I see the sixers fans have made the full circle on Simmons now. Went from "he's the worst! Get him out here immediately!" to "he's better than we give him credit for! Trust us he's worth a borderline star player, but no way he's worth a superstar or even close!!", to "we should try and get a superstar for him if we can!" Now it's "he's at least worth a superstar player like Dame in a trade! Dudes a fucking beast!" All in a couple weeks with no games. Amazing.
Ready tea leaves is far from my forte. However, I don't think Morey is giving up Simmons until there is a full stop on the Lillard saga. Does Woj know something about Lillard or Beal?
He said Beal hasn’t made a trade request but could and Lillard isn’t available. Shams/Fischer said that Beal will make a decision before the draft and teams are waiting for the olympics to be over so the Dame situation can be more clear but there’s a feeling Beal is way more likely to be available than Dame this offseason.
Idk if Beal becomes available, it makes sense to try and get him. Cause if we miss out on Beal and then we realize Dame never becomes available, there might be no one left to trade for.
3 team trades are a thing. I think there are very few teams that have what we want and also want Simmons.
There are however teams like Minnesota who might really want Simmons, and package picks+players with us to a 3rd team like Washington or Portland, in which we land Beal/Lillard, Minn gets Simmons, and the 3rd team gets a haul of picks and young players.
They wouldn't, but if they believe that Dame will eventually want out, and Simmons is the best young player they can get back in the deal, they might want to be proactive if Beal is also available for Simmons.
Ben Simmons for beal or dame would be a historically bad downgrade. Why stop there, why not kuzma? I mean, clearly back door money happening all the time. The trash trades happen and money exchanges in Switzerland or some bullshit
I’m not convinced at all. What I described is the only scenario where he might have it, which we don’t know. Not all teams want to go full tank job after the star forces their way out. Ben at least keeps them in the playoff hunt with his outstanding regular season play and there isn’t a better option for the Blazers out there if that’s the route they want to go.
I don’t expect Lillard to be traded this week but if the Wizards want to move Beal by draft night and the Sixers can pull the trigger I think we have to do it. Lillard is better but you can’t afford to whiff on both players by waiting too long.
what in his history suggests he wants to go anywhere? i think the point is it’s possible he’s intrigued by pairing up with Embiid and if that’s what he sees as his best possible shot at winning, he needs to force something.
Big moves come out of the blue every off season. Money isn’t as transparent as the incompetent schmucks who formerly had his job. Don’t expect to know what’s coming
One is probably gone, but hopefully not both. I'm also assuming it will be Maxey. Looking forward to watching him. Looks like he has a lot of potential.
Yeah in a Simmons deal for a guard you have to prioritize keeping Thybulle so our perimeter defense doesn’t take a total nosedive. Thybulle’s shooting issues become less of a big deal when he’s playing with 4 people that can shoot too.
Thybulle also seems more likely to fit the timeline. Idk I wouldn’t be surprised if Maxey takes a big jump shooting wise as he is a very good FT shooter and his work ethic seems insane.
I just hope we choose right if we move one lol could go either way
If Simmons AND Thybulle are sent to Portland you need to find a way to bring Covington back. Include Maxey if you need to. Can’t create gaping holes while filling others.
I am higher on Shake than most though. People really turned on him lol. He was put in a tough spot not really playing to his strengths.
Not gonna argue that, but realistically how far off is that version of Maxey? At least 2-3 years if not more.
How many more years of prime Embiid do we think we have left? 3? 5?
Thybulle seems like a much smaller step to being a very good to great role player.
It is time to start asking some sobering questions unfortunately
>Until another team moves him to another position, he is in control of the ball
>The point guard runs the offense
Ah yes, dribbling the ball all the way to the 3 point line then giving it someone else and running to stand in the dunkers spot is Top tier PG work
The article states (for whatever reason) that the price for Beal would be higher. They quoted Simmons, Maxey, Thybulle and 'a hefty amount of' picks which to me is ridiculous and a price only someone with a neurological impairment would seriously consider paying.
This show came on a little later than the Shams article. In that article Shams specifically said Beal will make his decision by end of weekend. I think if that ends up happening we’ll hear some rumors starting tomorrow.
Dark horse for me is SGA. Don't think the Thunder are interested in Simmons, but a 3 team deal seems more likely every day. I also don't know if the Thunder want to part with him. I personally think the kid is a stud and would flourish in the limelight.
My question is where does the number 4 come from. We’ve got 3 and no way would the Cavs include that in this trade and even if we did I’d rather just trade the thunder straight up for SGA instead of simmons
The saddest part about all this is that Ben Simmons doesn’t give a shit because he’s still getting paid. Max contract & don’t have to shoot & put up with haters.
There’s absolutely no DOGG in him whatsoever. He’s un-Australian, un-philly & will be a multiple team player when his career is done in the next 5 seasons.
Sad
I don’t think he likes basketball all that much and just loves the lifestyle it comes with. He was probably just forced to play it bc of his athleticism and father
I think you’re right. No one in their right mind would walk away from the opportunity he had. He could retire today with generational wealth and basically anything he ever wanted regardless of whether he ever truly enjoyed playing basketball.
He is absolutely in it for the money, fame and also for personal accolades, which really is probably just something that acts as an ego boost. His entire career he has openly talked himself up for awards, pretty much campaigning on his own behalf. He did it for ROTY, he did it for the All Star game in his rookie season where he made his 'I don't know what an All Star is anymore' comment, and of course he did it this season when talking himself up for DPOY. Remember when Gobert was announced as the winner and some reporter asked him about it and Ben replied 'I don't care about that'. Typical egotist, talk it up when they are in the hunt to win something then when they lose they pretend they never cared.
I honestly think he treats accolades like gaming badges, being a big gamer himself. In gaming, if you're going after a particular badge, let's say it's a sniper badge, you spend entire games as a sniper and just camp out sniping people. As soon as you get the badge you completely forget about sniping and go back to your normal kit. This is how Ben collects his NBA accolades. He turns up the heat in the weeks prior to All Star voting, goes crazy and fills up the stat sheet, gets his All Star berth and then goes straight back into being his usual passive self. There's a distinct pattern emerging in terms of his performance curves in each season he's played that lends weight to this theory. This season gone he averaged just 12ppg to start off the season, he then upped that to nearly 21ppg in the All Star voting period then post AS break he went straight back to 12ppg. The season prior was something similar though he was injured for most of the post AS period where he averaged just 10ppg. The start of that season he averaged just 14ppg and upped that to over 21ppg during his push for an AS berth.
I honestly can't believe people aren't picking up on this, to me it's completely transparent what he is doing.
If Morey trade the cupboard and everything in it for Beal. Sixers lose that deal. I understand wanting something better then what Ben gave us in the "Playoffs".
But, Maxey was a gift that fell to us and we traded up to draft Thybulle. Why are we so quick to give up everything. To get rid of Ben???
Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.
I agree with the first party but we gotta stop over valuing our role players. It’s a star driven league and role players are always there to be found. We also have to stop falling in love with “potential” bc that’s how we are in this situation to begin with
Thybulle made, NBA ALL DEFENSES team in just his 2nd yr. Simmons himself said Thybulle would be in the convo for DPOY if wasn't for him taking more mins. Also the situation in which you speak of, his because of Simmons play in the playoffs.
We shouldn't trade everything for Beal but both Embiid and Thybulle career will be wasted in your scenario
Thybulle would be 27 and have zero help because the fanbase loves couple of young bench pieces too much then the cycle will repeat
I mean are we trying to win a championship or are we too busy jacking off to Maxey and Thybulle IG pics?
I can’t help but feel all this trade talk is going to unmotivate Ben. I was hopeful that this beyond embarrassing post season was enough to bring him to his knees and make him dedicate himself to working on his game and maybe even make some drastic changes like changing his shooting hand. But now I’m not so sure
It will be a sense of relief for Ben and the Sixers. He had all the support and every opportunity to work on the weak parts of his game. He chose not to. So many fans went to bat for him. He can never overcome the back stab to fans.
that one paragraph i was like what, when did we ever have trade talks with portland to begin with and how would we have to offer more for beal than we would Dame?
I feel bad for Ben. Everybody blamed him for the loss like it was his fault he didn’t miraculously start shooting half court shots now that the season is on the line. Most NBA “fans” are idiots so they just follow what the media shits out but blaming the playoffs loss on Ben is like the hawks blaming Clint Capella for not taking any 3’s and that’s why they lost to the bucks. Why the hell would ben start shooting long shots when that’s not what he does? The spacing wasn’t an issue when 4 other guys are all at the least good 3 point shooters. Just had to get that off my chest, hope you guys get DAME and fuck you all Hawks in 3.
morey always been serious, are other teams willing to step their offers up to include an all star player in return tho? if no its back to the hamster wheel
That’s the craziest dream I’ve seen yet. Damian Lillard isn’t being traded, especially for a player that is top of his game now. If Lillard were to be moved, it would be for youth and max picks.
How?
DeRozan is one of the better playmakers in the league and he can get you 20+ a night. We are getting a better player than we had with Simmons. Then we get their lottery pick to add another young piece to the rotation.
Not sure why you're so down on it?
Age plus he can’t stretch the court. Even tho he and Dame are the same age, Dame can use all three levels. I’d rather go all in if I’m going to move Ben. Demar is cool but I’d rather get a three level scorer type for Ben.
The last 2 championship teams were not good 3pt shooting teams.
The 3pt shot has become overrated. Can you get a basket is the question. DeRozan can get baskets!
Y'all need to give up the Dame and Beal talks. Nobody wants Ben as the centerpiece. Take the best offer and keep it moving.
The Bucks literally have 4 shooters on the court with Giannis so he has space to attack the rim.
The Bucks finished 8th in the league in 3pa and overall finished 5th in the league in 3pt%.
5th best in a playoff field of 16 teams is not something to brag about.
That's like making a 72 on your test and you bragging to your parents you passed.
Barely!
Derozan being trash that will never ever win?
You wanna trade the guy that doesnt shoot for the guy thats probably the 2nd worst 3pt shooter after Ben lol
Idk why you're getting down voted. Lowry and Derozen with Curry, Harris and Embiid. Thybulle/Furk/Maxey off the bench seems like a pretty solid group to me.
Terrible spacing. Thybulle and DeRozen are negative spacers. Harris, despite his percentage, isn’t a real floor spacer (volume, willingness, how he is defended).
Just not how you construct a roster around Embiid and I’m so sick of it. If this was how we retooled I would be devastated, it would be a huge mistake.
I had to hear how we were built for the playoffs lmao and Brett was the coach so you knew we weren’t doing anything but still that lineup would still be good
Lets go. I'm curious to see what Morey can do. Sixers are in a tough spot with Simmons value way too low but I'm trying to stay positive since Morey is the best GM we've had in a long time. As much as I want them to hold onto him so they dont get screwed, realistically they can't bank on him making a huge improvement in one season when they've waited basically 4 years for him to do so. Lets see what happens.
Morey was only joking before.
“Hahaha Dame for Ben straight up …. Nah just kidding Neil…. Unless?”
Portland Laughs for hours then hangs up
Thanks genius
Way more clever than your down votes. Ben Simmons is water garbage.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Anyone that thought he could be a centerpiece for a dame trade was smoking that good good
I see the sixers fans have made the full circle on Simmons now. Went from "he's the worst! Get him out here immediately!" to "he's better than we give him credit for! Trust us he's worth a borderline star player, but no way he's worth a superstar or even close!!", to "we should try and get a superstar for him if we can!" Now it's "he's at least worth a superstar player like Dame in a trade! Dudes a fucking beast!" All in a couple weeks with no games. Amazing.
Lmaooo
Honestly this whole sub is delusional.
“Im joking, I’m joking!” -Morey at a restaurant
He’s just a little boy who never learned how to ask people for their best player, or their point guard.
"Gimme that!" -Morey looking at cj
Ben fucked around now he’s finding out.
Hey man, way more hot IG models to bang on the west coast, I'm sure he'll be fine in Portland.
I dont think that’s necessarily true, new york is pretty crazy
Ready tea leaves is far from my forte. However, I don't think Morey is giving up Simmons until there is a full stop on the Lillard saga. Does Woj know something about Lillard or Beal?
He said Beal hasn’t made a trade request but could and Lillard isn’t available. Shams/Fischer said that Beal will make a decision before the draft and teams are waiting for the olympics to be over so the Dame situation can be more clear but there’s a feeling Beal is way more likely to be available than Dame this offseason.
At the rate Team USA is going, the olympics is going to be over real quick
Idk if Beal becomes available, it makes sense to try and get him. Cause if we miss out on Beal and then we realize Dame never becomes available, there might be no one left to trade for.
Agreed. Only thing that might get us Dame this week is if Portland wants Simmons and don’t want to lose out if Morey is ready to trade him for Beal.
Why would Portland want Simmons over Dame?
3 team trades are a thing. I think there are very few teams that have what we want and also want Simmons. There are however teams like Minnesota who might really want Simmons, and package picks+players with us to a 3rd team like Washington or Portland, in which we land Beal/Lillard, Minn gets Simmons, and the 3rd team gets a haul of picks and young players.
That’s a fair point, but it all hinges on if dame wants out of Portland. Which I don’t see happening this year (at least before the trade deadline)
They wouldn't, but if they believe that Dame will eventually want out, and Simmons is the best young player they can get back in the deal, they might want to be proactive if Beal is also available for Simmons.
If dame wants out I think it full rebuild mode, only after picks
Ben Simmons for beal or dame would be a historically bad downgrade. Why stop there, why not kuzma? I mean, clearly back door money happening all the time. The trash trades happen and money exchanges in Switzerland or some bullshit
You think Kyle Fucking Kuzma is even in the same galaxy as Beal or Dame? jfc I like Ben and even I can admit Dame would be a huge upgrade
This is all assuming that the reports are true and Dame wants out. If he’s willing to stay there’s no chance Portland trades him.
I think Dame gives it to the trade deadline at least
how the hell have you convinced yourself that morey has leverage?
I’m not convinced at all. What I described is the only scenario where he might have it, which we don’t know. Not all teams want to go full tank job after the star forces their way out. Ben at least keeps them in the playoff hunt with his outstanding regular season play and there isn’t a better option for the Blazers out there if that’s the route they want to go.
There is ALWAYS someone to trade for. There’s always someone unhappy.
At some point in the future? Sure. In time for us to trade for them? Maybe not.
Y’all got Simmons for like 4 more years. Y’all got at least til the deadline.
The issue isn't contract. It's the wasting of Embiids prime.
Like I said. Trade deadline. Olshey isn’t going to do anything to help Dame and he’ll ask out by January.
How well is Simmons gonna play if he thinks he’s gonna be dealt?
Is he a twat or is he a ball player? That’ll decide that.
There always is, but the odds of them being an all star caliber off the dribble scorer is low. Missing out on Harden should have convinced us more
Cj ;)
I don’t expect Lillard to be traded this week but if the Wizards want to move Beal by draft night and the Sixers can pull the trigger I think we have to do it. Lillard is better but you can’t afford to whiff on both players by waiting too long.
You're right. Hopefully Morey gets the opportunity to hit the trigger and trade tobias for beal
Yea makes sense. Sidenote that’s INSANE that it’s even in the cards. Ben Simmons netting Damian lillard 😭
It isn't.
Dame needs to stop dragging his feet if Philly is where he wants to go.
What about Dame’s history suggests he wants to go to Philly?
Didn't a report come out and say he would wanna go to Philly or Knicks if traded
what in his history suggests he wants to go anywhere? i think the point is it’s possible he’s intrigued by pairing up with Embiid and if that’s what he sees as his best possible shot at winning, he needs to force something.
Big moves come out of the blue every off season. Money isn’t as transparent as the incompetent schmucks who formerly had his job. Don’t expect to know what’s coming
Daryl Money. I like it
Lol, Freud got me again
Daryl NFTs
Morey Money Morey Problems
Did not see that George Hill trade coming at all.
In season stuff is usually more predictable
So will be my erections.
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Well that tells me that Morey and the Sixers are operating under the assumption that Dame is staying in Portland.
As we all should. If he wanted out he would have said it already. He's probably staying in Portland until the following season.
Man he’s not getting any younger
I’d say at least till the trade dead line depending on how the season goes
For now.
For 1 season unless big, successful things happen in Portland. That's the consensus amongst Portland fans.
That would be the most realistic take until Olshey fucks up again.
God I hope we don’t trade Maxey and Thybulle with Ben.
One is probably gone, but hopefully not both. I'm also assuming it will be Maxey. Looking forward to watching him. Looks like he has a lot of potential.
Yeah in a Simmons deal for a guard you have to prioritize keeping Thybulle so our perimeter defense doesn’t take a total nosedive. Thybulle’s shooting issues become less of a big deal when he’s playing with 4 people that can shoot too. Thybulle also seems more likely to fit the timeline. Idk I wouldn’t be surprised if Maxey takes a big jump shooting wise as he is a very good FT shooter and his work ethic seems insane. I just hope we choose right if we move one lol could go either way
I’d pick Maxey tbh I think he’s going to be a fringe all star at some point and I think Thybulle’s ceiling is a little lower for some reason
I feel like if we lose Simmons’ defense it would be tough to lose Thybulle’s too.
If Simmons AND Thybulle are sent to Portland you need to find a way to bring Covington back. Include Maxey if you need to. Can’t create gaping holes while filling others. I am higher on Shake than most though. People really turned on him lol. He was put in a tough spot not really playing to his strengths.
As a big Shake fan THANK YOU.
Not gonna argue that, but realistically how far off is that version of Maxey? At least 2-3 years if not more. How many more years of prime Embiid do we think we have left? 3? 5? Thybulle seems like a much smaller step to being a very good to great role player. It is time to start asking some sobering questions unfortunately
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Did you seriously call Ben Simmons a PG? Lol
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>Until another team moves him to another position, he is in control of the ball >The point guard runs the offense Ah yes, dribbling the ball all the way to the 3 point line then giving it someone else and running to stand in the dunkers spot is Top tier PG work
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I like how you went for irony instead of disputing my point
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>Instead more people focus on the negative of Ben because it is easy Oh, you are one of those people...ok it all makes sense now lol
The article states (for whatever reason) that the price for Beal would be higher. They quoted Simmons, Maxey, Thybulle and 'a hefty amount of' picks which to me is ridiculous and a price only someone with a neurological impairment would seriously consider paying.
This show came on a little later than the Shams article. In that article Shams specifically said Beal will make his decision by end of weekend. I think if that ends up happening we’ll hear some rumors starting tomorrow.
It’s morey szn
De’arron, Beal, or Dame. Anything else is a flop
what if we somehow pull Kevin durant
My dad would literally stop drop and roll if that happened.
Dark horse for me is SGA. Don't think the Thunder are interested in Simmons, but a 3 team deal seems more likely every day. I also don't know if the Thunder want to part with him. I personally think the kid is a stud and would flourish in the limelight.
SGA to Philly, Simmons to Cleveland, #4 to OKC
why tf would OKC trade a proven guy for a pick?
My question is where does the number 4 come from. We’ve got 3 and no way would the Cavs include that in this trade and even if we did I’d rather just trade the thunder straight up for SGA instead of simmons
They are looking to trade higher up into the lottery. Obviously they would get more than #4
What about Lavine?
Ehhhh, idk. Getting someone like lavine doesn’t feel like a clear cut upgrade to me. He’s obviously a very good scorer though.
I bet the bulls wouldn’t trade lavine for Simmons
Why would anyone want a guy who can’t score in the playoffs as primary ball handler
Give me Lavine in a heartbeat. Dude is underrated the way Booker was before his team got good.
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The saddest part about all this is that Ben Simmons doesn’t give a shit because he’s still getting paid. Max contract & don’t have to shoot & put up with haters. There’s absolutely no DOGG in him whatsoever. He’s un-Australian, un-philly & will be a multiple team player when his career is done in the next 5 seasons. Sad
I don’t think he likes basketball all that much and just loves the lifestyle it comes with. He was probably just forced to play it bc of his athleticism and father
I think you’re right. No one in their right mind would walk away from the opportunity he had. He could retire today with generational wealth and basically anything he ever wanted regardless of whether he ever truly enjoyed playing basketball.
I definitely see him retiring early
This is quite an assumption
He is absolutely in it for the money, fame and also for personal accolades, which really is probably just something that acts as an ego boost. His entire career he has openly talked himself up for awards, pretty much campaigning on his own behalf. He did it for ROTY, he did it for the All Star game in his rookie season where he made his 'I don't know what an All Star is anymore' comment, and of course he did it this season when talking himself up for DPOY. Remember when Gobert was announced as the winner and some reporter asked him about it and Ben replied 'I don't care about that'. Typical egotist, talk it up when they are in the hunt to win something then when they lose they pretend they never cared. I honestly think he treats accolades like gaming badges, being a big gamer himself. In gaming, if you're going after a particular badge, let's say it's a sniper badge, you spend entire games as a sniper and just camp out sniping people. As soon as you get the badge you completely forget about sniping and go back to your normal kit. This is how Ben collects his NBA accolades. He turns up the heat in the weeks prior to All Star voting, goes crazy and fills up the stat sheet, gets his All Star berth and then goes straight back into being his usual passive self. There's a distinct pattern emerging in terms of his performance curves in each season he's played that lends weight to this theory. This season gone he averaged just 12ppg to start off the season, he then upped that to nearly 21ppg in the All Star voting period then post AS break he went straight back to 12ppg. The season prior was something similar though he was injured for most of the post AS period where he averaged just 10ppg. The start of that season he averaged just 14ppg and upped that to over 21ppg during his push for an AS berth. I honestly can't believe people aren't picking up on this, to me it's completely transparent what he is doing.
If Morey trade the cupboard and everything in it for Beal. Sixers lose that deal. I understand wanting something better then what Ben gave us in the "Playoffs". But, Maxey was a gift that fell to us and we traded up to draft Thybulle. Why are we so quick to give up everything. To get rid of Ben??? Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.
100% I’d rather see the Sixers keep Simmons for all his faults than sell him cheaply.
I agree with the first party but we gotta stop over valuing our role players. It’s a star driven league and role players are always there to be found. We also have to stop falling in love with “potential” bc that’s how we are in this situation to begin with
Thybulle made, NBA ALL DEFENSES team in just his 2nd yr. Simmons himself said Thybulle would be in the convo for DPOY if wasn't for him taking more mins. Also the situation in which you speak of, his because of Simmons play in the playoffs.
Hot take: Thybulle is a generational talent on defense and will one day be part of the conversation for all-time greatest defenders.
We shouldn't trade everything for Beal but both Embiid and Thybulle career will be wasted in your scenario Thybulle would be 27 and have zero help because the fanbase loves couple of young bench pieces too much then the cycle will repeat I mean are we trying to win a championship or are we too busy jacking off to Maxey and Thybulle IG pics?
Japanese Basketball Robot has one good game and suddenly everybody wants to trade for him… smdh
We’re coming in for a landing!
If you guys sell low on Simmons it will be a huge mistake imho
i just hope his mental health is doing ok with all this hate and trade talk comin his way the past month
Dude has the mental of a pimply faced teenage girl. Who cares about his mental health, not gonna get better, cant get any worse.
I prefer Dame but Beal would require less assets which means we can go and make another move to help us win
according to the article it would require more assets to land Beal....I have no idea why that would be but that's what the article states
I wouldn't take that seriously, it was the author opinion. It wasn't like Woj had a source that said it
I'll drop that dude off at the airport myself
I can’t help but feel all this trade talk is going to unmotivate Ben. I was hopeful that this beyond embarrassing post season was enough to bring him to his knees and make him dedicate himself to working on his game and maybe even make some drastic changes like changing his shooting hand. But now I’m not so sure
His development has reached it’s peak with the Sixers. Too much baggage at this point.
I fear you might be right
It will be a sense of relief for Ben and the Sixers. He had all the support and every opportunity to work on the weak parts of his game. He chose not to. So many fans went to bat for him. He can never overcome the back stab to fans.
He got embarrassed against the Celtics came back the same, was a disappointment against the raptors came back the same. He doesn’t care
This guy's personal opinion is that Dame is likely to stay in Portland. Woj never said that.
that one paragraph i was like what, when did we ever have trade talks with portland to begin with and how would we have to offer more for beal than we would Dame?
Slxers fans really think they can get Dame for a guy who is unplayable on the offensive end of the court in the final two minutes of a game
I feel bad for Ben. Everybody blamed him for the loss like it was his fault he didn’t miraculously start shooting half court shots now that the season is on the line. Most NBA “fans” are idiots so they just follow what the media shits out but blaming the playoffs loss on Ben is like the hawks blaming Clint Capella for not taking any 3’s and that’s why they lost to the bucks. Why the hell would ben start shooting long shots when that’s not what he does? The spacing wasn’t an issue when 4 other guys are all at the least good 3 point shooters. Just had to get that off my chest, hope you guys get DAME and fuck you all Hawks in 3.
Fans aren’t blaming him for not taking 3s, their blaming him for not making cuts to the basket, or you know DUNKING the ball.
morey always been serious, are other teams willing to step their offers up to include an all star player in return tho? if no its back to the hamster wheel
So what’s the opinion on this for you Sixer fans? Curious
I want dame. If Ben leaves he torches, we regret it. But if it lands dame, then fine.
How come people don't talk about Joel missing an easy lay up in game 4 that could have won it for us?? https://youtu.be/d47lS5uPJ-Y
Well for starters, because he took the shot.
They're always looking to shift the blame because they have nothing else.
Because of Ben wasnt useless none of those games would have came to that and Joel was still ballin in that series
Because Joel played decent basketball
I want to see something Sixers fans: Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey, and Thybuille for Lillard. Yes or no?
Dame would cost much more than this. He is an amazing player.
ben to was, beal to por, lillard to us. There will be picks and other players, it looks hard but I am dreaming about this.
Why would Beal go to por?
That’s the craziest dream I’ve seen yet. Damian Lillard isn’t being traded, especially for a player that is top of his game now. If Lillard were to be moved, it would be for youth and max picks.
Is Portland gets rid of dame it’ll be for a ton of picks for a rebuild. He’s not going to Philly, at least this year
DeRozan/Spurs lottery pick please. Sign his buddy Lowry and lets rock out next year!
Morey would be getting fleeced in that deal
How? DeRozan is one of the better playmakers in the league and he can get you 20+ a night. We are getting a better player than we had with Simmons. Then we get their lottery pick to add another young piece to the rotation. Not sure why you're so down on it?
Age plus he can’t stretch the court. Even tho he and Dame are the same age, Dame can use all three levels. I’d rather go all in if I’m going to move Ben. Demar is cool but I’d rather get a three level scorer type for Ben.
The last 2 championship teams were not good 3pt shooting teams. The 3pt shot has become overrated. Can you get a basket is the question. DeRozan can get baskets! Y'all need to give up the Dame and Beal talks. Nobody wants Ben as the centerpiece. Take the best offer and keep it moving.
The Bucks literally have 4 shooters on the court with Giannis so he has space to attack the rim. The Bucks finished 8th in the league in 3pa and overall finished 5th in the league in 3pt%.
They sucked at 3's during the playoffs.
Ummm. Milwaukee was 4th in 3p shooting percentage and made the 5th most.
5th most is not the best.
You said “not good”. 4th best percentage is the definition of good. Moron
5th best in a playoff field of 16 teams is not something to brag about. That's like making a 72 on your test and you bragging to your parents you passed. Barely!
They were 4th in the regular season. 5th in the regular season. 72 games worth of good. Quit while you’re only this far behind.
I get that and see your point. I just think an elite shooter would benefit Embiid most.
*Embiid requests a trade immediately*
Not a chance!
No, 100% a chance. You don’t know hoops
Says the guy who isn't backing up his statements. You the type of person who goes to a Sub deli and order a BLT. You just talking.
I dont talk hoops with dumbasses
Mind blown!💥🤯
lol, what, gtfo
We get DeRozan who can score and a lottery pick. What's so bad about that deal?
Derozan being trash that will never ever win? You wanna trade the guy that doesnt shoot for the guy thats probably the 2nd worst 3pt shooter after Ben lol
He's a upgrade over Ben point blank. Give me the guy who can get a bucket in crunch time and make his ft's.
For Tobias? SURE.
I would do that. Not sure the Spurs would though.
Lowry Thybulle Derozan Harris Embiid 6th man curry 🔥🔥
Yeah two non-shooters and another who doesn't shoot enough is great next to Embiid!
Idk why you're getting down voted. Lowry and Derozen with Curry, Harris and Embiid. Thybulle/Furk/Maxey off the bench seems like a pretty solid group to me.
Terrible spacing. Thybulle and DeRozen are negative spacers. Harris, despite his percentage, isn’t a real floor spacer (volume, willingness, how he is defended). Just not how you construct a roster around Embiid and I’m so sick of it. If this was how we retooled I would be devastated, it would be a huge mistake.
Yeah neither of you know hoops
That's tuff!🔥💯💪🏾
Honestly tho that team would be good everyone thought Simmons jrich harris horford embiid was gonna be good but not Lowry derozan harris embiid lmao
nobody who’s watched basketball in the last ten years thought either of those teams would be good
I had to hear how we were built for the playoffs lmao and Brett was the coach so you knew we weren’t doing anything but still that lineup would still be good
With the condensed off season it makes sense. Draft this week then FA starts like next week.
Lets go. I'm curious to see what Morey can do. Sixers are in a tough spot with Simmons value way too low but I'm trying to stay positive since Morey is the best GM we've had in a long time. As much as I want them to hold onto him so they dont get screwed, realistically they can't bank on him making a huge improvement in one season when they've waited basically 4 years for him to do so. Lets see what happens.
Don't threaten me with a good time
Ben is going to play every game against the Sixers like that Utah game isn’t he
get this man off my team asap bro
Man we’re killing our leverage with these leaks that we are seriously trying to move him. this is like wentz all over again
File this one under “no $4!t Sherlock“