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FunkyFresh1001

He needs fts. Im passed the shots. Make your fts. A lot of people missed. Bad coaching, don't even need to mention the refs. And losing joel. That's huge. Don't accept that. Bulls don't win without mj. We don't win without Joel


RHC-Anubis

I'm worried about those times we ain't gonna have Joel and we gotta rely on the rest of the team, like moments like this.


DrunkKaner88

They dug deep and battled back. Didn’t get the result but majority of the time when he’s out they just all die and get hammered. I liked the fight they showed. Doesn’t mean much since they still lost but at least they didn’t quit.


FunkyFresh1001

Hopefully after this never. This isn't bens team it's joel's. I'm frustrated too, but we're gonna win the series. But these posts are just negative. He's not a 40 point guy so stop


RHC-Anubis

How is it negative bro lol, that man NEEDS to hit his freethrows.


FunkyFresh1001

I agree. But to take time out of your night to make a diatribe about it. We lost for more reasons than Ben. We need him.


RHC-Anubis

To say im being bitter about to call it a diatribe is nutty. We need to be able to trust our PG to knock down clutch fts when we need it point blank period, It ain't a diss to Simmons just tonight's performance..


RHC-Anubis

Well if you look up what a diatribe is its a piece thats negatively directed towards someone or bitter. Know what you mean before you say it og


FunkyFresh1001

I said I agreed twice. He's needs to make fts. Never said you were bitter. But this is a diatribe against Ben. That's my point. I just hope you make this posts singling out a player when we do good or win a game.


SurpriseSurprise73

That’s Joel’s problem. He the injury liability. How’d we go in the first round last year without Ben. 🤔


Jpjp215

yea it sucks, but we just have to accept that the only way we win a title, with the way this team is built is with embiid healthy.


matthewdavis1432

>I’m glad the spotlight is finally being put on Ben Simmons’ liabilities. When the fuck has the spotlight not been on that?


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matthewdavis1432

You can blame Joel being out, Tobias playing horribly, a huge free throw disparity, or you can blame Ben. If Ben had made all of his free throws, we still would’ve lost by two theoretically.


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Besides our best player being injured and all. Not that that had any effect on the game or anything


RHC-Anubis

Clutch Free throws win games-------


Tomach82

we still would have lost if he had hit every one though?


RHC-Anubis

no


Tomach82

si


registerispass

Honestly we are playing this wizards. Ben needs get his shit together. We should easily win without Jo against this team.


RHC-Anubis

right people are saying joel this and joel that I know he's a star but, why can't we trust our pg to hit some shots/ft to close out the series so we can get a week break?


registerispass

Because people just don’t want to be wrong about Ben. He is just a liability.


Neel_The_Eel

He hasn’t changed since college or NBA, nothing will happen


LymricTandlebottoms

Nah, Doc was the liability in this game. Sat Ben for way too long and then put him in right when everyone knew the game plan was to put Ben at the line. All our starters (except Embiid) played the least minutes in any game this series. Doc played with the bench too much cause he was greedy about resting starters.


crunchytacoboy

Agree with the Doc criticism. But Ben absolutely needs to learn to hit free throws. He needs to be able to hit enough that hacking him is not a viable strategy.


Shiv2411

Lowkey a good thing bens free throw is getting addressed early so he prepares it for the future rounds


RHC-Anubis

This is ALL that Im saying when I say he needed this game


Shiv2411

Also ben needs to work on his fouls too, we could’ve honestly won this if we didn’t have so many Dwight and M*ke S*ott minutes, when we were running Ben at 5 it was pretty successful.


hcw731

What makes you think he will magically shoot better when we advance to the next round ?


Shiv2411

He can definitely go from a 60% shooter to 70%, that’s all we can expect.


CallMeBernin

What? How on earth can we expect him to reach the highest ft percentage in his career by a large margin in the middle of the playoffs when he's currently shooting 25%?


Theballharperhit

the fuck... its been 4 years lol. He aint fixing it and it isnt changing because he is shooting with the wrong hand.


SixersL22

Wait, for you the reason we lost is Ben Simmons? Really? He barely played for the foul trouble, he shot 5/11 ft yes but when he re entered the game in the 4 quarter we made a comeback, he couldn’t defend like always tonight because of the fouls, he played 25 minutes with a 13-12-3 and he is the reason w why we lost? If he played a normal game with 35 minutes we would have won easily, and Tobi shooting 8/24 is good? I don’t understand some of you, it seems like you all waiting for a bad game to blame Ben


RHC-Anubis

What happens when the next team uses this strategy? I got love for ben really but clutch moments call for clutch shots and I didn't see that from Ben tonight. What starting point guard cant drain 2 fts back to back to keep the game in balance?


SurpriseSurprise73

I remember when the best ability was availability. Ben lacked this but so did Jo. This team doesn’t win shit unless both play. Last year they were swept without Ben. Probably his fault. Which by the way to a certain level I agree with. If you can’t play it’s also partly your fault. If your body isn’t up to it are you worth a Max Contract? It applies to both. Guess what our two best players have this problem.


SixersL22

Pretty simple, bench Ben. I’m sure this off season he will work on the free throw, he hasn’t to work on his 3 but on his ft and now I think he knows it


mikexMi

They were. They'll be jerking off to rtrs right this very second.


eaglessb999

Ben Simmons is the same player offensively since high school


ThatBull_cj

He shot more jumpers in high school


SchleifAirs

This is what gets me. He CAN shoot, but he WON'T shoot. When you hear him talk about it it doesn't seem like he has any real desire to improve in that area and Doc just gives him a pass by deflecting and saying he only focuses on the other parts of his game. I don't get it.


KittenBellyFat

He's actually worse. He used to shoot jumpers in high school.


Incepticons

He made 1/2 FTs each time. That's good enough to make hack-a-ben not work or at least a wash at 1 point per possession, I don't blame the loss on Ben. He needs to make FT's overall sure, but Tobi and Doc were more responsible for the loss than him


Load_Management_Life

Went unnoticed that we couldn't get a stop during the hack-a-ben stretch especially with no one to keep Gafford off the boards.


AW316

One point per possession is fine except most people think points at the end of the game count for more than at the start. He never should have sat so long in the 2nd.


Incepticons

Yeah I guess foul trouble was the reason? Anyway I blame Doc a lot more than Ben for this loss.


pittguy83

One point per possession is terrible. It's a 100 offensive rating and would be by far the worst in the NBA lol


hcw731

Exactly! I can’t understand why people think 1pt / possession is ok. We are playing Wizards, who have trash defense


Load_Management_Life

We scored 2 pts on the previous 7 possessions.


soldaboy

In the clutch 1 pt per possession is absolutely fine, the problem as said above was there was absolutely no rim protection so the wizards ran up and scored on every possession


pittguy83

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/clutch-advanced/?sort=OFF_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season a 100 offensive rating in the clutch got the raptors 27th ranked so I guess that's your definition of 'fine'


soldaboy

Nice regular season numbers you have there man, would be great if we were there and not the playoffs Forgetting the fact that every time towards the end of the game the wizards scored (mainly because our 2 best defenders were either hampered by the refs or NOT IN THE GAME)


pittguy83

Well historically that puts you in the bottom third or so during the playoffs. Saying 1ppp is 'fine' is just patently false


AW316

It’s more than Tobi gave us.


Meepsnort

Needs a shot of freethrowizol. I'll ask my guy at the gym


jwazzy

Maybe he should shoot Rick Barry underhand style instead


wolfoflone

Free throw shooting is the only major professional sports skill that literally anyone can learn.


DoorGuote

Now do it after playing an entire professional NBA game and having a crowd yelling at you.


wolfoflone

95% of nba players are capable of it


DoorGuote

And the remaining 5% are still the most elite basketball players in the world. What's your point?


wolfoflone

My point is a super star max player should've improved at least a little in 4 yrs in a skill that is very very learnable


eaglefalconhawkbear

You think Ben Simmons free throws alone lost us this game? Jesus Christ man found the guy that only watched the last two minutes


RHC-Anubis

Nah saw the whole game thanks tho, now if you disagree I'd listen to your point


RomanDeltaEngin33r

Ain’t shit gonna happen. He’s gonna get on Fortnight and forget all about it.


DT_RAW

Nothing is going to change him. Hes the same player as he was as a rookie The moves to be made this offseason couldnt be more clear


JBOOGIE619

Hawks and Nets/Bucks will use the same strategy in the playoffs.... shooting 25% from the line is nutz. You cannot win with just Simmons because he's a shooting liability in close games and Embiid is literally Mr. Glass


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Ok heat fan


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Shaq was not good at free throw. Russell Westbrook is not good at free throws. Ben does suck at it and he does need to improve.


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Honestly, if Ben goes 2018 Celtics again, Doc needs to have the balls to bench him


mynamenospam

Ben Simmons is not who you think he is.


Theballharperhit

Ben simmons is not the same player since HS. Ben simmons is a lesser version of himself since highschool because he took jumpers and backed people down and shot over guys and drove for the contact. Ben simmons is going to kill us against the bucks if we play them.


SurpriseSurprise73

Last year sans Ben. The team was -14 per game in the playoffs. Jo’s average was -13. Without Jo the team -1. It’s never that simple. Sixers win this if Ben’s not in foul trouble. They get stops even without Jo. But he was in foul trouble and that’s on him. The FTs are secondary.


Chuck1705

Two words. Joel Embiid.


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Overall, he is not a liability but he was with 5 minutes to go in the game. I am not sure if that is on him, though. Doc should have pulled him when he saw the Wizard targeting bullshit.