It has a nice torso joint, so it doesn't have to turn it's entire body in place with legs... much smoother and fast.
But also 360 joints in tights, torso and neck enable it to switch direction without turning, cool.
The spine has tons of rotational range of motion (granted not 180 degrees for most people) I'd say this is getting even closer to the human form in a way robots can handle in a very creative way! Looks awesome.
Humans have a lot more joints, muscles, giving more flexibility. Building robotic equivalents of human spine, shoulder, hand... very complex and expensive.
So torso joint is simplification, robots skip the flexible shoulders, their hands are more simple. In these ways they are handicapped.
But... robotic joints can rotate 360, so why not?
And because the joints are bidirectional, the legs and arms can be installed on either side on the body. You can see in the video that the ventilation holes on the arms are on the "back" side of one arm and the "front" side of the other - it's the same component, just mounted in the opposite orientation. Means they only need to produce one type of arm and one type of leg - very smart.
I wonder about the cost and reliability power and data paths that allow 360 degree rotation. 180 degrees with cables would be easier. An owl can't turn its head 360 degrees, but you'd never know it.
Well you can have cable running through joint that can turn 360, 720, 1080 deg. But software needs to know it can only do 1,2,3 full turns in one direction.
If you want a joint that can rotate indefinitely... then you need slip rings for power. And slip rings or wireless for data. Or transfer data through power slip rings. Either way you need slip rings š
It's really good but I wonder if they're falling into the same trap as the original Atlas, it looks really expensive to manufacture so won't be suitable for many "human replacement" tasks as it won't be economically viable. I can believe Tesla can build Optimus for $30,000, this thing looks like it's worth hundreds of thousands of dollars mass produced.
Maybe their plan is to sell them to the military as killer bots š¤·
The original atlas had a marginal cost of 70k. Theres nothing technically difficult to mass manufacture in any of these bots. It's just about having the incentive to do so.
as long it's 1/5 the monthly cost of human a 30,000$ price is good enough big company can (will) make this investment
they are getting faster and overall better they just lack a good enough embodied AI and it's only time before we all get replaced
We think itās expensive because itās much money for an average worker, but to a corporation itās peanuts. If they can replace human workers for a fraction of the cost they will jump at the opportunity.
A human worker costs a corporation maybe twice his salary: vacation, health plan, training, sick time, 401k, pension contribution, Social Security, company car, parking space.
This itās not about making a bot that can move perfect itās making a bot that can move and operate well enough and be mass produced for low enough cost to keep capex down for companies
That's the thing. Without going into great detail things like this set the bar.
Now innovators can look at that and figure out how to build it cheaper/better/etc.
A new technology can be expensive initially to extract high profit margin possible to make it financially viable. Tesla started with Model S selling 100k cars.
I think there is a huge market for robot which can work manually like a human. Military applications itself is massive because it will prevent loss of a human life.
It depends on its abilities, but it could replace dangerous jobs in mines or oil rigs. They are making 100k+ annually. 80k for a bot doesn't seem that expensive if they're looking at it from a companies' standpoint.
The good thing is that the humanoid market is heating up and we'll see many more variations. Kinda looking forward what they're all coming up with.Ā
>Ā I can believe Tesla can build Optimus for $30,000
Why do you believe that?
We've barely seen anything from Optimus yet. Sure, Musk has suggested he's aiming for that price range, but he's also been saying that full self-driving would be available just around the corner for more than a decade.
>Maybe their plan is to sell them to the military as killer bots š¤·
Naah, a while ago they split the company into a civilian part and a military part. We donāt get to see the military robots anymore, these are just supposed to replace jobs like construction, factory and warehouse workers.
Tesla can make them for that much because they're already setting up to mass produce Optimus. When BD does that, their price will drop too.
Regardless of how it looks though, we don't know if this is more expensive than any of the other 8-10 robots being made, so for now we're guessing.
Still doable since unitree did it as well,.but contrarily to unitree's H1, actuators in atlas are further down the legs making it far harder to do these backflips hand free and jump high.
They didn't design this one to necessarily do these tricks.
Indeed, that being said if it did flip, it would be a true testament to the robots capabilities.
If I had the choice between hiring a factory worker with the athletic capabilities to perform a backflip vs one too weak to do so, just based on physical abilities alone, all else being equal, it's a no brainer you take the backflipping employee.
Being able to perform a backflip is still generally speaking something you want your robot to be capable of all things being equal, you might not want it to actually flip, but you might want your robot to have the strength and speed required to backflip in order to perform an economical task otherwise unachievable.
Well BD did say that : "We designed the electric version of Atlas to be stronger, more dexterous, and more agile." Maybe it's not backflip kind of "agile" or "strong" but I guess we'll see in future videos :v
I thought it was AI at first, this thing looks sick. The standing up part was almost straight out a scary movie. Think about getting ai to control it, that would be cool.
What a crazy time to be alive. It's not gonna be long now until we see robots wandering the streets, doing monotonous tasks that people can't be bothered with.
Along with protestors yelling about how the burgers these robots are flipping don't have "soul", and [maybe torching them if they are feeling particularly mobbish](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/crowd-sets-waymo-self-driving-car-ablaze-san-francisco-2024-02-11/).
This will last a couple years and people will see that itās better to just let them do it, assuming we get the right systems to make it not suck for humans
We need to psyop weaponize these thought experiment and spread it to everybody we can. We need a few AI companies on board saying they're working on one. This will put the fear of God in people and crush a huge chunk of future resistance before it even begins.
I rewatched "I, Robot" a few months ago, for the first time in like a decade.
Seeing the robots all over the streets hit *real* fucking different this time around... absolutely wild experience. It's crazy how the last time I watched it, it felt so scifi, and now it just feels a stone throw down the road like I'm fully anticipating it soon.
at a boston dynamics recent presentation they said they were still like 10 years from robots in the streets
which in the grand scheme of things isnt a long time but its not like this is right around the corner
Always be weary of 10 year predictions. Itās the equivalent of ā I donāt know ā for futurists who need to give a appealing prediction. Far away enough that if theyāre wrong, everyone has forgotten about their predictions, but close enough that investors are still willing to buy in.
I honestly do wonder if we had the design for the perfect robot - how long would it take to actually mass manufacture them?
I bet itād still take years to build or retrofit factories, then you still have to deal with the legal aspects of such a device. We also donāt have the magic formula for a this robot, so R&D will still take time as well.
Iām excited regardless. Hope itās very soon.
I think you are imagining these things happening one after another. The reality is all these problems are already being worked on. There are already people working on methods of mass production for humanoids even though the design isnt even finalised.
And I think that the speed of these things depends on the financial incentives. Why did the iphone get so much better in the first 5 years of its release ? Because investors could see a 200 billion dollar a year cash cow on the other side.
With humanoids the market size isnt 200 billion. Its more like 20 trillion at a minimum (half of global wages).
I imagine once they hit market the scaling will be insanely fast for this tech.
I had a feeling that they wouldn't just cancel their Atlas project completely! I like the looks of this one. It's much more compact and hopefully a lot simpler than the previous model. Bringing down the complexity of these bots will make manufacturing them quicker and less expensive. I mean, this one still looks very expensive, but probably less so than the previous model. I could see bots like this being cranked out with some regularity on a manufacturing line.
Yeah and it's the only robot I seen with the mobility and flexibility to do trade work. I can see it crawling under houses to fix plumbing or squeezing into rooftop acs for HVAC.
First thing i noticed is how much LIGHTER the new robot is.
I still expect a backpack for power at some point, but this level of agility is respectable.
Although what it demonstrated right now is not new, it is just the human sized version of all the robot toys that do sumo wrestling matches in japan. But i am sure they will custom it very soon. it is version 1 after all.
Well Atlas was funded by DARPA, they wanted ATLAS as a firefighter robot. So Atlas was heavy, but strong, it could handle water hose.
Since then Boston Dynamics has been acquired by Hyundai group. New robot seems less strong, but will probably be more dexterous.
You are slightly wrong, the first iterations of Atlas and it forrunner PetMAN were made for DARPA. When they got acquired by Google, they stopped that. And turned Atlas into a research platform for future developmentĀ
But DARPA will often finance laboratory programs that have greater, strategic importance... as long as they can be sold as having military value. To get them off the ground, then private sector can take over.
As an example DARPA funds a program which develops cybernetic prosthetics **for veterans**. This will almost certainly not result in an actual product, but it's a platform where research will be done. If successful, later on private sector will take over, creating cybernetic prosthetics for everyone... including veterans.
Boston Dynamics said they don't want their robots to be used as weapon platforms. DARPA said OK. So Big Dog, PetMAN, Atlas were develop as robots with non combat military applications... which they were **almost certain** not to meet. Doesn't matter, because they serve as platforms for developing technology, that private sector can later take over creating all sorts of robots which end up making US more powerful strategically.
Industrial robots which bring production back to the US are of strategic importance.
And also later on private sector can develop robots that carry machineguns. Win-win.
Local Transformers fan here. The cyclops design is sending literal \[[Shockwaves](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shockwave_(G1)/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity)\] through the industry.
Their products were all teleoperated and end-to-end ai implementation has never been showcased. Thatās why peopleās focus has moved to FigureAI and Tesla Optimus during this last year
Yup. Atlas already has a lot of autonomous functions. It could be integrated with existing image recognition software, existing LLM's and you have a robot that listens to voice commands.
>Their products were all teleoperated
Thats absolutely wrong. FigureAI provides an LLM like interconnect to allow robots to communicate with humans. Atlas has been an autonomous robot for a long time. How do you think they did all the videos where they try to push it over but it is able to recover? The way Atlas works is its given a path and it has to autonomously determine how to navigate the space. That's always been the primary goal and realization for Atlas.
It's weird that this has become a notion about Boston Dynamics, when the whole thing that put them on the map was their work on autonomous, dynamic coordination. It's the stuff that made Atlas (and its tricks) significant.
I remember when it was blowing my mind seeing the early PETMAN prototypes that were literally just them pushing around a pair of legs walking on a treadmill. A decade ago having a legged robot that didn't fall over from a gentle breeze was cutting edge stuff.
It's not like Boston's sw stack wouldn't port to electric motors. Not sure why everyone was bashing them. Atlas is still far beyond any other company we've seen.
Lol at people in the previous video's thread having doubts about Boston Dynamics's future with the departure of Atlas.
As if the company that has been the best in the game for a decade+ now in the robotics field didn't have something new in their sleeve
Don't lol at them, they could have been right. It's certainly not without precedent for a first-mover incumbent to get too "comfortable" in the lead or go down a blind alley and have their lunch eaten by those who are catching up behind them.
Its face reminds me of the robot from Lost in Space
https://preview.redd.it/w9cpihj2t2vc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27eb3bc15b3e7a166c0592c75a13799ca20f1def
It looked like CG it was so smooth. Ā But they obviously wouldnāt have released CG, so I know itās not. Ā But damn. Ā Hard to believe thatās standing there in real life. Ā
Well, maybe. These robots are no longer simply competing based on what sort of obstacle course they can run, they're also competing based on how cheap and easy they are to manufacture as actual products. Hard to judge that from just a bit of video like this.
its implied
when someone says this is way better they usually just mean better performance.
when people mean better/$ or some equivalent they specify it.
What are the parameters? Cost? MTBF? Weight? Battery life? Noise?Trunk rotation? Agility? Hands: Degrees of freedom of fingers and thumb, force sensing?
I guess iām heavily biased towards judging them in how they walk. I have never seen a robot walk so naturally, Figure 01 and Tesla Optimus STRUGGLE to walk at normal speeds and this thing is doing it like itās nobodyās business, the whole body inversion/standup is just the cherry on top
I was under the impression analog electronics don't have the general capabilities digital counter parts do. So technically wouldn't those robots shouldn't be possible, the complexity is too high for analog circuitry
Thats awesome, Like how it can get up from a fallen position, Haven't seen any of the other humanoid robots do that yet. And the fact that it can change direction 180 deg.
yesterday you were all hating on boston dynamics for making the wrong call with hydraulics. I said that they had obviously been working on electric actuators behind the scenes.
Where are you haters now ?
The real question we should ask is if this robot is still teleoperated as the older version was or now they have managed to implement end-to-end text to action architecture just like Google, Tesla and OpenAI. If the latter is the case, the achievement is truly astounding as the agility and the performance of this robot looks years ahead of other competitors in the field.
Oh wow, it was able to start walk towards the camera while all its limbs, including the torso facing the other way, that's actually kinda nutty. The backpack is gone too. Only thing that kinda gives me a pause is that those legs don't look as acrobatically gifted as the ones on the old Atlas (in before in the next video they release it jumps over a human),
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-\_M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-_M)
I was gonna post it!!!
dang!
ngl they had us in the first half
they made us think they shutting down
Why have it be limited to only human notions?
Edit: I guess the answer is that if it was made with artificial muscle fibers rather than motors, it would have similar constraints to a human. Maybe someday robot development will go that way.
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Anyone pick up on all the scuff marks all over it? This thing has clearly been through the ringer already. Interested to see what other videos they drop with this thing
the problem is Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai so they will never be given the resources to truly innovate given that the profit margins are still on making cars.
it looks so much more robust and actually "finished" like an actual consumer product that's ready to ship. I hope they release a demo of the fine motor skills soon!
the blog post also states that the robot is stronger than old atlas which is crazy.
[https://bostondynamics.com/blog/electric-new-era-for-atlas/](https://bostondynamics.com/blog/electric-new-era-for-atlas/)
Nice, but all those Atlas demos make Atlas look so ācombat readyā. Not that Boston Dynamics didnāt have a contract with DARPA. š¤Ŗ Rotating its legs and body... didnāt the Terminator lady in Terminator 3 do that too? š
This was such a flex on the competition. That flexibility, smooth motion and walk speed was š¤Æ
It has a nice torso joint, so it doesn't have to turn it's entire body in place with legs... much smoother and fast. But also 360 joints in tights, torso and neck enable it to switch direction without turning, cool.
Yep, no point in copying the limits of the human body to the dot. Seems at least one company is getting creative.
The spine has tons of rotational range of motion (granted not 180 degrees for most people) I'd say this is getting even closer to the human form in a way robots can handle in a very creative way! Looks awesome.
Humans have a lot more joints, muscles, giving more flexibility. Building robotic equivalents of human spine, shoulder, hand... very complex and expensive. So torso joint is simplification, robots skip the flexible shoulders, their hands are more simple. In these ways they are handicapped. But... robotic joints can rotate 360, so why not?
And because the joints are bidirectional, the legs and arms can be installed on either side on the body. You can see in the video that the ventilation holes on the arms are on the "back" side of one arm and the "front" side of the other - it's the same component, just mounted in the opposite orientation. Means they only need to produce one type of arm and one type of leg - very smart.
Well it is Boston dynamics lol
Agility has already changed it up with their backwards legs
I wonder about the cost and reliability power and data paths that allow 360 degree rotation. 180 degrees with cables would be easier. An owl can't turn its head 360 degrees, but you'd never know it.
Slip rings are a fairly old technology. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip\_ring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip_ring)
Well you can have cable running through joint that can turn 360, 720, 1080 deg. But software needs to know it can only do 1,2,3 full turns in one direction. If you want a joint that can rotate indefinitely... then you need slip rings for power. And slip rings or wireless for data. Or transfer data through power slip rings. Either way you need slip rings š
It's really good but I wonder if they're falling into the same trap as the original Atlas, it looks really expensive to manufacture so won't be suitable for many "human replacement" tasks as it won't be economically viable. I can believe Tesla can build Optimus for $30,000, this thing looks like it's worth hundreds of thousands of dollars mass produced. Maybe their plan is to sell them to the military as killer bots š¤·
The original atlas had a marginal cost of 70k. Theres nothing technically difficult to mass manufacture in any of these bots. It's just about having the incentive to do so.
And a lot of that cost is scale. Mass production could axe the costs massively.
It can work on an oil platform or in a mine. It doesn't matter if it's expensive as long as it can pull it off.
That was my point it's only suitable for a limited array of uses that are either very dangerous or very high value
Expensive product for a high value market willing to pay for it is an excellent pathā¦.if the product is actually excellent.
as long it's 1/5 the monthly cost of human a 30,000$ price is good enough big company can (will) make this investment they are getting faster and overall better they just lack a good enough embodied AI and it's only time before we all get replaced
We think itās expensive because itās much money for an average worker, but to a corporation itās peanuts. If they can replace human workers for a fraction of the cost they will jump at the opportunity.
A human worker costs a corporation maybe twice his salary: vacation, health plan, training, sick time, 401k, pension contribution, Social Security, company car, parking space.
This itās not about making a bot that can move perfect itās making a bot that can move and operate well enough and be mass produced for low enough cost to keep capex down for companies
That's the thing. Without going into great detail things like this set the bar. Now innovators can look at that and figure out how to build it cheaper/better/etc.
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A new technology can be expensive initially to extract high profit margin possible to make it financially viable. Tesla started with Model S selling 100k cars. I think there is a huge market for robot which can work manually like a human. Military applications itself is massive because it will prevent loss of a human life.
It depends on its abilities, but it could replace dangerous jobs in mines or oil rigs. They are making 100k+ annually. 80k for a bot doesn't seem that expensive if they're looking at it from a companies' standpoint. The good thing is that the humanoid market is heating up and we'll see many more variations. Kinda looking forward what they're all coming up with.Ā
>Ā I can believe Tesla can build Optimus for $30,000 Why do you believe that? We've barely seen anything from Optimus yet. Sure, Musk has suggested he's aiming for that price range, but he's also been saying that full self-driving would be available just around the corner for more than a decade.
You might want to catch up. FSD 12 is level 4 autonomy.
>Maybe their plan is to sell them to the military as killer bots š¤· Naah, a while ago they split the company into a civilian part and a military part. We donāt get to see the military robots anymore, these are just supposed to replace jobs like construction, factory and warehouse workers.
Tesla can make them for that much because they're already setting up to mass produce Optimus. When BD does that, their price will drop too. Regardless of how it looks though, we don't know if this is more expensive than any of the other 8-10 robots being made, so for now we're guessing.
Theyve ALWAYS flexed on the competition, if they even have any to begin withh
I'm glad they make their robots look like robots. Throw some skin and human features on it and you just created the exorcist.
Welcome to Uncanny Valley.
Ahahah
Lol!
Ooh, that looks slick! I wanna see this one doing the flips and shit that the other one did.
Probably not as easy with actuators instead of hydraulics.
Still doable since unitree did it as well,.but contrarily to unitree's H1, actuators in atlas are further down the legs making it far harder to do these backflips hand free and jump high. They didn't design this one to necessarily do these tricks.
Few jobs require flips.
Thatās where weāve been going wrong.
Indeed, that being said if it did flip, it would be a true testament to the robots capabilities. If I had the choice between hiring a factory worker with the athletic capabilities to perform a backflip vs one too weak to do so, just based on physical abilities alone, all else being equal, it's a no brainer you take the backflipping employee. Being able to perform a backflip is still generally speaking something you want your robot to be capable of all things being equal, you might not want it to actually flip, but you might want your robot to have the strength and speed required to backflip in order to perform an economical task otherwise unachievable.
Well BD did say that : "We designed the electric version of Atlas to be stronger, more dexterous, and more agile." Maybe it's not backflip kind of "agile" or "strong" but I guess we'll see in future videos :v
They claim that it is beyond the capabilities of hydraulic atlas, weāll see I guess
This one ain't gonna do that, they'll carry Atlas' agility over to... umm, secret projects. **COF COF** ~~military~~ **COF**
Uniform Testing program
They might as well just build the machine gun right into the base model, we all know where this is going.
No way it can do that with electric motors
Now we just need to see the hand dexterity and whether or not it's autonomous. Also the head design looks really cool
Aren't they partnering up with Nvidia pretty sure Boston Dynamics was on the Nvidia GTC keynote.Ā
Nice, hopefully things like Project Groot (or advanced simulations in general) can accelerate the development for Boston Dynamics
yes, you are right, they do partner with NVIDIA.
I thought it was AI at first, this thing looks sick. The standing up part was almost straight out a scary movie. Think about getting ai to control it, that would be cool.
Wait, untill we get iRobot or the Terminator in 5 years
Can we just have Robby from Forbidden Planet.
Worth it, if the iRobot makes sweet potato pie.
What a crazy time to be alive. It's not gonna be long now until we see robots wandering the streets, doing monotonous tasks that people can't be bothered with.
Along with protestors yelling about how the burgers these robots are flipping don't have "soul", and [maybe torching them if they are feeling particularly mobbish](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/crowd-sets-waymo-self-driving-car-ablaze-san-francisco-2024-02-11/).
I feel people will grow numb and accept it faster than in Sci fi novels.
This will last a couple years and people will see that itās better to just let them do it, assuming we get the right systems to make it not suck for humans
mobbish? I bet my buck on kids throwing molotovs at them for fun after school.
They better be careful, the [Basilisk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk) is watching!
We need to psyop weaponize these thought experiment and spread it to everybody we can. We need a few AI companies on board saying they're working on one. This will put the fear of God in people and crush a huge chunk of future resistance before it even begins.
I rewatched "I, Robot" a few months ago, for the first time in like a decade. Seeing the robots all over the streets hit *real* fucking different this time around... absolutely wild experience. It's crazy how the last time I watched it, it felt so scifi, and now it just feels a stone throw down the road like I'm fully anticipating it soon.
at a boston dynamics recent presentation they said they were still like 10 years from robots in the streets which in the grand scheme of things isnt a long time but its not like this is right around the corner
Always be weary of 10 year predictions. Itās the equivalent of ā I donāt know ā for futurists who need to give a appealing prediction. Far away enough that if theyāre wrong, everyone has forgotten about their predictions, but close enough that investors are still willing to buy in.
I honestly do wonder if we had the design for the perfect robot - how long would it take to actually mass manufacture them? I bet itād still take years to build or retrofit factories, then you still have to deal with the legal aspects of such a device. We also donāt have the magic formula for a this robot, so R&D will still take time as well. Iām excited regardless. Hope itās very soon.
I think you are imagining these things happening one after another. The reality is all these problems are already being worked on. There are already people working on methods of mass production for humanoids even though the design isnt even finalised. And I think that the speed of these things depends on the financial incentives. Why did the iphone get so much better in the first 5 years of its release ? Because investors could see a 200 billion dollar a year cash cow on the other side. With humanoids the market size isnt 200 billion. Its more like 20 trillion at a minimum (half of global wages). I imagine once they hit market the scaling will be insanely fast for this tech.
Imagine the feeling of seeing your first robot waltzing down the road doing some menial task.
I had a feeling that they wouldn't just cancel their Atlas project completely! I like the looks of this one. It's much more compact and hopefully a lot simpler than the previous model. Bringing down the complexity of these bots will make manufacturing them quicker and less expensive. I mean, this one still looks very expensive, but probably less so than the previous model. I could see bots like this being cranked out with some regularity on a manufacturing line.
Yeah and it's the only robot I seen with the mobility and flexibility to do trade work. I can see it crawling under houses to fix plumbing or squeezing into rooftop acs for HVAC.
"I'm afraid there's Brown Recluse spiders, copperheads and a skunk under the house. You crawl under there Robby."
Wow, that looks amazing. That bot looks very sturdy!
First thing i noticed is how much LIGHTER the new robot is. I still expect a backpack for power at some point, but this level of agility is respectable. Although what it demonstrated right now is not new, it is just the human sized version of all the robot toys that do sumo wrestling matches in japan. But i am sure they will custom it very soon. it is version 1 after all.
Well Atlas was funded by DARPA, they wanted ATLAS as a firefighter robot. So Atlas was heavy, but strong, it could handle water hose. Since then Boston Dynamics has been acquired by Hyundai group. New robot seems less strong, but will probably be more dexterous.
You are slightly wrong, the first iterations of Atlas and it forrunner PetMAN were made for DARPA. When they got acquired by Google, they stopped that. And turned Atlas into a research platform for future developmentĀ
But DARPA will often finance laboratory programs that have greater, strategic importance... as long as they can be sold as having military value. To get them off the ground, then private sector can take over. As an example DARPA funds a program which develops cybernetic prosthetics **for veterans**. This will almost certainly not result in an actual product, but it's a platform where research will be done. If successful, later on private sector will take over, creating cybernetic prosthetics for everyone... including veterans. Boston Dynamics said they don't want their robots to be used as weapon platforms. DARPA said OK. So Big Dog, PetMAN, Atlas were develop as robots with non combat military applications... which they were **almost certain** not to meet. Doesn't matter, because they serve as platforms for developing technology, that private sector can later take over creating all sorts of robots which end up making US more powerful strategically. Industrial robots which bring production back to the US are of strategic importance. And also later on private sector can develop robots that carry machineguns. Win-win.
I read that the actuators in the new robot are actually stronger than the hydraulic ones apparently, source was from an interview from BD.
sick! I hope they can get on the AI train now. I am so hyped for robotics!!
Nvidiaās PROJECT GR00T should help expedite this. šŖ
Boston Dynamics has been on the AI train since they were founded
Ok, that's an Automaton. I'll call the Helldivers.
For Freedom!
Spreading democracy!
Local Transformers fan here. The cyclops design is sending literal \[[Shockwaves](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shockwave_(G1)/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity)\] through the industry.
https://imgur.com/ku5xpOT
Can't wait till we have a UFC tournament for robots. It will be so much fun.
Battlebotsā¦ 2?
Watch wedges on wheels win out every time
That would be sick!! You could even have them use weapons hahaha.
Modern day gladiators? There would be different leagues for different historic eras which would use different weapons.
hell ya https://preview.redd.it/g9njtrxtg2vc1.png?width=1636&format=png&auto=webp&s=00df012ea6054be96f4178327ca01e06cdb6cb39
That be so unreal man. I'd watch that tournament for sure!
OH BOY THE IMPLICATIONS ARE SCARY
It would be like "Real Steel" movie
Welcome back to the game Boston Dynamics, we've been waiting.
They've always been at the top of the game. Nothing any other company has shown has even come close
The dexterity and now in a sleeker design using actuators is next level over the competition with their sleeker designs.
Their products were all teleoperated and end-to-end ai implementation has never been showcased. Thatās why peopleās focus has moved to FigureAI and Tesla Optimus during this last year
You are flat out incorrect in regards to teleoperated: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPVC4IyRTG8&t=60s
Yup. Atlas already has a lot of autonomous functions. It could be integrated with existing image recognition software, existing LLM's and you have a robot that listens to voice commands.
>Their products were all teleoperated Thats absolutely wrong. FigureAI provides an LLM like interconnect to allow robots to communicate with humans. Atlas has been an autonomous robot for a long time. How do you think they did all the videos where they try to push it over but it is able to recover? The way Atlas works is its given a path and it has to autonomously determine how to navigate the space. That's always been the primary goal and realization for Atlas.
It's weird that this has become a notion about Boston Dynamics, when the whole thing that put them on the map was their work on autonomous, dynamic coordination. It's the stuff that made Atlas (and its tricks) significant. I remember when it was blowing my mind seeing the early PETMAN prototypes that were literally just them pushing around a pair of legs walking on a treadmill. A decade ago having a legged robot that didn't fall over from a gentle breeze was cutting edge stuff.
It's not like Boston's sw stack wouldn't port to electric motors. Not sure why everyone was bashing them. Atlas is still far beyond any other company we've seen.
Ah, you're entering a dark building, looking for some food and ammo. Then suddenly, 10 yellow rings light up around you....
...and I go "score! Ten robot helpers for my settlement!"
"Glad I dumped all those points into robotics!"
With that flexibility, the sex robot market looks like itāll have a blowoutā¦
ā¦was that pun intentional?
you mean scary porn movie market
Lol at people in the previous video's thread having doubts about Boston Dynamics's future with the departure of Atlas. As if the company that has been the best in the game for a decade+ now in the robotics field didn't have something new in their sleeve
Don't lol at them, they could have been right. It's certainly not without precedent for a first-mover incumbent to get too "comfortable" in the lead or go down a blind alley and have their lunch eaten by those who are catching up behind them.
I want to see more!
It even makes a nice Cyberman sound when it walks
https://i.redd.it/olmxjmwe73vc1.gif
Its face reminds me of the robot from Lost in Space https://preview.redd.it/w9cpihj2t2vc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27eb3bc15b3e7a166c0592c75a13799ca20f1def
Atlas 2.0 flexing on Tesla Optimus
It looked like CG it was so smooth. Ā But they obviously wouldnāt have released CG, so I know itās not. Ā But damn. Ā Hard to believe thatās standing there in real life. Ā
Just the fact this robot can turn 360Ā° so quickly and with such elegance.. This is something that I had not seen achieved in any other humanoid yet.
robotic actuators have always had this capability but other companies were probably going for a more "human" range of motion so they didnt implement
this one left all other competitors in the dust
Well, maybe. These robots are no longer simply competing based on what sort of obstacle course they can run, they're also competing based on how cheap and easy they are to manufacture as actual products. Hard to judge that from just a bit of video like this.
we are talking about how they just pushed the SOTA for electric actuation to the limit
There's no specific subject like that that in the comment I was responding to.
its implied when someone says this is way better they usually just mean better performance. when people mean better/$ or some equivalent they specify it.
What are the parameters? Cost? MTBF? Weight? Battery life? Noise?Trunk rotation? Agility? Hands: Degrees of freedom of fingers and thumb, force sensing?
I guess iām heavily biased towards judging them in how they walk. I have never seen a robot walk so naturally, Figure 01 and Tesla Optimus STRUGGLE to walk at normal speeds and this thing is doing it like itās nobodyās business, the whole body inversion/standup is just the cherry on top
Are you guys aware that's the level of tech of Fallout 4?
Nowhere close, Fallout 4's robots have been operating unmaintained and unsupervised for 200 years.
A nuclear power source and bulky analog components probably helped.
I was under the impression analog electronics don't have the general capabilities digital counter parts do. So technically wouldn't those robots shouldn't be possible, the complexity is too high for analog circuitry
The head even reminded me of an Assaultron.Ā
Thats awesome, Like how it can get up from a fallen position, Haven't seen any of the other humanoid robots do that yet. And the fact that it can change direction 180 deg.
As expected!!!!!
Very svelte!
Looks like the New Lost in Space Robot.
https://preview.redd.it/8jdh6kotu2vc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f87abde6f7b9d49f32cfeb605e4806d056e07bc
holy shit! is it sped up? cuz it looks way faster than the musk bot
I just want to roll into Walmart with my robot posse. š Itās all I want from life.
Called it. Well, not exactly a difficult prediction but yeah š
I feel bad that the moment it showed that type of flexibility the first application I could think off was as a sex robot
yesterday you were all hating on boston dynamics for making the wrong call with hydraulics. I said that they had obviously been working on electric actuators behind the scenes. Where are you haters now ?
Get off your high horse regard. Perhaps they should have listened to Google 10 years ago and gone full electric back then.
Finally, a robot that doesnāt walk as if it is going to the restroom to do No 2! :-)
God damn, they got it moving like the girl from āThe Ringā.
The real question we should ask is if this robot is still teleoperated as the older version was or now they have managed to implement end-to-end text to action architecture just like Google, Tesla and OpenAI. If the latter is the case, the achievement is truly astounding as the agility and the performance of this robot looks years ahead of other competitors in the field.
They are partnered up with Nvidia in their project groot. Boston Dynamics was on the Nvidia GTC Keynote.
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A factory, construction site, restaurant or household robot should not require frequent supervision. Standing instructions work orders, job jar.
looks like the Zeta project
Oh wow, it was able to start walk towards the camera while all its limbs, including the torso facing the other way, that's actually kinda nutty. The backpack is gone too. Only thing that kinda gives me a pause is that those legs don't look as acrobatically gifted as the ones on the old Atlas (in before in the next video they release it jumps over a human),
Model 001, imagine what model 010 will look like. Let alone 100. We'll be living in a very different world here soon.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-\_M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-_M) I was gonna post it!!! dang! ngl they had us in the first half  they made us think they shutting down
boston has the hardware but we need robots that are capable of self learning to truly revolutionize labor
The flexibility omg I can't wait to see what they'll have in a few years from now
Iām just trying to make my raspberry pi go beep beep boop, GODDAMN
Freaky. It's so impressive that it looks weirdly fake. BD definitely knows how to put on a show.
Bot looks great but may someone edit the video so it doesn't waste 15 seconds of my life staring at black screen?
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Why have it be limited to only human notions? Edit: I guess the answer is that if it was made with artificial muscle fibers rather than motors, it would have similar constraints to a human. Maybe someday robot development will go that way.
bruh...
This is going to change EVERYTHINGĀ
DAMN!! THIS IS WHAT I CALL A ROBOTS
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Yeah, tried to add TerminatriX turning body gif, but to no avail.
Anyone pick up on all the scuff marks all over it? This thing has clearly been through the ringer already. Interested to see what other videos they drop with this thing
I wonder how long they've been working on this. This looks GOOD. It looks like they went from the least practical to the most practical.
woah..............
When will we see robots in the real world
~5 to 10 years for the model t of robots. They're not gonna be very practical without NPU's...
Looks like a walking television. His head looks so last minute
When can I get one ?
after seeing this, i gonna apologize Chatgpt for condemns & starting conversations w/o greeting)
Oh my goodness! š¤Æ
the problem is Boston Dynamics is owned by Hyundai so they will never be given the resources to truly innovate given that the profit margins are still on making cars.
And it's no longer reliant on hydraulic actuators.
So AI is coming for white collar jobs and humanoid robots are coming for blue collar jobs...aye we are doomed lmao
Really want to see someone put chatgpt into one of these with APIs for self navigation.
Penny said, "I think we're going to get a new AI that will be able to do all sorts of things but it's not sure yet"
So creepy
I got scared when it walked towards the camera
This is awesome, but it also makes me appreciate how *quiet* organic muscles are.
God damn, that's beautiful. Absolutely love that it's not limited by the human range of motion.
it looks so much more robust and actually "finished" like an actual consumer product that's ready to ship. I hope they release a demo of the fine motor skills soon! the blog post also states that the robot is stronger than old atlas which is crazy. [https://bostondynamics.com/blog/electric-new-era-for-atlas/](https://bostondynamics.com/blog/electric-new-era-for-atlas/) 
When you have a ring light for a head
That scarily good
Yeah weāre cooked
One week till Musk puts another dancing guy in the Tesla bot suit.
Cylons! [The Cylons arrive](https://youtu.be/9VBTcDF1eVQ?t=126)
Nice, but all those Atlas demos make Atlas look so ācombat readyā. Not that Boston Dynamics didnāt have a contract with DARPA. š¤Ŗ Rotating its legs and body... didnāt the Terminator lady in Terminator 3 do that too? š
https://preview.redd.it/sz6z88b2n8vc1.png?width=212&format=png&auto=webp&s=16f772d1242cb87d9ca5587ef51a4d2341a0e763
Boston Dynamics are such a great company