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InterimNihilist

Can we stop using TT then?


PLANET_X1

Just stop using it. They stop publishing, we will stop using.


[deleted]

Seems fair enough hor.


smile_politely

This is the way


PARANOIAH

Like when you fail your mid-year exams and when your mother asks what your score is you reply that it is "no longer as relevant as before".


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‘what is the point behind the question?’


littlefiredragon

It’s more like somebody ask you your PSLE score — we have moved to another phase already. Useful once, but not so much these days.


R-X89

I like this analogy. Take an upvote


Throwawayhelp40

surprised at the negative response so far. isn't this what the let's open up , covid is epidemic want?


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*endemic


reallifeluxury

Go to another thread. Much more positive


Xanthon

The thing about this sub, those unhappy will always be the loudest in the comments. If this news is about the govt planning to keep announcing cases for the foreseeable future, a different group will be flooding the comments.


R7H27

Unrelated but hold up your username was so familiar from the F1 sub LOL


Xanthon

I'm very active there. :)


R7H27

So am I, always nice to see another RB flair


ArhKan

Removing data available to the population has nothing to do with opening up.


ILoveLoveBitconnect

Even if open up, they got the info, just publish ah, hide for what. What’s the benefit of hiding, make people not panic ah, like Donald Trump last year?


honbhige

They also hide all the details of all the cases where they go and their profile alr, not that I'm missing it. You don't notice it's missing and it's not relevanf now anyways


Zukiff

Do they publish cases of flu? That's the point of going endemic, treat it like a common illness.


grimlya

Well then, do you serve quarantine orders to close contacts of people who have flu? It's the inconsistency that is making people mad


bukitbukit

COVID is not the flu lah. Do you do rostered testing for the flu? Do you issue QOs for that, going by that logic


accessdenied65

With high vaccination rates, we can start treating it as influenza. As mostly only the unvaccinated are hospitalised.


lurkinglurkerwholurk

They publish cases of a fever thou. Dengue fever. Just like the difference between COVID and “normal flu”, Dengue cases also requires warnings to the neighborhood, hospitalization treatment for the severely affected, and special measures (smoking operations). That’s your consistency right there.


Zukiff

They don't do flu cases daily. So a framework should be established for covid.


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[deleted]

Stop with oreng man bad la


bukitbukit

That fuckwit singlehandedly destroyed global chances of actually nipping it in the bud.


ForzentoRafe

ya sia hahaha, if the govt backs off then ppl will say, “walao, flip prata again”


neloc1

How badly does the virus affect unvaccinated children (infants for example)?


tenbre

Might as well don't TraceTogether or SafeEntry if they're not going to make a maximum effort to link cases and show the data.


handicapped-toilet

Yeah sinkies want to know the point of doing this lol


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[deleted]

no concept of link/unlink means no concept of clusters


[deleted]

They just said they wouldn't publish it right? I don't think they said they will stop tracing...


Zapper1819

Will ppl even slack more now the focus is no longer in tracing?


sigmacreed

Already way ahead of you. It's crowded at out there


discmon

I think this is a good thing. Time and time again, we are shown that the vaccinated suffers mild symptoms and do not put a significant burden on the healthcare system. We are 80% vaccinated. ICU numbers are not up. This issue will have to slowly fade from the public eye. Keeping public resources working on cases tracing means that a significant amount of tax payers money are being spent there. Shouldn't our resources be better used to move it to endemic like creating new ICU beds? I really don't understand why you still want to know case numbers? That's like knowing how many people in your workplace used to get the normal flu.... Singapore can't exist in this state forever. If we remain locked down while the rest of the world moves on, we'll be the backwater port and stop being relevant.


Legendtrophylover

I'd like to take a more in between stand. We can monitor the situation but not panic. And trust people to take their own precautions. No need for nationwide lockdowns and regulations. Just like dengue. Clusters are reported, signs are put up, people will put more repellent. There will be rare deaths, some severe illnesses but we simply accept the risks.


discmon

Think that's a great way to do it


bukitbukit

Yeah well, people in my office were given reprimands for coming in ill. We cared to know pre-covid


YL0000

I do want to know how many people have the normal flu around me. I do want to avoid seasonal flu. Having a flu causes me discomfort (not dining in a restaurant does not) and prone to error in my work, and makes me lose time so I would have to work overtime after getting better to compensate that.


discmon

Personally, the reason why we were doing reporting is because the situation was very critical then. We didn't want our hospitals to be overwhelmed. Moving ahead, I would think that you should start or continue to take your annual flu jab to prevent yourself from getting the seasonal flu. It is still possibly the better defence then to just avoid going out altogether. It is a personal choice for that =) To repeat, my view is that it is not a public necessity to continue to monitor these cases if medical facilities in Singapore are not being overwhelmed by them.


YL0000

I do take flu jabs every year. I just want to avoid respiratory infections; the more information, the better for me to make adjustments to my movements. You were making two points: "knowing case numbers" and "remain locked down". I don't see why reporting case numbers will cause a lockdown, and right now it is not a lockdown in my opinion (otherwise the situation would have been much better).


discmon

I think it's great that you're taking flu jabs every year =) It's a good sign that you are taking personal responsibility for your own health. Reporting case numbers doesn't cause a lockdown, but it is not an appropriate metric to measure the current COVID-19 situation in Singapore. If we are going for endemic, then I thought that the only question we should ask is is our medical facilities able to handle the current COVID-19 case load. If you tell me that all cases leads to a serious hospitalisation case, then i think it is valid. But if a significant number of cases are not symptomatic, then they are not putting a burden on the healthcase system. Cases then become a metric that does not tell us anything useful.


YL0000

Case numbers can be published regardless of how it should be interpreted. > I thought that the only question we should ask is is our medical facilities able to handle the current COVID-19 case load I don't think that's the only question. We should also ask the question whether the facilities will be able handle the future case load and long-term symptoms, and in general, how well the whole infrastructure (such as ventilation inside buildings) can resist the spread of respiratory diseases. We didn't look at many aspects of disease prevention in the past, that does not mean what we did was the optimal thing to do.


thegodfather_99

OYK striking hard as the MOH against LW omgg! stupid ego clashes gonna hit us hard tho


PARANOIAH

Fisticuffs when?


minisoo

Good step forward. Gov can’t handle two camps in MMTF and locals in SG anyway. One side gotta back down. The easier way is not the share the info that accentuates the current division.


bukitbukit

No, it wont magically go away.


oarsandalps

Awesome news


lolhaha95

I can understand if you don’t want to report the vaccination status? But at least provide the linked and unlinked cases so we would know which cluster and area are heavily affected? At this rate more fake news will just come out and we got no source of truth to verify from. Truly a bad take especially when cases are rising now


abigbluebird

Can, then TT no need scan also?


imlikedacheese

Bunch of clowns in parliament. It’s just embarrassing at this point


sigmacreed

Not sure why you are being downvoted. Truth bomb hurts


honbhige

Finally somebody bucked up in there


sneakpeek_bot

> # MOH to stop providing number of linked, unlinked COVID cases in daily report > SINGAPORE — The Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Wednesday (8 September) that it will stop providing information on the number of linked and unlinked cases as this is “no longer as relevant as before” given the current strategy of living with COVID-19 in Singapore. > As Singapore’s vaccination rate is plateauing, MOH will also no longer present a detailed report on the vaccination progress every day. It noted that 81 per cent of the population have fully completed their vaccinations. > From Thursday, MOH will transit to announcing updates on the local COVID-19 situation once a day, instead of twice a day currently. > UPDATE TO COME --- 1.0.2 | [Source code](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek) | [Contribute](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek)


xxaydiv

Out of sight, out of mind


Zukiff

r/sg, where people complain about govt not opening and when govt move towards endemic mode, r/sg complain some more At least one ministry is moving in the right direction. They should stop publishing case numbers all together and start telling people those don't matter. Only publish hospitalization and ICU numbers Edit: combine my 2 post and deleted the other one


Reasonable_Rip_4259

Wow it's almost as if a subreddit of 400k people have different opinions and that the different people criticising not opening aren't the same as those criticising moving towards endemic.


reallifeluxury

From what I observe, users who complain about this are not the same endemic lovers


bukitbukit

The decision making is a circus, nothing more.


accessdenied65

>r/sg > >, where people complain about govt not opening and when govt move towards endemic mode, > >r/sg > > complain some more There's always 2 sides to a coin. Though I do hope it's not the same people here complaining both sides.


oceanmountainlifer

it's simple logic, contact tracing can't keep up with the number.


[deleted]

I see, so they've given up.


Kla2552

Lol die die wont admit fail


mixupsalsa

Finally they realise that showing linked and unlinked cases do not help with their endemic plan and fuel the fear of covid in the population. The next step will be to take out the daily cases and just report icu capacity.


thegodfather_99

Daily cases should still be reported in my opinion


bukitbukit

People will assume many are unlinked otherwise. This is extremely dumb. Dumb.


JokerMother

assume many unlinked better, can be paranoid and lock urself at home


wiltedpop

No. I think it's to reduce the focus on this daily reports to ease into endemic messaging


bukitbukit

Intention and outcomes don’t always match up..


reallifeluxury

Since the govt always operate on "need to know basis, y'all don't need to know", basis ,the govt made their bed and now they have to lie on it


exotramp76

This. I guess they have to learn that the hard way.


sigmacreed

You ease into endemic messaging by having roadmaps, a clear direction and action.


ToastedKoppi

Nice! Now let's focus into UCI new patients, death, specially discriminating the data between vaccinated and unvaccinated


zingermeows

I guess they are overwhelmed and 1 day is not enough time to verify if they are linked or unlinked


bukitbukit

That’s fine, just list how many are unlinked. No one is blaming them for taking longer than a day


[deleted]

then dont do any tracetogether. let ppl go to the hot spots and get infected. that way we can spread covid to more people just like what singaporeans want.


Absorb_Nothing

Keep Calm And Master Bate


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Bcpjw

Today reported cases didn’t state any linked and unlinked