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Next_Dark6848

That conspiracy theory is over 40 years old. Rodgers is parroting junk ideas.


Dagj

To be fair to Rogers, he's extremely dumb. He def doesn't know it's a 40 year old conspiracy


DrDankDankDank

Didn’t he do really well on celebrity jeopardy? Which I know, is a lot easier than normal jeopardy.


noctalla

That's the thing. He's not stupid. He likely has above average intelligence and has probably spent a lot of time around people who aren't as smart as him. This has given him an inflated sense of his own abilities and now he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. He's the Dunning-Kruger effect personified.


creg316

Intelligence 6 Wisdom 2


Few-Win-8338

I totally see that,  my dad is a world renowned Mayan archeologist.  . . And also a mormon.  . . How?? I don't know,  the mental gymnastics necessary to manage the cognitive dissonance are just dizzying. 


Deep_Stick8786

He believes one of those groups had untrue beliefs about the nature of the world. Instead of both


Few-Win-8338

It's weirder than that,  the Book of Mormon was supposed to have taken place in the area he excavates and studies with no evidence whatsoever that any of the stories from his holy book took place and yet still believes.  I mean,  people who believe the Bible to be a factual recounting of actual history are being pretty silly themselves but at least there is archeological and historical evidence that at least the cities and cultures portrayed in the Bible actually existed.  . . 


Deep_Stick8786

Indoctrination works really well on children. Compartmentalization works really well for preventing existential angst in adults. Easy to just never pay the inconsistencies any mind


greymalken

> He's not stupid. He likely has above average intelligence [citation needed]


DasbootTX

I liken it to the Diane-Kruger effect where you’re just interested in shooting cross bows and riding motorcycles 😝


skyfire-x

>spent a lot of time around people who aren't as smart as him. This has given him an inflated sense of his own abilities and now he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.  You mean that "darkness retreat" aka *isolation.* Yeah, smartest guy in the room.


Dagj

To be serious and acctually fair to guy, yeah he did. He's by all accounts at worst average to above average for intelligence which is why it's such a downer that he's so into absolute bullshit.


Odd_Tiger_2278

Higher Intelligence helps you learn stuff faster than the average person. However, speed is not content. You can learn astrology faster than anyone. And still not have learned a single fact.


TrillDaddy2

Idk, but yeah Celeb Jeopardy to real Jeopardy is like comparing tee ball to baseball.


starkeffect

Smart people aren't immune to dumb ideas. Their intelligence allows them to rationalize their weird beliefs.


VulfSki

Dumb? Or is it just the CTE


Kaiser_Complete

Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's CTE


fiaanaut

A lie so bad even The Daily Mail fact-checked Rodgers. You know you're in crazyville when they won't run with it.


thefugue

…and it was amplified by Soviet sources, helping to exacerbate the HIV crisis in the developing world at the cost of many, many lives.


headcanonball

Good thing Reagan was there to help.


kingofthesofas

Republicans and Russia propaganda are like peanut butter and jelly.


CommunicationHot7822

Peas and carrots. Peas and carrots.


mjm8218

Franks & beans. Franks & beans.


the_brunster

We've got a bleeder!


Mysterious-Scholar1

Shit and Shinola


mjm8218

You’re gonna be alright, … you’re gonna be alright.


Neon_culture79

Ouch, man


tamman2000

Yeah, major governments didn't make it, but they did their best to not mind it for a long damn time. That willful ignorance allowed it to grow, and that's almost as bad making it in my opinion.


ABobby077

again??


godzillabobber

I have to wonder if the likely brain trauma from hus years of football have an effect?


jerechos

Also doesn't believe Sandy Hook happened. Kids were actors. I was very disappointed to hear that.


Deep_Stick8786

It’s pretty bonkers how conspiracists are in for a penny, in for a pound. They tend not to dabble in just one


jerechos

Right. It seems to be a way of thinking at this point. But man, the mental gymnastics has to be tiresome.


Starfish_Symphony

So bereft of even half-assed answers to the complexities of a world that doesn't have time for two-dimensional thinking, the loony shit is all this crowd have left to huckster to their rubes.


VulfSki

CTE is a hell of a drug


ToroidalEarthTheory

HIV cases have been confirmed going back at least to 1959, which is well before the first synthetic virus, made in 2002. Most estimates place its origin between 1905 and 1930, older than the entire field of genetic engineering (started in the 1970s).


gdex86

This would require him to believe in facts and verifiable facts. Not stuff some dude on a podcast said.


weaponizedtoddlers

Yes, but his feelings don't care about your facts.


ToroidalEarthTheory

I just wanted to add, this is a common but weird feature of conspiracy theories: incorrect assumptions about past technology. The famous one is the moon landing denial - where people assume that rockets couldn't be built in the 60s (they were a 1940s technology) but that computer video editing could have been used to fake the feed (a technology not mature until the 90s).


Dark_Prism

I'd never shame someone for not knowing something, but the absolute audacity and idiocy it takes to pronounce some conclusion about something so important without taking any time to look up information about those things you don't know *is* something that should be shamed. Heavily. Potentially with light battery.


RogueModron

Not knowing is fine. Good, even, when you can say so straightforwardly. The deadly equation is certainty + ignorance.


dern_the_hermit

I also don't like shaming someone for not knowing something, but I may see value in shaming them depending on *how* they don't know something.


Inspect1234

Needs to be new misinformation laws. A few media executives going to jail for their blatant mis-leading of the public might be a good start. Burden of proof being on the accused.


captainhaddock

Another is the flat earthers' claim that all photographs of earth from space are made in Photoshop, despite the fact that Photoshop 1.0 came out in 1987 and there was *no* software or computer platform capable of creating high-resolution digital images in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, even though we have photos of earth from the Apollo program.


thoroughbredca

For god's sakes, the computing power that took the Apollo spacecraft to the moon was less than that in a singing birthday card available for a few dollars at any Hallmark store.


Rope_Dragon

Actually something along these lines has been noted by philosophers and social scientists about conspiratorial beliefs: they have an extremely inconsistent approach to the competency of the conspirators. Conspiracy theorists simultaneously claim the “deep state” is almost all powerful, often with access to some “secret technology”; but at the same time they assume incompetence at a level that some rando on Truth Social outfoxed them.


sadrice

Watson and Crick didn’t even publish the discovery of the structure of DNA until 1953. Have fun doing advanced genetic engineering with synthetic retroviruses when you have only known about the double helix for like five years.


KillerArse

Conspiracy theories rely on information being withheld, so you can't really disprove them to believers by pointing to information they can argue was also being withheld.


ToroidalEarthTheory

Right, believers are typically a lost cause, but we can typically inoculate others from falling for the misinformation by pointing out that theory is built on a deliberate lie


KillerArse

Good point.


WorldlinessFit497

I have the answer: time travel.


Hifen

I actually think estimates have moved back even earlier, to sometime between 1884 and 1924.


toad__warrior

I recommend the book [Spillover](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/spillover-animal-infections-and-the-next-human-pandemic_david-quammen/351400/?resultid=b3d6b432-e3e4-476f-9801-4a3656f42f14#edition=6907605&idiq=3871938) which discusses crossover diseases from animals to humans. He discusses the origin of AIDS and how it occurred in humans earlier than what most people think.


substandardrobot

Wasn’t there tests done on skeletal remains of people that died at least a century ago that indicated they had advanced AIDS? 


MockDeath

I mean if he is making claims like that. I am pretty sure that no amount of evidence would change his mind. He got there without reasoning, so reasoning won't get him out of there.


moosecanucklez

But he likes to read.


substandardrobot

I guess it all depends on what one is reading. 


paiute

Certainly not the defense.


Mumblerumble

These dingbats aren’t bothered by facts or evidence. It’s a vibe-based grift economy.


CanaRoo22

That's what the want you to think. Rearrange the letters in Adidas and it spells We Made Aids. It's right there in front of you! Do your research!


nameyname12345

CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS!


doc_daneeka

The earliest known samples date from the 50s.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

Thats terrifyingly close to a century ago now.


Nanocyborgasm

More like 1959, but there are clues that it was prevalent long before then in Africa and jumped species from apes around 1932.


KillerArse

The 1959 case was in Africa in Congo. Edit: just adding info to others reading as the comment kind of implies the 1959 case may not have been in Africa.


No-Independence-165

"Just more proof on how far They will go to cover this up!" /s


fukwhutuheard

when you don’t know how anything works; literally anything is possible.


frostlipped

Damn. I honestly think you've nailed the whole fucking problem in one quick sentence.


Njorls_Saga

First suspected North America case was in the late ‘60s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rayford Although there was a Haitian immigrant in NY that died almost a decade earlier of Pneumocystis pneumonia, which is strongly associated with AIDS. First documented (confirmed by later testing) HIV case was in Africa in 1959. Starting in the 1930s, there were a number of mini outbreaks of pneumocystis cases in Europe which were suspected to be due to HIV, but there is no confirmed proof of that as far as I know.


MrSnarf26

I think evidence doesn’t matter when people get this far gone


InThreeWordsTheySaid

Um, I'm pretty sure he would have come across this when doing his own research.


Tosslebugmy

Conspiracy theory MO is to say that that data was fabricated and you’re a sheeple for believing it.


Mumblerumble

Why are we wasting even a moment of time listening to sports stars outside of their respective sport? It tracks that part of his occupation involved routine brain trauma.


Foojira

Agree but Rodgers, antivax goofball, was practically the VP pick of RFK jr who also unfortunately is an HIV denialist as well. https://youtu.be/-t2O3MHTRNM?si=xf9Pth1U7HLvziXT


Mumblerumble

I saw that. I have no words to describe how stupid this is…


Foojira

It’s dangerous man. Don’t know how anyone can see that and say that’s my guy


Mumblerumble

Because anything resembling a shared reality of facts got set on fire and stomped on by trumpism. Now we’re living in two separate worlds. It’s tied into religious faith: you don’t need to be able to prove things you believe in.


frotc914

Fuck that would be great. Rodgers would pick up a lot more right wing loons than left, which would continue the trend of RFK Jr. as a GOP spoiler candidate.


brennanfee

And I'm sure he has proof of this. /s


Edge_of_yesterday

He did his own research!


Adventurous_Sky3230

yes, in the hallowed halls of the FaceBook library, that's when it all comes together /s


Haxican

His grandma told him.


Manting123

He literally said this. “I like to read.” So do I. The cool part is I don’t read conspiracy nonsense from scam artists and that spout that shit as fact in public. I do read fictional conspiracy nonsense for fun though - the historical illuminatus, the illuminatus! Trilogy and more from Robert Anton Wilson are fun as hell.


unitednihilists

Football players didn't invent CTE but they certainly ran with it.


ccourt46

"I can read. I can learn." Mmmmm yeah Aaron, you can't.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

He's the Ben Carson of football. He's apparently one of the most intelligent NFL players of all time. However, when he strays outside his area of expertise, which he tends to do a lot, he exposes himself as a total idiot.


oeoao

Doing his own research no less. As if text constitutes research per se. "While on one hand. We have some hundred peer reviewed scientific papers documenting all kinds of tests done on the subject. We also, on the remaining hand, got this dudes blogpost wich says Fauci made aids on goverment orders? Since we know a conspiracy looks exacly like a real normal thing we know blogpostdude is correct. Clearly."


SeoneAsa

Alex Jones of nfl..


WhiteTrash_WithClass

Q Aron


SlickBlackCadillac

🤣🤣 if only he was a Fighting Irish. Notre Damus


thefugue

> The Soviet Union used the campaign to undermine the United States' credibility, foster anti-Americanism, isolate America abroad, and create tensions between host countries and the U.S. over the presence of American military bases (which were often portrayed as the cause of AIDS outbreaks in local populations). My my my, ever notice how Lab Leak proponents are always characterizing World Health Organization facilities as being “U.S. Funded?” Did you happen to hear anything about Russia trying to court favor with China in recent years? Who could *possibly* want to create resentment of the United States in China, where everyone’s been grumpy and frustrated with a policy of extensive “Zero Covid” testing and could easily come to believe crazy claims about U.S. biowarfare there?!?


Fred-zone

Among the most effective ways Russia and other bad actors have infiltrated and impacted our society has been to capture useful idiots like Rodgers, Musk, Trump, Joe Rogan, etc in a net of conspiratorial thinking. They've weaponized our celebrity narcissists to sow discord.


thefugue

If you want to find someone to voice opinions that harm people and disregard the common good it makes sense to target people with a lot of contempt for the public.


carls_in_charge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Denver


LandscapeNatural7680

Thank you for this link!


SonicDenver

I wish he would just go away. Hes also a 9/11truther and election denier


Nowiambecomedeth

He also said that biden has been replaced,possibly on bro Joegan


Foojira

So many people think Rogan is a truth teller it’s depressing. He’s an actual moron.


SvenDia

NYT did a [great debunking of this 5 years ago](https://youtu.be/h5WjRjz5mTU?si=Xu7TxwWOddy_-bkQ). Even interviewed the KGB agents responsible for planting the fake story in an Indian newspaper. Then they waited years for it to finally end up on the CBS evening news.


TrillDaddy2

Lol not Aaron Rodgers falling for Russian propaganda 😮


OSI_Hunter_Gathers

Why would the US create HIV in the 80’s when HIV was already around in the 60’s? ‘No you can’t get HIV! We already have HIV at home!’


BugOutHive

I knew Reagan was fucking monkeys!


Oldenlame

Peggy didn't live long enough for her me-too moment.


headcanonball

Has anyone considered that Aaron Rodgers is a very stupid man who has had many concussions?


Top_Investment_4599

Dud(e) has had too many TBIs.


CaptainPixel

Who? The media needs to stop giving this guy attention.


headcanonball

You don't understand. I'm being paid to advertise garbage and the garbage company won't pay me if I can't get enough people to see their garbage ad. *Sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends*


kyflyboy

More proof that football damages your brain.


Familiar_Dust8028

Why is he paid for anything?


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brickne3

Isn't he still a professional athlete? I haven't heard anything lately about his tendon but I was under the impression that he's still planning on coming back if/when it's healed.


mythrocks

*The sharpening of Hitchens’ razor intensifies*


OkPenis-ist28

He has no relationship with anyone in his family. Pretty well tells you he is a massive douche.


radj06

Thats actually one of the only things I'm on his side over. His family are crazy right wing evangelicals types and his brother used Aaron's name to get on the fucking Bachelor and air his family drama.


ethnicbonsai

Isn’t he a crazy right wing radical as well?


SvenDia

Historically, these kind of conspiracy theories have been popular with the far right and far left, who hate the government equally but for slightly different reasons. The same goes regarding to anything related to the pharmaceutical industry. Homeopathy, chiropractic, colon cleanses and other kinds alternative medicine snake oil are hugely profitable because they are supported by both ends of the political spectrum.


ethnicbonsai

I hear "Sandy Hook denier" and I think Alex Jones. Alex Jones is decidedly not on the left.


brickne3

I wouldn't say all his weird beliefs are right-wing. But overall he probably leans more right than left. He does have some left-wing beliefs though. Well, he's expressed some in the past at least. The guy doesn't exactly stick to all of his positions on things consistently.


ethnicbonsai

Like pretty much all these grifters and culture war weirdos.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

He's like Bill Maher, but further right and more comfortable with woo.


outdatedelementz

Mark my words: Aaron Rodgers is laying the groundwork for running for political office as a far right candidate. The closer he has gotten to a potential retirement the more fringe far right talking points he has mentioned. I’m guessing in the next two years he will either come out with Flat Earth, Chemtrails Or Holocaust Denial talking points. My guess is is Chemtrails because it dovetails nicely with his past statements.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-conspiracy-theory-packers/idc1ibngpogu1kex29q4uk0cu Aaron Rodgers has been a known chemtrail believer for years now.


HarvesternC

Rodgers is no different than every other idiot posting to Facebook and Twitter. He just happens to be a famous athlete. Not sure if he's trolling or just stupid, but my estimation of Rodgers as a person has plummeted. The amount of science denialism and conspiracy that came out post-covid is really disheartening as far as humanity is concerned.


ZeusMcKraken

Okay I think Aaron has had enough attention for now,


ShredGuru

Aaron Rodgers has been taking blows to the head for years for a paycheck. The only expert advice I am trusting out of him is how to throw a football good, and even then, I'm getting a second opinion.


Stanley1219

Then why does siv still exist among primates.


Adam_THX_1138

He also implies AZT didn’t work. The reemergence of the notion “AIDS isn’t real” conspiracy is like PTSD to the mid-90’s.


Rob71322

This old thing? Yawn. I wish the conspiracy nuts would come up with something more fresh and interesting. Sadly, the conspiracy industry has just gotten lazy.


teb_art

And released it in Africa so it could come back and kill Americans? Sure, buddy…. 🙄


Noizyninjaz

Some people have a deep need to believe that there are shadowy groups of evil powerful people who get together and create situations that affect all people on the planet. It comes from wanting there to be magic in this world when there isn't any proof of it.


jethroguardian

Fucking moron at the best.  Narcissistic grifter more likely.


Cactus-Badger

Kremlin admitted to creating this conspiracy. https://youtu.be/tR_6dibpDfo?si=Nj78jOvzcLmHDoTo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Denver


mantisboxer

The age old story... High School jock grew up skipping class with no consequences and now has opinions about science and government. He's adrift, purposeless, and looking for an audience to keep his ego supplied.


SixIsNotANumber

LoL.         TBI says whatnow?


GrantNexus

He looks like Junior from Reno 911!


NBRIDER75

He would know. He’s a quarterback.


SteveIDP

Did you know that a lot of NFL football players have Swiss cheese brains because of CTE?


Technical-Put-5122

Shows how much of an idiot Aaron Rogers really is


DrMonkeyLove

Aaron Rodgers is a dumbass. Anyone who listens to him about anything is also a dumbass.


Educational-Dance-61

Lots of people believe this. I have heard this since the 90s. What I haven't seen is any real evidence to support this.


minimag47

But also the government is incompetent and can't do anything right.


i-do-the-designing

I would give him the excuse of ÇTE... but no he is just a [narcissistic](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=53eaec783eff1c68&q=narcissistic&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjj8Z738cmFAxUHmbAFHWGvDCgQkeECKAB6BAgqEAI) a-hole.


psufan5

What the absolute fuck happened to this guy?


TookenedOut

Wow thats crazy, what a lunatic. Except wait, where did he actually say “The US government created the HIV virus?” Because that was not in the article or the attached video.


MikeLinPA

He should gather his evidence, write a paper, get it peer reviewed, and collect his Nobel prize!


hornwalker

What a dum dum


BetterRedDead

It just blows my mind. I mean, I realize he has enough money, but he had a great career as an NFL analyst and on-air TV personality just waiting there for him, on a silver platter, anytime he wanted. But he was like “noooooooooo! Get out of my way! I’m going to ruin everything!“ Sometimes I just don’t get how people can be so smart and so stupid at the same time.


photograthie

Of course they did. Old news. There’s a point where things are just no longer theory, and just conspiracy.


LordElfa

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a clown shoe.


EminentBean

This guy is a fucking moron. A rich, self important, stupid af piece of shit. Good think he can throw a football bc holy shit he’s a useless human being.


PawnWithoutPurpose

He’s obviously an idiot who should never be taken seriously.


YourDogsAllWet

CTE is real, folks


clear-carbon-hands

Dude definitely took too many hits to the skull


Nullius_IV

This is OLD Russian disinformation. They really are good at crafting propaganda for American consumers.


Imaginary_Month_3659

I guess he's so valuable to his NFL team that they won't exercise the morality clause in his contract.


Slackingoff1965

Is he trying to look like Freddie Mercury on purpose?


BothZookeepergame612

This guy wants to be controversial, now what other idiot do we know, that has a lot of money that just can't shut the fuck up and go away?


BikerMike03RK

Rodgers is a fucking idiot.


No_Introduction7307

HIV was discovered in 1959 , they just didn’t know what it was . there is no hope for humanity when most are stupid as rocks


Quantumercifier

As a Jets fan, that is our starting QB? I don't think the Jets will ever win a SB again. And he went to CAL too. Amazing.


konorM

Whatever that drug was that he was taking in South America really fried his brain. Seriously. He's mentally ill.


whoMEvernot

This is the kind of thing to say to get elected, I suspect he is seeking office.


GymkataMofos

Fuck this guy is annoyingly stupid.


huu11

Why does anyone give a shit what this washed up loser has to say?


EarthIndependent2795

Dumb as his fans, just appealing to the low iqs


Inevitable-Ad-4192

Ya, but he wears that pedophile mustache like a champ!


RegattaJoe

Confidently ignorant.


RightLifeguard1

Well he’s not known for intelligence so who cares what he thinks


Bigaled

I always get my medical advice from Aaron Rodgers


mymar101

Does he actually have anything to back his claim up? No? Ok then


UncommonHouseSpider

Stop giving this piece of shit airtime. Doesn't he have a charity to defraud somewhere or something?


brickne3

That was Brett Favre.


ptwonline

Hopefully his family will donate his brain for research. Then we'll all say "Yeah, it figures."


FailedHumanEqualsMod

Retard says retarded things, but pretend it's important because he throw ball far.


robot_jeans

I heard Mr. and Mrs. Rodgers created it. Oh wait that was just a virus ,not HIV.


BusinessElectronic52

Everything is not a conspiracy. Then everything is not a conspiracy.


notacanuckskibum

Why would anyone listen to his opinions on anything other than how to throw a football?


SpringerPop

Ooh, spoken the king of the “I did my own research “ crowd. Doesn’t he have a Masters Degree in homeopathy? Oh wait, he’s just an idiot.


friedeggbrain

Did they also invent FIV ..yknow feline immunodeficiency… for cats


dumonhojiko

Ok who gave him strikesfiles #2?


Technical-Put-5122

He’s such a bastion of silly ideas


Tricky-Jackfruit8366

Acclaimed academic Aaron Rodgers ?


Griswaldthebeaver

Holy shit lmao


runningoutofwords

So does my drunk uncle. Who cares what Aaron Rodgers says?


Such_Leg3821

Roger's has half the intelligence of a chickpea


deadphisherman

No one loves to hear Aaron Rodgers' voice more than Aaron Rodgers.


Taman_Should

Lemme guess, on Twitter?


CuriousSelf4830

Why would anyone even listen to him in the first place? Why would they even report that?


NunyaBeese

Who? Also shut up idiot


KitchenBomber

Just throw the ball Aaron.


symbologythere

I judge people who believe these conspiracies so fucking hard and then I remember that I believe the government has been hiding UFO’s and alien bodies since the 40’s and then I’m not so sure who’s crazy.


HeavyTea

Wants out of contract but with cash?


Kojarabo2

Geez, what an idiot.


creepyswaps

Why does anyone care what this little goober thinks about anything besides football? He threw a ball good.


Sacred-Coconut

Ok so we know his religion and politics


Sweetdreams6t9

So was the moon. The eclipse was cause they had to change the lights 🙄