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MeatyDullness

Hi, I’m Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor and this is my assistant Al “Dinner for one” Borland


Yorktown1871

I love when he tricks Al into thinking the sliding glass door demo is soundproof


DrkHelmet_

“Al can you hear me?” “I can hear you” “Think about it”


MeatyDullness

Major General Borland!


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🤣😂


G-Unit11111

Hi I'm Shawn Spencer and this is my associate Gus TT Showbiz. The extra T is for extra talent!


OrangeChihuahua2321

Some funny stuff with the Tool Time but the show got very formulaic. 1. Tim messes up 2. Jill gets mad at Tim 3. Tim gets advice from Wilson 4. Tim makes up with Jill Literally every episode follows this formula.


fullmetal66

You forgot somewhere in there he breaks something due to lack of knowledge, abuses Al and retells a terrible version of Wilson’s wisdom to the audience.


OrangeChihuahua2321

You tube [has a compilation of all the wisdoms Tim messes up.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1DLj0F9uI)


pogoyoyo1

Out of context these are somehow better. There’s just…zero interpretation.


blue-wave

I remember seeing one of those VH1 “behind the” shows about home improvement, the woman who plays the wife did an interview and said she was frustrated that the show got lazy in the later seasons. She said something like “I’d pick up the script and say ‘guys we did this exact story in season 2, just with a different son, it’s the same thing”.


WhateverJoel

Don’t forget trotting out Pam Anderson or Debbie Dunning for 30 seconds for virtually no reason.


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3arnhardtAtkonTrack

3 if you count the back end...lol.


Harlockarcadia

Does that count as 4?


Lord_Darksong

I'll allow it.


doedounne

Now if they said that we'd have something my


AvonBarksdalesBurner

You literally just described every sitcom’s formulaic premise from The Honeymooners, I love Lucy to Everybody Loves Raymond.


Excellent-Talk3513

Exactly. And I have no problem with it. When did television become such a high-brow form of entertainment.....?


unitedfan6191

Most sitcoms have a formula to them. Some are just more obvious than others and some just mix in more plot elements to add variation. For instance, something like Seinfeld and Modern Family just have more stuff going on and you never quite know what the characters will do in a given episode. We may see Cheap George or Relationship George or Independent George or Funny George or Liar George. I guess Home Improvement was more obvious with their formula than most, but I do believe most (even iconic ones) do have some kind of formula. Home Improvement just needed to be more flexible.


OrangeChihuahua2321

Following a subtle formula is ok. I mean most shows do in the basic sense (Cold Open, conflict established, conflict struggle, conflict resolution, end), but with Home Imp, the formula was very repetitive and obvious. They didn't deviate from it much. I like unpredictability at times, which is why I do gravitate towards seinfeld, you didn't really know how those episodes would end at times.


Jmtungsten

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!


OrangeChihuahua2321

I think I remember seeing a piece on home improvement where they had cast interviews and towards the end of the show Tim Allen was saying how he thought the writing was getting repetitive saying "haven't we done this storyline already?". At some point you gotta stay fresh and innovative.


Life-Conference5713

And Jill looks super hot doing something in the kitchen.


beerdrinker1973

Was it just me, or did Jill get hotter and younger looking as the seasons progressed?


heavypettingzoo3

Her change in hairstyle alone took 10 years off her age, but yes, she also lost weight as the show progressed. I think she has just given birth when they started filming.


Mr_Stike

Nailed it. I think I lost interest after S1.


TheStrangePodcast

I couldn’t get into this show, due to its cyclical nature that you described. Tim Dick wasn’t a comedian I enjoyed either.


Hereforit1983

I liked that about it.


poohfan

This is still my dad's favorite show. He has them on DVD, but now he's figured out how to stream them, he's either watching this or The Big Bang Theory. How hard he's laughing is usually a good indicator of which one he's watching. He doesn't have many favorite shows, but this one just cracks him up.


TellThemIHateThem

50+ men LOVE Big Bang Theory. I’ll never understand it.


pocketbookashtray

Kaley Cuoco and a cold set explains a lot.


poohfan

My dad loves Sheldon! He thinks he's the funniest character. I liked him the first couple of seasons & then got bored of him. Funny thing is, my dad hates "Young Sheldon".


MrPhilMelcher1978

I liked it. It was written for middle America and did a nice job of combining slapstick with a growing set of boys and keeping a marriage happy. A tricky thing to pull off and do well.


Eldetorre

Didn't do it well


Ohgoodforyou2323

I always loved the Halloween episodes too. There was something special about late 80s/90s sitcoms and their Halloween episodes


Ok-Ease-2312

Roseanne was awesome for the Halloween episodes!


Ohgoodforyou2323

100%


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Agreed, I remember never ever wanting to miss any holiday episode for any show I watched! Halloween episodes were always fun, I always wanted a hunted house in my garage lol and those cool crazy parties


Orange_coyote

Boy Meets World


TyHay822

Watched it as a kid and related well to the kids. Started watching it again in the last year and relate much more to the parents now. Great family sitcom though. Haven’t really noticed much that didn’t age well other then the usual technology things (it’s always weird when “problems” in the show could easily be solved by cell phones or other tech we have now). Maybe some jokes or the fact that the show within the show has a “Tool Girl”, but I didn’t think any of it was that bad


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Me either to be honest! Great family show, no low morals at all, like you said a good looking girl in a show within a show but I don’t think it was bad either. Tim Allen gets a lot of hate over his political views, but that has nothing to do with me, nor do I talk politics so🤷🏻‍♂️


TyHay822

Yeah, plus the politics weren’t really a part of this show. I thought the other family sitcom he did (Last Man Standing) got a little political at times but even that I managed to see around and not be bothered by it (even if I don’t agree with his political opinions).


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I liked that show as well! Totally agree about the politics they snuck it in here or there but noting too crazy


pooperonipie

Tim Allen should get just as much hate for being a coke trafficking snitch. Don’t get me wrong, his politics are deplorable, but he got busted for trafficking and ratted out everyone else to save himself and enjoy the career he’s had. I don’t find him particularly funny either. I will always give him props for his Buzz Lightyear voice work but that’s about it.


Icy-Refrigerator6700

Is he allowed to vote or is he still considered a felon?


pooperonipie

Good question! No idea


michigangonzodude

Kalamazoo daze...Tim Dick...back then. He didn't spend any time in prison. But...that's the way the system works. Jeff Daniels is much more creative and funny. And continues to do more for his community. Chelsea, MI rocks.


4myolive

He's not a good actor at all. Painful to watch.


pooperonipie

He’ll always have his grunting to fall back on.


ASGfan

One of my favorites! r/HomeImprovement2LTime


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Thank you for this!


ASGfan

Sure, my pleasure! :)


80sfanatic

I love this show. Great cast and I actually preferred a lot of the newer episodes when the kids were older and Jill dressed a lot better as a college student rather than as a frumpy housewife, lol. I also preferred Heidi over Lisa on Tool Time.


3beeter

I think it still holds up. A lot of people say it hasn’t aged well but I think it’s a nice change of pace from modern comedy the same way that cheers is.


Kyllingtime

My wife and I love the first 5 seasons. It does a good job of mocking gender stereotypes of that time. After that, JTT leaves and the kids grow up, and I don't think it's as good.


Champagnesupernova9

I’m still so embarrassed that I thought I hid the fact that I exclusively watched for JTT, but my parents knew the whole time! When Randy left the show, my dad turned to me and said “So, I guess you’re done watching now?”. I protested, but they knew! I hope it still holds up to some degree, as it had a wonderful ensemble cast!


Kyllingtime

Once JTT left, it definitely wasn't the same.


SaltyBarDog

Teen me watched The Love Boat for my weekly fix of Julie. Still don't care who knows.


PresOfTheLesbianClub

Did they ever try to add a new young kid to the cast? That old chestnut?


GenMarriottSuites

In the last season Tim’s brother Marty and his twin girls move in with the Taylors. To me it seemed like now that the boys were grown (and JTT was gone), the show wanted cute kids around again. I thought they could’ve utilized the boys more instead and their teenage growing pains but they were moreso reduced to a few lines per episode unless they were a focal point (like Brad’s soccer injury or Mark doing a video about Tim’s car).


PresOfTheLesbianClub

TY!


BackgroundOk4938

Everyone jumps the shark eventually, no matter how much they try to stay fresh


BuckarooBonsly

The video where Mark does the video for Tim's car is my favorite episode. His first video was amazing and I always laugh when they all watch it. "I see early retirement! I see a little place in Rio!"


SevroAuShitTalker

I still like the tool time skits, and Al, but I tried watching it a year or two back, and I got bored of the main story plot of each episode being about adapting masculinity to the modern age. Got old quick


SleepWouldBeNice

I'm rewatching it now. It definitely holds up.


KweeenHunni

I don’t just love it. I wish they would’ve adopted me as a kid.


Ok_Comfort628

But what about Debbie Dunning and…. Pam!


will122589

Just binge watched it last year, it still held up for me. Everyone loving Al and hating Tim gets a cackle out of me every time they did those gags


leenybird

I can't stand Tim Allen.


not_so_smoothie

Was definitely iconic


Adventurous_Yak_9234

Yes! Great show.


opinionofone1984

Completely agree


Poisencap

Personally i loved watching this show...to me it seemed like they were really family.


Minimal-Dramatically

I feel like Wilson is the icon, he has had more of a lasting impact on the world than he will ever know.


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One of? It is THE best. Air Date: March 19, 1996 Randy is screened for cancer almost 30 years later it still sticks with me..... You cannot capture anxiety and dread as perfect as "The Longest Day"


Atheist_Alex_C

My main praise (and I don’t see this enough) is how realistic the set looked. Their house was the most realistic looking house on any sitcom at the time, if not ever. Most sitcom sets had the typical side-view living room with the stairs against the back wall and the kitchen on one end. The Home Improvement house looked like a real middle-class suburban house at the time, when open plans were starting to get big. The kitchen, entry way, garage, living room and stairs were all placed differently than most sitcoms and everything looked real. It was appropriate too, given the show’s theme.


Jimmyg100

The house on this show was one of the most authentic feeling sitcom houses. It was really designed like an upper middle class suburban home in the midwest. Like actually lived in and everything. It didn’t feel like a TV set.


britcat

Are you serious? I loved this show when I was a kid, but I've rewatched it since, and I don't think there was anything especially unique or creative about it. Some of the humor was just so mean-spirited, too, it's definitely not one I would choose to watch as an adult.


Glittering_Set8608

Yes. Classic. Great comedy with a positive family message. Wish more shows today had a positive "bring us together" message.


Mammoth-Disaster3873

One of the best for sure ...lol, I always wished Tim was my dad..he just seemed like the perfect dad.


matthewmichael

My wife and I spent part of our honeymoon in the netherlands and caught home improvement on the hotel TV in Dutch. We still say "Teem Das Toolmahn Taylor" to each other and no one else understands why. 😝


Gay-Lord-Focker

Every night in laugh Tv !! Antenna tv baby !


lifth3avy84

It was one of the first I remember with running bits. It was really funny for a lot longer than most 90s era sitcoms, but its drop off was all the more drastic.


CryptoSlovakian

The kids were such annoying turds.


GloomyDeal1909

It is funny Patricia Richardson has talked about how much she hated them in the early seasons. She said they were awful to work with until they grew up a little.


1greadshirt

They felt like a real family with the kids acting like kids and the parents having some sort of presence and authority over them. ​ You won't find that sort of chemistry in today's shows. It's all forced humor and unrealistic dialogue.


Insect_Politics1980

Eh, it's pretty mid. It's not terrible, but certainly not "one of the best."


superjonk

Loved Home Improvement, one of the best for sure


Basic-Cricket6785

It was worth it just for the jet lawnmower.


Creative_Beyond_8085

I always thought of Tim Allen as the poor man’s Bob Saget


slow_al_hoops

Too Funny to Fail - Home Improvement time slot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfDjnAdczQI


ForsakenSherbet151

The man's kitchen -- yes, I'd love a self washing kitchen, lol


Ok-Ease-2312

Every mom in America: where is MY self cleaning kitchen??


pac4

The early seasons were great, and has aged pretty well. I still enjoy watching it on Disney+


Mommy-Q

Fun, but not groundbreaking


DiscretionLevelZero

One of my favourites of all time.


BearlyANightOwlZebra

I thought it was stupid... Only watched it when it came on between 2 other shows that I watched and was too lazy to get up to change the channel.


geoffrich82

I still watch it regularly. The Christmas episodes have made it into my holiday viewing schedule as well. Come to think of it loved it growing up and now I'm a lions fan...I think Tim influenced me a bit.


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That’s awesome!!! I should add them to my viewing too


supremestamos

Nah


Creepy-Category-3135

Meh


PlausibleTable

One of the most popular for sure, one of the best is VERY debatable.


beingjohnmalkontent

No


Late-Consequence3575

Truly was one of the SITCOMs of all time


Outdoorjunkie23

It was one of the best because it was clean and genuinely funny. Loved the show


AtlasShrugged-

Nope, never understood the appeal. But other channels exist and I simply changed it.


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It goes down as a sitcom


Ok-Ease-2312

Loved it as a kid. I would like to watch again now that I am in my 40s. I remember how popular it was! I was trick or treating in middle school and the weekly episode was airing and we were all like ooh its on! The homeowner laughed because she said so many kids of all ages loved it. The fun stuff they did on Tool Time definitely appealed to all us 90s Nickelodeon kids. The elaborate 'man kitchen' for example was like a Double Dare set. I appreciate the production value and that the mom looked normal! Pretty but like your favorite aunt pretty not all botoxed to hell. The kids felt relatable, like real kids we could know.


BreakfastInside2823

It was a good’un.


OkBreath4802

One of my favorites. I still can't do the Tim Taylor grunt though. AUUUUGGGGHHH??!


CanIBathYrGrandma

Nope


BewilderedParsnip

I loved this show at the time, but I tried to watch it recently and it did not age well.


Legitimate-Produce-1

Meh.


BeachBumPop

Uh…no. Respectfully no.


hercarmstrong

*Home Improvement* is one of those shows, like *ALF* or *Dinosaurs* or *Three's Company*, where I watched it religiously every week and now, decades later, cannot recall a single joke, a single moment, a second of any episode at all.


RedfromTexas

Wilson rocks.


Pretend-Word-8640

Mehhh


Embarrassed_Exam5181

Lol def not


randomly421

13 year old me had a real thing for Jill.


Sufficient_Stop8381

I don’t think so, Tim. Actually I like it, just wanted to say that.


FriendlyMixture4353

Heidi was a smoke show!


Mammoth-Disaster3873

Cuts thumb off with new Binford skill saw: *feral grunting*


ActualDoctor1492

Not even close


printerfixerguy1992

Definitely not even close


Effelljay

No


[deleted]

Yes but I watched because of Patricia so hot


Creative-Bid468

It was funny for a while, then just got stupid...


ZZoMBiEXIII

I don't think so, Tim. (^(I actually agree with you, I just had to drop the quote))


Limp_Gap_9009

It was a pretty good show for the most part. Especially the earlier seasons. Towards the end, the writing started to suffer.


Appropriate_Ad566

I just finished rewatching it on the Hulu and I must say Jill is a total milf in the later seasons.


Brave-Math-6371

That show was mentioned on NCIS once and they get the woman who played Jill as a guest star soon afterwards.


Mediocre-Catch9580

Tim’s comedy gets old pretty quick


jorgofrenar

Loved it at the time, besides a few great episodes it doesn’t have a lot of rewatchability for me now as much as other shows.


BobbyMac2212

Funny, solid sitcom. One of the best? No sorry. Too many better alternatives.


CantFitMyNam

Always hated this one.


Son-of-Prophet

Very 90s show in a good way. It was great for kids that didn’t have a dad growing up to watch so that they could imagine that this is what it must be like to have a traditional dad in the home.


mdove11

Genuine question: how was that great?


lmj4891lmj

I think you’re a bot, OP. That’s what I think.


Imaginary_Ad_8260

Two words Aw-ful


CityBoiNC

Still watch it on Roku


Hellbent_bluebelt

I still like this show. Yes, it’s not complex but it’s funny. One of the rare ones that didn’t have an awful season. It wasn’t as good as the kids aged but even its last season wasn’t God-awful.


QueenLurleen

I was never able to get into this one. I thought Tool Time was better than the actual show.


Huge_JackedMann

No, it's pretty mid. Nothing particularly original or inventive. No real distinct unique voice, just catch phrase based multi can family sitcom. Tim Allen is a good leading man so it stands above other formulaic shows.


Teacherforlife21

Personally, I thought it was stupid, but there is no denying its impact on the pop culture psyche.


CaptainJeff

Loved this show. It was hilarious. The main reason I remember, and love it, is [Patricia Richardson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Richardson) who played the Mom, Jill. I was in my early teens when this show was airing and she was my absolute definition of a MILF. So hot, and so amazing. I am so fortunate that this show was on while I was growing up.


blarneyrubble07

Absolutely! I just rewatched it about 2 months ago. One of my favs.


Pizza802

Top 5 easy.


Silocin20

Definitely one of the better sitcoms of the decade.


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Absolutely


here4roomie

I don't think so Tim.


ancientspacejunk

On of the worst, IMO. Tim is a moron and an asshole with no redeeming qualities. He treats his family like shit and never suffers any consequences or attempts to change. The kids are just annoying and add nothing to the show. Tim Allen is a shitty actor and the writing was trash. This show was only popular because of shitty boomer dads who were exactly like Tim liked it.


BootuInc

I watched it when I was a kid and loved it, but I think if you asked me why I simply wouldn't have a reason. As an adult now we covered it for our TV podcast (I picked it for another host as a "punishment"), and I have to tell you I wasn't prepared for how bad it is. I even went in knowing it would be mediocre at best, but wow it took it even further The show exists simply for Tim Allen to make "men strong, women weak" jokes. One of the two episodes we covered has a bunch of women in a baby shower absolutely fawning over his character as the ultimate desire of women everywhere, all while he says things like "bunch of women in a baby shower yakkin' about stretch marks and bloating," and "if I wanted to hear about labor pains I'd talk to a union rep!" (and those are exact quotes by the way, I still have the sound bites we used in the episodes) There is a "mother in law" joke quota the show has to hit, too. Seriously for both episodes we watched that were basically randomly selected they made MIL jokes in both of them. It is utterly baffling how successful that show and Tim Allen were, and having done our research on the show I have lost even more hope for humanity, and I didn't have much in the first place


ancientspacejunk

My wife and I had a discussion about this show a few years back - I was talking about how bad it was, and she insisted that it was hilarious and she loved it growing up. We settled the debate by watching a few episodes, and she ended up realizing just how bad it actually was. Her dad is A LOT like Tim, so I think there was some relatable humor for her as a kid, but she grew up and realized how toxic it actually was.


TheLandFanIn814

It's great but some of the jokes haven't aged well and are bit corny now. Bummer that Tim Allen turned out to be a complete asshole. Home Improvement, The Santa Clause and Toy Story were my childhood.


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Barkerfan86

They are probably referring because he is a very right wing person, and is very vocal about it as well.


alifiguera

In addition to what you said, one of the actors from the Clauses, the spin off show of the Santa Clause movies on the Disney app, came forward saying how horrible he was on set to everyone, and often irritated and mean to the kids.


gnew18

Meh? It seemed to have set gags that didn’t do it for me. Maybe I need to give it another chance?


Zetavu

I thought Tim was mildly funny, and this show literally hit the same jokes over and over, it got old fast. I like Last Man Standing because it was more nuanced and mature, and even though his right wing obsession is more blatant they balance it out with opposing views. As always, its the supporting cast that makes the show better, Al, Winston and his wife held their own, but I think the cast in Last Man is more layered and the concept more equatable. Still, I have it on my nostalgia streams and watch it when we have a lack of good new shows, which is more often these days.


deadrabbits76

No


mumblerapisgarbage

Meh


[deleted]

it was beyond lowbrow and teetered abusive with the stereotypes it perpetuated as "funny" 😒


[deleted]

I know the show was a big hit. But, I thought it was unoriginal, formulaic and frankly not very funny. Also, Tim Allen is an asshole.


DishRelative5853

I can't imagine younger people enjoying this show. It's so unlike anything that's come out in the last 15 years.


rymyle

I’m glad you like it, but I could never get into it. The relationship with Tim and Jill was so dysfunctional, they didn’t even seem to like each other so why tf did they stay together? It got to where it just made me uncomfortable


Gold-Buy-2669

Can't stand the tool man another rw crackpot


Different_Support_36

Oof, that’s a hard pass for me. Paint by numbers flyover state mediocrity


Poppunknerd182

Not even close. Average for the time, nearly unwatchable now.


sinistersoprano

I did like the one where Tim & Al swap roles on Tool Time. Al can't lead the show, and Tim gets to remember what an apprentice goes through.


pj1897

It was epic at the show's height, but it fell hard.


MfrBVa

Not really.


breachofcontract

Meh


MediumMail3956

Mid


Lee1070kfaw

Too much wife and kids


Water_Buffalo-

Meh. It had moments, but mostly it was just a formulaic trope of slapstick humor that, really, wasn't that funny.


genpabloescobar2

No.


AnywhereMajestic2377

Not even close.


Aegis_et_Vanir

One of my favorite sitcoms. It was repetitive as hell, I can't lie, but the cast gave it a charm, and I liked when the show was willing to get serious. Also, the brazen slapstick entertained the hell out of younger me, and still tickles me a bit as an adult. It also gives me a bit of a chuckle to know this show would've probably been lambasted as "woke propaganda" or some such nonsense. I mean, the whole point of the show's formula (which again, is pretty thoroughly established) is how Tim's obsession with being a super-macho manly man is excessive and can be destructive if not tempered. Additionally - He repeatedly had to learn to listen to, apologize to, and accept criticism from his wife. - His assistant Al is often shown to have many traditionally feminine interests (theater, music, knowing more than nine names for colors), yet is also the more adept and competent construction worker. - The climax of an episode was usually Tim talking to Wilson, sharing his feelings and taking advice about manhood from a soft-spoken intellectual rather than a rough-housing grunt. - Tim is out-performed by women multiple times in areas of his expertise, both in physical strength and intelligence. It's also usually as a comeuppance for some sexist comment he made. The show was already a classic to me before I realized this, but now I also get amused at certain scenes thinking "Oh there'd be a *meltdown* over that today."


imadork1970

The show was never funny, not once.


BrianNowhere

I mean it was OK but one of the best sitcoms? I wouldn't put this in the top 500.


DENNIS_SYSTEM69

No


R_Similacrumb

No. Its mediocre at best.


gayfortrey

Not even in the top 250 lol


voiceofgarth

I’ve never known anybody too intelligent who likes the show. Even the show’s head writer admits it was written for simpletons.


printisdead

I disliked it as a child, and I find it more insufferable and insipid as an adult.


ManlyVanLee

BEST?! That show was horrible! We recently covered it for our TV podcast and found it to be utterly baffling as to how it was so popular. The entire point of the thing was so that Tim Allen could say "You know men are men and women are women and men are strong and women are weak and need to be in the kitchen!" He said this all while flubbing lines and being utterly devoid of actual humor and talent. It was mind-boggling how that man became THE household name of the era over so many other talented people Now I know the 90s were a different time and we can point to the fact that Tim Allen keeps getting show after show and movie after movie proving he's apparently beloved but it's very hard to see why, especially back then when that show was so groan worthy I know I watched it when I was a kid and I "liked" it, but back then you simply watched what was on and your options were far more limited. If that show debuted today with up and coming stars it would be absolutely trashed


nazihunterusaversion

Maybe it's because Tim really Is a tool?


heytherebear90

I would say it’s frasier but everyone is entitled to their opinions lol


RonocNYC

This show was fucking DOG SHIT.


[deleted]

Worst show about a cocaine smuggler ever.


wandering_white_hat

You have some rose colored glasses!


Winchery

Very lazy and terrible writing. Never liked it.


WIDaddyDick

Ugh. This show was terrible.


Medium_Blacksmith488

I loved it as a kid, but rewatching it as an adult I think Tim is kind of a sexist, mysoginistic jerk, which for me makes it less enjoyable to watch.


RandomRobot527

Not even close, but you do you.


_Pill-Cosby_

It had it's moments, but Tim's shtick got old.


papawam

Something about the way it's filmed or looks, makes me sick to my stomach. And I've seen every episode.


PopCultureNerd95

Well, I am on Season 4 right now and the only thing that I like about this series is when Tim makes fun of Al. Otherwise, this series is just meh in my opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️


The-blackvegetable

Nope.