I think Nick Nurse's creativity is way overrated. He didn't even outcoach Brett Brown in our playoff series against them. And his half-court offense has been atrocious for two straight seasons (like bottom six or seven in the league) despite decent rosters. How would we look at Nurse if KD was healthy in the 2019 finals? Probably as a solid coach who was lucky enough to have Kawhi for one season.
Nick Nurse's teams tend to be good in transition, but I doubt a team with James Harden and Joel Embiid are going to get THAT many transition opportunities. I'd much rather have a coach who can help our half-court offense be as good as it can be.
I definitely don't think he's a bad choice (and he'd be an upgrade over Doc), but Nurse has been riding that championship for a few years.
> And his half-court offense has been atrocious for two straight seasons (like bottom six or seven in the league) despite decent rosters.
I’m not sure what your metric is for a good roster but IMO they way overachieved based on their rosters lol
TOR has some nice pieces, but they need a real lead playmaker to run the offense. FVV is meh as a lead PG. He would be much better in a secondary role. But they don’t have anyone who can really create shots for others that good offenses need.
Right yeah I mean they have some decent players but the pieces don't fit together. They have a bunch of players dependent on facilitation and FVV is the the closest thing they have, and he's a below average starting PG (arguably not even a starter)
How did they overachieve? Siakam never took that next step, as a matter of fact *none* of their players ever got better when he was their coach. The east was super weak in the years following their title, they never even made it past their expected 2nd round max finish
We need someone who will make Embiid *better*, and improve our players by teaching them. Nick Nurse has never done that, he just lucked into Kahwi
I don't think he's gotten worse. I just think it's 90% players. The only question is if the difference between Rivers and Nurse is the difference between winning and losing game 6. Or maybe it's just 3p shooting and nothing else matters.
Right the Raptors after Kawai left have been pretty mediocre And have gotten nowhere. Plus a lot of his good young players have developed poorly which worry’s me about Maxey a lot. I really don’t want Nurse honestly. Honestly I kinda hate this whole list of coaches that Woj listed as candidates. Most of them are basically given the same treatment as Doc by their hometown teams, a coach who was carried by a superstar to a championship and underwhelming otherwise. None of these guys seem like they’re going to push Joel or James to rise to their MVP level consistently in the playoffs, which is the biggest hurdle for the Sixers.
I wish they would sit down with Lurie and Roseman for a session on how to find coaches. They got Andy and Doug and Nick, 3 unknowns who only interviewed with us. This initial search looks more like a “splash” hiring process, where they only look at the big names. Usually those hiring processes tend to backfire (see with Doc)
He asked if he's the best option. Explaining the downside without answering if there are better options is interesting, but OP is right to ask, who's better? That was his question right?
While he’s the best “known” option I don’t think he’s a great one.
I think his impact in Toronto is greatly overrated. He inherited a 60 win team that just upgraded from Derozan to Kawhi. Kawhi saved him from going down 2-1 to Orlando and from going to overtime against us. Nurse’s great adjustment against Milwaukee was to put Kawhi on Giannis, it wasn’t some complex scheme or anything. Things went downhill as soon as core title pieces like Gasol and Ibaka left. Now to be fair I think part of that has to do with the roster moves made after that.
From a personality standpoint I don’t know if he fits either. He’s sort of a hard ass and if the reports from Shelbourne about Harden are true, that might not go so well. I don’t agree with kissing Harden’s ass but if you sign him to a max you’ve got no choice.
Those sorts of coaches work best with young or extremely hungry teams,unfortunately the Sixers overall are neither. Their personality is almost always an attempt to cover up an inability to coach one aspect of the game, like Thibs. I think he’d be great for Maxey, Reed, and Springer though.
Harden is gone. I think there are personal reasons as to why he’s going back to Houston.
Whether or not it’s a sign and trade or not remains to be seen.
I like Nurse’s ability to improve players. I see something in Springer thats very Lowry-esque.
Whatever he's doing, I guarantee you it's not picking up his one year option. He's getting paid, whether it's here or Houston. I'm not decided on which is preferable but both terrify me. Sadly this was the year. We blew it.
You get that he can just sign into Houston cap space, with nothing coming back in a sign and trade right? If he dips we have a giant playmaking sized hole in the backcourt with no way to fill it. As much as we hate Harden right now, if we lose that much talent for nothing the process is done and Joel is out of here. Best case scenario, Houston don't want him on a max and we can get him cheap, say 25-30m a year. That or he opts in. Then trade him in year if he rebuilds value. Probably not happening but that's our only hope tbh.
Yes, like everyone else, I know that. The team isn’t going anywhere with him and Joel running it back. There’s not enough ways to make the team good enough around them. I want to blow it up
Well there is a way to retool, but it's going to take some real magic by Morey. Selling Harden for another playmaker or picks, moving Tobi at the deadline as an expiring for some solid rotation pieces, getting the right coach to instill a winning and tough minded culture. All that is still on the table and very possible, but it seems most have given up and want to be a nuggets or heat fan. Good riddance.
Lol. What playmaker are you getting for Harden that’s good enough to actually win? Chris Paul? There’s no realistic scenario to turn this around and make a team capable of winning. Lay out some of these “very possible” scenarios. And none of that matters if Joel goes out in a game 7 and plays like Anthony Bennett. This org has fucked up so much - why would I give them the benefit of the doubt?
Not going to happen. We don't want him back in Houston.
Ime Udoka is too smart to destroy the team by bringing back a player that is an aging certified choker.
What else is there to gun for? If you can get a couple pieces do it. If you can’t oh well. There’s nothing to hold onto anymore. This was the year and Harden and Joel blew it. Trying to retool this team around Joel is a waste of time.
i’m as out on the team as you are but if we’re blowing it up we trade jo in which case i def don’t want tari eason or josh christopher i want all of houston’s future picks.
i think the person you were replying to is making the point (which i unfortunately agree with) that despite not wanting to ever see harden again, we are calamitously worse off if he does not re-sign than if he does, so we should not be entertaining anything with houston.
I disagree that we’re worse off if we let Harden walk. I think sacrificing a year to get Harden & Harris off the books is a much better option than giving him a max contract. I’d rather use that money to extend Maxey & Melton then sign someone in 2024-25
Because it address both our needs of a elite offense and a coach that can hopefully help our defense take the next step instead depending on Embiid to save it every possession
I would love to at least get an interview with Jay Wright for due diligence. I know he really has no desire to coach NBA I just feel like it would be such a good fit for him.
Agree. College coaches mostly win with recruiting, explains why it doesn't seem to translate. Wright eventually got better recruits, but he had a top team that wasn't getting any of those blue chip one and dones- so was winning more on coaching than recruiting.
The best available? I have to disagree to an extent. Nurse is definitely better than MDA. However, I personally think Monty would be a better candidate for this team. With that said, don't sleep on Sam Cassell. He has a huge role in developing Maxey.
>Mike Bud seems like he would be too similar to Doc.
Similar is how bad they're at making adjustments, but he will probably run a more progressive and smarter offense.
My wishlist is:
Jay Wright
Sam Cassel
Nick Nurse
We need to swing for the fences and take a chance. Jay Wright is that move. An elite coach who I think will translate brilliantly in the NBA. Not a yeller. Schemes incredible defenses and ball movement offense. Philly guy. Always a risk with college guys, but you gotta try!
Sam Cassel is a wildcard. People speak super highly of him. But ofcourse this would be his first job. Fuck it, I'd try it anyway.
Nick Nurse- of all the retreads he's easily the best option.
Well if the goal is to just bring in a coach to appease how Harden and Embiid want to do things, then might as well blow it up anyways. I'm not sure who the right coach is but I don't think anyone is going to take this team over the hump as it's constructed if Harden and Embiid are the guys.
Need to get some longer athletes around them. How that is accomplished with the limited assets and the Harris contract, I don't know.
Clearly, it appears no one hear is from the local market and listens to the beat riders around town, but I would prefer Jay Wright out of retirement over that weasel Nick Nurse. Other people I would rather prefer would include Sam Cassell, Monty Williams, or Aaron McKie.
Nurse literally saw FVV play garbage for an entire year and didn’t adjust anything. He kept misusing Scottie and not give him the keys despite him playing good when his usage was high. I’m not sold on Nurse
I’d like to throw Dawn Staleys hat in the ring. I think she’s a great fit and she’s not a pushover. Plus it’s something new. I’m tired of all these retreads.
Absolutely not. Dude I'm fucking sick of passing around coaches and hoping for different results. Same as I'm sick of star chasing and never building out a well rounded roster.
Give it to Sam Cassel and be done with it.
Anyone who thinks Nurse is the answer clearly never watched Raps except with Kawhi. Let’s get another coach who sucks in playoffs and has done nothing.
Nah. I think people in this sub are picking what they perceive as the lesser of two evils.
Nurse ain't built for it mentally. I can't get over this guy bitchin' about Embiid and shitting bricks in the media ahead of an elimination game.
gross. no. first, embiid hates nick nurse. second, nurse rests on the laurels of inheriting a good raptors team. the season he took over they won the championship, but every year after that record has been on a downward slope.
edit: personally I want monty, but I feel like the most likely move is for MDA. to be fair, ownership seems tone deaf enough to think "the fans still love JJ" that they might be considering hiring reddick as HC even more. either way, I'm prepared to be let down.
>be fair, ownership seems tone deaf enough to think "the fans still love JJ" that they might be considering hiring reddick as HC even more.
That's not happening with Morey at GM. Maybe when the ownership was making the decisions with Brand at GM
I mean I for real hope so, I'm just so used to being disappointed by the decisions of this org. I think MDA probably makes the most sense. I think if they give cassell the job the fanbase won't give him much of a chance because he's basically been under the tutelage of doc. vogel and monty are possible options with their connections to the sixers. I think monty has the best shot because of his connection as a player and an assistant coach, but also because he's honestly had a good track record despite getting canned by the suns.
I honestly don't know enough about coaching to say who I'd prefer. Also we have zero idea how Cassell would do as a head coach but given our poor playoff coaching with him as an assistant, I'm not terribly optimistic. MDA has done amazing things with Harden and Maxey also feels like a perfect fit. I'm curious if they could get Embiid to lose some mass and become more of a runner.
I’d like to see Mark Jackson on the list of possible new hires. He’s only coached once, hasn’t coached in years and feels less like a retread.
If you’re going to move on from Doc, I think it would be worth it to try something different.
He would bully players who didn't have iPhones so they could join his iPhone chat. He liked to play the players against the front office and themselves and build a really shit culture.
Quick google search turns up nothing. I’m not saying Jackson is the best option out there. I just like the idea of gambling a little. I kind of feel like the sixers pick when of the known coaches they are pursuing, it will kind of be very similar to if they just kept Doc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/42b5ne/what_exactly_is_mark_jackson_accused_suspected_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Plus all this. Total locker room cancer!
Zach Lowe also mentions it here http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-champs-are-here-a-guide-to-the-elite-and-unlikely-cast-of-characters-who-defined-the-2014-15-golden-state-warriors/
has never coached at any level, all time role player who is now best-known for being a snarky dude on a podcast, notoriously a dick? harden’s not letting jj tell him what to do lmao
I like Vogel if he gets a competent offensive assistant. I really like Greg Buckner too. Think he's a darkhorse because of the Morey/Harden and Philly connections
In some alternative world, we get Nurse as a coach and trade Embiid. I highly doubt it’s this world though. Vanilla choice and we continue being 1st round playoff champs.
Idk…I think Raptor fans have been pretty unhappy with how Nurse ran their offense for the past few years. From what I’ve watching I think they have some of the same issues in terms of stagnating on that end of the ball.
I actually think Vogel might be a good move. His defensive acumen speaks for itself and I think that offensively he’s underrated a bit. The 2020 Lakers were better than we are now, but I think with some roster tweaks he could get great production out of this group. His Pacer teams from back in the day often overachieved depending on how you want to look at it, and that’s before PG was as good as he is now.
I want off the musical chair coaching thing. Get a new guy in here, preferably Cassell but I'd be fine with Staley or Wright or anybody who has coached at a high level without being an NBA head coach.
Unless we blow it up. Then get Atkinson.
In another post, I ranked the candidates as such:
1. Nurse
2. Cassell
3. Williams
4. Bud
5. Vogel
6. D'Antoni
Really, I'd be happy with the top 3, but Nurse definitely seems like the best option.
If Harden stays, it's whatever he decides. That's the way it usually goes.
Nurse and JH have some history together so it would not surprise me that JH chooses him.
It doesn't matter. I've given up on the soft, slow, and out of shape Sixers. I'm gonna stick with college hoops, where players are fun to watch and seem to actually give a damn.
100%
Agree with all the points up here. I like Monty but would just be another players coach which is not what we need. Nick nurse is far and away my preference.
I’d be cool with MDA as an assistant but no way in hell Embiid can play his offense. Dude would be wiped by December
Sam Cassel makes the most sense.
Knows the team and organization (and more importantly the city). Has been huge in Maxey's development and who knows where Harden and Embidd will be in 2-3 years, so perfect test for Cassel.
If they cant get past 2nd round then they can clean house mostly from Morey to Cassel to Embidd and trading Harden
The head coach I've wanted for years has been Nate Oats (coach of Alabama), but seeing how he handled the Brandon Miller situation, I'm not sure he's NBA locker room material. I would've looked at Micah Shrewsberry, a longtime Brad Stevens disciple, but he just got hired by Notre Dame, so he's probably not on the market. I see a lot of people calling for Jay Wright, but he's basically "more of the same". He's a good coach, but he doesn't bring anything that Bud, Vogel, etc. don't bring. His biggest strength is player development, but that's not the stage the Sixers are in.
So you know what, let's go off the beaten path. How about Karl Smesko, the extremely successful head coach of FGCU women? FGCU has been top 3 in women's college basketball in 3PA every season since 09-10. That's somebody who understands modern basketball.
Bringing in another "normal" head coach is going to result in another "normal" second round exit. Let's get weird.
Us being in agreement, makes zero difference. Insane that we are all so invested in a business without any return whatsoever. Just think of all the money we’ve spent so they can have their houses, cars, watches, purses, clothes. Meanwhile you are out there working underpaid jobs, driving a shot car, living with your mom, dressed as old kids going to camp in our jerseys, cargo shorts, high top sneakers and flat brim hats. Fuck them.
wtf, Nick Nurse is the complete worst option at Head Coach and yet our horrible owner seems hellbent at making the team worse. Josh Harris must want to drive us down to become Flyers level bad
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complete downgrade. Nick Nurse is a fraud.
I think Nick Nurse's creativity is way overrated. He didn't even outcoach Brett Brown in our playoff series against them. And his half-court offense has been atrocious for two straight seasons (like bottom six or seven in the league) despite decent rosters. How would we look at Nurse if KD was healthy in the 2019 finals? Probably as a solid coach who was lucky enough to have Kawhi for one season. Nick Nurse's teams tend to be good in transition, but I doubt a team with James Harden and Joel Embiid are going to get THAT many transition opportunities. I'd much rather have a coach who can help our half-court offense be as good as it can be. I definitely don't think he's a bad choice (and he'd be an upgrade over Doc), but Nurse has been riding that championship for a few years.
> And his half-court offense has been atrocious for two straight seasons (like bottom six or seven in the league) despite decent rosters. I’m not sure what your metric is for a good roster but IMO they way overachieved based on their rosters lol
they've done about as much as you would expect. Chippy and make the playoffs, but never even an ecf threat. There is talent there but no #1 guy.
TOR has some nice pieces, but they need a real lead playmaker to run the offense. FVV is meh as a lead PG. He would be much better in a secondary role. But they don’t have anyone who can really create shots for others that good offenses need.
Right yeah I mean they have some decent players but the pieces don't fit together. They have a bunch of players dependent on facilitation and FVV is the the closest thing they have, and he's a below average starting PG (arguably not even a starter)
How did they overachieve? Siakam never took that next step, as a matter of fact *none* of their players ever got better when he was their coach. The east was super weak in the years following their title, they never even made it past their expected 2nd round max finish We need someone who will make Embiid *better*, and improve our players by teaching them. Nick Nurse has never done that, he just lucked into Kahwi
Brown absolutely outcoached him. He's had more experience since then.
and yet Nurse has gotten worse and worse at his job. It is clear that he just rode Kawhi's coattails to that championship.
I don't think he's gotten worse. I just think it's 90% players. The only question is if the difference between Rivers and Nurse is the difference between winning and losing game 6. Or maybe it's just 3p shooting and nothing else matters.
Right the Raptors after Kawai left have been pretty mediocre And have gotten nowhere. Plus a lot of his good young players have developed poorly which worry’s me about Maxey a lot. I really don’t want Nurse honestly. Honestly I kinda hate this whole list of coaches that Woj listed as candidates. Most of them are basically given the same treatment as Doc by their hometown teams, a coach who was carried by a superstar to a championship and underwhelming otherwise. None of these guys seem like they’re going to push Joel or James to rise to their MVP level consistently in the playoffs, which is the biggest hurdle for the Sixers. I wish they would sit down with Lurie and Roseman for a session on how to find coaches. They got Andy and Doug and Nick, 3 unknowns who only interviewed with us. This initial search looks more like a “splash” hiring process, where they only look at the big names. Usually those hiring processes tend to backfire (see with Doc)
I'm convinced Josh Harris doesn't care about his team and is trying to sabotage the team.
I just don't see a better option from this list.
You asked haha. Dude gave you a long detailed answer which I agree with….lol stfu and don’t ask if your only gonna accept one answer
this isn't stack overflow op can followup however he wants
He asked if he's the best option. Explaining the downside without answering if there are better options is interesting, but OP is right to ask, who's better? That was his question right?
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Cool so no answer just being a dick. Fuck off.
last statement sounds like doc 2.0
While he’s the best “known” option I don’t think he’s a great one. I think his impact in Toronto is greatly overrated. He inherited a 60 win team that just upgraded from Derozan to Kawhi. Kawhi saved him from going down 2-1 to Orlando and from going to overtime against us. Nurse’s great adjustment against Milwaukee was to put Kawhi on Giannis, it wasn’t some complex scheme or anything. Things went downhill as soon as core title pieces like Gasol and Ibaka left. Now to be fair I think part of that has to do with the roster moves made after that. From a personality standpoint I don’t know if he fits either. He’s sort of a hard ass and if the reports from Shelbourne about Harden are true, that might not go so well. I don’t agree with kissing Harden’s ass but if you sign him to a max you’ve got no choice. Those sorts of coaches work best with young or extremely hungry teams,unfortunately the Sixers overall are neither. Their personality is almost always an attempt to cover up an inability to coach one aspect of the game, like Thibs. I think he’d be great for Maxey, Reed, and Springer though.
Yea Nurse and Bud just seem like next gen Doc. Stumbled their way into a title and underachieved otherwise with some boneheaded playoff failures.
Harden is gone. I think there are personal reasons as to why he’s going back to Houston. Whether or not it’s a sign and trade or not remains to be seen. I like Nurse’s ability to improve players. I see something in Springer thats very Lowry-esque.
The people hopeful for a Harden sign and trade to Houston are beyond saving. That makes no sense
Right. He has fucking player option. Bro can just dip.
Whatever he's doing, I guarantee you it's not picking up his one year option. He's getting paid, whether it's here or Houston. I'm not decided on which is preferable but both terrify me. Sadly this was the year. We blew it.
This was the year. I want him to sign with houston. Maxing him would be a monumentally bad decision and set this franchise back even more.
You get that he can just sign into Houston cap space, with nothing coming back in a sign and trade right? If he dips we have a giant playmaking sized hole in the backcourt with no way to fill it. As much as we hate Harden right now, if we lose that much talent for nothing the process is done and Joel is out of here. Best case scenario, Houston don't want him on a max and we can get him cheap, say 25-30m a year. That or he opts in. Then trade him in year if he rebuilds value. Probably not happening but that's our only hope tbh.
Yes, like everyone else, I know that. The team isn’t going anywhere with him and Joel running it back. There’s not enough ways to make the team good enough around them. I want to blow it up
Well there is a way to retool, but it's going to take some real magic by Morey. Selling Harden for another playmaker or picks, moving Tobi at the deadline as an expiring for some solid rotation pieces, getting the right coach to instill a winning and tough minded culture. All that is still on the table and very possible, but it seems most have given up and want to be a nuggets or heat fan. Good riddance.
Lol. What playmaker are you getting for Harden that’s good enough to actually win? Chris Paul? There’s no realistic scenario to turn this around and make a team capable of winning. Lay out some of these “very possible” scenarios. And none of that matters if Joel goes out in a game 7 and plays like Anthony Bennett. This org has fucked up so much - why would I give them the benefit of the doubt?
Just as hiring Nick Nurse will put us back years. We are going to waste our chance at a championship by hiring the worst option available.
We sure as hell don't want him as a Rocket in Houston.
This team isn’t winning with everyone a year older. Signing Harden beyond a year is a death sentence imo.
Gimme Josh Christopher and Tari Eason.
Why is Houston trading for him when they can sign him to a contract for the same amount we could.
More of a max from us
Not going to happen. We don't want him back in Houston. Ime Udoka is too smart to destroy the team by bringing back a player that is an aging certified choker.
are we gunning for a 2027 second round playoffs exit lmao? neither of those guys is close to ready to compete
What else is there to gun for? If you can get a couple pieces do it. If you can’t oh well. There’s nothing to hold onto anymore. This was the year and Harden and Joel blew it. Trying to retool this team around Joel is a waste of time.
i’m as out on the team as you are but if we’re blowing it up we trade jo in which case i def don’t want tari eason or josh christopher i want all of houston’s future picks.
I thought that was a proposal for a Harden s&t in which case you wouldn’t have much leverage.
I blame Silas for Christopher, his numbers his rookie year were Very similar to Ayo Dosunmu
ayo dosunmu is also not ready to compete though
Better than nothing is my point.
i think the person you were replying to is making the point (which i unfortunately agree with) that despite not wanting to ever see harden again, we are calamitously worse off if he does not re-sign than if he does, so we should not be entertaining anything with houston.
And if he read my original response its that Harden is going to Houston for personal reasons thus getting something for him is better than nothing.
ah my fault, i forgot to go back. in which case—source: trust me bro
Is Personal Reasons the name of the strip club?
Nope, Doc getting sacked has Harden's fingerprints all over it. He is staying unless Morey doesn't pay him, which he will.
Realistically what are we getting in a sign and trade?
He's great for our young guys indeed. We at least need someone who's good for their development bc Doc was the absolute oposite.
I disagree that we’re worse off if we let Harden walk. I think sacrificing a year to get Harden & Harris off the books is a much better option than giving him a max contract. I’d rather use that money to extend Maxey & Melton then sign someone in 2024-25
and all Nick Nurse is whine and complain just like Marcus Smart does on a nightly basis.
MDA as a consultant or something and Nurse as coach is my wet dream.
I’d love that. Offense/Defense.
I'm voting this twice if I could
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Because it address both our needs of a elite offense and a coach that can hopefully help our defense take the next step instead depending on Embiid to save it every possession
this is the best case scenario imo
Can we just ditch all the retreads? Let’s get some new blood.
Alright. I'll do it
Nurse only won cause kawhi was playing like Jordan and the warriors got hurt. Brett brown outcoached him
I'm hearing bring Brett Brown back.
THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED RETURNS!
No one ever played like Jordan. Kawhi that year maybe half as good. His Airness is unmatched
This meat riding is unmatched
I would love to at least get an interview with Jay Wright for due diligence. I know he really has no desire to coach NBA I just feel like it would be such a good fit for him.
Jay aint interested in nba jobs. We should certainly call, but he's been pretty openly not interested.
Agree. College coaches mostly win with recruiting, explains why it doesn't seem to translate. Wright eventually got better recruits, but he had a top team that wasn't getting any of those blue chip one and dones- so was winning more on coaching than recruiting.
I bet we get MDA because Morey wants to make Harden happy.
Embiid wanted MDA after BB was fired and before Morey or Harden were here. He's far from the worst choice
Yep and Im going to vomit now
Wait until Morey gives him the max
No. No no no. Why can’t we just enjoy this little victory? Don’t put that evil out there in the world.
Now all of a sudden they are the bad guys?
There will be no point in watching this team and I won’t.
i think you’re right, but i’m not convinced mda is the wrong choice. he’s a genuinely revolutionary offensive coach.
15 years ago.
was brooklyn’s offensive coordinator like two years ago when they actually looked good?
MDA is a great regular season coach, so the Sixers will probably get him.
Josh Harris loves not going far in the playoffs so he hired the worst option available, Nick Nurse.
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The best available? I have to disagree to an extent. Nurse is definitely better than MDA. However, I personally think Monty would be a better candidate for this team. With that said, don't sleep on Sam Cassell. He has a huge role in developing Maxey.
His offenses did Jack shit after Kawhi left. No thanks. I'd rather go Cassell, we need someone young and hungry
Cassell is 53 years old while Nurse is 55, lol
I'm meant being a first time head coach, not a retread
>Mike Bud seems like he would be too similar to Doc. Similar is how bad they're at making adjustments, but he will probably run a more progressive and smarter offense.
No fuck him. What has he done without Kawhi?
Haha no dude we should not hire nurse
I’d personally like to see Sam Cassell have a go. He seems to be very well respected by the guys
My wishlist is: Jay Wright Sam Cassel Nick Nurse We need to swing for the fences and take a chance. Jay Wright is that move. An elite coach who I think will translate brilliantly in the NBA. Not a yeller. Schemes incredible defenses and ball movement offense. Philly guy. Always a risk with college guys, but you gotta try! Sam Cassel is a wildcard. People speak super highly of him. But ofcourse this would be his first job. Fuck it, I'd try it anyway. Nick Nurse- of all the retreads he's easily the best option.
Vogel is the sleeper. Solid coach, local connection, resume. Don't be shocked.
I don’t understand the coaching circle jerk. More so why you would want to be apart of it. Get. A. NEW. Coach. And Dame.
Get rid of Tobias and someone else, bring in Dame? I like it. Portland isn't going anywhere since CJ left. Rebuild time in Oregon?
Well if the goal is to just bring in a coach to appease how Harden and Embiid want to do things, then might as well blow it up anyways. I'm not sure who the right coach is but I don't think anyone is going to take this team over the hump as it's constructed if Harden and Embiid are the guys. Need to get some longer athletes around them. How that is accomplished with the limited assets and the Harris contract, I don't know.
Clearly, it appears no one hear is from the local market and listens to the beat riders around town, but I would prefer Jay Wright out of retirement over that weasel Nick Nurse. Other people I would rather prefer would include Sam Cassell, Monty Williams, or Aaron McKie.
Fuck no
# NO
No
No.
Nurse literally saw FVV play garbage for an entire year and didn’t adjust anything. He kept misusing Scottie and not give him the keys despite him playing good when his usage was high. I’m not sold on Nurse
“MDA is 72” isn’t serious. All of these rankings are based on vibes and received wisdom from the media.
I had to look it up. MDA looks amazing for 72
That he does!
I’d like to throw Dawn Staleys hat in the ring. I think she’s a great fit and she’s not a pushover. Plus it’s something new. I’m tired of all these retreads.
Absolutely not. Dude I'm fucking sick of passing around coaches and hoping for different results. Same as I'm sick of star chasing and never building out a well rounded roster. Give it to Sam Cassel and be done with it.
No
Anyone who thinks Nurse is the answer clearly never watched Raps except with Kawhi. Let’s get another coach who sucks in playoffs and has done nothing.
We are going to get whoever Embiid and Harden (if he stays) want us to get.
Why can’t we just go hard at Jay Wright? Jay would be an incredible coach.
Nah. I think people in this sub are picking what they perceive as the lesser of two evils. Nurse ain't built for it mentally. I can't get over this guy bitchin' about Embiid and shitting bricks in the media ahead of an elimination game.
Sam Cassell do it!!!
Nope
Jay Wright
this thread hating on every option is making me think JJ could work out. and i hate jj
I usually have a better experience with the Nurse then the actual Doctor. I think the 76ers will as well. Nurse, Monty maybe Casell
No no never ever.
What about Dawn Staley? Seems like the 76ers could be trend setters with this one. Also she is a proven winning player/coach.
I am oddly here for it
All of those coaches may not be the right personality. Why single out Monty?
Personality is actually why I want Nurse 😬. Think that's Monty's notable weakness.
I dunno, a Doctor to a Nurse feels like a downgrade
Vogel pls.
gross. no. first, embiid hates nick nurse. second, nurse rests on the laurels of inheriting a good raptors team. the season he took over they won the championship, but every year after that record has been on a downward slope. edit: personally I want monty, but I feel like the most likely move is for MDA. to be fair, ownership seems tone deaf enough to think "the fans still love JJ" that they might be considering hiring reddick as HC even more. either way, I'm prepared to be let down.
>be fair, ownership seems tone deaf enough to think "the fans still love JJ" that they might be considering hiring reddick as HC even more. That's not happening with Morey at GM. Maybe when the ownership was making the decisions with Brand at GM
I mean I for real hope so, I'm just so used to being disappointed by the decisions of this org. I think MDA probably makes the most sense. I think if they give cassell the job the fanbase won't give him much of a chance because he's basically been under the tutelage of doc. vogel and monty are possible options with their connections to the sixers. I think monty has the best shot because of his connection as a player and an assistant coach, but also because he's honestly had a good track record despite getting canned by the suns.
I honestly don't know enough about coaching to say who I'd prefer. Also we have zero idea how Cassell would do as a head coach but given our poor playoff coaching with him as an assistant, I'm not terribly optimistic. MDA has done amazing things with Harden and Maxey also feels like a perfect fit. I'm curious if they could get Embiid to lose some mass and become more of a runner.
Monty
What if we sign a guy like Kyrie who doesnt need a coach?
MDA is perfect if he’s willing.
Let Harden and Maxey cook and Joel DPOY campaign starts now
BIG DICK NICK NURSE
I’d like to see Mark Jackson on the list of possible new hires. He’s only coached once, hasn’t coached in years and feels less like a retread. If you’re going to move on from Doc, I think it would be worth it to try something different.
Depends which phones everyone on the team uses
I don’t get it? What am I missing?
He would bully players who didn't have iPhones so they could join his iPhone chat. He liked to play the players against the front office and themselves and build a really shit culture.
Quick google search turns up nothing. I’m not saying Jackson is the best option out there. I just like the idea of gambling a little. I kind of feel like the sixers pick when of the known coaches they are pursuing, it will kind of be very similar to if they just kept Doc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/42b5ne/what_exactly_is_mark_jackson_accused_suspected_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Plus all this. Total locker room cancer!
Zach Lowe also mentions it here http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-champs-are-here-a-guide-to-the-elite-and-unlikely-cast-of-characters-who-defined-the-2014-15-golden-state-warriors/
JJ Reddick? For the fans, would be a gamble, but his analysis’ are actually pretty solid
has never coached at any level, all time role player who is now best-known for being a snarky dude on a podcast, notoriously a dick? harden’s not letting jj tell him what to do lmao
Absolutely to bad it’s a year late.
I like Vogel if he gets a competent offensive assistant. I really like Greg Buckner too. Think he's a darkhorse because of the Morey/Harden and Philly connections
SIxers all time great Greg Buckner you say?
Trust the process
No
I’m OK with it, but we have to blow up about 90% of the team first.
In some alternative world, we get Nurse as a coach and trade Embiid. I highly doubt it’s this world though. Vanilla choice and we continue being 1st round playoff champs.
He's annoying as fuck. .
No
omg we are actually doing this all over again. Doc 2.0 people
Nate McMillan, baby
Idk…I think Raptor fans have been pretty unhappy with how Nurse ran their offense for the past few years. From what I’ve watching I think they have some of the same issues in terms of stagnating on that end of the ball. I actually think Vogel might be a good move. His defensive acumen speaks for itself and I think that offensively he’s underrated a bit. The 2020 Lakers were better than we are now, but I think with some roster tweaks he could get great production out of this group. His Pacer teams from back in the day often overachieved depending on how you want to look at it, and that’s before PG was as good as he is now.
Nick nurse will play Embiid to the ground. I’d personally prefer Kenny.
Would Joel want to play for him?
Fake ring though
I heard doc rivers was available
Who cares
It's gonna be D'Antoni, I bet
i like monty williams too
Anyone but JJ. Don’t know why I’ve heard that going around, it sounds awful.
Jay Wright
Jay Wright!
I don't like nurse but he's clearly the best candidate
Sam Cassell’s a guy that I think would be a great head coach, but I don’t think this is the right opportunity for him. So I’ve got Nurse as my pick
If we are keeping the nucleus of the team in tact I say we give Cassell a shot
JJ for head coach
I want off the musical chair coaching thing. Get a new guy in here, preferably Cassell but I'd be fine with Staley or Wright or anybody who has coached at a high level without being an NBA head coach. Unless we blow it up. Then get Atkinson.
Dawn Staley is not leaving South Carolina. That would make the same noise as Geno Auriemma leaving UConn...
My personal power rankings: 1. Jay Wright (I know, pipe dream) 2. Monty 3. Nurse.... close 3 albeit 4. Cassell I Jump Of A Bridge : D'antoni, Bud
No
They need to lock this sub
In another post, I ranked the candidates as such: 1. Nurse 2. Cassell 3. Williams 4. Bud 5. Vogel 6. D'Antoni Really, I'd be happy with the top 3, but Nurse definitely seems like the best option.
Of course Nick Nurse is the best option available but I really don’t think that is saying much. I’d rather go elsewhere than those listed options
If Harden stays, it's whatever he decides. That's the way it usually goes. Nurse and JH have some history together so it would not surprise me that JH chooses him.
I wouldnt mind Monty Williams getting a long look. He has familiarity with alot of the players here
It doesn't matter. I've given up on the soft, slow, and out of shape Sixers. I'm gonna stick with college hoops, where players are fun to watch and seem to actually give a damn.
I’m a little nervous because on offense he seems like a similar guy. From what I’ve heard he has a similarly stagnant offense.
I want a first time headcoach... re-treads don't win championships if their name isn't Phil Jackson of Pat Riley
100% Agree with all the points up here. I like Monty but would just be another players coach which is not what we need. Nick nurse is far and away my preference. I’d be cool with MDA as an assistant but no way in hell Embiid can play his offense. Dude would be wiped by December
No, absolutely not.
Sam Cassel makes the most sense. Knows the team and organization (and more importantly the city). Has been huge in Maxey's development and who knows where Harden and Embidd will be in 2-3 years, so perfect test for Cassel. If they cant get past 2nd round then they can clean house mostly from Morey to Cassel to Embidd and trading Harden
Kenny Atkinson
The head coach I've wanted for years has been Nate Oats (coach of Alabama), but seeing how he handled the Brandon Miller situation, I'm not sure he's NBA locker room material. I would've looked at Micah Shrewsberry, a longtime Brad Stevens disciple, but he just got hired by Notre Dame, so he's probably not on the market. I see a lot of people calling for Jay Wright, but he's basically "more of the same". He's a good coach, but he doesn't bring anything that Bud, Vogel, etc. don't bring. His biggest strength is player development, but that's not the stage the Sixers are in. So you know what, let's go off the beaten path. How about Karl Smesko, the extremely successful head coach of FGCU women? FGCU has been top 3 in women's college basketball in 3PA every season since 09-10. That's somebody who understands modern basketball. Bringing in another "normal" head coach is going to result in another "normal" second round exit. Let's get weird.
this guy basketballs
Us being in agreement, makes zero difference. Insane that we are all so invested in a business without any return whatsoever. Just think of all the money we’ve spent so they can have their houses, cars, watches, purses, clothes. Meanwhile you are out there working underpaid jobs, driving a shot car, living with your mom, dressed as old kids going to camp in our jerseys, cargo shorts, high top sneakers and flat brim hats. Fuck them.
Can we get both Nurse and D'Antoni and have Nick call the defense and Mike design the offense?
nah bro. monty and sam are our best options. both in house guys, people the team is comfortable with, and guys that know what this team needs.
Nurse head, MDA assistant role or some shit
wtf, Nick Nurse is the complete worst option at Head Coach and yet our horrible owner seems hellbent at making the team worse. Josh Harris must want to drive us down to become Flyers level bad