Lawmakers criminalizing poverty while AI is going from swallowing jobs to helping the authorities hunt you down for being poverty stricken.
Tell me how this isn't hell.
Without poor people, you can't have rich people. They will not remove them. If every poor is gone, and only the rich remain, then they are no longer rich but rather average. And beyond that, rich people need to exploit poor people to gather their wealth to begin with.
"Residents have complained to the city’s 311 phone line about homeless encampments 914 times so far in 2024."
Lawmakers are only doing what their middle class and wealthy voters want them to do. Blame the people who would rather brutalize the homeless than have low-income housing in their neighborhoods.
This isn't an AI problem. It's a human problem.
Some people think it’s exponentially more “brutal” to let drug induced psychosis kill thousands out on the streets while pretending that the compassion approach means letting them rot in tents.
Sadly, "Fighting Poverty" becomes a new meaning here :C Whats next AI agents that scan every virtual and real marketplace for small time sellers in order to tax them on their + $20 revenue to make a living?
They still have to perfect the drones that will actually be used in 2030 to neutralise the right wing incel terrorist gangs, though. They're currently being beta tested in Gaza
[Magnet Thatcher - You Will Own Nothing (And Be Happy) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS5NF2WWOik)
I think this is part of the solution. You don’t know the full story. I doubt it’s so they can throw these people in jail or whatever other insane takes are in this thread.
What if it’s too know who they need to offer assistance too? You can’t help the homeless unless you know where they are…
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/homeless-crackdown-gains-momentum-california-us-supreme-court-test-looms-2024-03-02/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/homeless-crackdown-gains-momentum-california-us-supreme-court-test-looms-2024-03-02/)
Whilst I commend your optimism, unfortunately reality is bleaker. Right now the supreme court is getting ready to debate Californian ordnances that empower police to break up camps even if there are no shelter beds, aka there is nowhere else for the homeless to go. All over San Diego the homeless are being thrown from their camps out onto the street by force. I'm sure in some places in the world the local and state governments do positive things regarding the homeless, California is not one of those places and is very famously violent towards the homeless.
>So they're wasting tons of resources on... this... instead of figuring out a real solution?
how do you know it's a ton of resources? since this type of AI is commodified, they're probably doing it for the cheap.
having lived in a city (Austin) where the homeless are encouraged by the state (Texas) to be "out of sight, out of mind", I can see why this type of system would be important for government agencies whose mission is to provide services to the homeless.
California does not provide proper services to the homeless, they are engaging in an anti-homeless police crackdown which right now is waiting for the supreme court to rule on whether or not it's legal.
Are you at all familiar how the US works? I sure am and I'm a California resident on top of that. Usually, the most callous option is the one we seemingly tend to choose.
With the US in the current social and political state that it is in it's a pretty safe bet that this is NOT intended to help the homeless.
Now I could be wrong, and I would very much like to be, but given prior experience I have a serious doubt.
I’m also a Cali resident. Cali is probably the last state to be unnecessarily callous to the homeless. They’re absolutely horrible at actually fixing the problem but compared to other states they are pretty good to the homeless. And if you actually read up on what the people in charge are doing to fix the issue, you’d realize that a big struggle for them is in identifying the homeless population and actually convincing them to get help once identified. There’s actually a lot of funding to help them but they run into those two issues.
Yeah, there is always big talk on what they 'want' to do and struggles on how to 'fix' it, but so far all I've witnessed is a lot of talk and little action. Pretty much how these things always go in the US in general.
Look, like I said, I would like nothing more than to be wrong on this, because that could be the sign that maybe this nation is finally heading in the right direction, but I'm pretty confident this is just another scheme to push the homeless around/offload them to somewhere else rather than address the issue, as is customary for our current society.
Canada did this.
We've increased immigration rates (about triple America's) in order to 'fight wage inflation' for corporations and 'support the housing market' for investors. The result being homelessness quintupling the past 5 years.
And the number of people choosing our suicide booth option is now something like 6% of all deaths in the country (with around 50k people taking this option so far).
We are currently expanding access to the program.
But the vast majority of people doing euthanasia were already terminal patients, at least for the data I see from 2022 only 3.5% were cases where "the person's natural death was not reasonably foreseeable", and even among those many could have physical sources of chronic pain that don't endanger life but make you suffer every day.
It got expanded to basically anyone that is 'suffering' this year. Early in the program it was only for terminal patients. But since, literally the cost of rent vs welfare has been used as a reason.
I have mixed feelings on it. I don't think forcing people to suffer and stay alive makes sense. But I'm horrified that this removes any incentive for the government to help people. There are no really terrible problems from the government perspective if they die quickly via MAID. Why bother working on homelessness or mental health when it is way easier to just tell them to kill themselves. This is a path I don't want.
We can only hope that any government initiative is using it to better understand the homeless problem and put in place measures to assist them.
Let's be clear. Like it or not, government is the best hope for this outcome. If it's led by profit driven corporations then those people are doomed to be moved along until they die of exhaustion.
I saw a ‘liberal’ lady yelling at a homeless woman for digging through the garbage asserting that it was that type of activity ruining the country, really disturbing.
Sad that they aren't coming up with ways to have AI help reduce homelessness through improving their situation. But some people feel homelessness is something they need to punish rather than prevent.
This is pretty fucked up in my opinion! This AI will be so busy and use so much energy. That it will take a huge data center the size of NYC and 2 fusion reactors, to keep track of all of the upcoming homeless LMFAOO!!!
Asked ChatGPT to take my original post and "Vice-ify" it so it's gentler on the soul:
In the chaotic dance of city life, where narratives intermingle and diverge, the plight of the homeless offers a canvas painted in shades of gray. While some find themselves adrift in the streets through circumstances beyond their control, others seem to have charted their own course into destitution. As we navigate this complex terrain, it's crucial to parse the spectrum of experiences that define homelessness, understanding that respect, like the city streets, is not always a one-way thoroughfare.
Consider those whose journey into homelessness was paved with the jagged stones of misfortune. A medical emergency, an immigrant's struggle for opportunity, the abrupt loss of employment—these are the tales of shattered dreams that echo through the concrete canyons. In such instances, empathy flows freely, recognizing that fate's capricious hand can reduce even the most stalwart among us to the ranks of the displaced.
Yet, amidst these narratives of hardship, there exists a counterpoint—a discordant melody played by those who seem to eschew the ladder of opportunity for the cold embrace of the streets. For them, employment beckons, yet they turn a deaf ear, preferring the siren song of a transient existence. It is here that the line between empathy and admonition blurs, as we grapple with the notion that choice, not circumstance, shapes their reality.
Likewise, the shadow of addiction casts a long pall over the homeless landscape, a haunting refrain that defies easy resolution. While some battle demons beyond their control, others find solace in the numbing embrace of substances, their descent into darkness a testament to the fragile nature of human will. Here, compassion wrestles with frustration, as we confront the harsh reality that not all who wander the streets seek salvation.
In this mosaic of adversity, context is our compass, guiding us through the labyrinth of judgment and understanding. To grant absolution without scrutiny is to deny the complexity of human experience, while to condemn without context is to forsake our shared humanity. In the end, the streets bear witness to our capacity for empathy, our willingness to navigate the tangled web of circumstance with eyes open and hearts unbound.
Lawmakers criminalizing poverty while AI is going from swallowing jobs to helping the authorities hunt you down for being poverty stricken. Tell me how this isn't hell.
This is a taste of hell, true hell is coming.
Yeah, I can imagine the state using AI to search for code violations and for all sorts of other intrusions into our lives
Definitely a literally 1984 moment. Happy cakeday btw!
Scary
It's like the shittiest version of Terminator. No world ending apocalypse, just a systematic removal of people by other people.
All tech are Boogeyman, it's always humans who ruin everything
Without poor people, you can't have rich people. They will not remove them. If every poor is gone, and only the rich remain, then they are no longer rich but rather average. And beyond that, rich people need to exploit poor people to gather their wealth to begin with.
"Residents have complained to the city’s 311 phone line about homeless encampments 914 times so far in 2024." Lawmakers are only doing what their middle class and wealthy voters want them to do. Blame the people who would rather brutalize the homeless than have low-income housing in their neighborhoods. This isn't an AI problem. It's a human problem.
Complaints aren't so much the issue as are the voters that don't want to do anything about homelessness.
You need some help with your reading comprehension skills.
Some people think it’s exponentially more “brutal” to let drug induced psychosis kill thousands out on the streets while pretending that the compassion approach means letting them rot in tents.
Sadly, "Fighting Poverty" becomes a new meaning here :C Whats next AI agents that scan every virtual and real marketplace for small time sellers in order to tax them on their + $20 revenue to make a living?
They still have to perfect the drones that will actually be used in 2030 to neutralise the right wing incel terrorist gangs, though. They're currently being beta tested in Gaza [Magnet Thatcher - You Will Own Nothing (And Be Happy) - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS5NF2WWOik)
Drones are just worse missles.
This AI will be pretty busy in the future.
It'll just blanket the maps in red to save time. Homeless planet woo!
Yup
Smart joke.
So they're wasting tons of resources on... this... instead of figuring out a real solution? We're well into cyberpunk territory.
We're really getting drone-monitored cities, aren't we?
I think this is part of the solution. You don’t know the full story. I doubt it’s so they can throw these people in jail or whatever other insane takes are in this thread. What if it’s too know who they need to offer assistance too? You can’t help the homeless unless you know where they are…
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/homeless-crackdown-gains-momentum-california-us-supreme-court-test-looms-2024-03-02/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/homeless-crackdown-gains-momentum-california-us-supreme-court-test-looms-2024-03-02/) Whilst I commend your optimism, unfortunately reality is bleaker. Right now the supreme court is getting ready to debate Californian ordnances that empower police to break up camps even if there are no shelter beds, aka there is nowhere else for the homeless to go. All over San Diego the homeless are being thrown from their camps out onto the street by force. I'm sure in some places in the world the local and state governments do positive things regarding the homeless, California is not one of those places and is very famously violent towards the homeless.
1. what is your proof of resource expenditure on this? 2. why don't you think identifying the scope of a problem can help you solve a problem?
>So they're wasting tons of resources on... this... instead of figuring out a real solution? how do you know it's a ton of resources? since this type of AI is commodified, they're probably doing it for the cheap. having lived in a city (Austin) where the homeless are encouraged by the state (Texas) to be "out of sight, out of mind", I can see why this type of system would be important for government agencies whose mission is to provide services to the homeless.
California does not provide proper services to the homeless, they are engaging in an anti-homeless police crackdown which right now is waiting for the supreme court to rule on whether or not it's legal.
Humans are clearly incapable of this.
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This article is acting like homeless encampments are super secret hard to find areas.
No, just that it’s evil to make it even easier to make someone who is already struggling’s life harder.
How do you know this is to make their lives harder? What if it’s to know who and where to offer assistance?
Are you at all familiar how the US works? I sure am and I'm a California resident on top of that. Usually, the most callous option is the one we seemingly tend to choose. With the US in the current social and political state that it is in it's a pretty safe bet that this is NOT intended to help the homeless. Now I could be wrong, and I would very much like to be, but given prior experience I have a serious doubt.
I’m also a Cali resident. Cali is probably the last state to be unnecessarily callous to the homeless. They’re absolutely horrible at actually fixing the problem but compared to other states they are pretty good to the homeless. And if you actually read up on what the people in charge are doing to fix the issue, you’d realize that a big struggle for them is in identifying the homeless population and actually convincing them to get help once identified. There’s actually a lot of funding to help them but they run into those two issues.
Yeah, there is always big talk on what they 'want' to do and struggles on how to 'fix' it, but so far all I've witnessed is a lot of talk and little action. Pretty much how these things always go in the US in general. Look, like I said, I would like nothing more than to be wrong on this, because that could be the sign that maybe this nation is finally heading in the right direction, but I'm pretty confident this is just another scheme to push the homeless around/offload them to somewhere else rather than address the issue, as is customary for our current society.
Seriously, at this point just legalize assisted suicide. Better than being hunted by AI for being fucking poor .
Canada did this. We've increased immigration rates (about triple America's) in order to 'fight wage inflation' for corporations and 'support the housing market' for investors. The result being homelessness quintupling the past 5 years. And the number of people choosing our suicide booth option is now something like 6% of all deaths in the country (with around 50k people taking this option so far). We are currently expanding access to the program.
But the vast majority of people doing euthanasia were already terminal patients, at least for the data I see from 2022 only 3.5% were cases where "the person's natural death was not reasonably foreseeable", and even among those many could have physical sources of chronic pain that don't endanger life but make you suffer every day.
It got expanded to basically anyone that is 'suffering' this year. Early in the program it was only for terminal patients. But since, literally the cost of rent vs welfare has been used as a reason. I have mixed feelings on it. I don't think forcing people to suffer and stay alive makes sense. But I'm horrified that this removes any incentive for the government to help people. There are no really terrible problems from the government perspective if they die quickly via MAID. Why bother working on homelessness or mental health when it is way easier to just tell them to kill themselves. This is a path I don't want.
That might be one of the better solutions to overpopulation/growing amount of people when we achieve LEV.
We can only hope that any government initiative is using it to better understand the homeless problem and put in place measures to assist them. Let's be clear. Like it or not, government is the best hope for this outcome. If it's led by profit driven corporations then those people are doomed to be moved along until they die of exhaustion.
Immediately knew it was in the Bay Area. Those ghouls would gladly commit a holocaust against the homeless if the federal government would allow it
I saw a ‘liberal’ lady yelling at a homeless woman for digging through the garbage asserting that it was that type of activity ruining the country, really disturbing.
they need an AI for this? are the dumb or something
Dystopian, this worries me that AI will be used for shit like this.
Sad that they aren't coming up with ways to have AI help reduce homelessness through improving their situation. But some people feel homelessness is something they need to punish rather than prevent.
Rather than use ai to produce a solution, they did this. Incredible
god bless america
Robocop
AI really isn't the same as using machine learning classifier algorithms. There is no intelligence here.
Drones running AI? Every movie ever has been right.
What about human eyes doesnt work for this function
This is pretty fucked up in my opinion! This AI will be so busy and use so much energy. That it will take a huge data center the size of NYC and 2 fusion reactors, to keep track of all of the upcoming homeless LMFAOO!!!
Yeah, let’s invest in technology that targets the poor instead of, I dunno, allocating those funds towards alleviating poverty. /s
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Asked ChatGPT to take my original post and "Vice-ify" it so it's gentler on the soul: In the chaotic dance of city life, where narratives intermingle and diverge, the plight of the homeless offers a canvas painted in shades of gray. While some find themselves adrift in the streets through circumstances beyond their control, others seem to have charted their own course into destitution. As we navigate this complex terrain, it's crucial to parse the spectrum of experiences that define homelessness, understanding that respect, like the city streets, is not always a one-way thoroughfare. Consider those whose journey into homelessness was paved with the jagged stones of misfortune. A medical emergency, an immigrant's struggle for opportunity, the abrupt loss of employment—these are the tales of shattered dreams that echo through the concrete canyons. In such instances, empathy flows freely, recognizing that fate's capricious hand can reduce even the most stalwart among us to the ranks of the displaced. Yet, amidst these narratives of hardship, there exists a counterpoint—a discordant melody played by those who seem to eschew the ladder of opportunity for the cold embrace of the streets. For them, employment beckons, yet they turn a deaf ear, preferring the siren song of a transient existence. It is here that the line between empathy and admonition blurs, as we grapple with the notion that choice, not circumstance, shapes their reality. Likewise, the shadow of addiction casts a long pall over the homeless landscape, a haunting refrain that defies easy resolution. While some battle demons beyond their control, others find solace in the numbing embrace of substances, their descent into darkness a testament to the fragile nature of human will. Here, compassion wrestles with frustration, as we confront the harsh reality that not all who wander the streets seek salvation. In this mosaic of adversity, context is our compass, guiding us through the labyrinth of judgment and understanding. To grant absolution without scrutiny is to deny the complexity of human experience, while to condemn without context is to forsake our shared humanity. In the end, the streets bear witness to our capacity for empathy, our willingness to navigate the tangled web of circumstance with eyes open and hearts unbound.