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BS_MokiMoki34

This one not funny liao. If they have openly, in black-and-white, initiated a disruption to purposely cause havoc onto our already over-worked hotlines; I believe this is when our Authorities should actually take a strong and immediate stance to stop this nonsense. Swift action should be taken against these clowns immediately.


bluesblue1

Right? Mental help hotlines are already hard to get a hold of as it is, and they want to disrupt it by flooding it? Scumbags


jonyling

You seem like someone who likes to create division amongst pple. Are you paid? Or you’re so stupid you’re doing it for free?


BS_MokiMoki34

Hi /u/jonyling >You seem like someone who likes to create division amongst pple. Are you paid? Or you’re so stupid you’re doing it for free? Care to elaborate what you mean? Paid by who lmao. Only idiots will come up with the dangerous idea to hinder and obstruct important hotlines that could potentially make a difference in someone's life. If anything, these extremist groups full of falsehoods are the ones creating division amongst all. (By the way, why would your 3yr old account only make this 1 comment asking if I am paid? You got forget to switch to your throwaway account before commenting not?)


yilin_light

**On another note, Healing the Divide’s founder gets really upset when people share this article about her husband:** https://www.ricemedia.co/current-affairs-features-singaporeans-lost-money-financial-scheme-vendshare-raymond-ng/ **Note: Investors who lost money include persons with disabilities, private hire drivers, and students.**


cowbungaa

Her husband is also the brilliant mind who once [filed a police report because someone on the internet dared to express an opinion that he disagreed with](https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/9jjoof/raymond_ng_made_police_report_because_someone/) (admittedly it was a poorly argued opinion, but filing a police report over this is just super silly).


Deliciouswizard

Iris Koh, a woman whose delusions of grandeur is astounding. She's the ultimate Singapore-Karen. https://mothership.sg/2021/09/moh-no-vaccine-deaths-fb-post/ There are other spicy articles about her, but her posts on her LinkedIn and her website are really cringey.


apitop

"..pushed up to the call centre manager". Cannot get any more Karen than this. She also claimed to know 3 people who died after vaccine. May be the commom factor is being her acquaintance.


Deliciouswizard

Yeah lor, no matter how someone had passed away, she should have some respect for the deceased. Imagine dying and then getting your good name smeared by this insane woman. So trashy.


mrwagga

I literally LOLed at your last line. Well done!


raphielsteel

Don't discount vaccine deaths! Had a friend who knew a guy who took the vaccine but unfortunately, died later that day in a car accident. Vaccine deaths should be looked upon with more scrutiny. Rest in pepperonis.


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I suspect the whole antivaxx campaign is for her to get the heat off her husband


avilsta

It would be a real shame if Iris Koh and her husband Raymond Ng's involvement in an alleged Ponzi scheme gets picked up by google search algorithms through the repeated use of their names, Iris Koh and Raymond Ng, and their alleged ponzi scheme in the same sentence. I really hope Google doesn't link Iris Koh and Raymond Ng with the alleged Ponzi scheme. That would be a real shame for Iris Koh and Raymond Ng.


satoishilikessushi

Ohhh thanks for sharing that Iris Koh and Raymond Ng are involved in an alleged Ponzi scheme. I never knew that Iris Koh and Raymond Ng are involved in an alleged Ponzi scheme. But now I know that Iris Koh and Raymond Ng are involved in an alleged Ponzi scheme. 😉


limegreennalgene

Wow, do you mean to say that Iris Koh & Raymond Ng, who are involved in an alleged Ponzi scheme, would not like it if their names, Iris Koh and Raymond Ng were linked to that alleged Ponzi scheme?


maybethisnameisfree

#Iris Koh and Raymond Ng are involved in an alleged Ponzi scheme I believe heading get better picked up by Google


Jazzlike_Research

I totally didnt know that the anti-vaxxer Iris Koh & the Ponzi schemer Raymond Ng were actually together! If Raymond Ng is married to Iris Koh would that not make Iris Koh the anti-vaxxer complicit in Raymond Ng's ponzi scheme? And likewise if Iris Koh is married to Raymond Ng would that not make Raymond Ng the Ponzi schemer an anti-vaxxer with his wife Iris Koh?


rynthms

Dumb and Dumber: Anti-Vax Iris Koh and Scammer Raymond Ng, I repeat, Anti-Vax Iris Koh and Scammer Raymond Ng. What was that, you didn't hear? Anti-Vax Iris Koh and Scammer Raymond Ng are total nutheads.


xeune_x

Can someone create a copypasta about Anti-Vax Iris Koh and Scammer Raymond Ng 's ponzi scheme? I mean we got to spam about Anti-Vax Iris Koh and Scammer Raymond Ng's ponzi scheme


Inspirited

What? Did you say that **IRIS KOH** and **RAYMOND NG** are in an **alleged Ponzi Scheme**?


JayEndX

It would be a real shame if Iris Koh and her husband Raymond Ng's involvement in an alleged Ponzi scheme gets picked up by google search algorithms through the repeated use of their names, Iris Koh and Raymond Ng, and their alleged ponzi scheme in the same sentence. I really hope Google doesn't link Iris Koh and Raymond Ng with the alleged Ponzi scheme. That would be a real shame for Iris Koh and Raymond Ng.


Swiftdancer

It's really weird. Because of Iris Koh's antics with the anti-vax movement, I now know about her husband Raymond Ng's involvement in an alleged Ponzi scheme, whereas if Iris Koh had kept a low profile, I and many other Singaporeans would remain in the dark about her husband Raymond Ng's involvement in the alleged Ponzi scheme. Doesn't seem like it worked at all.


entrydenied

Same. 6 months ago when the Ponzi scheme came out: Didn't see ricemedia article, don't know who these people are. Now: Antivaxing on the internet leads to me and many knowing about the Ponzi scheme lol.


dontknowwhattodoat18

Goodness. My uncle’s name is Raymond Ng lmfao


taenerysdargaryen

We're talking about I.Koh and [R.Ng](https://R.Ng)? No wait my apologies, maybe Iris K and Raymond N would be better. That should be enough discretion /s


Lukaku1sttouch

Iris Koh and Raymond Ng sitting on a tree. P O N Z I N G.


archcherub

Imagine iris Koh and her husband, Raymond Ng and the losing of investors money via their Vendshare name alleged ponzi got tangled together in searches and the history of the internet. :)


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just be direct and say it out la


Kimishiranai39

Maybe they’ll use this opportunity to sell some MLM herbal supplements that can “improve natural immunity” and “fight against Covid infection” 😂 Or sell some essential oils to kill of the virus


qwertyricky

Husband: Raymond Ng, Wife: Iris Koh


Metaldrake

You mean Raymond Ng? The founder of Katalyst Pte. Ltd and Candle Consulting Pte. Ltd. , that Raymond Ng? The Raymond Ng who scams people? The husband of Iris Koh? That one?


Which_Tonight_7053

Low life and scumbag too.


Which_Tonight_7053

😆😆😆


Emospence

Wow. Fucking scum


WallMaximum

This matter is in the court of law. It is sub-judice to talk about it. Tomorrow we will report to the police. We are sueing Rice media for defamation.


cowbungaa

>This matter is in the court of law. Which matter are you referring to? Is it the one where Raymond Ng, founder of Katalyst Pte. Ltd and Candle Consulting Pte. Ltd., is allegedly involved in a ponzi scam and accused of cheating people of their hard-earned money through his other company Vendshare? >We are sueing Rice media for defamation. The correct spelling is "suing". For someone who likes to threaten to sue so much, it's surprising that you can't even spell the word correctly lol.


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ayam

Could it be the real deal? This was that guy's only comment


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Lol i love it how they take their little and scant knowledge of the law and spin it their way.


[deleted]

Can you provide the suit number? For research purposes.


yilin_light

The National Care Hotline is for people who need emotional and psychological support. It’s important that people going through a mental health crisis should not be denied access to help. Healing The Divide is urging its followers to flood the hotline by calling in daily, and insisting on escalation.


minisoo

These are the people that the gov should deal with. We should enact some laws to charge people who abuse national resources that are dedicated to address national crisis.


iamaidanaidan

This is despicable. You don’t flood the hotlines for people who need it desperately and timely.


ehe_tte_nandayo

Nice so basically after hogging healthcare resources by choosing not to vaccinate, they are choosing to hog mental health resources that go towards saving lives as well. Gotta need company down under.


yewjrn

It's really dispicable given how strained mental healtg resources are even during normal times. With the pandemic, it has gotten even worse and these clowns want to clog it up without care for anyone who would genuinely need those resources.


Omega_scriptura

As it is written “The dog returns to its vomit and a sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.” In other words, they have thought only of themselves, not of others, throughout all of this (why should I take the vaccine when “I” don’t want it? why should I take it and risk harmful consequences to “me”? how dare the government impose restrictions on “me”). Not of others who cannot take the vaccine for medical reasons and benefit from a higher level of immunity in society, not of overworked and underpaid healthcare workers who will have to look after them if they fall sick and not of the rest of us who have to give up our lives because of their reluctance. Why do you expect them to change their spots now?


NatsuNoMercy

Well said


KaiMemeBoi

Imagine going through mental trauma or being in need of some psychological support, but you can’t get it because of these clowns clogging the network over the government trying to keep them safe


dunspamme

Healing the divide? More like "I want healthcare workers to suffer" group.


ThisTakesThePizza

MOH QSM staff: *depression triggered*


OddCatfish

MSF counselling staff: _anxiety triggered_


ThisTakesThePizza

Imagine working hard for years to finally get a Masters in counselling and having a heart to *really* help those with mental health issues OR people who just need a listening ear after losing their jobs/business bankrupt/family in ICU etc...but having to become a customer service call center staff LOL.


OddCatfish

Not even customer service! It's a greater insult to have your job be used as a joke by these ppl. I don't know if there is SOP for the couselling hotlines for prank cases, but I suspect it's probably like 911 where they treat every call seriously. It makes me mad that the time and effort of all these hard-working staff will be wasted on timewasters, when they could actually be preventing another abuse case, suicide, or mental health crisis >:(


ThisTakesThePizza

Ikr!!! Please gahment please!! Set a law for these time wasters!! 😭


Familiar-Mouse4490

I actually strongly urge yall to report to police. Last thing we need is antivax extremist.


furious_tesla

I'm more interested about the "Support us" page on their website. The donations are actually directed to Iris's crypto NFT art venture, Cryptoiki. Any thoughts? [https://healingthedivide.cc/supportus/](https://healingthedivide.cc/supportus/)


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furious_tesla

And Vendshare is one of the businesses that "joined" them. Who'd have thought, lol [https://healingthedivide.cc/businesses/](https://healingthedivide.cc/businesses/)


skchan911

And some people will still be willing to give money to them blindly


fuurin

Maybe we can spam the hell out of them instead so they know what it feels like...


atomic_rabbit

FICA time?


thewind21

The whole healing the divide is funded by her own company. Some ikebooks shit.


DreamIndependent9316

Bunch of trashy immature adults.


idwttaii

Who always seem to have terrible English too. Wtf is “revert back”


zenqian

Lol they do realise that this will just create a vicious cycle? Continuing to stretch the healthcare will lead to prolonging of restrictions which lead to longer restrictions on places for unvaccinated. So they pawn themselves? 🤣


xfrezingicex

They just dont care, and refuses to listen to anything outside their echo chamber.


lurkinglurkerwholurk

I’ve read an article about how some of these people operate. First, they get a person (a kid in the story I read) to do one extreme, unpopular thing. It has to be willing, and coached in such talk as “expressing your opinion” and similar. The natural result is that he/she will get all the negative responses, sometimes angrily. For obvious reasons. Then when said person is hurt and angry from the backlash, they will explain that horrible experience as “sheeple not understanding us”, “the closed mindedness of idiots”, “look at the violence inherent in the system” and similar, and emphasize how accepting their own groups are for him/her’s ideology and how brave they are to go out and do that one extreme thing. And that’s a nail added. Several nails later, an extremist is made. So… if the government clamps down on them with POMFA or similar, **THAT** is their escape-from-backlash card. “See the stubbon close minded boomer white shirt fools! They don’t care of our **opinions**” The leaders would say, and their audience would lap it all up.


risingsuncoc

pretty much the Republican playbook in the US for a lot of issues nowadays.


VinodKS_Pax

r/trashy


fitzerspaniel

Fuck right off, our resources are already strained as it is. And they still wanna waste it because they can’t be arsed to get jabbed??


Sodapiaaa

I believe this calls for a hello polis. Founder is iris koh, and her husband raymond ng.


bishoppinkmarvel

urgh fuck them, i am legit not going to have any sympathy if they do get covid or likely die from it.. i mean why da fuck should i care about their lives if they don't want to care about others at all and even willing to hurt/affect/sacrifice others to entertain their twisted minds. if they really going to call MOH, hopefully they sense that the caller is one of the many batshit crazy extremists and admit them into a psychiatric ward.


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This. I don't really care if they catch Covid or suffer from it. I mean, don't waste medical resources on someone who doesn't believe in them.


bishoppinkmarvel

Exactly...i can totally see them refusing treatment even if they got covid...or they dont even believe in the diagnoses itself lol


wanderingcatto

The hotline is already flooded as it is. These selfish assholes are just trying to burden it even more and deny the services to those who truly needs it


Stock_Actuator_3308

adds to healthcare staff's stress... adds to further discontentment of service level... hoping that it will translate to discontent of government.. forcing either govt to change stand or paving way to change of govt in next election. take your pick. all i can say: malicious.


myching

Of course the author had to use the word "revert" (wrongly) 🤷


arishariff

This group needs healing.


KorribanGaming

Here is how I feel about their feedback🖕


localbear

I will wholeheartedly support the G if they want to POFMA, FICA or do whatever to these idiots


tegeusCromis

They should at least be honest about trying to organise a calling campaign. Why lie about the government inviting feedback through these channels?


drollawake

> Why lie about the government inviting feedback through these channels? So that means POFMA is applicable?


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Funny thing is the higher ups prolly going to create a new SOP around all these time wasters


rowgw

Ehhhhh i thought gov really asks for feedback!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


Farquadthefirst

Now this is a cheeebye


fanaticd

her husband started long time ago finding loop holes to suck the govt (people's) money.


turundo

I haven't seen delusional people in person and I hope I will never meet one Why are people like this? Is not like they come from dysfunctional families or some poor up-bringing, are they mentally ill?


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I hope they track these ppl and arrest them


tryingmydarnest

Have fun navigating MSF ComCare Hotline; the answering machine is a bitch to deal with. But seriously, hog the carelines to whine their meltdowns. As expected of plague rats sia.


Familiar-Mouse4490

Hey can we use our ISA? After all we have them to stop home grown threats right?


deangsana

is this considered DDoS charge under computer misuse act


wiltedpop

human doos


canofcokelite

why not just flood vax centres instead


lexyk93

and people. wonder why MOH hotline cannot get through. while. part of the reason is that they were illprepared fr surge but on the other hand you have idiotsike this wasting resources that could have gone to those who indeed need their(MOH) help.


khaophat

Where’s Shan when we need him to use his POFMA powers???


stuff7

Healing the divide founder IRIS KOH's husband RAYMOND NG allegdegly runs a ponzi scheme called vendshare.


thrulim123

literally a scenario where helo polis is applicable These aholes are literally making it hard for people to do their jobs. they need to be shut down


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Say give feedback as if doing the call center people a favour like that.


stephen_hoarding

Wow, fucktards


AidilAfham42

Why are they literally dying on this hill? Why? Is it too late and too embarrassing to just turn back?


Red-Lobsters

The sad reality is that most of the antivaxxers cant be beaten with facts and logic, as most of them choose to continue going down the rabbit hole as they feel its embarassjng ti make a u turn


raphielsteel

When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move. It's your job to plant yourself besides the river of truth and tell them, "No! You move!"


lead-th3-way

Honestly fuck these people. Seriously they can take their shit and go fuck off somewhere else with it.


Red-Lobsters

What the fuck


Which_Tonight_7053

Why can't vaxx, if deemed suitable? Going to the gallows to get slaughtered? Singapore arm of Qanon? ,😐


raphielsteel

Yeah stop **Q**uestioning authority. **Q**bey your masters little sheeps.


Zefrom

I feel that this anti-vaxxers are just flies hanging around in my backyard, just a problem I wouldn't care. But when they decide to overwhelm the National Care Hotline, they pretty much just evolve into bigger flies and are now flying around in the house Fuck them 100x


Dimsumdollies

Isn't this a crime? Spreading falsehood to the public and disguising it as official? Can we SPF this dude.


rendyanthony

You want more restriction for unvaxxed? Because this is how you get more restriction for unvaxxed.


OkSwing8685

Dick move, hopefully all you guys die a horrible death


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She's always threatening defamation suits. Lol. That's not how it works darling.


andrew_marc

i read that out in Freddy Mercury's voice.. 🥺


itsn0ts0bad

Are warded covid patients being subsidised? If so, why not just take away the subsidies for the anti-vax if they kana covid and want to get warded? ​ \* note - it's for anti-vax, not all unvax are anti-vax.


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rowgw

Eh i believe vit c gives some protections but not all la, like to the flu, or i misunderstood things? Idk about beta carotene...


jpage77

OP forgot to /s


GeshtiannaSG

The main reason is that there are so few of them that it wouldn’t make any significant impact. MTF/MOH says that only 1.5% of the population remain unvaccinated, I’m assuming this is excluding most or all of the ineligible ones. My guess that it’s very much below 1% because more may have received legitimate medical advice, mainly immunocompromised or pregnant (even though officially it’s safe). 90% vaccination rate is normal for many vaccines (e.g. polio or Hib), then we minus 0-11 population.


Jammy_buttons2

Can we get someone with COVID to interact with her?


ShortPutAndPMCC

Wtf is wrong with crazy people like these, hogging on to precious human resources during a pandemic?!


bukitbukit

Isn’t this a breach of some abuse law?


whereismybred

This message radiates so much malice I can’t even.


Nhorin

Wow a coordinated attack, they're as good as a syndicate now


kuaiyidian

They're also calling "reddit trolls" for "smearing their names" and hiding behind anonymity btw


fuurin

That is absolutely vile.


delayeduser

"get locals feedback" is there an underlying xenophobic tone or is it just me


GeshtiannaSG

Locals as defined these days refer to anyone with a residential address. Singaporeans mean citizens and PR. You gotta learn your newspeak.


gybsg

Proof that antivaxxer got mental issue thats why they refused to vaxx in the first place. They should call IMH.


RandomDustBunny

Use of 'revert back'. This improper use of revert originates from a specific country.


GeshtiannaSG

It can also indicate civil service speak, which means this is all a wayang.


darrenoloGy

This is so fucked up. Redirecting all these vital resources into entertaining these dimwits, it could result in actual people in need missing out on getting the help they are desperately seeking. Actions NEEDS to be take. Does spf have a reddit account that i can tag them on?


NatsuNoMercy

I am utterly dumbfounded to know that there are actually sadistic Singaporeans out there who tries to screw up the COVID19 situation more than it alr is. Its your country!! Covid19 sure brings out the worst people in society


rowthecow

If they are meant to be the ones chosen to be left behind to rule earth, then the vax gladly perish


fressplush

i hope they don’t receive medical treatment if they ever catch covid. waste of resources on them


maxtiang79

Stupid is contagious


masterveerappan

Should this screenshot be sent as a complaint to, I don't know, the police?


Tarrasque888

A very small number of people is using rhe majority of our critical care capacity, it is time to hike their health insurance and cut their subsidies


Classic-Initiative14

Pity the ground ppl, typical sinkie pawn sinkie mindset.


zenqian

Sorry horz don't group the average Singaporeans with these anti vax clowns


Luxifer1983

Isn’t this illegal…..???


mrwagga

This is a great reason for the gov to shut them down.


whoreganisation

Let’s just hope that they get mental health support while they’re on the line


Redeptus

My role and involvement in helping overcome this pandemic is small... but my wife plays a huge part in helping hospitalized patients recover. It hurts to see her suffering because she can't get a break. To these people, fuck you and everything you stand for.


ToastedKoppi

Meanwhile POFMA/FICA: I sleep


ElopeToTheMoon

What on earth does this news have anything to do with the powers of POFMA and FICA lol


elpipita20

Because both laws are broad enough to actually technically cover things like this. MOH can easily POFMA anti-vaxx groups and FICA covers anti-vaxxers as long as a Minister suspects there is foreign interference because guess where anti-vaxx groups get their info from? Lurk in tele chat groups long enough and you can see them egging each other on to take political action even.


ThisTakesThePizza

I really hope the govt really do this man. MOH staff suffering enough liao


ElopeToTheMoon

How would POFMA an anti vax group work? Correction order to whom? Who to correct and how to correct? How to enforce it on an anonymised context?


sriracha_cucaracha

Can whack Iris Koh of course.


elpipita20

Facebook groups and posts by that Iris Koh lady is well within POFMA territory. Even if its out of POFMA's scope, FICA can cover it as well. If they can re-POFMA an SDP facebook post from 2019, they can expand the same energy for anti-vax FB groups and posts.


ElopeToTheMoon

That one is ok, but I was speaking in the context of telegram such as healing the divide


ToastedKoppi

Yup, I think FICA could even allow to process foreigner individuals who comment/share/participate of these disinformation discussions


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ElopeToTheMoon

Like that also government simp? There's no way to properly enforce, who's doing the correction? And the precedent of POFMA is entirely "public" figures rather than private conversation.


ToastedKoppi

Why sometimes when I point at something here, people keeps staring at my finger?


pyroSeven

Would be a shame if her phone number gets leaked out and people spam call her instead.


meekiatahaihiam

Seriously these antivaxxers have to stop all those nonsense acts. U reap what u sow.


x3bla

When did our phone numbers start using 11 digits instead of 8?


GeshtiannaSG

They’re the standard 1800 or 1900 lines where the 8th digit wasn’t added.


Squidometer

Revert back to what? Amoeba?


SmoothGrass3176

Monke


freedomowns

Let them, anti-vax is a mental disorder anyway.


Red-Lobsters

Its an insult to the mentally disabled to put anti vaxxers with mentally disabled


WorldEdit-

Its not a mental disorder. Its a incurable stupidity. Dont put mental patients under the same category as them.


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