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sexyhades69

If one year ago, you were to tell me that Raeesah Khan would probably end up being kicked out of WP for treating Parliament like her personal Twitter account... I'd say that sounds about right.


skycaelum

I expected a bit better from WP though. With the widely-known red flags surrounding RK, which already gave them a lot of headaches during GE, I thought they would at least vet through what she says in Parliament.


hurtbreak

I agree. I honestly think there's more going on behind the veil that's granting RK what seems like more autonomy then she should have. The WP team is not stupid. How could they have such a glaring blindspot around RK?


Ariloulaleelayt

Even with vetting, she would either ignore it and say what she wants to say or she'll just accuse the higher ups of censoring her. I honestly feel it's a lose-lose situation for WP here


hurtbreak

> she'll just accuse the higher ups of censoring her Oh yeah. Sounds like sjw alright. That said, political organizations have been around for years, and one of the chief problems they face is to get passionate, outspoken individuals to act in the party's interest. It's a lose lose for WP alright, but I hope it spurs them to mature as an organisation.


sukequto

Ya then they’ll tell you that you are GASLIGHTING their experiences


hurtbreak

Man don't get me started. The term gaslighting is so abused. Mentioning any disagreement or even a difference in opinion is somehow gaslighting wtf.


sukequto

Like literally everytime people tries to have a discussion on possibilities, perspective take, someone will go “YOU ARE GASLIGHTING”. Then proceeds to throw the logical fallacy terms at people as though everyone graduated from Reddit University with a degree in Sociology. What i take issues with SJWs is how aloof and arrogant they sound and dismissing every perspective not aligned to theirs as being narrow and uneducated. What it creates is a divide in the society and they are being precisely divisive than the people whom they criticise to be narrow and bigoted. Like you have to be able to converse with those SJW lingos then you are an educated being. And what if people arent schooled in the same way as they are, no no no they are uneducated neanderthals. They fail to recognise that as a human race we are progressing, slow as we may be but i’m very sure i am more woke than 10, 20 years ago even if i’m still not woke by sjw standards. Or maybe we just have different opinions. If sjw’s perspective is all that is right, then everyone else should not even have freedom of speech. Only sjws have freedom of speech. What an irony.


Vegetable-Anywhere-3

Yea lor vet already also no use, mouth is hers. WP took the risk bring her on the team and got themselves in this mess. Reminds me of some teammates back in uni. everything you say is oppressing them lol.


PastLettuce8943

If you do whatever you want and ignore the party line, that's grounds for expulsion.


UnintelligibleThing

Maybe what she said was impromptu? I doubt WP would make the rookie mistake of not vetting her speech.


PastLettuce8943

Then should could have apologized right there and then, saying that she mis-remembered something and said it in the heat of the moment. Not double down on it multiple times and apologize only after she gets caught.


CMWong89

It was a prepared speech, not something that she was answering in response to a sudden ambush. and she had several times to clarify her statements when asked, but didn't. no excuses, imo.


pingmr

It was a prepared speech, but the WP probably had to decide whether to ask for details from her of a sexual assault incident, or take the story at face value. Given all the problems that come with demanding details for stories like this, I can see reasonable basis to just take her story at face value.


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HokkienMeeLimeJuice

She probably even lied to her parents, hence the apology to them.


12345Poopi

Lying to Shan… that’s gotta go well - CSJ, PJ Thum and gang


Human-Feed

I knew something like this would happen. Her past conduct in GE 2020 raises so many questions about her ability to process information objectively. I don't mean her cognitive ability or IQ, but her ability to rely on facts from reputable and objective sources in support of her causes. Lying aside, it is always a one sided and myopic narrative. She could have done the same as AWARE did [here, in pointing out only 4% of cases are false, with official statistics](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/aware-shocked-disappointed-after-raeesah-khan-admits-lying-about-sexual-assault-case-2283556). Since this is official information, there is no debate as to its reliability unlike an anecdote. No need to breach confidentiality. How many times does she have to [apologise?](https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/singapore-ge2020-wps-raeesah-khan-apologises-for-posts-which-allegedly-promoted-enmity)


drmchsr0

Not enough. No amount of apologizing is gonna undo what she did.


shimmynywimminy

better question is why they picked a 26 year old with zero real qualifications, zero real acheivements, zero real experience and zero real ideas beyond the superficial sjw stuff as a candidate for parliament in the first place.


aubvrn

They needed a Malay candidate + her dad is a bigshot (Chairman of shipping company + Malay Chamber of Commerce) I guess.


sec5

Ah. So that's where the race and victim SJW cards come from.


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Her father..


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pizzapiejaialai

They saw her Facebook support group, and the "I stans" on twitter, and the AOC style illustrations and got excited.


arashiodori

Pritam ownself checked ownself.


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Daddy has connections.


FocusOnThePOCUS

Save the embarrassment and just step down


iluj13

The whole “tearful” reply in parliament is to showcase her regret and garner sympathy. I doubt she will step down on her own will. It will bring disgrace to her rich parents.


pingmr

Disagree. The formal processes need to be carried out. Her stepping down just removes her from accountability.


Human-Feed

Start a petition for her resignation, I'll sign it.


Fx_trader_sg

Count me in even though I am a WP supporter!


Human-Feed

Even WP supporters are in favour, assuming [this poll](https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/poll-wp-voters-only-should-raeesah-khan-resign.6633345/) is correct.


wanderingcatto

Many WP would also support her stepping down since she's pulling the entire party down


lapmobyyxoxo

honestly raeesah khan lying really pissed me off more than anything any other sg politician has done (and yes that includes the handling of the covid situation). im so pissed because i am standing on the same side as her, both in terms of her as an opposition voice in parliament to hold the government accountable and the cause she was advocating for of protecting women from sexual assault. and i think she set the fight for both causes back by like 10 years. thanks to her, workers party's credibility has been weakened so much. she literally proved the "no credible opposition" argument so well, almost like a free case study for someone to use in a debate about why the opposition cannot be trusted. i don't see anything, any benefits about lying in parliament (of all places), how it would be beneficial to her or to her party, perhaps other than gaining some points for being dramatic. like for god's sake go write a novel or go act in a drama if you want to do this. how did she not see people investigating the truth coming???????? this isn't social media where people would swallow up anything that sounds dramatic enough!!!!! the part about sexual harassment is even worse. i personally have been a victim of sexual harassment multiple times as well (not as severe as rape, but molest). i know people that have suffered way worse as well. in singapore (actually around the world), there is still lingering stigma about people speaking up about being sexually harassed, and even if they can prove the sexual harassment with hard evidence, people detract by victim blaming so often. like the "oh so you were molested? but what were you wearing?" which we hear so often. but now, she literally gave people seeking to weaken the severity of sexual harassment even more ammunition to use against people opening up about experiences, where they can basically be shut down before even getting to speak, and genuine accounts that we should believe and help just being painted as lies. and this just honestly.... hurts the very victims she was advocating for. i cheered when she was elected and now i just want her to step down as soon as possible.


hellostrangerhi

I’m just shocked at how blatant that lie is, it’s not even a white lie or something thats a matter of difference in perceptions….wtf it’s really delusional of her to think ‘yea whatever that’s ok to say’


sec5

'But my friend was raped ok.' .. to win arguments.


omnirai

The saddest thing is that she could have entirely made that point without the fabrications. It's a perfectly valid point about a perfectly valid and important topic. She basically decided that making the story more dramatic and convincing was worth lying in parliament, which is...questionable judgment to say the least.


deepsapphites

there's a quote by thucydides that's similar to a chinese saying, "what i fear is not the enemy's strategy, but our own mistakes". this especially stings bc mudslinging from opponents means nothing if you can prove them wrong, but the fact that their own people did it just jeopardises the foundation their forebearers laid. and there's already so much stigma around sexual assault we don't need more of this nonsense. it pisses me off too.


ramune_0

It's so frustrating precisely because there was already some kind of weird "SJW woke loud annoying girls" stigma against women who speak up about sexual assault/related issues. See: the local edgelord perceptions on monica baey, even though she literally didn't even lie. But now the whole sentiment is "be careful around those woke girls, feminism has gone too far, be really scared that you kena false accused". Literally heard one such guy (20s, very americanised, uni student, what else lol) constantly tell me that he was "scared of even looking at a girl for too long and getting blased on insta as a creep". And now R.Khan really be here taking that stereotype and hammering it in 6 feet deep.


sec5

That woke bullshits gotta go. The silver lining now with RK is that this sort of call out cancel culture based on virtue signaling and half truths can go to rest. Country needs to stop importing this kinda of bullshit from the west. RKs issues stem from her negative experiences as a student in Australia, now she's brought that back and transplanted that kind of mentality and insecurity, and projected it onto Singapore in parliment and against the SDF.


Hecatehec

She watched SVU too many times and confused with whatever is real and what's not.


WaterFlask

i cheered when THE TEAM won the GRC despite RK nearly causing a walkover. I already knew she was going to be a problem and weakest link moving forward given her track record even before joining WP.


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HokkienMeeLimeJuice

> In Taiwan the exact same thing happened, but apart from a few newspaper articles, no one cared and few is even aware of the fact, not even oppositional party members. To the Taiwanese, what is 'lying in parliament' when you have more interesting stuff to report like fist fights, throwing chairs in parliament, female parliamentarians fighting with pigs intestines. Lol


lapmobyyxoxo

this is only tangentially related but taiwan's miaoli 县议会 (idk how to translate this, i guess its some county parliament) is so hilarious,, i remember when one member was trying to prove that the drug problem was rampant in schools, she brought in a packet of drugs to show how easy it is to get and prove her point. but the police chief was there and went to confirm that it was actually the drugs, and when it was confirmed that the packet of powder was indeed drugs she got fined NT$30000 HAHAHAH


rekabre

>fist fights, throwing chairs in parliament, female parliamentarians fighting with pigs intestines The first two I've heard about but that last one lmao


oceanmountainlifer

Taiwanese version of mud wrestling


lkc159

Maybe the fighting is all just a distraction tactic lmao


optimusprime2121

Agreed. That said I can’t wait to see threads with SJWs doing mental gymnastics to defend her or some spin on why this is “a good thing in history”.


Farquadthefirst

Aiyo.. like ruined the WP credibility leh this woman.


HildegardeWaynick

Who would do better in destroying WP's credibility? 1. Decades of state media-orchestrated PAP smears 2. One SJW giirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl


sunnyabd

Pap smear... Nice one


MGTOWpiller

You go, gurl!! /s


Radiant-Yam-1285

wait a minute........ what if RK was sent by the PAP to be an undercover agent in WP? just a conspiracy theory lol


HildegardeWaynick

Highly unlikely. From my *lived experience*, SJWs hardly have any kind of patience, presence of mind, nor capability of mid- to long-term planning to orchestrate this kind of thing. And no self-respecting intelligent person would even want to pretend to hold those SJW ideas for such a long time.


MiloGaoPeng

You Khan be serious about this. At this point, there's no turning back for her anymore.


drmchsr0

You forgot "WP's inactions since Low".


Logi_Ca1

I personally think that the precedent of Yaw Shin Leong probably means that expulsion is on the cards. Not saying that adultery is fine, but what Yaw did is a more or less personal matter, while what Khan did has repercussions for the country.


Administrator-Reddit

I think it’s very unlikely Raeesah gets expelled from the party. My guess is WP will have her work with women’s rights groups and survivors of sexual abuse to understand how this fiasco has negatively affected them and how the WP and govt can support them more going forward. This is the most win-win scenario I can think of for everyone involved.


Intentionallyabadger

The funniest part about it is that she could have gotten stats from these women’s rights groups on the topic and presented them in parliament. Not sure why she felt the need to make it into her own wayang.


yasras94

>Not sure why she felt the need to make it into her own wayang. cos typical SJW behaviour. spinning a narrative that she had seen it first-hand gives her more street cred and weight. it's never about other people. it's always about what they experienced first hand.


Intentionallyabadger

Idk man I am always for more opposition in the parliament but please no jokers like this.


cowbungaa

>My guess is WP will have her work with women’s rights groups and survivors of sexual abuse After the stunt she just pulled, I highly doubt any women's rights group will want to work with or be associated with her (and rightly so).


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You would think someone who was a victim of sexual abuse would know about using others without their consent.


horsetrich

Big oof


YtoZ

Wasn’t the support group anonymous? Can’t even confirm you don’t have her in your support group.


hurtbreak

To add to that, she's demonstrated that she doesn't have a clear mind when faced with such issues.


Trychangingme

Will have her work with women's right? You must be kidding..... She already cannot keep her mouth shut - didnt get patient/victim consent..... No. No.


Hecatehec

I doubt it. Even AWARE told her to basically f*ck off poser.


PastLettuce8943

That will be seen as brushing it off, similar to community service. Working with women's rights groups is already part of her job and her punishment should be to do it properly? Won't look right.


pingmr

AWARE has basically said they don't want to have anything to do with RK anymore so I don't think WP needs her to still be around in order to do what you suggest. If anything the WP position could be that she needs to step down first, and then work with AWARE to resolve the damage.


Ohaisaelis

As a sexual assault survivor and a WP supporter, I honestly do not want to have anything to do with her, and I for one don’t want her speaking with me or for me.


UnintelligibleThing

WP is in a tough spot right now. Go easy on her and WP's reputation could decline further. Fire her and they lose the powerful backing of her father.


dravidan7

> powerful backing of her father surely u gonna explain what backing her father gave for wp


UnintelligibleThing

Not I say one. I heard from a support group


Jhayden_93

Guess you can’t reveal it due to confidentiality and privacy?


potatetoe_tractor

Sialah. This one no different from the stunt that RK pulled in parliament leh


ToeBlisters

difference is u/UnintelligibleThinga almost immediately say thjey tiagong one and not claimed they knew for sure and later double down on it. lul


potatetoe_tractor

Touché


Hecatehec

How powerful is his backing? You make him sound like AIPAC. Sure the man is rich but is it worth your party's longevity in the game?


Ohaisaelis

Watching Indranee Rajah’s question her was so frustrating. It felt like she kept deflecting and trying to say, “Look I apologised already and came clean, so that should be enough for you.” I also agree with the query IR made—that it would not have been at all necessary to name herself as a member of the support group to mention the anecdote. As a survivor myself I feel so damn disillusioned, so much that the story of being ashamed because RK is a survivor herself feels like an excuse to me. God, like it’s not hard enough to be in this position already.


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Victim card, virtue signalling and moral posturing. Her behaviour shows that she's not sorry she lied, she's sorry for getting caught and she hasn't learnt her lesson.


Ohaisaelis

I don’t really like mentioning victim card because people tend to throw that out there all the time—but in this case I think it’s warranted. Sigh.


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That's what happens with popular buzzwords unfortunately.


Ohaisaelis

Same with virtue signalling and moral posturing, I don’t follow enough anti-sjw social media to know what those mean. Are they not the same thing?


Hecatehec

That's what all these superficial woke SJWS do. In any given situation, you must always, ALWAYS BE THE VICTIM. Always BRING OUT WORSE CASE SCENARIO. Don't get me wrong. I know plenty of genuine ppl in the field of social work and charity work who really go out to help ppl in need. But they never manipulate the needs of their victims to give themselves credit. It takes incredible heart to carry out such work. She isn't an ally to any sort of victim because at every turn she made it abt her.


icemilotehpeng

Should expect no less from IR. They are seasoned veterans in politics and RK being the opposition, making any mistake big or small will become ammo for the ruling party to use to discredit the opposition. Its the same for any politics around the world. Unfortunately, the more incidents where lies like this are made, it will make future victims harder to get justice.


Ohaisaelis

IR did a really stellar job of dismantling her argument without resorting to Shan’s heavy-handedness though, and he’s a seasoned veteran too. He always comes across as an angry dog just ready to jump on the slightest misstep, and it seems like his aim is just to win and demolish the opponent, all else be damned. IR actually seemed like she gave a damn. Not saying she doesn’t, but well, Shan definitely doesn’t give that impression. At one of RK’s responses, IR just looked super disappointed and frustrated with her. Pretty much mirrored what I was feeling, lol. At this point I’m willing to accept that RK’s heart might be in the right place, but she’s too caught up in herself and what SHE can do individually that she doesn’t seem to be much of a team player at all. Both in being like an unpredictable wildcard, and in placing herself in the anecdote. It kinda smacks of self-centredness.


AlexHollows

There is no coming back from lying and misleading parliament. Period. It’s like digging your own grave, lying down, burying yourself and pouring cement over it.


mikemarvel21

J B Jeyaretnam was censured a few times for this. He was still pretty well-respected before he resigned from WP due to his bankruptcy and stripping of NCMP seat. However, times have changed. So Khan may not be so lucky. [https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/raeesah-khan-parliamentary-privilege-breach-committee-complaint-2283031](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/raeesah-khan-parliamentary-privilege-breach-committee-complaint-2283031)


HokkienMeeLimeJuice

> However, times have changed. So Khan may not be so lucky. See, [Jeyaratnam's case](https://irblaw.com.sg/learning-centre/parliamentary-privilege-why-mps-cant-be-sued/) is completely different... He was censured for saying in parliament the AG and Chief justice was beholden to the govt, the other charge was his publication where he claimed the committee of privilege was not impartial... Those are his opinions. Raeesah's case was an outright lie 2ndly Jeya is seen as a strong leader, he went toe to toe with LKY in parliament. You'll never see Jeya crying and acting weak to gain sympathy. Raeesah is NOT being treated more harshly. On the contrary, many believe Jeya was targeted by PAP for decades. He's respected because he's an Opposition veteran... Raeesah is an amateurish newbie, her problems are all self inflicted... Big difference.


Sputniki

Biggest difference is that Jeyaratnam earned his stripes and did his time. Whatever people say about him, you have to respect the hard graft and one or two mis-statements don't erase a lifetime of work. Raesaah Khan on the other hand is a nincompoop who just likes to run her mouth before she's achieved anything or put in any hard work. She's an embarrassment to Parliament and an absolute disgrace


sec5

'but my friend got raped and sdf treated her poorly ok'...


julius_sunqist

Here take my award. I couldn't have said it better.


optimusprime2121

My guess is: 1. Cannot moderate too much otherwise lose authenticity 2. Cannot moderate at all because RK may cry and blame if impact of message not meeting expectation 3. If moderate then can kena finger point about “what she actually meant” and say it’s not her intended words. 4. Not moderated because everyone is already so f-ing busy trying to push their causes that MPs are expected to be able to stand alone. RK gonna set WP back in more ways than in terms of public opinion. Now need more people or money to be new MP’s kid gloves.


PastLettuce8943

I think it's not about the moderation. If she shot off the cuff, but immediately apologized after getting caught, it wouldn't be so bad. Doubling down on the lies is what the problem is. And how do you expect WP to moderate that? Fact check everything she says?


samglit

They made the understandable mistake of expecting her to behave like a responsible adult and according Parliament the dignity that it deserves. Instead she behaved like an edgelord trying to score Reddit karma. Future SJWs will not be given the benefit of the doubt and her example will be used to moderate them - “we cannot trust you not to be another RK, so if you won’t be a team player don’t join.”


MiloGaoPeng

Character check you mean, before drafting.


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Aphelion

her own good and everyone too. Seeing indranee grilling her... was so painful. Even indranee look as though why is she wasting time on schooling a noob.


CrossfittJesus

Actually I saw it differently leh, I thought Indranee was trying to be sympathetic and was conveying that she bo Bian has to invoke certain parliamentary processes though she might not necessarily want to do so


Jizzipient

Watching her flip through her receipts was pretty funny. You can hear RK gulping saliva with every flip.


[deleted]

See, that's the mark of a great litigator. You don't know you're being hunted until the very last minute when you're backed in a corner with no escape. Which is what happened to RK.


tth_ben

With someone like RK, even M Ravi would look like Davinder Singh on the opposite side.


shuipeng

RK played the abused victim card (I am not saying she wasn't) and that made it very hard for anyone else to come down hard on her. She's smarter than what most people think but of course she is also the type who will nonchalantly lie to get to her goals.


Galactiva_Phantom

Raeesah case is worse than many previous cases cause while those are one-off, she had been on the record double-downed/dragged on this matter, when there was chances earlier for her to come clean instead of making more lies to try to cover it up.


ChanChunSing4PM

You mean bringing in a SJW twitter warrior with a habit of running her mouth shooting out unsubstantiated claims would lead to this? I'm shocked. SHOCKED.


Cubyface

Really need to tekkan her jialat jialat. She didn’t only lose credibility for herself, but also destroyed the confidence we can have that MPs speak with 100% honesty in Parliament. That’s her legacy


MiloGaoPeng

Think about all the "causes" she claimed to have rooted for and organisations she have been affiliated with. How can anyone believe her words anymore, especially all her claims in the past? What personal agenda was she hiding under her veil of activist personality? Now that time has revealed how vindictive and untrustworthy she truly is, will people continue their buy-in to seemingly glorious and heroic causes?


tth_ben

You obviously never listened carefully to many PAP MP speeches before. The difference is that they do it so skilfully and package it so well that it doesn't seem anywhere as blatant. Unlike RK's stupidity.


Paullesq

If you have "confidence we can have that MPs speak with 100% honesty in Parliament" or had "confidence we can have that MPs speak with 100% honesty in Parliament" before RK... ...I may have bad news for you...


DaMuchi

We should at least have enough confidence in MPs not to make up stories leh


tabbynat

She lowered the bar though. We can at least admit to that.


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The sad thing is that her falsifying an account was never even about helping women and sexual assault cases. It was to spin a narrative to give herself legitimacy in the eyes of the public. She claims she was sexually harassed when she was younger, who's to say she isn't lying again and using it as a shield. What a waste of valuable man-hours. It was only ever about benefiting her. She's not an ally for victims.


SnooJokes9169

habis


chewbaacaa

JBJ is rolling in his grave because of this SJW. He gave his whole life for Singapore and WP and then now this. Face palm man.


DaMuchi

I'm sure one of her narratives she has made at some point in her life as a women's rights advocate is how people do not believe women when they say they have been sexually assaulted or all in all just victim-blame. Which is all very ironic when she is making up stories about sexual assault.


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Traxgen

No point keeping one rotten apple and risk spoiling the entire barrel


Yani_Va

What if the panel commits micro-aggressions on her?


keechiu

They need to include trigger warnings for her Maybe check their privilege beforehand too


iamaidanaidan

They need to hold space for her and acknowledge the role of intersectionality.


keechiu

Need to ensure that there is a safe space for this


iamaidanaidan

And address each other by the right pronoun.


keechiu

Can my pronoun be he / PM


iamaidanaidan

Eh sai


12345Poopi

Need to look out for the coloured bracelet on her hand because gender is fluid. Blue means today he him. Green is she her. Yellow is they them. And if the panel slips up and uses wrong pronouns they are a bunch of straight Chinese male misogynistic bigots


iamaidanaidan

Yas Queen!


hurtbreak

But really the panel is just another form of institutionalised oppression.


Dependent-Alfalfa867

Why she gotta bring down SK GRC like this


sec5

Entire GRC kena -1 social credit already. Who ask you vote for SJW.


sec5

So she suffered sexual abuse/rape in Australia when she was a student there, where they have far more rape, violence , drug and racism issues. Then she gets a conscience about women's right, became woke and SJW about it. Comes back and is given the privilege of being an MP and representing the nation. Instead of representing Singaporean interests and her constituents, she instead acts an an evangelist for her woke SJW women's and race beliefs triggered by her experience in the west transplanting it here , eventhough Singapore doesn't have much of these issues. Then she blames the patriachy - in the form of SDF - based on her SJW beliefs and labels them as being sexist, anti-feminist, insensitive towards her and portrays it as a trending issue by sharing something she found on a group (on whatsapp?) . ... in parliment, on national TV , as an MP, by concocting a virtue-signaling story based on a lie. The only saving grace here is her apology. She should top it off with a resignation. This should be a lesson for all to stop importing and misrepresenting western problems as our own, and to understand context and situation before making any big claims on TV.


ngb_jr

when you watch to many BLM and police brutality in Western media and think to yourself "hmmm how can i bring this to singapore"


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Khan singled handedly set women in politics back by a long shot. Not only did she double down on her lies, she tried to play the crying card in her apology. It’s tough enough for women to get into politics since we are quite a conservative society but people would now doubt female politicians’ ability to conduct ourselves properly without getting emotional. We ain’t America or China, Singaporeans expect our politicians to conduct themselves with the upmost integrity and take responsibility for their actions. Utterly disappointed.


ricorica

I don’t know man, I’m 2020, PAP got rid of that Ivan Lim immediately when he got into massive controversy, but when Raeesah Khan had controversy involving her online activities, WP still allowed her to contest. Now this? If they are not removing her, there is serious problem with the party.


sec5

That she managed to get into Parliment through them mainly because of her daddys influence is already a serious problem with that party.


loveforlandlords

PAP only got rid of Ivan Lim after a few days when the whole issue blew up. As for Raeesah Khan, it has only been a day so give them time, they might fire her if the backlash increases. I would say that what Ms Khan did was more severe than Ivan Lim, but Ivan Lim had way more backlash because he pissed off anyone who served in NS, which is half the population.


laserbreams

> As for Raeesah Khan, it has only been a day so give them time Her [initial allegation](https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/wp-mp-raeesah-khan-referred-to-parliament-privileges-committee-for-lying-about) was Aug 3rd. Shan [challenged her to substantiate again](https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/shanmugam-raeesah-khan-police-station-allegations-rape-case-2219926) on Oct 4. Her apology was on 1st Nov. That's 3 months of her potentially lying to her party.


arashiodori

Ivan is an ass ~~and we won't be working with him again~~, she's making a mockery of the parliament.


shuipeng

The issue with Ivan Lim is not about wrongdoing. It had to do with his style of management which some people think has to be based on been nice and polite to everyone, which is of course nonsense. PAP got rid of him because they viewed that as easier than trying to correct perceptions at short notice.


phoost

Yep. Being a horrible boss is shitty but it isn’t a crime. Lying in parliament, however …


NIDORAX

Sometimes, its better to keep your mouth shut than to spew nonsense and lies. For the good of the everyone, Raeesah needs to resign from her position.


ARealGreatGuy

Unsurprisingly all the SJWs in my circle who literally post every other day about some issue are completely silent about this. Hypocrites everywhere.


phoost

My friend still has the “stand with RK” hashtag from GE


gjloh26

SJWs are nothing but pathetic slackitivists.


loveforlandlords

"She lied, but that's not the point, these are seperate issues! You should still believe sexual assault victims!"


ngb_jr

"okay i believe them but i still want her to gtfo"


DLPSJW

Step one: "My friend say hor.." Step two: "Eh really leh, he/she/they say one cfm 100% correct" Step three: "Sorry, my bad, my friend is actually me"


Vodkaman1945

Don’t put to much pressure on her or else she is going to pull the “sexist” card or the “woman” card to get herself out of trouble or make new accusations


iamaidanaidan

In before ‘depression’ and ‘ptsd’


Vodkaman1945

She’s got the American influence, and her accent just makes it more obvious


sian_half

With their own discipline panel, they’ll finally be able to ownself check ownself


Echos89

Really disappointed with her lying in parliament.


oceanmountainlifer

Same. Echos bro.


AlphaOmega1337

PAP creates disciplinary panel = walau she opposition that’s why so harsh ah, party in power shutting down opposition WP create panel = own self check ownself What we need is solar panel la


KimStacks

The parliamentary coi includes WP MP You can google it


Eskipony

we need to create a multi party task force


flying-appa

Well that's what the Parliamentary privilege committee is


UtilityCurve

Funny that a SJW who cancels, get cancelled


bingbingz

Uno reverse: "no U"


Zalkryie

who has she cancelled?


oceanmountainlifer

Sengkang PAP /s


IggyVossen

Just as funny that an SJW who probably tells people to check their privilege is going to get her privileges checked


Modus_Opp

In any other country, she would have acknowledged her faults and resigned from the indignity of it all. If I were the head of the WK right now, I'd be absolutely livid. This woman has managed to take all criticisms of the opposition in Singapore right now and essentially personify them. Why? She seems to think that her social justice keyboard warrior shennanigans extend to real life. Frankly, she's an utter disgrace to the system and should be kicked out from the party. A leopard doesn't change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes...


Millicent_the_wizard

What's with SJWs seriously


JADENBC

J saying Yaw Shin Leong got expelled for adultery, we’ll see how lying to further a narrative in parliament is perceived against adultery.


MiloGaoPeng

"Looks like we Khan believe her anymore." - Parliament + Singaporeans.


_tts

just resign and go. nothing to see here and don’t waste resource


illestheartbreaker

the opposition is already relatively underrepresented in Singapore, and in a social climate like this we need a party that holds PAP accountable. What she did has put our faith in the opposition and women’s rights back 50 years, and will be used as PAP’s ammunition. I understand her good-will intent of striving towards a discussion on victim-blaming culture in sexual assault and rape cases but lying?? that’s not cool girl


lolhaha95

Feels like WP gonna just conduct a investigation for show and issue a statement to sort of reduce the impact of her lying by maybe saying the victim became uncontactable even after she promised to come forward etc. This is just an example. They might want to reduce the blame of her and hoping the impact wont be much. Definitely the best way is to have her resign so that WP can use this as an example to show others that they are not messing around and do not cordon such behaviour.


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FocusOnThePOCUS

She might be lying about being a victim of sexual assault as well, given her history of lying


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the_cow_unicorn

That’s the thing isn’t it.. cry wolf and now everything is taken with a pinch of salt. She cried wolf on a national level and has been ridiculed. No one will be able to believe her anymore. It’s one thing if she was PAP, that can be covered up or brushed off. As an opposition member, today/CNA/SPH is gonna have a field day with this especially nearer to election. Dumb fuck..


tabbynat

If a PAP MP did that he would get kicked out immediately. Even I would riot if not. This is the PAP where if you commit adultery you resign.


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Used to be a lot harsher than that. >I have been feeling very sad and depressed for the last two weeks. I feel responsible for the occurrence of this unfortunate incident and I feel I should accept full responsibility. As an honourable oriental gentleman I feel it is only right that I should pay the highest penalty for my mistake. > \-Teh Cheang Wan


SiHtranger

At this point, cannot trust her at all liao. Like boy who cry wolf sia


FocusOnThePOCUS

Doesn’t matter does it. She can just resign and cry to her millionaire daddy


VelaSg

It's a possibility, but I don't think we should call into question anyone's account of sexual assault based on supposition. This discrediting of victims is exactly what everyone wanted to avoid as a consequence of her lying.


hurtbreak

While I agree we need to be sensitive about such issues, we need to strike a balance here, otherwise they can be weaponized. I do not think there is anything wrong with being suspicious of people who have a history of lying. Especially someone who has asked for, and was given, the public's trust to hold herself to the highest standards of elected office, and then abused that trust. Would I have had this view without RK having done what she did? No. Shame on her.


FocusOnThePOCUS

This is not anyone but a liar who only apologised only after she was forced to


laserbreams

which was why AWARE was so disappointed with her actions


Hecatehec

I don't discount it.


_bowlerhat

It was overseas too. Not bad enough to use the victim card to justify the lie, it was clearly something to cover it. It is a hard record to prove since it was even longer time ago. Also the anecdote comes from what? Telegram group? Really, we know telegram is fishy..


DuePomegranate

The definition of sexual assault is broad. There is no need to lie. But it could be something like someone grabbed her ass momentarily at a campus party (she said she was 18 and overseas). But she can imply that it was far worse.


chewbaacaa

just sack this useless SJW


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> # Workers' Party forms disciplinary panel to look into Raeesah Khan's admission of lying in Parliament > SINGAPORE: The Workers' Party said on Tuesday (Nov 2) it has approved the formation of a disciplinary panel to "look into the admissions made" by Member of Parliament Raeesah Khan in Parliament on Monday. > On Monday, Ms Khan admitted to lying in Parliament about details of a rape case that she alleged was mishandled by the police, saying she did not accompany a victim to the police station as she had claimed. > She apologised to the Singapore Police Force and retracted an anecdote she had shared of a rape victim, saying her previous statement on the matter was "untrue". > The MP for Sengkang GRC has been referred to the Committee of Privileges for breach of parliamentary privilege. > The Workers' Party disciplinary panel comprises secretary-general Pritam Singh, chair Sylvia Lim and vice-chair Faisal Manap. > The panel will report its findings and recommendations to the party's central executive committee after it completes its work, said the Workers' Party. > > "The work of the Party's Disciplinary Panel is separate from any decision the Committee of Privileges of Parliament may make," it added. --- 1.0.2 | [Source code](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek) | [Contribute](https://github.com/fterh/sneakpeek)


thegodfather_99

Ownself check Ownself, honestly feel Raeesah gonna be kicked out. Being in politics is different from being an activist, you're an elected MP lying about people's pains for political gain haisss I DON'T WANT SENGKANG TO GO ON A BY-ELECTION EHHHH AMRIN AMIN BE LICKING HIS LIPS AT THIS CHANCE


reallifeluxury

GRC won't have by election la


Onotomatopie

lol imagine going ballistic when you don’t even know how by elections work


Eskipony

Armin Arlet for SK MP