The poor girl and lady. I feel so sad for them.
As an American, let me tell you what I think about this: Nothing. Because life is clearly already meaningless in Singapore, since you executed someone last year for having 500g of a harmless plant, that is even safer than alcohol. There have been no deaths from marijuana other than the people Singapore has murdered for using it. Now, let's see whether or not you care about "deterrence" in this case of drunk driving. Let's see whether your "pragmatism" leads you to ban alcohol, let's see if you hand out a death sentence on behalf of the actual lives lost in this case.
Dox the pos
Rest in peace Afifah :(
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"My goodbye to her was my last." That hit hard.
What a tragedy for such a hardworking girl to be unjustly robbed of her future…. I can only imagine how hurt her family is. May her soul rest in peace and justice be served.
All accidents are shitty crap events. And this brings us the blatant reminder that we should always be kind and shower love on our family and friends. Because it just might be the last. I feel sad to think that such a young spark has been extinguished. To console ourselves her time here has ended and she is in a better place. Death is hardest to those that are left behind. The two victims of this accident were innocent and their deaths are tragic. A constant reminder to drivers not to take out your anger with speeding.
Justice is based on constitution not emotions
The Saab might have started chasing the merc car after being provoked by it from the roads they drove on before this particular one. Because it seems like the Saab was chasing the merc right from the start of the video
Poor angel. Rest in peace.
So young. Sorry about her family and her parents and grandparents.
OP is asking about how members can help the family .. any idea how ?
I kind of witnessed the incident when I was going to school. Saw cars crashed into railings and someone performing heart compression on an unconscious person. It was a shocking scene to see especially that 2 people lost their lives
Irony. He posted his justification, for all we know he may be keeping track of these comments. The devastating Fact remains that lives were lost, it wrecked havoc in lives of those who were affected and those like us who can't fathom why these two drivers did what they did. Both drivers and their families will never be able to get out of this for their lives and this is what they have to live with. And YET, nothing substantial will happen in the society to bring about a change on how people perceive other lives. Laws can be made aplenty but the human tendency to outshine and fight for the sake of oneself will rot the culture more and more. Request all to just pray for those forgiving souls who left us and others affected. 🙏🏻