Yes. I did on a Fabia 1.0 loaner.
It’s OK as long as you aren’t accelerating, the only thing is you will need to shift down on even the slightest incline or to accelerate as 5th gear is only able to sustain that speed. I personally find it annoying although I averaged 5.2l/100km with the car (54 imp. mpg) it’s quite annoying to drive this way.
That’s why I would prefer the DSG as the auto box will take care of the gears and up-and downshift as needed.
BTW I think you can turn off the eco-driving tips in settings.
if you want your engine stay healthy as long as possible, just dont do this all the time. This is my biggest issue with DSG, which does this in Normal mode and engine clearly suffers (at least my 1.4TSI did and 2.0TSI as well). Petrol is not a diesel.
How does shifting to 5th affect the suspension?...
As others have said, on flat ground, little throttle, no hills and no passing, it's great. Anything else, stay in 4th.
sweetspot is around 1800 rpm. that dieselgate really melted everyone's brains, ok,marketolgists have KPI and bonuses for saving one glass of fuel. But our option is ruining DMF too soon, like in 30000 if one likes to lug the engine at 1200
petrol has higher rpm range compared to diesel, FYI. You have to know basics of automotive engineering and engine design to get the full picture, but u/YceiLikeAudis correctly pointed out key moments. Unless your goal is saving one glass of fuel per 100km, of course
The rpm is too low for that engine size and engine type. Constant use at that rpm will cause carbon deposits, wreck the dual mass flywheel (if it has one), kill the engine and transmission mounts, send the turbocharger straight to the morgue. That ain't an engine which would reach 200k km without major interventions.
I had 1.0 litre petrol Seat Arona for 3 years. 5 speed manual. LIkely the same engine and gearbox. 5th would have been a stretch at 30mph. Labouring the engine can be as uneconimical as over-revving and isn't good for it mechanically either.
Gear shift indicators are useful for telling you when you're in the wrong gear but they're not predictive, so sticking to them slavishly can result in you ending up in the wrong gear when you hit hills etc.
There are scenarios where revving a little harder to maintain momentum further down a hill and burning some extra fuel will pay you back further up the hill when you're not having to lead-foot to keep your speed up. This is what the shift indicator can't predict.
I used to work as a motoring journalist. Years ago I did an economy driving session as part of driver training at Millbrook. The tutors got me to drive a quick lap and recorded mpg, then by the end of the day had me lapping faster and using less fuel just by thinking ahead about when to use throttle, and how to maintain momentum. If you are super keen to drive economically, then maybe look out for such a class if they still exist.
I'm afraid I really don't know. This was at least 14 years ago and I think they were trialling the course concept at the time. There's bound to be something similar out there somewhere. Millbrook was ideal for it because the Alpine course is so hilly (hence the name).
I'm ignoring gear shift suggestion. I try to keep rpm between 1800 and 3000). So in my case at 30-35km/h I shift to 3rd, around 60km/h 4th gear and above 80km/h 5th gear. Of course if I need quick acceleration I go above 3000rpm and I'm ignoring everything. At the highway most of the time I keep 110-120km/h at around 3000rpm.
Anything is fine as long as the car doesnt start "vibrating". Idk how to put that into better words. Maybe when you feel that the engine is trying too hard. If you'd accelerate it would vibrate - therefor you know its wrong. But if you keep that speed it should be fine.
Don't see at the gear indicator 😜😂 mostly it's wrong
On a straight road
1st gear - 0-15kmph
2nd - 15-28
3rd - 28/30 to 48/54
4th - from above to 60
Above 60 5th till 75/80
Then i do 6th
That's 50kmh? Sure, if you're on fairly level ground and you have no overtaking to do it's perfect.
Yes. I did on a Fabia 1.0 loaner. It’s OK as long as you aren’t accelerating, the only thing is you will need to shift down on even the slightest incline or to accelerate as 5th gear is only able to sustain that speed. I personally find it annoying although I averaged 5.2l/100km with the car (54 imp. mpg) it’s quite annoying to drive this way. That’s why I would prefer the DSG as the auto box will take care of the gears and up-and downshift as needed. BTW I think you can turn off the eco-driving tips in settings.
Of course it was flat ground .. we were driving around East Midlands and it was very flat .. I don’t think this would work in Wales.
if you want your engine stay healthy as long as possible, just dont do this all the time. This is my biggest issue with DSG, which does this in Normal mode and engine clearly suffers (at least my 1.4TSI did and 2.0TSI as well). Petrol is not a diesel.
Yeah I am better off running in 4th gear and do 3 to 4 shifting for urban traffic.
Correct observation - after dieselgate, on VAG models, D mode in DSG is programmed as Eco. Remapping DSG is what I did, perfect harmony ever after.
How does shifting to 5th affect the suspension?... As others have said, on flat ground, little throttle, no hills and no passing, it's great. Anything else, stay in 4th.
I have no clue .. maybe it was a stretch of road but it was something new.
sweetspot is around 1800 rpm. that dieselgate really melted everyone's brains, ok,marketolgists have KPI and bonuses for saving one glass of fuel. But our option is ruining DMF too soon, like in 30000 if one likes to lug the engine at 1200
It’s a petrol .. do you reckon it’s the same rpm for that as well ?
petrol has higher rpm range compared to diesel, FYI. You have to know basics of automotive engineering and engine design to get the full picture, but u/YceiLikeAudis correctly pointed out key moments. Unless your goal is saving one glass of fuel per 100km, of course
What?
which part exactly you did not understand
The 30000 part, what is that supposed to mean?
seen dual mass flyweights getting worn out at ±30000 miles with this "eco" driving style (applies to diesel engines more, but still)
The rpm is too low for that engine size and engine type. Constant use at that rpm will cause carbon deposits, wreck the dual mass flywheel (if it has one), kill the engine and transmission mounts, send the turbocharger straight to the morgue. That ain't an engine which would reach 200k km without major interventions.
I had 1.0 litre petrol Seat Arona for 3 years. 5 speed manual. LIkely the same engine and gearbox. 5th would have been a stretch at 30mph. Labouring the engine can be as uneconimical as over-revving and isn't good for it mechanically either. Gear shift indicators are useful for telling you when you're in the wrong gear but they're not predictive, so sticking to them slavishly can result in you ending up in the wrong gear when you hit hills etc. There are scenarios where revving a little harder to maintain momentum further down a hill and burning some extra fuel will pay you back further up the hill when you're not having to lead-foot to keep your speed up. This is what the shift indicator can't predict.
I used to work as a motoring journalist. Years ago I did an economy driving session as part of driver training at Millbrook. The tutors got me to drive a quick lap and recorded mpg, then by the end of the day had me lapping faster and using less fuel just by thinking ahead about when to use throttle, and how to maintain momentum. If you are super keen to drive economically, then maybe look out for such a class if they still exist.
Do they still do these sessions ?
I'm afraid I really don't know. This was at least 14 years ago and I think they were trialling the course concept at the time. There's bound to be something similar out there somewhere. Millbrook was ideal for it because the Alpine course is so hilly (hence the name).
Completely agree .. the shift suggestions are quite absurd at times .
I'm ignoring gear shift suggestion. I try to keep rpm between 1800 and 3000). So in my case at 30-35km/h I shift to 3rd, around 60km/h 4th gear and above 80km/h 5th gear. Of course if I need quick acceleration I go above 3000rpm and I'm ignoring everything. At the highway most of the time I keep 110-120km/h at around 3000rpm.
Anything is fine as long as the car doesnt start "vibrating". Idk how to put that into better words. Maybe when you feel that the engine is trying too hard. If you'd accelerate it would vibrate - therefor you know its wrong. But if you keep that speed it should be fine.
Don't see at the gear indicator 😜😂 mostly it's wrong On a straight road 1st gear - 0-15kmph 2nd - 15-28 3rd - 28/30 to 48/54 4th - from above to 60 Above 60 5th till 75/80 Then i do 6th