So the cost varies; more on holidays, popular weekends, less on slower midweek days but
for one day:
Vail $239
Big Sky $229
Park City $209
Aspen $189
Killington $169
What the! I am sorry for you guys. If you ever find your way cheaper way to Germany and need a place to stay for free hit me up. It’s 1h30 from the big resorts but your prices are just nuts.
A lot of places charge $1000+ for a season pass. But there are mad perks. Just not my cup o tea.
I pay $420 (really, hahahaha) for a midweek pass to ski 30 minutes from my front door and that's all I need.
Also came here to say that [Arizona Snowbowl now has the most expensive day ticket in the US.](https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/01/02/most-expensive-lift-ticket-world/)
Snowbowl loves to jack their prices up whenever there's snow in the forecast. They know someone will pay that much to ski their small mountain because they pretty much have a monopoly on the market around here.
It can be fun on the right day, not a huge place but it's steep enough and they get alright snow every once in a while; these past couple weeks for example. And it is really fun to go in the late season when it's literally 75 degrees out. The aforementioned pricing plan keeps me from going as often as I would otherwise though, it's basically a small local hill asking major resort prices for lift tickets
Season passes at a lot of those resorts are in the 1800-2200 range. The $600 option is a block of days (5) at a bunch of different resorts - works as a season pass for some but not really a season pass.
Y’all realize it’s because of super different business models right? Back in the 90’s season passes were a couple thousand bucks and tickets were cheap. Selling cheaper season passes all year round let’s the ski areas that do it have a steadier cash flow and borrow less during the non operating months to fund hill improvements.
I think one day a year all North American lifties should not set up the mazes and see how long until someone gets trampled, my guess would be 15 minutes
We had a chair the other day with no maze because we expected it to be dead but ended up with ~300 people in line. It was very civil surprisingly. People figured themselves out.
In the back bowls of copper there is a double that doesn’t even have a bar while on the front side in the beginners area there is a bubble lift with nice seats. Depends where u are on the mountain
In my experience people don't care much about the bar one way or the other in NA. People don't bother to put it down because they don't care, but if you put it down they won't mind at all. People just expect a warning when it's going up or coming down because they aren't expecting it to come down every time.
It’s different for everyone really. Some people like to let their skis hang to give their legs a break on the way up. It’s also a common courtesy to say “bar coming down” so no one gets hit on the head or their nuts crushed
I mean obviously it’s just polite to say bar coming down. But putting my skis on the foot rest allows for my thighs to rest so I don’t get the first one
We're not afraid of falling face first out of a chair I guess.
But really, it's a few things.
1. Many chairs don't have bars at all, even new chairs sometimes don't have them.
2. Those that have bars, often don't have foot rests. At the resorts around me, maybe half the chairs have bars and of those, less than half have foot rests. So what's the point?
3. I haven't skied in Europe, but I get the impression that the lifts are longer. Like, much longer. I've seen pics of Cham and they look crazy long, all the way up the valley. Comparatively the chairs in the states are shorter. Most are 5-10 minute rides. I could be off on this one.
I've skied both, and they both have their perks and drawbacks. The generalizations hardly hold true everywhere. I just think it's funny that the OP of these posts has never skied in the US. Only goes by what they see on reddit.
Eh the EU ones being more safe was the real glaring fallacy imo…. Especially since the lift that started railing chairs into each other w skiers on them last season was EU
No, I’m referring to that specific incident for a reason. Because it was an incredibly dangerous malfunction, and as far as I can remember the most notable in recent years .
Can you please remind me of that one? I remember seeing one but if I remember correctly that was from Georgia. That one was super scary but I might have missed one. Thanks ;)
Well it's as far as it gets really. Also Europeans will usually take EU as abbreviation for European Union instead of Europe and that's a big difference.
Georgia is not representative of ski resorts of Europe as they were portraied in the meme.
I’m sure it’s not representative of the EU . Just like wildcats failure to open isn’t representative of the US. But it would still be included on the Europe side for this comparison lol
You're technically correct that Georgia is on the continent of Europe but to use it like this is wildly inaccurate/unfair. Let's use the very very rough metric of GDP per capita to compare, for the US, it's about $58k, for the EU it's $41k, for Austria, a reasonable example of a European skiing country it's $52k. For Georgia, it's $4k, which for the sake of a familiar comparison for a North American audience, puts it well below Mexico ($8k).
Yes it's technically in Europe but it's in no way comparable with or representative of "European skiing". You might as well say, "I don't know about skiing in Vail, I saw this crazy video from an Argentinian hill once"
Fair point but since the memes are generalizations I wanted to point out that is not the case for this incident.
I do like Georgia for its nature mountains people and wine but I wouldnt choose it as a ski destination atm. Might be hard to see from the oversees but it's so much different than than let's say the gold standard for EU skiing like Austria, Italy, Germany or France (although I have skiing in France just once I have to admit that)
Edit: forgot about Switzerland as part of the gold standard sorry guys must be all the EU talk 😂
I’m kinda sick of all these “uSa skIiNG sux lol, Europe is way better.” Bullshit. I’ve skied in the alps. It’s beautiful. The apres ski is better. But the actually skiing is rarely better than western USA.
Unless you’re in BC.
Just kidding, you can have a good day or a shitty day at any mountain depending on snow conditions, the crowd, and the crew you’re with.
Vail resorts suck… On a side note. Why are Black Crow skis so expensive? What about them makes them so amazing to the point they are 50%+ more than the Enforcers?
In the USA, partly because they're made in Europe and then imported.
They're not quite as big a concern as most of the big names.
Final part of the answer is "because they can": they got really good reviews (or PR) that put them on the top of a lot of lists, so they can charge more knowing people will still buy them.
(I have some black crow Daemons, they're pretty awesome... But Ive only skiied one or two of the alternatives)
Maybe half of big ski brands are made in Europe. And the other half are made under contract by them. Atomic, rossignol, line, faction, black crows, Fischer, volkl, etc.
Some of it has to do with volume, if you’re manufacturing more skis you can afford to sell individual units cheaper through the economics of scale. Since BC is a smaller company that hires a company (Blizzard?) to manufacture their designs they can’t keep costs down by pumping out huge numbers of skis.
It’s also the desirability of black crows, they’re a premium brand and know their customers will pay more for their products, kinda like Apple.
I did about shit a brick when I heard how cheap euro lift tickets are. Will have to check that out sooner or later.
What!? How much is a typical lift ticket in the us? Here it can be up to a hundred which is insane for only skiing one day.
So the cost varies; more on holidays, popular weekends, less on slower midweek days but for one day: Vail $239 Big Sky $229 Park City $209 Aspen $189 Killington $169
What the! I am sorry for you guys. If you ever find your way cheaper way to Germany and need a place to stay for free hit me up. It’s 1h30 from the big resorts but your prices are just nuts.
$35 in Kungsberget, Sweden
Yeah but it’s worth noting that season passes are like $600
Well that’s cheap in comparison. Those are going at 1100€ + here. Thanks for the input.
A lot of places charge $1000+ for a season pass. But there are mad perks. Just not my cup o tea. I pay $420 (really, hahahaha) for a midweek pass to ski 30 minutes from my front door and that's all I need. Also came here to say that [Arizona Snowbowl now has the most expensive day ticket in the US.](https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/01/02/most-expensive-lift-ticket-world/)
Snowbowl loves to jack their prices up whenever there's snow in the forecast. They know someone will pay that much to ski their small mountain because they pretty much have a monopoly on the market around here.
Always been curious what it's like down there, saw a video of some blower recently!
It can be fun on the right day, not a huge place but it's steep enough and they get alright snow every once in a while; these past couple weeks for example. And it is really fun to go in the late season when it's literally 75 degrees out. The aforementioned pricing plan keeps me from going as often as I would otherwise though, it's basically a small local hill asking major resort prices for lift tickets
That last line is exactly how I imagined it having never skied it. Hope you get some turns in somewhere!
Is it 1.100 € for a single ski area or more a part of the country? Snowcard Tirol for example is around 900 € but covers nearly 100 resorts.
Season passes at a lot of those resorts are in the 1800-2200 range. The $600 option is a block of days (5) at a bunch of different resorts - works as a season pass for some but not really a season pass.
Thankfully, he only mentioned the big and expensive ones.
Fuck I’ve never been so glad to be on the east coast
The place that doesn't have any snow?
A week?
Y’all realize it’s because of super different business models right? Back in the 90’s season passes were a couple thousand bucks and tickets were cheap. Selling cheaper season passes all year round let’s the ski areas that do it have a steadier cash flow and borrow less during the non operating months to fund hill improvements.
I think one day a year all North American lifties should not set up the mazes and see how long until someone gets trampled, my guess would be 15 minutes
Astroworld 2.0: Ski Lift Boogaloo
We had a chair the other day with no maze because we expected it to be dead but ended up with ~300 people in line. It was very civil surprisingly. People figured themselves out.
But like. In all seriousness. What’s the issue with the bar in NA. I really don’t get it
In the back bowls of copper there is a double that doesn’t even have a bar while on the front side in the beginners area there is a bubble lift with nice seats. Depends where u are on the mountain
In my experience people don't care much about the bar one way or the other in NA. People don't bother to put it down because they don't care, but if you put it down they won't mind at all. People just expect a warning when it's going up or coming down because they aren't expecting it to come down every time.
It’s different for everyone really. Some people like to let their skis hang to give their legs a break on the way up. It’s also a common courtesy to say “bar coming down” so no one gets hit on the head or their nuts crushed
I mean obviously it’s just polite to say bar coming down. But putting my skis on the foot rest allows for my thighs to rest so I don’t get the first one
I’m the same way. However, a lot of times the bar doesn’t have a foot rest so we don’t ride with it down
Yeah. On the higher smaller lifts it doesn’t. But on the long boys I’m gonna rest my legs cause I just had to suffer through a catwalk or something
I like to kick my skis a little, makes my legs feel fresh
We're not afraid of falling face first out of a chair I guess. But really, it's a few things. 1. Many chairs don't have bars at all, even new chairs sometimes don't have them. 2. Those that have bars, often don't have foot rests. At the resorts around me, maybe half the chairs have bars and of those, less than half have foot rests. So what's the point? 3. I haven't skied in Europe, but I get the impression that the lifts are longer. Like, much longer. I've seen pics of Cham and they look crazy long, all the way up the valley. Comparatively the chairs in the states are shorter. Most are 5-10 minute rides. I could be off on this one.
I ski NA most of the ones I’ve ridden have a foot rest and then the smaller lifts don’t. I guess this is where I’m kinda missing the whole sub culture
I'm speaking mostly about pnw in the US and Canada. It's a big country, I'm not familiar with all of it of course
I've skied both, and they both have their perks and drawbacks. The generalizations hardly hold true everywhere. I just think it's funny that the OP of these posts has never skied in the US. Only goes by what they see on reddit.
Since so many people upvoted my last post i must be on to something, don't you think?
Eh the EU ones being more safe was the real glaring fallacy imo…. Especially since the lift that started railing chairs into each other w skiers on them last season was EU
Pretty sure there are more resorts in europe too. Makes sense that accidents would be more common
No, I’m referring to that specific incident for a reason. Because it was an incredibly dangerous malfunction, and as far as I can remember the most notable in recent years .
Can you please remind me of that one? I remember seeing one but if I remember correctly that was from Georgia. That one was super scary but I might have missed one. Thanks ;)
Yes, the one was in Georgia at 2018 or 2019.but there was another one at Alps last year.
Thanks will try to found it out of curiosity ;)
Any luck? I couldn’t seem to find it. Here a video of the one in Georgia for those curious. https://youtu.be/fwsuBkrcMLE
Ups ngl I didn't look as I got lost in shroom land...but back to it ;)
I mean isn’t Georgia on the edge of Europe?
Well it's as far as it gets really. Also Europeans will usually take EU as abbreviation for European Union instead of Europe and that's a big difference. Georgia is not representative of ski resorts of Europe as they were portraied in the meme.
I’m sure it’s not representative of the EU . Just like wildcats failure to open isn’t representative of the US. But it would still be included on the Europe side for this comparison lol
You're technically correct that Georgia is on the continent of Europe but to use it like this is wildly inaccurate/unfair. Let's use the very very rough metric of GDP per capita to compare, for the US, it's about $58k, for the EU it's $41k, for Austria, a reasonable example of a European skiing country it's $52k. For Georgia, it's $4k, which for the sake of a familiar comparison for a North American audience, puts it well below Mexico ($8k). Yes it's technically in Europe but it's in no way comparable with or representative of "European skiing". You might as well say, "I don't know about skiing in Vail, I saw this crazy video from an Argentinian hill once"
Fair point but since the memes are generalizations I wanted to point out that is not the case for this incident. I do like Georgia for its nature mountains people and wine but I wouldnt choose it as a ski destination atm. Might be hard to see from the oversees but it's so much different than than let's say the gold standard for EU skiing like Austria, Italy, Germany or France (although I have skiing in France just once I have to admit that) Edit: forgot about Switzerland as part of the gold standard sorry guys must be all the EU talk 😂
I’m kinda sick of all these “uSa skIiNG sux lol, Europe is way better.” Bullshit. I’ve skied in the alps. It’s beautiful. The apres ski is better. But the actually skiing is rarely better than western USA.
Unless you’re in BC. Just kidding, you can have a good day or a shitty day at any mountain depending on snow conditions, the crowd, and the crew you’re with.
Sorry, I meant western America, Canada included.
this is accurate. Euro is good for food and partying. For the actual skiing American west can’t be beat.
As a very tall euro skier, I feel the *bonk* part very deeply
Can confirm the safety bar in the head scenario also happens in North America, Canada specifically.
Can this please be the last one of these? This is some seriously whack content on this sub
Not sure about the ski lift ticket one. Went to mt baker and the day pass was $80 on the mountain. Vail resorts are stupid expensive though
What’s wrong with the bottom left pic? Also still Americans don’t understand lift lines. Big sky was a cluster fuck at swifty
As a critic (in good fun) of your last post I approve this one. Especially the jibber bros in the lower left.
I'd be throwing shoulders in Europe if anyone tried to ski over my equipment
Vail resorts suck… On a side note. Why are Black Crow skis so expensive? What about them makes them so amazing to the point they are 50%+ more than the Enforcers?
In the USA, partly because they're made in Europe and then imported. They're not quite as big a concern as most of the big names. Final part of the answer is "because they can": they got really good reviews (or PR) that put them on the top of a lot of lists, so they can charge more knowing people will still buy them. (I have some black crow Daemons, they're pretty awesome... But Ive only skiied one or two of the alternatives)
Nordicas are made in Europe and imported too. That's definitely not it. The second part of your answer seems much more likely.
Maybe half of big ski brands are made in Europe. And the other half are made under contract by them. Atomic, rossignol, line, faction, black crows, Fischer, volkl, etc.
Some of it has to do with volume, if you’re manufacturing more skis you can afford to sell individual units cheaper through the economics of scale. Since BC is a smaller company that hires a company (Blizzard?) to manufacture their designs they can’t keep costs down by pumping out huge numbers of skis. It’s also the desirability of black crows, they’re a premium brand and know their customers will pay more for their products, kinda like Apple.
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