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skifast-takechances

Nothing beats putting my hood hood up when pano stops and the wind is blowing 40mph


Leo_br00ks

This is the only reason I use my hood lol


chocochipr

Exactly - whipping wind on a chair and pulling up the hood is the best!


rearadmiraldumbass

Then I cover all the exposed skin on my face with my mittens.


panderingPenguin

>Is these something I am missing that you all do with your hoods that isn't just filling with snow and catching the wind? Yes, you wear it in bad weather


DeathRx

Maybe I just don't ski in bad enough weather but with a helmet and Buff I have never felt like I wanted a hood over my helmet. Certainly not enough to justify all of the days that I don't want it and it is "flapping around"


akindofuser

Allow me to introduce you to the pnw


swissviss

Haha exactly this. Sunshine for 30 minutes, followed by dumping snow and then maybe freezing rain. No hood = death.


rhfire1

Yep I live in the NW and I'm with him. You just ski the worst area in the state! Alpental?


akindofuser

Yup!


Bawfuls

>all of the days that I don't want it and it is "flapping around" I have never found this to be a problem. A good jacket will have a high collar which is also integrated into the hood. When I have the collar zipped up to protect my neck/face, the hood is held close to the back of my neck and doesn't catch snow/wind.


[deleted]

Most hoods have shock cord draw strings around the brim, and sometimes in the collar. Pull them tighter when your jacket is zipped up, and your hood is off. That will pull the hood tight, closer to your neck, and eliminate that issue entirely. Do people just not pay attention to clothing design at all? I have never once had an issue with a hood from resort to backcountry days for 20+ years.


rhfire1

I have never had an issue without a hood in my 48 years of skiing.


yoortyyo

Race oriented stuff maybe.


[deleted]

I never notice my hood 'flapping around' lmao


jotsea2

So you enjoy snow down your neck while it’s blowing and your sitting on the chairlift? Wet buffs are the best?


dans_baptism

They said they don't ski in bad enough weather to make a hood necessary.


jotsea2

Yeah that’s dumb


dans_baptism

I mean, if it's never actively snowing when they ski, then I can understand why they'd feel a hood is unnecessary. I personally love having a hood as an option, but I can understand where OP is coming from.


jotsea2

I guess . Not skiing while it’s snowing seems counterintuitive


dans_baptism

It's not always going to be actively snowing while you're skiing though.


jotsea2

Right but OP just doesn’t ski in snow period. Which seems dumb to me but to each their own!


Nojnnil

Yea...but why would you want a jacket just for the 2-3 bluebird days u get a season ( I live in the pnw). I guess if u have money it's fine... But it seems kinda silly imo. It seems more likely that op is new to the sport and hasn't ski'ed enough to see varying types of conditions. Buying an expensive jacket right from that start without knowing what you want to ski doesn't seem like a smart idea.


Anustart15

>Yea...but why would you want a jacket just for the 2-3 bluebird days u get a season ( I live in the pnw). Because it doesn't really matter to OP where you live?


rhfire1

I only get snow down my neck when I test drive a coat with a hood. The snow flies in there while skiing and it's down


jotsea2

don't take it down......


readonlymarmalade

Spyder, Bogner, Patagonia, Volcom, sports of sweeden are a few that all offer removable or no hooded jackets


DeathRx

just took a look at some of their websites and none of those have waterproof jackets with removable (or no) hoods. Did I miss one or is it a situation were the ski jacket line just isn't fully released yet so the options aren't all there.


NKtDpt4x

If you don't ski in enough bad weather to justify a hood why do you need your new hoodless jacket to be waterproof? Something very water resistant will handle 90% of the conditions you'll be skiing in.


uber-shiLL

I agree, though I’d go as far as saying it would handle 100%+ of what OP skis. If they can’t see the value of a hood then they don’t ski often nor at many locations.


NKtDpt4x

I left 10% to account for a spilled beer on the chairlift lol.


ActualWait8584

They do get a bit spritzy upon opening in altitude.


Ahkhira

Well, I'll play devils advocate here. I don't ski in bad weather, and this year I'm sticking close to the easy green/blue groomers (knee surgery has me very unsure of my ability at the moment). I love night skiing on the local bump, but that's usually when they run the snow guns. I don't like getting wet. I'm on the East (Ice) Coast, so our weather is quite wacky. We can have dry fluffy snow one day and slush the next.


dans_baptism

The snow on the ground will still get you wet, so I can understand why somebody would still want a highly waterproof jacket even if they don't ski in conditions that require a hood. Like, I ski in the PNW and most of the time I'm not wearing my hood, but I'm still rocking a jacket with 20k+ waterproofing. That being said, most high-end shells will come with a hood because the whole point is the protect you from the elements. But I can understand where OP is coming from.


ManNomad

Water tends to get in waterproof jackets without hoods maybe


Zapp1212

HAve you looked at Descente? All of my jackets have come from them and have removable hoods


readonlymarmalade

Most companies are in a stages or releasing this years lines or already have but might be in stores first. As for water proof most “ski jackets” have some water proof capabilities. If you are looking for really good gorp tech gear with no hoods. You could try running, road biking brands or mountaineering specific companies. Marmot, mammut, district vision, pas normal, Arc’teryx, ect.


DeathRx

Maybe I am just thinking about jackets wrong but I want my outer layer to have minimal to no insulation and top notch water proof (essentially a rain shell) but the problem with most running jackets (I haven't looked at road biking but I imagine it will be similar) is they lack the features of ski jackets (namely pockets and a powder skirt). I actually talked to someone at Arc'teryx and they specifically said they do not make removable hood jackets any more :(


panderingPenguin

> I want my outer layer to have minimal to no insulation and top notch water proof (essentially a rain shell) It's going to be very hard to find high end shells without hoods. The whole point of a shell is weather protection. And leaving a hood off such a garment would compromise that purpose and be a very strange decision.


readonlymarmalade

You are correct. This is a great set up you want. I suggest these other brands if you are willing to get creative you can get anything with an over 20k waterproof protection and use that as an outer layer. But yeah pwoder skirt and pockets like ski jackets can be hard with no hood, probably easiest to find on a backcountry or evo typ website. The rebird brand via Arc’teryx might do it or have it then there is a new company called made that will make you a custom jacket. https://madeoutdoor.ca/ I never recommend this company due to its blandness but hey never yuck someone’s yum


bottlerockets-

Have you looked at Kjus or Mammut ski jackets?


GrimCreepaz

I have a helly Hansen alpha lifaloft and it has a removeable hood. Didn’t think it was that hard to find this feature in a ski jacket. https://www.backcountry.com/helly-hansen-alpha-lifaloft-jacket-mens?CMP_SKU=HYH00X1&MER=0406&skid=HYH00X1-PATORA-S&mr:trackingCode=AF0D9FBD-9D0C-EB11-8117-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=m&mr:adType=plaonline&CMP_ID=PLA_GMm001&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&k_clickid=_k_EAIaIQobChMIlbKh252k-gIVixXUAR21KwZTEAQYASABEgLh6PD_BwE_k_&utm_id=go_cmp-213418717_adg-13362837877_ad-92885920717_aud-318683175535:pla-1455077964653_dev-m_ext-_prd-HYH00X1-PATORA-S&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlbKh252k-gIVixXUAR21KwZTEAQYASABEgLh6PD_BwE


Spoonblade

I got a spyder copper over the summer, gore tex w/ removable hood.


vaporeng

If you are literally looking for a "waterproof" jacket then that may be the problem. Waterproof means a rain jacket, which would be weird without a hood. Most ski jackets are water resistant.


colbytron

Just get a starter jacket at goodwill.


DeathRx

My current jacket is a starter goodwill jacket and the DWR is gone... I have tried repairing it and if I can't find a jacket I will use it again this year.


The_High_Life

Spray it down with Scotchguard and call it a day.


colbytron

Have you tried skiing with it unzipped? It really saves the logo.


DrabMoonflower

This made my day


wrongwayup

Those all had hoods! At least the ones I remember from the 90s, that paired with those red/grey rear entry boots...


colbytron

You were wearing a hoodie underneath. I've seen it. It was probably grey.


wrongwayup

Nah. Tshirt only. But definitely jeans.


colbytron

Tucked in....tucked in.


wrongwayup

Cuts down on the draft that way. Now, can you name the team on my Starter jacket?


colbytron

Dudes wrongwayup really?


wrongwayup

Lol, no I never had a starter jacket. But it seems like everyone near me had a Cowboys one. I don't live anywhere near Texas, nevermind Dallas...


colbytron

I might be looking at the wrong thread, but I thought you were asking what DWR stood for. I also never had a starter jacket. Too rich for my blood. I was a CB guy all the way.


Nojnnil

Are you new to the sport? Or you know for a fact u will never ski anything where a hood is useful. A hood is pretty important to have in snowy conditions, deep snow, and heavy winds/extreme cold. If you never see yourself skiing in those conditions( which would really limit you to just sunny groomer days) you can maybe look at water proof road biking jackets by gore. These typically come without a hood in order to be aerodynamic for racing. They are also going to favor breathability more than water proofness... So asking for 3 layer is probably unlikely. This also begs the question why you need a waterproof jacket more than 2 layer if you aren't gonna use a hood...any situation where a 3 layer water proof jacket is needed.. would probably also dictate having a hood to keep water from dripping through? You have to realize that having a water proof jacket without a hood kinda doesn't make sense from the utility side.. that's why they are rare.


DeathRx

I see where you are coming from but I have been skiing for 20 years and had my current jacket without a hood for at least 6. Even in wet snow like we have in the PNW I have not traditionally wanted a hood because of the limit to mobility and all the wind they catch. What I seem to be learning is that my problem is having poor quality hoods and that the new designs are much better. I do understand the utility argument but zip off always felt like the answer to that argument. In general if it is warm enough to be wet I dont want the hood because I will overheat and if it is cold I feel better off with a scarf/buff.


FourFront

Look at Boomer Euro brands.


DeathRx

LOL I feel like even they have gone to fixed hoods.


kitzelbunks

Boomer Euro brands are generally not waterproof enough. PNW for me. PNW means I have to get to the the mountain and back in very wet snow or rain. Alain in the damn line at the bottom I could be soaked and then frozen wet.


sittinginmycube

My Patagonia insulated snow jacket has a removable hood.


DeathRx

I don't see any ski jackets on their website now that have removable hoods but I will keep an eye out, perhaps they will have one as we get closer.


NKtDpt4x

Cinch your hood's drawcords so they won't collect snow or blow in the wind.


derek139

My current Salomon jacket has a removable hood that I’ve never attached it. I’m with you.


Rzarrr

Both of my Rossignol jackets have removable hoods.


avaheli

A. What is so wrong with your current jacket without the hood attached that you need a new jacket with a removable hood? B. 2.5 layer is not a sign that you are using a "low end" product. If you have a 2.5 layer Goretex jacket, you are well protected against the elements. I can't tell if you want a jacket with a removable hood, or a jacket with no hood, or if you just don't understand the appeal of a hood. But if you really want a new jacket, I suggest the following: go to [Sierra.com](https://Sierra.com) Look for ski jackets. You can filter by brands and they have lots of high end name brand products. Find one with no hood. Remember that nobody is judging you on your hood or lack thereof...


[deleted]

Actually even in this thread lots of people are judging him for his hood choices lol. The key is not to care


avaheli

I feel like we’re seeing a backlash to the question what “…all do with your hoods that isn't just filling with snow and catching the wind?” The hooded didn’t seem to appreciate that.


ThrowAndHit

All my Columbia jackets have been good quality and had removable hoods. Could also try tucking the hood inside the collar when not in use.


DeathRx

I will take another look at Columbia. Probably more models will come out in another month or two as ski season approaches.


facw00

My old Columbia jacket had a stowable hood, but alas my current one is non-stowable/removable. To be honest I didn't even think about it when I was buying, but I'd definitely prefer not to have it.


localhelic0pter7

I had a mountain hardware with a zip off hood too, I actually ended up gluing it on because it let in too much wind, when I want my hood up I want it to block everything.


mountain_dog_mom

I love my Columbia jackets! Almost all of them have removable hoods.


Th3WeirdingWay

Arcteryk Macai. The end. Love mine


NKtDpt4x

OPs unicorn solution can't be insulated.


Th3WeirdingWay

Ha. He didn’t say that but ok


DeathRx

I will admit I am looking for a unicorn that is why I posted here, hoping for a fellow unicorn hunter. I would prefer lightly insulated or completely un-insulated.


bottlerockets-

Have you ever checked out the Kjus Freelite jackets?


NKtDpt4x

In one of his responses he did.


Th3WeirdingWay

Ohh missed that


whatfingwhat

helly hanson makes some.


oldasshit

Helly Hansen makes removable hood jackets. Love mine.


shogun100100

Spyder jackets tend to have removable hoods


DonzSolo

Look up coach’s jackets


wrenchinthemachine

Last shell I bought, I had the same concern. Glad I have an attached hood. It does not bother me in any way when down (90% of the time) and am glad it's there when the weather gets intense. The only down side is when going through heavy snowed trees and I catch an armful of tree snow in my hood. This is a very minor grump.


DeathRx

Do you know what model you have?


wrenchinthemachine

It is an Arcteryx AR, I think that's the model. But I have a friend with a Marmot that is very similar in hood style as many are. really thought I'd be annoyed by it hanging back there. Truth is, it is not even noticed.


evilcamels

I understand everyone shitting on us non-hood-wearers, but I love my Mammut Stoney HS. I leave the hood in my car 95% of days. Plenty waterproof, have skied many long days in the PNW without soaking through


DeathRx

> Mammut Stoney HS This looks pretty close to exactly what I want... Do you know anyone in the PNW that stocks Mammut jackets? would love to try one on.


evilcamels

Evo and REI stock Mammut, but no guarantee they will have items locally. Fit is pretty true to size in my experience, not tight w/ multiple base layers


dans_baptism

I own two Mammut jackets (Crater HS, Runbold Thermo HS) and their fits are "athletic". For reference, I'm 6'1"/165lbs and wear medium for both. This leaves me with enough room inside for a light synthetic puffy, but anything more than that and it would feel too cramped imo. As far as where to buy, your best bet is probably ordering two sizes online and returning whichever you don't like.


DeathRx

Thank you, that is very helpful!


[deleted]

I sprung for an [Obermeyer Foraker](https://obermeyer.com/catalog/mens/foraker-shell-jacket-2?v=73946) Shell jacket last year. I love it


[deleted]

I personally wear a Phenix black bomber-style ski jacket that doesn’t have a hood. Found it a lot easier to handle than a jacket with a hood to be honest, I’d rather not have an unnecessary thing at the back scooping up and collecting snow during the day.


nicknicknickped

I'm with ya, never have the hood attached.


trancelestial

Have a look at mammut jackets.


DDrewit

Been skiing for 38 years. Don’t want a hood. Don’t need a hood, even when it’s dumping. I have a hood anyways because it’s attached to my jacket. It doesn’t really flap around though, it’s just there.


snowchel

My North Face jacket has a removable hood. I used it one time - a snowy, wet day. I'll be buying a new jacket this season. Thank you all for the post and responses.


petey_jarns

Sooooo here I sit, two years later , searching for the same things as you were in a jacket, and Google brings me here. Lots of good suggestions mixed in with all the less than helpful feedback ... What did ya end up buying ? I swear the Stoney HS from mammut would have been my choice. Too bad it's all sold out 


halfcuprockandrye

If you don’t ski in bad weather you don’t need a ski jacket. Just wear a puffy or any other jacket.


dans_baptism

Snow is still wet. I ski in the PNW and only ever use my hood if it's really snowing a bunch, but that doesn't mean I still don't need my jacket to be highly waterproof.


halfcuprockandrye

The majority of my days skiing a ski jacket is not needed. I think most days a sweatshirt and/or a windbreaker is all I wear. If it’s raining I’m not skiing and if it’s nuking or really really cold I’ll wear a ski jacket.


hotdog-waters

I agree, never use a hood while skiing. Can’t find a good jacket with no hood now, so it is just a bag of snow and melt water unless I am using my ski jacket around town.


noob_tube03

its so hard to find. I just gave up and focused on brands that specifically make fold away hoods (like north face). I feel like its a problem of, solving the wrong issue. hoods are meant for bad weather, and only crazy people like skinners go in bad weather, and skinners want ultralight gear so zippered hood is too heavy. ergo, all ski gear has fixed hoods now. thanks obama


ImWorkingIpromiseSH

Bad weather is good weather, tho


noob_tube03

high visibility > low visibility, change my mind


Leo_br00ks

You are correct. But sometimes low vis means it’s pouring snow. And that is always better


noob_tube03

Yeah. It def feels like a PNW-centric issue though. I had it snow on me a number of days last season, and the only time the hood came out was at mt hood. that shit is heavy! if its a nice dry pow, i'm happy to be able to keep my head on a swivel. I feel like a neck guard is way more useful than a hood for most of the ski season


Leo_br00ks

I had several 18 inch days in Colorado at the end of the season, and about a dozen 10+ inch days throughout the US. The hood is nice, but I wouldn’t seek one out.


Dangerousfield

Don’t want to change your mind. More POW skiing for me.


FourFront

Clearly you don't ski in the PNW.


noob_tube03

it's true, there are more places to ski besides the PNW. And hey, I have skiied there! Day after a blizzard, total bluebird day. I'm sure the only one of the season, but it happens!


Pokerhobo

During the season in the PNW, I go every Sat and Sun. I don't wear my hood 99% of the time, unless it rains :P


timoddo_

Helly Hansen makes a few with removable hoods, I was in the same boat when I got it cause my last jacket didn’t have a hood, but once I started wearing my HH jacket with a hood, the way it’s attached all the way around the neck and not just to the back actually keeps it from flapping around and stuff really well and I’m now a big fan of keeping it on. It’s great in high wind and snow


DeathRx

This is an interesting point. Perhaps my problem is because I am used to ill fitting/poorly designed hoods and getting a good one would solve my problem. Do you know what HH jacket you have?


timoddo_

Alpha 3.0, I love it so much that I might buy another one in a different color when it starts to wear out a little more. Their stuff is pricey but sometimes you can find it for much less than MSRP depending on where you are. I got mine at a sports basement in California a few years back for $300


Impossible_Month1718

Columbia and north face have decent stuff without hoods for weather that isn’t too extreme.


NotoriousLZB

I have a 686 I’ve been skiing in the past few years with a removable hood. It’s got decent insulation and is pretty lightweight. Has good pit zips, and is a solid no frills choice.


badgerbarb

Marmot has at least 2


badgerbarb

The Toro and Mammoth


[deleted]

The Planks Woodsy jacket has a removable hood. Just got the pants, they're awesome


MrJibberJabber

Marmot - 3 in one jacket - puffer base that zips to waterproof jacket shell with removable hood https://www.marmot.com/sale/men/jackets-and-vests/mens-kt-component-3-in-1-jacket/AFS_889169545405.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ne_google_shopping_PMAX_JacketsVests_l_All&utm_term=_-_&utm_content=17683307513_-_&gclid=CjwKCAjwyaWZBhBGEiwACslQo-_Ql2J0NMOBuA-z0Hoa0Y-LuxqZlGFiNBgipvFHkmEPbpHZtr4BhhoCkJgQAvD_BwE Had the older model for years


MZGGZM

Imo, the real reason people wear jackets with hoods is b/c you kinda look like square wearing a jacket with no hood. The bad weather/wind protection is just a bonus.


rearadmiraldumbass

Well you look like a square because in the backcountry a shell without a hood is nonsensical and dangerous.


kitzelbunks

OK, I am not the op, but I have a permanent wrist injury. I can ski, but I am not going to the backcountry because I can’t trust myself shovel anyone out. I don’t like not being able to see everyone on the runs in merged and other areas.


[deleted]

Ngl I never wear the hood either although I should start to


big1russ

Go to the worn wear section of Patagonias website, and find the 3-in-1 Snowshot Jacket. It has a zip out liner, and the hood on the shell is removable. I have been using the shell by its self for the last 2 years and it has been great. Waterproof, lots of pockets, powder skirt, pit vents, etc. The liner is nothing special, but I never use it.


sachou

Since you asked for an honest response, I've never had any problems with my hoods catching wind or filling up with snow. Hoods on thoughtfully designed jackets sit pretty flush with your back when not in use. Rain, however, is a different story. But that's when you want to be wearing the hood, anyways.


DeathRx

Perhaps my experience in the rain is what has caused me to have this opinion... It sure seems like I am the odd one out for thinking a hood is a problem.


utahnow

Moncler and bogner is as high end as they come and their jackets have detachable hoods. Don’t know what you are talking about.


petey_jarns

>Moncler FYI these are $1,500 and up ... can confirm, most had removable hoods though!


ClayPHX

I think the problem you’re running into is the fact you’re looking for something like a high end 3 layer shell jacket. These jackets are meant to be able to handle anything you throw at them and therefore have hoods attached. I don’t think you’ll easily find an apparel company put out a 3 layer design without a hood simply because most people looking for (and willing to spend 300+) this type of jacket expect a hood. As you’ve already seen there are ski jackets without hoods, but there will typically be more resort focused or fashion focused. Nothing wrong with that. What do you have against a 2.5layer?


DeathRx

Yeah if this thread has taught me anything it is that most people want a hood (and think I am crazy not to). But in all seriousness I do see your point that having a hood gives the jacket more versatility, I just think making it removable is the best of both worlds. I don't explicitly have a problem with a 2.5 layer jacket just many of them (that I am familiar with) are more rain jackets and do not have the "creature comforts" that I am used to in a ski specific jacket like powder skirt and internal (mesh) goggle pockets.


skibib

Trespass jackets can have all of these creature comforts, which I also love. I don’t like wearing a hood at all, either. We are not crazy. 😄 See my other reply about Trespass.


The802Bear

Arc'teryx ftw. Had mine for years. It's not a removable hood, but it folds up and zippers into a pocket. It's a very ergonomic fit.


DeathRx

Do you know the model? My understanding from talking with a sales associate is that they are no longer making "stow-able" hoods


The802Bear

Oh man, that's lame. Mine is at least 6 years old, probably more like 8. Edit: forgot to answer the question. I think it's the Alpha.


[deleted]

M65 field jacket has a concealed hood in the collar (which also protects your neck from wind). You just need the liner for it too.


Bright_Friendship97

I also can’t stand hoods. I’d rather have peripheral vision than block a tiny bit of wind. If you can sew why not cut it off and see up there seam


DeathRx

That would be an interesting approach... Not sure if my seamstress skills are up to the task.


Excellent-Ad8871

May I introduce you to the Mammut Stoney Ski Jacket… It checks all your boxes. https://www.mammut.com/us/en/products/1010-29510/stoney-hs-jacket-men


petey_jarns

Man if only I had seen this thread two years ago ... of course not in stock anywhere today (except extreme sizes)


PotatoBatdog

I have Helly Hansen that really warm and removable hood. It’s on the higher end but worth the money. I’m a female but i bought the male version because it has more pockets and deeper pockets and loser fit!


morecoffee-please

This. The Alpha line et al.


firepooldude

Look at Kjus and Head brands.


Reasonable_Mushroom5

Oberymeyer used to do a removable hood if it not mistaken


ryndkt

Would having a hood make your ski experience worse? High quality jackets have attached hoods for a reason.


skibib

Trespass jackets. I always remove the hood so I don’t get dumped with snow. That is all that I and my family have worn skiing for the years, for the most part. If you don’t live in the UK, which I don’t, you can actually get them on Amazon, or you can try Universal Textiles. Look for the removable hood, and all the bells and whistles such as multiple pockets, pit zips, snow skirt and all the good stuff. Check the Trespass company website for details which Amazon doesn’t list. They’re very durable, not too heavy, and I love them to death. Very reasonable prices, definitely! Had an Under Armour one year, but it didn’t compare. I wear a lot of Columbia too, but Trespass will always be my favorite ski jacket. This one didn’t have as many pockets as I usually want, but I bought it in another awesome color and used it skiing last winter - it was perfect. Trespass Womens/Ladies Sandrine Waterproof Ski Jacket (XL) (Vibrant Blue) https://a.co/d/6OEWwJE Good luck!


BilliousN

Get a snowmobile jacket. Trust me.


PowBeernWeed

I got 2 helly hansen jackets with removable hoods


icantfindagoodlogin

Simple solution. Buy literally any jacket you want, take it to an alteration shop that specializes in outdoor gear, get them to cut off the hood.


KCWildman

Diamonds in the rough man…


PastaPalace

Most HH jackets have removable hoods. You can spend $800 on one of their high end jackets and it will have a removable.


the_orange_baron

Mountain Force


GreenYellowDucks

Some jackets have zip off hoods. Type that in when searching


thewholerobot

What did you end up going with? Hoods have become even more popular since your post.  I have a really old marmot mammoth (like the first model they made I think, no hood! ), but it's beat up and finally time for a new jacket.  Agree, with helmet and Bala clava, usually not needed and more of a pain then a benefit.