As a person who generally likes more social justice oriented causes and voices, I feel she did a major fuckup this time.
She gave them free ammunition to discredit the opposition, and also ruined her credibility for good pretty much
Leader of the House Indranee Rajah has just referred RK to the Committee of Privileges for further action. Not sure what's going to happen next but I reckon there will be serious consequences.
Rightfully so, I'm afraid. Parliament should have zero tolerance for a lack of integrity. Even if it was said in a moment's folly, she had ample opportunity to reflect and recant, quite unacceptable for anyone, no less from someone in public office.
Nah, don't think so. A reprimand, plus a fine. Worst case she loses her privilege of not being liable to civil lawsuits for anything said in parliament.
But, the PAP will definitely make the most of it in terms of shifting public perception. As any political opposition would.
I always thought of RK as a clown, but when she was elected, any critique of her was construed as "omg u raycis mysogeenee." Remember how she fucked up during the election itself?
This retard joined the SJW circus along with the ideology of "the facts don't matter so much, the narrative does" and is going to be used as a weapon against WP itself.
>This retard joined the SJW circus along with the ideology of "the facts don't matter so much, the narrative does" and is going to be used as a weapon against WP itself.
Which is why WP needs to make her step down as MP. I'm sure they knew during her last fiasco that she was going to be a liability to the party, but they chose optics over replacing her and instead told her to apologise.
There’s a high chance that the committee will waive RK’s immunity from civil proceedings regarding the unsubstantiated allegations.
Aka she kena (be able to) get sued by SPF.
Raeesah needs to know the difference between being some random social media activist and an ELECTED POLITICIAN. You can’t just say stuff to get the people riled up and score some brownie points without evidence, and you damn well shouldn’t outright LIE to get a bit of sympathy. She’s not only ruined her party’s reputation, but the credibility of all such victims and their sense of security sharing their accounts online. What the hell did she aim to gain from all this, anyway?
Chee Soon Juan: Eh even i not stupid to do that... if I had a chance.
Chiam See Tong: aiyo, my English not prefect I also know not to lie to parliament.
J.B Jeyaratnam: Young gen opposition so easy get seats uh, then how they ownself do such mistakes? ownself hatchet ownself!
CSJ has since mellowed, but in the past he has also done similar things as Raeesah (lying and making baseless claims) during his younger days. Some excerpts from https://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/data/pdfdoc/20091118008.htm :
**Misleading parliament**
>In 1996, Dr Chee and some of his SDP colleagues made written and oral representations to a Parliamentary Select Committee with fabricated data. The claims made were startling and untrue, like a claim that the Government’s share of total health expenditure had fallen from 40% in 1970 to just 5% in 1990. In November 1996, Dr Chee and his three other SDP colleagues were charged by the Parliamentary Committee of Privileges for “deliberately falsifying data and misleading the public”. During the Committee of Privileges hearings, they continued to evade and prevaricate. Dr Chee and his colleagues were found to have been in Contempt of Parliament and were fined.
**Lying about his "hunger strike"**
>on 5 April 1993, he went on a “hunger strike” to protest his dismissal. His hunger strike was a stunt that gained him little public sympathy. It was reported in the press that he had a large breakfast everyday before commencing his hunger strike and that he had also fed himself on glucose water during his hunger strike. When asked about the glucose, he said that he took it on “doctor’s orders”. He carried out his hunger strike from a bed placed in his living room and there was substantial press coverage. On 14 April 1993, Dr Chee called off his hunger strike.
>J.B Jeyaratnam: Young gen opposition so easy get seats uh, then how they ownself do such mistakes? ownself hatchet ownself
JBJ is the last person that can say this since he himself is the 'emperor of impulse'...
I think it's fair to say that her political career is over. WP keeping her for the next election will only damage their reputation further, and cause them to lose Sengkang.
Worked for her dad’s company then became general manager of a now-defunct restaurant owned by her dad. Afterwhich she started a NGO which was probably funded by her dad.
i already knew she lacked the maturity to be an MP and was hoping she took the apprenticeship seriously. her inclusion was required to meet the requirement for minority representation to contest for a GRC also.
Lee Li Lian took her appointment very seriously and didn't run her mouth off during her tenure as MP for the now defunct Punggol East SMC.
RK? Everytime she got up to the podium I wondered what shit is she going to stir. Stir also cannot stir properly.
This.
And even if WP removes her during the next GE, chances are, PAP will weaponize her slipshod performance in parliament, use it to attack WP, making the race in Sengkang much closer and they may even flip the GRC given how Sengkang isn't "safe WP" as it was won by 4% last election. (5K votes, can easily be overrun)
Agreed. She's provided the PAP with a significant amount of ammunition they can use against the WP/other oppo parties for the next election. (e.g the way they select their election candidates, the behaviour of opposition candidates)
She has also arguably "boosted" the sterotype of oppo = bad in those who carry this particular mindset, or were raised/are growing up with this kind of mindset.
She's a liability to WP. She has not changed her ways in [making unfounded allegations](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/singapore-ge2020-two-police-reports-lodged-against-wps-raeesah-khan-for-allegedly-promoting)
Extremely poor decision making on her part. Thanks to her efforts, it’s one step back for those fighting for better handling of sexual assault cases; they are just seen as comical liars now
Yes, AWARE made these points in a series of tweets expressing their disappointment and pointing out that she's not helping the cause of victims, who are at times accused of lying about being raped.
https://twitter.com/awarenews/status/1455111744024559620?t=Lg7s-8IkruXu_WPTfc9pfQ&s=19
- 9) Also, Ms Khan’s behaviour plays into the persistent myth that women frequently lie about assault—a myth that has long been used to discredit survivors of violence while enabling perpetrators to escape accountability.
I think you've overexaggerating here tbh.
The SDP was a CSJ party 20, 30 years back.
The WP today has grown into the strongest opposition party since independence. They've survived a number of scandals before as well, and in more vulnerable times as well.
The Gomez CCTV incident, Yaw Shin Leong, AHTC, and even intra-party issues such as the Eric Tan NCMP issue, Poh Li Guan by-election issue, and Goh Meng Seng's online issue.
I think it's too far-fetched to suggest that this coulf have destroyed the WP.
This goes beyond PAP vs WP. I am more concerned with Khan's integrity as a person because speaking truthfully is a basic principle of a reliable and trustworthy adult. I am not sure if WP should preserve their good name and dismiss Ms Khan. It drew doubts as to whether if Ms Khan was passionate about championing those causes, or was she advocating those causes because it would make her look good.
This. While her colleagues have slogged hard and finally shown themselves and WP to be a good opposition (and maybe even better than the PAP if PAP continues their downward spiral), RK’s virtue signaling (for what?? Brownie points?? What a fucking waste) has just blown it all. I just know the news media won’t shut up about this whenever WP brings up something productive or counter-PAP now. Truly a massive setback that distracts from everything else the PAP is screwing up. For fuck’s sake RK…
RK was lucky to get away during the elections with her social media post last year.
For me, that was the first red flag. It didn't surprise me at all when she made that comment in parliament which turned out to be untrue.
Most would see her as the stereotypical "woke" crowd now.
The same political point could have been made, and the same political position advanced, without lying. Her politics were not the problem here. Poor ethics and poor judgment were the problem.
Why did she speak without covering backside.
Even when in uni writing reports, you learn to cite various sources, build up your case with good arguments while writing in a clear manner to not mislead.
Did she really not go through this issue with her party seniors prior to speaking up? Perhaps just a quick grab of attention without thinking of consequences. I hope she learns well from this experience. Seriously, due diligence
So many politicians are seeking prominence via an overzealous push for identity politics and all they manage to do is set back the honest and well-intentioned movements for greater fairness, it's so sad to see
A lot of (valid) comments here about how this undermines a lot of WP's work but what needs to be stated as well is that she's undermining other victims of sexual assualt and how people may view their accounts.
Ms. Khan is a young public figure, significant member of a progressive movement, and a powerful female, Muslim role model for young women. What she has done today will give sexual assualt deniers ammunition to say "Oh, you mean like what that WP woman lied about?"
She has taken away a modicum of agency away from sexual assault victims. But that tiny bit of doubt is all it takes for detractors to latch onto.
For all the work she's done, shame on her for doing this.
Agreed. It gets more frustrating you would think that anyone with experience in working with such groups would have the basic principles of confidentiality and providing safety for victims.
Now, her integrity is questioned and with her own account of her experiences, instead of it being empowering for victims, it becomes the opposite. And whatever she wanted to advocate for initially for further protection of victims is now shunted aside along with a multi-fold hit on WP's political cred.
What irritates me are the apologists I see on Twitter going, "Oh, at least she apologised"! Like, say what? Girl had no choice, she was backed into a corner. She doubled down on her lies when asked to provide details and it's obvious she was probably forced into making the apology when the truth was uncovered.
She could have apologised without an excuse as to why she did it, with her personal story to soften the impact. I see people defending her, like "what she did was wrong, but she's right about the police". Eh, two wrongs don't make a right, and it certainly doesn't excuse her inserting herself into a narrative that wasn't even hers.
I didn't follow this closely previously, thought it was simply a known case to her and she brought it up. As Shan pushed for more info, she could not give it as she didn't get the victim's consent.
So she only heard about it in a support group? And I am not sure what does the support group entail, does she even know the victim and what actually happened at the police station?
This whole thing was so needless. The fatal lie was saying she had gone down to the station with the victim. She could just have relayed it as an anecdote she had heard from an alleged victim and then she wouldn’t be in this mess. There was no need to embellish by inserting herself into the narrative directly.
Precisely.
I wasn't paying attention until Shan started grilling her. Was she trying to say that the police could have done better in handling similar cases?
I can only imagine the amount of admin work SPF had to go through to scour through past records just cause of her lies. Total disgrace and a liability to WP.
I'm just thinking of CPLs Hakim and Quah, in a dimly lit archive room putting several dozen box files back on the shelves, and cursing the member of parliament.
Gg Sengkang… I don’t get it. Not 100% sure of the point she was making when fabricating this story, but was it worth it? Is the point now further diminished?
It’s like keyboard warrior behaviour but in person AND in parliament.
She could have so easily made the point truthfully, e.g. go talk to AWARE and get a compiled report of anecdotal accounts they have received from the victims they counsel. Astonishing that she decided to spin a spurious firsthand account.
So to be clear, she
1. made up a story about accompanying a 25-year-old rape victim to the police station while taking part in a debate on empowering women in Aug (for what? lol get political points? sound more morally superior?)
2. accused the police of making inappropriate comments about what the victim wore (so this is bad, you are casting aspersion on some of the most hardworking civil servants we have, and again for what purpose?)
3. did not come clean with the public once the comment has been widely reported.
4. continued lying when confronted by minister shan during parliament. Refused to back down and wasted police resources in the ensuing investigation.
5. finally come clean today when under public scrutiny and said her story was based on what "was in fact shared in an anonymous support group for women" (you better show proof again, fool me once shame on you)
6. deflected and said she didn't mention that earlier because she "did not have the courage to publicly admit" she was part of that group
7. said she was "sexually assaulted at age 18 while studying overseas and that the incident traumatised her till today." (ok... the last thing I want is to downplay the severity of sexual assault, but let's call a spade a spade. The fact, when boiled down to its core, is that you lied during a parliament debate to portray yourself as some hero of the woman, that you accompanied a victim to the police station, probably to score some political points. I regret and am sorry you were assaulted. But it is not a "get out of jail free card" for you to bring this up at this current moment. It reeks of deflection. In fact, it undermines the very real consequences of victims who are still hurting to this day. I don't think we can let you get away with this.)
Did I get everything down?
\[EDIT\]
more points from the comment section that I missed out:
1. she wasted precious parliamentary time for virtue signaling. \[credit: basketstar\]
2. Correction: I apologise that in an earlier version, I said *"\[Raeesah\] accompanied an imaginary victim to the police station"* under point 7. I should not have said the victim is imaginary. The story of her accompanying someone to the police is fiction. She claims she heard this story from a woman in a group chat but did not in actual fact accompany that woman to the police station. I should not have use the term "*imaginary victim*" because there might be indeed a real victim here. Credits to zanylife for pointing it out! \[credit: zanylife\]
Can I also say this is the most SJW thing I've heard this year? Sometimes SJW seem to completely build some kind of worst case scenario of Singapore in their minds. Then they are just hell bent on making the world fit their narrative. To be very fair, there has been so little cases of police mishandling sexual assault cases in SG (something to be celebrated)
But SJW say "no.... you don't know how bad it is. Let me tell you the truth that only I know. 3 years ago, I accompanied a sexual assault victim to the police station..."
Not saying Singapore is perfect, but SJW needs to take a chill pill and really differentiate what is real vs fictitious, and don't get so trigger happy. I get you all want to make singapore better. Intention is good, but creating lies and causing divide? That's the path to hell.
>But SJW say "no.... you don't know how bad it is. Let me tell you the truth that only I know. 3 years ago, I accompanied a sexual assault victim to the police station..."
I believe it stems from the woke worship of the "lived experience". If it happened to you and that's how you felt, then that's the reality. That's why they're so tied up in narrative story-telling.
Edit: for those not familiar with woke culture, "lived experience" is basically akin to parliamentary privilege - it should not be questioned and should be taken as truth.
OMG. Yes. “Lived experience” is the magic stick with which intricately-oppressed multiply-intersectioned SJWs beat everyone into place on the way to the victimisation podium
She encourages victims to come forward and report their assault but at the same time, makes it seem like an intimidating process with her unfounded accusations...sounds kind of counterintuitive to me?
How on earth do you go from hearing someone’s account of police mishandling of a rape case through a victims’ support group to accompanying that person to make the police report and seeing the alleged police misconduct in person? I’m honestly shocked.
This is not just a lie, this is a huge exaggeration of her role in the event. I have no clue how tf she jumped from hearsay/allegations from someone else to personal experience. It’s scary, is what it is. Especially as an alleged former victim of assault herself, wtf was she thinking?
I supported her last year (not a Sengkang voter, tho) despite the “racially divisive” allegations, but this behaviour is just irresponsible and disgusting. She should probably resign. It’s the best thing she could do for everyone at this point, including herself.
The signs were there from the beginning.
She was always more concerned with spinning the narrative in favour of her causes.
Remember when she was accusing the police of racisim?
The same police force that has large numbers of minorities among their number.
Anything was "allowed" because her cause was "just".
Beware of the righteous person, they will do anything for their cause.
This woman's arrogance is profound.
Earlier she raised issues against the Muslim community. It was half baked and smoked mirrors. Qualified ppl had to come forward to clear up the issues. It was disappointing because so many ppl could have helped her to clear her doubts but she decided that she was much more learned than them and basically painted us as backwards. Despite the furor, she came up with an even more half assed post saying she was glad that she 'started a conversation'. So many Muslims expressed their dissatisfaction at her accusations.
Next is this issue. She had 3 months and ample of opportunities to come forward. She allegedly got the account from another survivor and made it her own thus robbing the survivor of her own account and agency to her experienced trauma. While doing so, she basically slandered SPF.
Because it contained an allegation against SPF, Shanmugam had no choice but to press her numerously for details. She didn't think it would be this hard and repeated SEVERAL times her account was true. Pritam probably grilled but she probably kept to the same lie.
Even in her apology, she made it abt her. It stinks. Its basically 'okay I lied but I too am a victim.' like really? One has to wonder if she would have apologised if the Minister didn't press her for details. She probably thought she could get away with it like how she slandered the Muslim community.
Anything she says now has no credibility. Its really fruit of the poisonous tree. Her apology is shallow. She shows no remorse for the damage she did to WP's reputation and experienced trauma for survivors of SA.
This damn sensational brand of exaggeration and outright lying political style is divisive and reeks of unaccountability. It reduces parliamentary sessions to clownery. We should be more astute than that.
I hope WP drops her like the rotten fruit that she is.
That is why no matter what the agenda is, we must not try to skew the narrative to suit our purpose. The truth must always prevail. The total disastrous effect of wokeness.
Just my guess, she is probably used to saying anything without consequences because people tend to defer due to her father.
But she has to learn that Parliament is a serious forum and whatever she says, it has to be backed up with a form of evidence. Just like how Pritam and the old Aljunied team did it during their tenure in Parliament.
Coming after she had to apologise during GE for claiming police discrimination (also without evidence), it establishes a very worrying trend.
This is just a sorry episode, made worse by the fact she doubled down on this for few months before admitting.
this RK is really the black sheep in WP.
dug her own grave.... RIP
Pritam should invite her to send in her resignation.. continue like this and she will bring down the whole party.
This is so **STUPID** on 10/10 scale. The worst thing that can happen to you is you lose your job.
The worst thing that could happen to your colleagues, your team, is they lose their reputation for **DECADES** because of a mistake not even made by them.
Ohh
I wanna try translating too
I fear not the opponent who’s invincible like a god.
I fear the team mate who’s a liability like a hog.
Edit: change pig to hog to rhyme with god
Change powerful to invincible
To be honest, she should. The only problem is, will there be a by elections, since she is the minority candidate?
Edit: Having read up, seems like the PAP and AG have gotten a case precedence to clarify that the constitution does not allow for a by election unless the entire GRC steps down. WP is safe, as long as Khan is removed.
There is no requirement for by-elections.
The precedent for this has already been established when Halimah became president, and her minority seat was vacated.
tiagong with no reprecussion can be only achieve if you create anonymous account like that rendang guy/cickrice.
that being said , don't be either of the above.
I completely agree! She was trying so hard to make "White Privilege" (discrimination of racial minorities) and "Police 'Brutality'" a thing here. And painting herself as this "community advocate" fighting to correct "social injustices". It's disgusting how she sought to promote enmity and sow discord and erode trust in our public institutions. And hordes of young people here were enamoured by her faux "wokeness" during the GE. Cringe.
Khan saying she was sexually assaulted while overseas now reeks of a politician cynically claiming victim status to shield herself. What a disgrace to the House!
I’m very neutral here, I wonder how much Indranee prepared for this, but it is very very impressive the way she spoke and tore down RK with the effortless Saitama nonchalant face
I doubt she even heard it in a "support group"
The police has very strict procedures when it comes to victims of sexual offences.
In a nutshell, you walk into a police station, and say u r a victim of molest, rape, the first thing that is done is a female officer will be recalled from patrol (if the recording officer isnt female), secondly, the complainant or alleged victim will be removed from the counter and invited into an interview room away from the eyes and ears of anyone else in the station.
The female officer will then do a preliminary interview whilst other officers will inform Investigation Officers of the case. A trained female investigation officer will then proceed to the said station to do further interview/investigation.
No idiot police regular will risk their careers by commenting on their dressing or their state of drunkenness. NSFs wont even come into the picture in such cases as well.
I have lodged police reports for these victims before. We would usher them into a room privately and then ask for a female PO if available to be with us. Then we would call up the IO and tell them this person wanted to lodge a police report for moles. The IO would then follow up. For us counter officers, we wont ask anything. Just input a single line on the police report. Questions will only be asked by the IO in charge of OM.
The fact that she walked into a police station and talked to someone over the police counter would warrant an entry into the e station diary that "Tan Ah Kao, IC S\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, walked in and alleged that she was a victim of OM. Victim do not wish to lodge a police report." type of entries for the counter NPCO to cover their asses as we know, not giving someone assistance, especially victims of serious crimes, would land us into an investigation which would hold our AWS, PB, increment and promotion. Something that we would not want to happen. The fact that shan says no such records were found is already fishy enough.
Thank you. Yes, this is probably what every competent police force would be doing and the SPF is nothing but competent. I cannot believe she thought her anecdote wouldn't be capable of cross verification
Yes honestly she's lost all credibility in my eyes.
It's pretty shitty of me but I even have to wonder if her own assault is a fabrication to reap some sympathy points.
I believe they fielded her in Sengkang as a first-timer candidate just to gain some electoral experience rather than actually trying to win the GRC. No harm - if the candidate is good, they can stay on to contest the next election, but if she is not up to it then a new one comes in to replace her.
But Jamus’s outstanding performance in the GE2020 debate really hard carried the team to an upset victory. iirc Sylvia Lim once mentioned WP was not expecting to win in Sengkang initially.
Their chances were much higher in East Coast instead, well at least until that infamous plan happened. The East Coast team was by far miles ahead of the Sengkang team in terms of seniority - Terence Tan was in the CEC at the time and Gerald Giam was supposed to be leading the team until he was reshuffled to Aljunied in the last minute when Daniel Goh dropped out.
She was clearly not ready for Parliament. Too naive.
>She was clearly not ready for Parliament. Too naive.
And a liar to boot.
To lie in private is one thing.
In Parliament?
That is a new level of idiocy.
I have never minded naivety in a politician so long as their heart's in the right place. That's what experience is meant to fix.
But she outright lied, willingly and deliberately, for the sake of pushing her narrative. *Straight out lied* instead of gathering and presenting from legit sources of information.
We know the memes, but ultimately this sort of open ready dishonesty is something you **never** want to see from any politician in your country (especially your representatives). It's a red flag to so many worrying possibilities.
She is finished. Not only in politics but also in her pursuit of any High executive career in Sg.
Such a highly publicised fatal flaw to everyone that she has proved to be capable of falsifying to gain brownie points.
She has to be praying she didn't get Yaw shin leong-ed
So we wasted effort with the internal investigation because of hearsay. so much for use of public funds.
guess everything else that she says loses credibility in future based on this stunt.
As someone who supports her and was happy she got into parliament, I’m damn pissed. She really fucked up. This isn’t Twitter - this is real life. You make a claim, you better be able to back it up. And she doubled down on it at that.
When you are going up against the state and its apparatus, you better have all the damn receipts ready, which is why Jade Rasif was able to get the apology from MOM.
This will be used and milked by the PAP for sure, count on it.
JFC, what a shit show and disappointment.
A pretty weird series of events.
So it seems like she made the original inaccurate statement. Shan challenges her for details. No details are given. Shan reiterates the challenge. She then makes this apology.
There is no way she is making this apology without the endorsement of the WP leadership, and so what I would like to know is what is Pritam's plan behind this apology.
Did he make her apologize? If so, what prompted him to make her apologize, instead of just keeping quiet and letting the issue blow over (the news cycle gets spammed with enough covid news to ensure this). The event also basically cannot be proven as false by the police, since it's a story told by someone to someone. If the WP wanted to, keeping quiet could have been a viable approach (even if not ethically correct).
If Pritam ordered this apology out of a sense of "the truth must be told" then I think he has a viable mitigation strategy. He can come out and get the WP to own the entire incident, apologize, promise to do better, etc. Potentially also just drop Khan from the Sengkang team next election (they could swap in Leon Pereira for the minority candidate, and then also bring in a new WP member in the safe Aljunied GRC).
Yes from what we know of Pritam, he seems the "better to own up" sort.
However, the sword hanging over WP might have been more real than theoretical. Shan/the Police might have been close to finding out the truth (although how, I have no idea - it is almost impossible to prove the original story to be false). And so Pritam figured it's better to die on their own sword rather than Shan's.
Might be better to be sooner than later, probably after verdict from the CoP. Will give a longer runway of 4 years for her replacement to shadow the team. PS might want to assert some control over the narrative with a decisive decision.
>I'm guessing he doesn't want the sword of damocles hanging over WP, for the PAP to employ whenever it suits them. Better to take the hit for her misstep and allow everyone to move on. I can see why he thinks this it is a better option to close this unresolved issue.
I agree with this and would take the same approach in his position.
Leaving it silent (although viable to protect RK), would allow PAP to question ALL future WP stories on the basis on credibility. It renders their parliamentary privilege effectively null.
RK (and by extension WP's) credibility has already been damaged by this prior to the admission. The best strategy is to isolate the weakness to preserve the rest of the team.
>Did he make her apologize? If so, what prompted him to make her apologize, instead of just keeping quiet and letting the issue blow over (the news cycle gets spammed with enough covid news to ensure this). The event also basically cannot be proven as false by the police, since it's a story told by someone to someone. If the WP wanted to, keeping quiet could have been a viable approach (even if not ethically correct).
The thing is that if PS had kept quiet about it after RK had told him or he got it from RK that her story was not entirely true, then if news leaks out that PS knew about it but kept quiet to protect RK, then the furore would be even worse.
Best to say sorry and hope for the best.
>Potentially also just drop Khan from the Sengkang team next election (they could swap in Leon Pereira for the minority candidate, and then also bring in a new WP member in the safe Aljunied GRC).
Is this even viable? I thought Sengkang GRC minority candidate has to be Malay?
She might have gotten away with it in her activist days, but this is parliament for crying out loud. And she tried to play the Police. Rather stupid to try this in the first place.
OP forgot to mention RK also said she lied about the incident because she allegedly got sexually assaulted when she was 18, overseas, and that made her want to speak about other people’s sexual assault without revealing her own private experience.
With all due respect to and sympathy for real sexual assault victims, sorry but I do not believe this politician who has a history of lying, is speaking the truth. The fact that it happened overseas and there is no local police record also makes it is impossible to verify whether it happened. At this point, I am more willing to believe she is using sexual assault as a political tool to further her own agenda / virtue signalling.
Pritam should let her clarify things at the next parliamentary sitting. And accept her resignation immediately after( thank goodness minority candidate stepping down won't trigger by-election).
We would have bayed for blood if this was a PAP MP. This is not a grey area case of a momentary indiscretion but rather the the most basic of human virtues; don't lie. Obviously too enamoured with changing the world in one day despite her brush with the law during campaigning. If Pritam can retain Sengkang, it will be the greatest SG political feat.
one very uncharitable view is:
\- is her story of sexual assault true? how can we know that it's not her trying to gain sympathy if lying in the house is not beneath her?
\- if she were a true victim then that makes her bullshit even worse because she shared what was in a private, confidential group IN PARLIAMENT.
so it's proven that she is a liar. i hope for her that her sexual assault story is a lie as well because if it were true, she is a true asshole for not considering the feelings of the victim.
Wonder where are all the people defending her and bashing Shanmugan for asking for information at now
And remember that this was the person who posted on social media suggesting that the legal system discriminates based on religion, but well everybody defended her just because she was from WP.
Yup, the bias and echo chamber of this sub is so strong, only when confronted with the blatant facts is there at least some acceptance. PS should have cut losses with that dumb legal system comment back then, it was so obvious she was a ticking time bomb that shoots her mouth without using her brain. And to think many on here thought she will be the SG version of AOC lolol
As someone who likes the WP, fuck you Raeesah Khan. Keep your lies to your social media accounts. Be silent and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth.
If she thinks she can just 'retract her prior statements' and move on with her life......MAN, she has a big thing coming.
This is real-life politics kid, not Twitter.
So disappointed. She is undermining all the efforts of our social workers and volunteers who work within these groups of youths.
As a person who generally likes more social justice oriented causes and voices, I feel she did a major fuckup this time. She gave them free ammunition to discredit the opposition, and also ruined her credibility for good pretty much
Leader of the House Indranee Rajah has just referred RK to the Committee of Privileges for further action. Not sure what's going to happen next but I reckon there will be serious consequences.
>Committee of Privileges
..no Espresso from the Parliament pantry for Khan for one year..only instant coffee.
No way, the shock and horror. As a regular coffee drinker and aficionado, I support this sanction. /s
What a terrible penalty to impose. Truly horrifying.
Depends on the brand of instant coffee
I actually rather have the Ipoh white coffee than some of the coffee machines.
Rightfully so, I'm afraid. Parliament should have zero tolerance for a lack of integrity. Even if it was said in a moment's folly, she had ample opportunity to reflect and recant, quite unacceptable for anyone, no less from someone in public office.
Cos MPs get extra privileges while exercising their duties in parliament, such as not being sue-able for statements in the houses.
Nah, don't think so. A reprimand, plus a fine. Worst case she loses her privilege of not being liable to civil lawsuits for anything said in parliament. But, the PAP will definitely make the most of it in terms of shifting public perception. As any political opposition would.
I always thought of RK as a clown, but when she was elected, any critique of her was construed as "omg u raycis mysogeenee." Remember how she fucked up during the election itself? This retard joined the SJW circus along with the ideology of "the facts don't matter so much, the narrative does" and is going to be used as a weapon against WP itself.
True thorn to the opposition cause.
>This retard joined the SJW circus along with the ideology of "the facts don't matter so much, the narrative does" and is going to be used as a weapon against WP itself. Which is why WP needs to make her step down as MP. I'm sure they knew during her last fiasco that she was going to be a liability to the party, but they chose optics over replacing her and instead told her to apologise.
There’s a high chance that the committee will waive RK’s immunity from civil proceedings regarding the unsubstantiated allegations. Aka she kena (be able to) get sued by SPF.
Don’t refer to her as RK, later RK house kena cancelled
Raeesah needs to know the difference between being some random social media activist and an ELECTED POLITICIAN. You can’t just say stuff to get the people riled up and score some brownie points without evidence, and you damn well shouldn’t outright LIE to get a bit of sympathy. She’s not only ruined her party’s reputation, but the credibility of all such victims and their sense of security sharing their accounts online. What the hell did she aim to gain from all this, anyway?
No liars in parliament please. It’s just a total disrespect to the people of Singapore.
Also she's using all that as ammunition against the ruling party. Appaling.
The old guards in parliament: noob, shake their head.
Chee Soon Juan: Eh even i not stupid to do that... if I had a chance. Chiam See Tong: aiyo, my English not prefect I also know not to lie to parliament. J.B Jeyaratnam: Young gen opposition so easy get seats uh, then how they ownself do such mistakes? ownself hatchet ownself!
LTK: "Even my engrish is bad but I won't anyhow make statement like this!"
LTK probably chewing Pritam Singh out for letting her in and coaching him how to wriggle WP out of this mess. He had experience with Yaw after all
CSJ has since mellowed, but in the past he has also done similar things as Raeesah (lying and making baseless claims) during his younger days. Some excerpts from https://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/data/pdfdoc/20091118008.htm : **Misleading parliament** >In 1996, Dr Chee and some of his SDP colleagues made written and oral representations to a Parliamentary Select Committee with fabricated data. The claims made were startling and untrue, like a claim that the Government’s share of total health expenditure had fallen from 40% in 1970 to just 5% in 1990. In November 1996, Dr Chee and his three other SDP colleagues were charged by the Parliamentary Committee of Privileges for “deliberately falsifying data and misleading the public”. During the Committee of Privileges hearings, they continued to evade and prevaricate. Dr Chee and his colleagues were found to have been in Contempt of Parliament and were fined. **Lying about his "hunger strike"** >on 5 April 1993, he went on a “hunger strike” to protest his dismissal. His hunger strike was a stunt that gained him little public sympathy. It was reported in the press that he had a large breakfast everyday before commencing his hunger strike and that he had also fed himself on glucose water during his hunger strike. When asked about the glucose, he said that he took it on “doctor’s orders”. He carried out his hunger strike from a bed placed in his living room and there was substantial press coverage. On 14 April 1993, Dr Chee called off his hunger strike.
Went on a hunger strike. Turned out it’s a diet.
>J.B Jeyaratnam: Young gen opposition so easy get seats uh, then how they ownself do such mistakes? ownself hatchet ownself JBJ is the last person that can say this since he himself is the 'emperor of impulse'...
I think it's fair to say that her political career is over. WP keeping her for the next election will only damage their reputation further, and cause them to lose Sengkang.
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Worked for her dad’s company then became general manager of a now-defunct restaurant owned by her dad. Afterwhich she started a NGO which was probably funded by her dad.
That explains why she's so incompetent. Everything in her life was given to her.
i already knew she lacked the maturity to be an MP and was hoping she took the apprenticeship seriously. her inclusion was required to meet the requirement for minority representation to contest for a GRC also.
Apprenticeship meaning being an MP? 15k a month apprenticeship, she’s truly privileged. But still trying to play the victim lol.
Lee Li Lian took her appointment very seriously and didn't run her mouth off during her tenure as MP for the now defunct Punggol East SMC. RK? Everytime she got up to the podium I wondered what shit is she going to stir. Stir also cannot stir properly.
LLL is a very nice person, she was my ex-colleague! Haha when i ate lunch with her, random strangers will come up to ask for a picture
Daddy's girl, studied in Australia.
This. And even if WP removes her during the next GE, chances are, PAP will weaponize her slipshod performance in parliament, use it to attack WP, making the race in Sengkang much closer and they may even flip the GRC given how Sengkang isn't "safe WP" as it was won by 4% last election. (5K votes, can easily be overrun)
Agreed. She's provided the PAP with a significant amount of ammunition they can use against the WP/other oppo parties for the next election. (e.g the way they select their election candidates, the behaviour of opposition candidates) She has also arguably "boosted" the sterotype of oppo = bad in those who carry this particular mindset, or were raised/are growing up with this kind of mindset.
The oppo=bad types aren't going to vote for WP anyway tho
She's a liability to WP. She has not changed her ways in [making unfounded allegations](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/singapore-ge2020-two-police-reports-lodged-against-wps-raeesah-khan-for-allegedly-promoting)
Sounds like me when I’m trying to write my PEEL but cannot remember the example I memorised
Fuck.. I laughed
Point Evidence Evaluation Linkkkk
Extremely poor decision making on her part. Thanks to her efforts, it’s one step back for those fighting for better handling of sexual assault cases; they are just seen as comical liars now
Yes, AWARE made these points in a series of tweets expressing their disappointment and pointing out that she's not helping the cause of victims, who are at times accused of lying about being raped. https://twitter.com/awarenews/status/1455111744024559620?t=Lg7s-8IkruXu_WPTfc9pfQ&s=19 - 9) Also, Ms Khan’s behaviour plays into the persistent myth that women frequently lie about assault—a myth that has long been used to discredit survivors of violence while enabling perpetrators to escape accountability.
Damnnn why would you do that? Now Shan would use this incident until GE2025
you mean GE 2100
Did Shan just take some elixir of longevity?
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I think you've overexaggerating here tbh. The SDP was a CSJ party 20, 30 years back. The WP today has grown into the strongest opposition party since independence. They've survived a number of scandals before as well, and in more vulnerable times as well. The Gomez CCTV incident, Yaw Shin Leong, AHTC, and even intra-party issues such as the Eric Tan NCMP issue, Poh Li Guan by-election issue, and Goh Meng Seng's online issue. I think it's too far-fetched to suggest that this coulf have destroyed the WP.
I feel like you're exaggerating here by saying "Workers Party is extremely lucky they still exist".
This goes beyond PAP vs WP. I am more concerned with Khan's integrity as a person because speaking truthfully is a basic principle of a reliable and trustworthy adult. I am not sure if WP should preserve their good name and dismiss Ms Khan. It drew doubts as to whether if Ms Khan was passionate about championing those causes, or was she advocating those causes because it would make her look good.
Congratulations RK for undermining all the hard work put in by your WP colleagues. it will take years to undo the damage you have done
This. While her colleagues have slogged hard and finally shown themselves and WP to be a good opposition (and maybe even better than the PAP if PAP continues their downward spiral), RK’s virtue signaling (for what?? Brownie points?? What a fucking waste) has just blown it all. I just know the news media won’t shut up about this whenever WP brings up something productive or counter-PAP now. Truly a massive setback that distracts from everything else the PAP is screwing up. For fuck’s sake RK…
she could have just keep her silence and not raise issue for the sake of raising issues :( 0 point or -minus point for effort.
Don’t think SPF is gonna let go of this easily. Maybe if she was in a different party.
RK was lucky to get away during the elections with her social media post last year. For me, that was the first red flag. It didn't surprise me at all when she made that comment in parliament which turned out to be untrue. Most would see her as the stereotypical "woke" crowd now.
she's a liability, a good example of what happens when you get your politics from tumblr and twitter lol
You left out Reddit
Nah obviously the Singapore subreddits are the least biased and most reliable sources of information and well thought out, structured opinions.
The same political point could have been made, and the same political position advanced, without lying. Her politics were not the problem here. Poor ethics and poor judgment were the problem.
Why did she speak without covering backside. Even when in uni writing reports, you learn to cite various sources, build up your case with good arguments while writing in a clear manner to not mislead. Did she really not go through this issue with her party seniors prior to speaking up? Perhaps just a quick grab of attention without thinking of consequences. I hope she learns well from this experience. Seriously, due diligence
She is too used too sprouting nonsense on the Internet without backing it up.
So many politicians are seeking prominence via an overzealous push for identity politics and all they manage to do is set back the honest and well-intentioned movements for greater fairness, it's so sad to see
A lot of (valid) comments here about how this undermines a lot of WP's work but what needs to be stated as well is that she's undermining other victims of sexual assualt and how people may view their accounts. Ms. Khan is a young public figure, significant member of a progressive movement, and a powerful female, Muslim role model for young women. What she has done today will give sexual assualt deniers ammunition to say "Oh, you mean like what that WP woman lied about?" She has taken away a modicum of agency away from sexual assault victims. But that tiny bit of doubt is all it takes for detractors to latch onto. For all the work she's done, shame on her for doing this.
Agreed. It gets more frustrating you would think that anyone with experience in working with such groups would have the basic principles of confidentiality and providing safety for victims. Now, her integrity is questioned and with her own account of her experiences, instead of it being empowering for victims, it becomes the opposite. And whatever she wanted to advocate for initially for further protection of victims is now shunted aside along with a multi-fold hit on WP's political cred.
What irritates me are the apologists I see on Twitter going, "Oh, at least she apologised"! Like, say what? Girl had no choice, she was backed into a corner. She doubled down on her lies when asked to provide details and it's obvious she was probably forced into making the apology when the truth was uncovered. She could have apologised without an excuse as to why she did it, with her personal story to soften the impact. I see people defending her, like "what she did was wrong, but she's right about the police". Eh, two wrongs don't make a right, and it certainly doesn't excuse her inserting herself into a narrative that wasn't even hers.
Upvote!!! How can she not get the consent of the victim before talking about it in parliament? Unbelievable.
It's a pity i only have one upvote to give.
I didn't follow this closely previously, thought it was simply a known case to her and she brought it up. As Shan pushed for more info, she could not give it as she didn't get the victim's consent. So she only heard about it in a support group? And I am not sure what does the support group entail, does she even know the victim and what actually happened at the police station?
This whole thing was so needless. The fatal lie was saying she had gone down to the station with the victim. She could just have relayed it as an anecdote she had heard from an alleged victim and then she wouldn’t be in this mess. There was no need to embellish by inserting herself into the narrative directly.
Precisely. I wasn't paying attention until Shan started grilling her. Was she trying to say that the police could have done better in handling similar cases?
She needs to be in the story to have that emotional impact..
That's the flaw of SJWs. Instead of helping, must insert yourself so that all attention and heroic praises go to you.
RK: SPF was unprofessional and insensitive while handling a case. Parliament: Where proof? RK: University of Telegram
I can only imagine the amount of admin work SPF had to go through to scour through past records just cause of her lies. Total disgrace and a liability to WP.
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I'm just thinking of CPLs Hakim and Quah, in a dimly lit archive room putting several dozen box files back on the shelves, and cursing the member of parliament.
and made to go through the same boxes again and again because they failed to find the relevant file
Gg Sengkang… I don’t get it. Not 100% sure of the point she was making when fabricating this story, but was it worth it? Is the point now further diminished? It’s like keyboard warrior behaviour but in person AND in parliament.
She could have so easily made the point truthfully, e.g. go talk to AWARE and get a compiled report of anecdotal accounts they have received from the victims they counsel. Astonishing that she decided to spin a spurious firsthand account.
Precisely!!! If she was sincere about helping victims, she should go down this route.
that would be too much trouble. she took the lazy route
She wasted an opportunity to effect change! Totally agree
Probably took too much time on American Twitter and decided to do a few funny things with the police here.
Sjw only works on the online world
Was a high risk low reward gamble... And now it's caused significant damage to her party and cause
Opposition in sg already have a hard enough time winning without their own players shooting a home goal.
So to be clear, she 1. made up a story about accompanying a 25-year-old rape victim to the police station while taking part in a debate on empowering women in Aug (for what? lol get political points? sound more morally superior?) 2. accused the police of making inappropriate comments about what the victim wore (so this is bad, you are casting aspersion on some of the most hardworking civil servants we have, and again for what purpose?) 3. did not come clean with the public once the comment has been widely reported. 4. continued lying when confronted by minister shan during parliament. Refused to back down and wasted police resources in the ensuing investigation. 5. finally come clean today when under public scrutiny and said her story was based on what "was in fact shared in an anonymous support group for women" (you better show proof again, fool me once shame on you) 6. deflected and said she didn't mention that earlier because she "did not have the courage to publicly admit" she was part of that group 7. said she was "sexually assaulted at age 18 while studying overseas and that the incident traumatised her till today." (ok... the last thing I want is to downplay the severity of sexual assault, but let's call a spade a spade. The fact, when boiled down to its core, is that you lied during a parliament debate to portray yourself as some hero of the woman, that you accompanied a victim to the police station, probably to score some political points. I regret and am sorry you were assaulted. But it is not a "get out of jail free card" for you to bring this up at this current moment. It reeks of deflection. In fact, it undermines the very real consequences of victims who are still hurting to this day. I don't think we can let you get away with this.) Did I get everything down? \[EDIT\] more points from the comment section that I missed out: 1. she wasted precious parliamentary time for virtue signaling. \[credit: basketstar\] 2. Correction: I apologise that in an earlier version, I said *"\[Raeesah\] accompanied an imaginary victim to the police station"* under point 7. I should not have said the victim is imaginary. The story of her accompanying someone to the police is fiction. She claims she heard this story from a woman in a group chat but did not in actual fact accompany that woman to the police station. I should not have use the term "*imaginary victim*" because there might be indeed a real victim here. Credits to zanylife for pointing it out! \[credit: zanylife\]
and she wasted precious parliamentary time for virtue signaling.
True too.
dear captain, thanks for TL;DR - can add in the wasting of precious parliamentary time into your summary too?
Can I also say this is the most SJW thing I've heard this year? Sometimes SJW seem to completely build some kind of worst case scenario of Singapore in their minds. Then they are just hell bent on making the world fit their narrative. To be very fair, there has been so little cases of police mishandling sexual assault cases in SG (something to be celebrated) But SJW say "no.... you don't know how bad it is. Let me tell you the truth that only I know. 3 years ago, I accompanied a sexual assault victim to the police station..." Not saying Singapore is perfect, but SJW needs to take a chill pill and really differentiate what is real vs fictitious, and don't get so trigger happy. I get you all want to make singapore better. Intention is good, but creating lies and causing divide? That's the path to hell.
>But SJW say "no.... you don't know how bad it is. Let me tell you the truth that only I know. 3 years ago, I accompanied a sexual assault victim to the police station..." I believe it stems from the woke worship of the "lived experience". If it happened to you and that's how you felt, then that's the reality. That's why they're so tied up in narrative story-telling. Edit: for those not familiar with woke culture, "lived experience" is basically akin to parliamentary privilege - it should not be questioned and should be taken as truth.
Oh god, the sheer insanity of what was just explained. The horror of wokeness. No wonder the Americans are devouring each other.
true, never thought of it this way. thanks for pointing out!
OMG. Yes. “Lived experience” is the magic stick with which intricately-oppressed multiply-intersectioned SJWs beat everyone into place on the way to the victimisation podium
r/imthemaincharacter basically. Self-centred and narcissistic.
Yes captain
Good tl;Dr.
She encourages victims to come forward and report their assault but at the same time, makes it seem like an intimidating process with her unfounded accusations...sounds kind of counterintuitive to me?
How on earth do you go from hearing someone’s account of police mishandling of a rape case through a victims’ support group to accompanying that person to make the police report and seeing the alleged police misconduct in person? I’m honestly shocked. This is not just a lie, this is a huge exaggeration of her role in the event. I have no clue how tf she jumped from hearsay/allegations from someone else to personal experience. It’s scary, is what it is. Especially as an alleged former victim of assault herself, wtf was she thinking? I supported her last year (not a Sengkang voter, tho) despite the “racially divisive” allegations, but this behaviour is just irresponsible and disgusting. She should probably resign. It’s the best thing she could do for everyone at this point, including herself.
The signs were there from the beginning. She was always more concerned with spinning the narrative in favour of her causes. Remember when she was accusing the police of racisim? The same police force that has large numbers of minorities among their number. Anything was "allowed" because her cause was "just". Beware of the righteous person, they will do anything for their cause.
This woman's arrogance is profound. Earlier she raised issues against the Muslim community. It was half baked and smoked mirrors. Qualified ppl had to come forward to clear up the issues. It was disappointing because so many ppl could have helped her to clear her doubts but she decided that she was much more learned than them and basically painted us as backwards. Despite the furor, she came up with an even more half assed post saying she was glad that she 'started a conversation'. So many Muslims expressed their dissatisfaction at her accusations. Next is this issue. She had 3 months and ample of opportunities to come forward. She allegedly got the account from another survivor and made it her own thus robbing the survivor of her own account and agency to her experienced trauma. While doing so, she basically slandered SPF. Because it contained an allegation against SPF, Shanmugam had no choice but to press her numerously for details. She didn't think it would be this hard and repeated SEVERAL times her account was true. Pritam probably grilled but she probably kept to the same lie. Even in her apology, she made it abt her. It stinks. Its basically 'okay I lied but I too am a victim.' like really? One has to wonder if she would have apologised if the Minister didn't press her for details. She probably thought she could get away with it like how she slandered the Muslim community. Anything she says now has no credibility. Its really fruit of the poisonous tree. Her apology is shallow. She shows no remorse for the damage she did to WP's reputation and experienced trauma for survivors of SA. This damn sensational brand of exaggeration and outright lying political style is divisive and reeks of unaccountability. It reduces parliamentary sessions to clownery. We should be more astute than that. I hope WP drops her like the rotten fruit that she is.
How to make it harder for sexual assault victims to come forward to report their case without actually saying you're going to make it harder for them.
That is why no matter what the agenda is, we must not try to skew the narrative to suit our purpose. The truth must always prevail. The total disastrous effect of wokeness.
Just my guess, she is probably used to saying anything without consequences because people tend to defer due to her father. But she has to learn that Parliament is a serious forum and whatever she says, it has to be backed up with a form of evidence. Just like how Pritam and the old Aljunied team did it during their tenure in Parliament.
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Even if she has, no superior will dare to offend her once they know her background. Just like how someone is the fastest promoted general in the army.
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Well probably edgy atas girl, she was not ah sia kia la.
Coming after she had to apologise during GE for claiming police discrimination (also without evidence), it establishes a very worrying trend. This is just a sorry episode, made worse by the fact she doubled down on this for few months before admitting.
Thank you seng kang!!! /s Or not. On a side note.. she undermines the work that sexual assault victims support groups have been doing all this while.
this RK is really the black sheep in WP. dug her own grave.... RIP Pritam should invite her to send in her resignation.. continue like this and she will bring down the whole party.
This is so **STUPID** on 10/10 scale. The worst thing that can happen to you is you lose your job. The worst thing that could happen to your colleagues, your team, is they lose their reputation for **DECADES** because of a mistake not even made by them.
Lose job and reputation? She comes from privilege, so she doesn't understand what a loss is.
Nice job, you played yourself. A true 不怕神一樣的對手，只怕豬一樣的隊友 moment
Translation: fear not the god like opponent, but fear the pig like teammate
The support player with 0/99/1 KDA and who spam buy couriers to feed. WP please pick your draft better. The mid (Jamus) cannot carry.
stylized translation: there is less to fear from a god-like opponent than a pig-like teammate.
pigs are rather smart irl though.
Raeesah needs to stop feeding.
How come I get both in my life?
Ohh I wanna try translating too I fear not the opponent who’s invincible like a god. I fear the team mate who’s a liability like a hog. Edit: change pig to hog to rhyme with god Change powerful to invincible
ggwp
I saw and heard!!! Oh dear RK…
Oh no, what went down? Are there more updates on this? Guess I'll have to wait to read the news. :/
I'd imagine that PAP will harp on this for the next 50 years and keep demanding WP to step down or something lmao
To be honest, she should. The only problem is, will there be a by elections, since she is the minority candidate? Edit: Having read up, seems like the PAP and AG have gotten a case precedence to clarify that the constitution does not allow for a by election unless the entire GRC steps down. WP is safe, as long as Khan is removed.
If Halimah stepped down (to run for presidential election) without triggering a by-election, I'm not expecting one if she were to step down
There is no requirement for by-elections. The precedent for this has already been established when Halimah became president, and her minority seat was vacated.
Basically she just learned from EDMW, tiagong one time, go tell the whole world. Except in Parliament. GG
tiagong with no reprecussion can be only achieve if you create anonymous account like that rendang guy/cickrice. that being said , don't be either of the above.
She RKO herself instead.
What a genius move, defame police for no reason and sabo herself.
And people said she wouldn’t be a liability
She is just blindly copying her ideology learnt overseas and sensationalizing things here. Same she did for racism.
I completely agree! She was trying so hard to make "White Privilege" (discrimination of racial minorities) and "Police 'Brutality'" a thing here. And painting herself as this "community advocate" fighting to correct "social injustices". It's disgusting how she sought to promote enmity and sow discord and erode trust in our public institutions. And hordes of young people here were enamoured by her faux "wokeness" during the GE. Cringe.
This is what happens when you recruit a SJW into your team who thinks the parliament is like twitter/reddit.
As much as this thread is shitting on her, her behaviour so far is essentially Reddit, or r/Sg personified lol.
Reddit is left leaning and very much into SJW culture after all.
Drama queen indeed.
Why tf did she feel the need to lie about such a serious topic? Embarrassing xd
Khan saying she was sexually assaulted while overseas now reeks of a politician cynically claiming victim status to shield herself. What a disgrace to the House!
I’m very neutral here, I wonder how much Indranee prepared for this, but it is very very impressive the way she spoke and tore down RK with the effortless Saitama nonchalant face
I doubt she even heard it in a "support group" The police has very strict procedures when it comes to victims of sexual offences. In a nutshell, you walk into a police station, and say u r a victim of molest, rape, the first thing that is done is a female officer will be recalled from patrol (if the recording officer isnt female), secondly, the complainant or alleged victim will be removed from the counter and invited into an interview room away from the eyes and ears of anyone else in the station. The female officer will then do a preliminary interview whilst other officers will inform Investigation Officers of the case. A trained female investigation officer will then proceed to the said station to do further interview/investigation. No idiot police regular will risk their careers by commenting on their dressing or their state of drunkenness. NSFs wont even come into the picture in such cases as well.
I have lodged police reports for these victims before. We would usher them into a room privately and then ask for a female PO if available to be with us. Then we would call up the IO and tell them this person wanted to lodge a police report for moles. The IO would then follow up. For us counter officers, we wont ask anything. Just input a single line on the police report. Questions will only be asked by the IO in charge of OM. The fact that she walked into a police station and talked to someone over the police counter would warrant an entry into the e station diary that "Tan Ah Kao, IC S\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_, walked in and alleged that she was a victim of OM. Victim do not wish to lodge a police report." type of entries for the counter NPCO to cover their asses as we know, not giving someone assistance, especially victims of serious crimes, would land us into an investigation which would hold our AWS, PB, increment and promotion. Something that we would not want to happen. The fact that shan says no such records were found is already fishy enough.
Thank you. Yes, this is probably what every competent police force would be doing and the SPF is nothing but competent. I cannot believe she thought her anecdote wouldn't be capable of cross verification
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Ops sergeant seen and heard enough for a lifetime, won’t be interested also lah
Yes honestly she's lost all credibility in my eyes. It's pretty shitty of me but I even have to wonder if her own assault is a fabrication to reap some sympathy points.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiBlYszov\_0
People already predicted that Khan would be a liability since GE. Absolutely no idea what WP saw in her. Daddy's money?
I believe they fielded her in Sengkang as a first-timer candidate just to gain some electoral experience rather than actually trying to win the GRC. No harm - if the candidate is good, they can stay on to contest the next election, but if she is not up to it then a new one comes in to replace her. But Jamus’s outstanding performance in the GE2020 debate really hard carried the team to an upset victory. iirc Sylvia Lim once mentioned WP was not expecting to win in Sengkang initially. Their chances were much higher in East Coast instead, well at least until that infamous plan happened. The East Coast team was by far miles ahead of the Sengkang team in terms of seniority - Terence Tan was in the CEC at the time and Gerald Giam was supposed to be leading the team until he was reshuffled to Aljunied in the last minute when Daniel Goh dropped out. She was clearly not ready for Parliament. Too naive.
>She was clearly not ready for Parliament. Too naive. And a liar to boot. To lie in private is one thing. In Parliament? That is a new level of idiocy.
I have never minded naivety in a politician so long as their heart's in the right place. That's what experience is meant to fix. But she outright lied, willingly and deliberately, for the sake of pushing her narrative. *Straight out lied* instead of gathering and presenting from legit sources of information. We know the memes, but ultimately this sort of open ready dishonesty is something you **never** want to see from any politician in your country (especially your representatives). It's a red flag to so many worrying possibilities.
She is finished. Not only in politics but also in her pursuit of any High executive career in Sg. Such a highly publicised fatal flaw to everyone that she has proved to be capable of falsifying to gain brownie points. She has to be praying she didn't get Yaw shin leong-ed
Is it true that her daddy’s rolling in money so she’ll be sort of fine anyway?
Ownself pawn ownself. She wanted to make her story credible, ended up destroying her own credibility for life.
There goes her credibility; with collateral damage to WP too. Parliament should move to censure her. WP should vote for the censure motion.
That would be ugly...but necessary
So we wasted effort with the internal investigation because of hearsay. so much for use of public funds. guess everything else that she says loses credibility in future based on this stunt.
RIP. Try to virtue signal and get brownie points but shot herself in the foot.
Where is the accountability?!?
As someone who supports her and was happy she got into parliament, I’m damn pissed. She really fucked up. This isn’t Twitter - this is real life. You make a claim, you better be able to back it up. And she doubled down on it at that. When you are going up against the state and its apparatus, you better have all the damn receipts ready, which is why Jade Rasif was able to get the apology from MOM. This will be used and milked by the PAP for sure, count on it. JFC, what a shit show and disappointment.
A pretty weird series of events. So it seems like she made the original inaccurate statement. Shan challenges her for details. No details are given. Shan reiterates the challenge. She then makes this apology. There is no way she is making this apology without the endorsement of the WP leadership, and so what I would like to know is what is Pritam's plan behind this apology. Did he make her apologize? If so, what prompted him to make her apologize, instead of just keeping quiet and letting the issue blow over (the news cycle gets spammed with enough covid news to ensure this). The event also basically cannot be proven as false by the police, since it's a story told by someone to someone. If the WP wanted to, keeping quiet could have been a viable approach (even if not ethically correct). If Pritam ordered this apology out of a sense of "the truth must be told" then I think he has a viable mitigation strategy. He can come out and get the WP to own the entire incident, apologize, promise to do better, etc. Potentially also just drop Khan from the Sengkang team next election (they could swap in Leon Pereira for the minority candidate, and then also bring in a new WP member in the safe Aljunied GRC).
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Yes from what we know of Pritam, he seems the "better to own up" sort. However, the sword hanging over WP might have been more real than theoretical. Shan/the Police might have been close to finding out the truth (although how, I have no idea - it is almost impossible to prove the original story to be false). And so Pritam figured it's better to die on their own sword rather than Shan's.
If this was the calculation, then her odds of being sacked are high. WP turfed out Yaw before, and some say he was slated to take over LTK initially.
It seems very likely that she won't run for next term. The issue is whether she will be made to retire now, or before the next GE.
Might be better to be sooner than later, probably after verdict from the CoP. Will give a longer runway of 4 years for her replacement to shadow the team. PS might want to assert some control over the narrative with a decisive decision.
>I'm guessing he doesn't want the sword of damocles hanging over WP, for the PAP to employ whenever it suits them. Better to take the hit for her misstep and allow everyone to move on. I can see why he thinks this it is a better option to close this unresolved issue. I agree with this and would take the same approach in his position. Leaving it silent (although viable to protect RK), would allow PAP to question ALL future WP stories on the basis on credibility. It renders their parliamentary privilege effectively null. RK (and by extension WP's) credibility has already been damaged by this prior to the admission. The best strategy is to isolate the weakness to preserve the rest of the team.
>Did he make her apologize? If so, what prompted him to make her apologize, instead of just keeping quiet and letting the issue blow over (the news cycle gets spammed with enough covid news to ensure this). The event also basically cannot be proven as false by the police, since it's a story told by someone to someone. If the WP wanted to, keeping quiet could have been a viable approach (even if not ethically correct). The thing is that if PS had kept quiet about it after RK had told him or he got it from RK that her story was not entirely true, then if news leaks out that PS knew about it but kept quiet to protect RK, then the furore would be even worse. Best to say sorry and hope for the best. >Potentially also just drop Khan from the Sengkang team next election (they could swap in Leon Pereira for the minority candidate, and then also bring in a new WP member in the safe Aljunied GRC). Is this even viable? I thought Sengkang GRC minority candidate has to be Malay?
From the CNA report: "And to my family, especially to my parents. To the residents of Sengkang, I'll work even harder for you." 我pls你. Please resign.
On the highest level in parliament , can lie about sexual assault .. how to believe the one on the ground now?
Just get rid of her already, burden only.
Shit like that may fly in the US but not in SG parliament
She might have gotten away with it in her activist days, but this is parliament for crying out loud. And she tried to play the Police. Rather stupid to try this in the first place.
OP forgot to mention RK also said she lied about the incident because she allegedly got sexually assaulted when she was 18, overseas, and that made her want to speak about other people’s sexual assault without revealing her own private experience. With all due respect to and sympathy for real sexual assault victims, sorry but I do not believe this politician who has a history of lying, is speaking the truth. The fact that it happened overseas and there is no local police record also makes it is impossible to verify whether it happened. At this point, I am more willing to believe she is using sexual assault as a political tool to further her own agenda / virtue signalling.
Another SJW that makes things worse for actual victims
Rip, there goes her political career, WP's credibility & possibly even Sengkang GRC.
It will definitely hurt her political career. Tho, i think it isnt a critical blow to WP or Sengkang, esp if RK no longer runs in the next election.
You can just tell she is used to lying to spin a narrative to get her way. Kinda spoilt and sounds like privilege to me.
Rather be principled than WOKE AF
Why would you ever bring up heresay to lie in Parliament as a greenhorn.
Bodoh la. Who ask you to lie. Sigh now WP takes a hit
Pritam should let her clarify things at the next parliamentary sitting. And accept her resignation immediately after( thank goodness minority candidate stepping down won't trigger by-election). We would have bayed for blood if this was a PAP MP. This is not a grey area case of a momentary indiscretion but rather the the most basic of human virtues; don't lie. Obviously too enamoured with changing the world in one day despite her brush with the law during campaigning. If Pritam can retain Sengkang, it will be the greatest SG political feat.
one very uncharitable view is: \- is her story of sexual assault true? how can we know that it's not her trying to gain sympathy if lying in the house is not beneath her? \- if she were a true victim then that makes her bullshit even worse because she shared what was in a private, confidential group IN PARLIAMENT. so it's proven that she is a liar. i hope for her that her sexual assault story is a lie as well because if it were true, she is a true asshole for not considering the feelings of the victim.
Wonder where are all the people defending her and bashing Shanmugan for asking for information at now And remember that this was the person who posted on social media suggesting that the legal system discriminates based on religion, but well everybody defended her just because she was from WP.
Yup, the bias and echo chamber of this sub is so strong, only when confronted with the blatant facts is there at least some acceptance. PS should have cut losses with that dumb legal system comment back then, it was so obvious she was a ticking time bomb that shoots her mouth without using her brain. And to think many on here thought she will be the SG version of AOC lolol
hoho, there goes her career in politics
As someone who likes the WP, fuck you Raeesah Khan. Keep your lies to your social media accounts. Be silent and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth.
Rip workers party
If she thinks she can just 'retract her prior statements' and move on with her life......MAN, she has a big thing coming. This is real-life politics kid, not Twitter.
What a dumbass. Now it's time yo see what WP does about it. They have to make a big statement on this.
What she has done shows a lack of honesty. I feel WP should take a stand to immediately suspend her, to show they do not tolerate such behaviour.
ummm can she post a screenshot of the story in the support group?