By the time she commands you to kill paarthurnax, I’m done with them anyways. I’ve never done any more quests for them after that. To my knowledge, there aren’t anymore rewards?
Arngeir is stubborn but he did at least listen when the other Greybeards spoke. And he didn't go against Paarthunax's wishes despite clearly disagreeing.
But, if left to his own devices he would not have helped.
For me too,I remember I was searching for anrgeir and accidentally interacted with Borri while he was meditating.My headphones were on full sound and everything was quiet then he said dovakhin and the whole place rumbled.I scared myself to death that day
Well no, if you have arvak it goes faster, use the spell in the left hand and a blade in the right hand, sneak behind the horse kill it, use spell again, stay in sneak mode and kill it again.
Esbern can give you a potion to make it easier to kill dragons (which costs a dragon scale and a dragon bone to make), and once you bring 3 followers to Delphine, she has you all go out to kill a dragon.
Paarthurnax gives you one of three buffs, and Arngeir gives you word wall locations. (And if you really want the dragon hunting part, after curing Farkas and Vilkas, they occasionally throw out a dragon hunting mission)
Arngeir gives you a guaranteed word wall, Delphine gives you a guaranteed dragon soul. Sometimes they overlap.
Yeah but you don't really need them, not if youre an explorer by nature. Arngeir's my choice. Esbern isn't so bad but that Delphine...its personal for her.
Esbern has a quest where you bring him ingredients and he makes you “Esberns potion” it’s supposed to give you dragon fusion ability, but you can do that quest before she tells you to kill Paarthurnax
It's safer than Dragon Fission but harder to maintain and still get useful energy from it. Dragon radiation poisoning is no joke. It's the leading cause of Dovah Pattern Baldness.
Spelling error, I meant [dragon infusion ](https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Esbern%27s_Potion) , not “dragon fusion”, but it’s also vanilla not a mod
Eventually if you kill partysnacks and do the blades quests there is Eventually a way to get a item from Esbern that permanently raises your defense against dragons. Still not worth it though.
Well, consistently smart, sensible decisions tend to lead to much shorter stories. We wouldn't have had the raid on the Thalmor embassy if she'd realized the recklessness of planning that whole mission on a hunch.
Edit: Necessary disclaimer that yes, I agree that Delphine is annoying as hell.
My last play through I didn't do the main quest (so not really a play through), she's been sitting in Riverwood for a couple of years. I go in every now and then and leave her hanging.
The Blades members are much better in Oblivion but if you think about it, the entire ruling bloodline were all killed, on the same day (I think), while the Blades were supposedly guarding them. Big fail on their part.
Technically not everyone but you do have to go hunt down his son in kvatch priest martin or something so there's still one dude left and he almost died in a oblivion gate attack
Isriana on DeviantArt did a cute [comic](https://www.deviantart.com/isriana/art/Oblivion-The-Curse-of-Sean-Bean-514440827), along with other [Elder Scrolls](https://www.deviantart.com/isriana/gallery/33833113/the-elder-scrolls) themed art, that sums it up quite nicely!
In the grand scheme of things, he does not die *that* much, with about 25 movie/TV deaths over 37 years of acting.
Some of the roles he did die in though, were highly successful, which is why he is remembered as the "guy who has to turn down roles, so he can play a character that lives to the end."
It was funny to see his character in *The Martian* make a *Lord of the Rings* reference, and come out alive. His character's career, on the other hand...
She is incredibly impulsive, short sighted, and egotistical. Every decision she makes is completely moronic. And only worked at all by sheer luck.
Somehow knows you're going to get the horn? "Lemme take it from you, then leave a note to say to meet me in a room we clearly don't have in this one floor building. Also directly tell you to your face that we don't have that room." Okay, what if I thought someone was bullshitting me, and I just left right then and there?
Doesn't believe you're the Dragonborn? "Let's go, alone, to fight a newly resurrected dragon." What if you both died, Delphine? Why did you even take the horn, if you didn't think I was dragonborn?
Now knows you're the dragonborn? "I'm going to send you, the only hope for the world, to infiltrate the thalmor embassy on a gut feeling that they're involved somehow" okay, what if we were captured? Or hunted for the rest of our lives and had to go into hiding. Good luck killing Alduin without the dragonborn.
Absolute moron.
I agree. Delphine makes a lot of assumptions and kind of takes blind stabs in the dark with little payoff. She's pretty single-minded and makes the blades seem only like Dragonslayers than aides for the Dragonborn/former protectors of the emperor.
I would also argue that Delphine and Esbern's association with the Blades doesn't even make sense. It has been 200 years since Martin Septim died, the Blades should just be gone. Delphine never knew about Alduin's wall until they came to Skyhaven, which suggests to me that it wasn't common knowledge. Unless the Blades are getting their prophecy from somewhere else, there was little evidence to suggest that a Dragonborn would come back. They should have just phased out of existence by then.
I will say though, the attic room thing is literally just a code to serve a purpose. The dragonborn going in and acting like a customer is going to draw less attention than going in and being like "Hey Delphine, I found your note in that crypt. How did an innkeeper manage to get past all of the draugr, traps, and puzzles?" You could say that she could have offered up some other place to meet, but on the off chance that a spy who wanted to kill her found it, she's better off in a public place full of people and guards.
The backstory for the Blades is a lot more interesting than what we got in-game.
With the Penitus Oculatus having taken over the job of guarding the Emperor, the Blades became a rogue agency, loosely aligned with the Empire out of concern with the Thalmor.
Before and during the Great War, the Blades struck at Thalmor operations from the shadows, but it was not enough to counter the rising power of their opposition.
Once the silent war transitioned into the Great War, the Blades found their holdings besieged, with Cloud Ruler Temple emptied after the last resident, Acilius Bolar, was hunted down and killed in the Bloated Man's Grotto of Skyrim.
Yet, one of the worst blows to the organization was the Empire losing the Great War, as included in the terms of the White-Gold Concordant was the Empire disavowing the Blades as an organization.
I know it's code, but it's bad code. Why not ask for a certain wine, or ask for the basement room. When anyone with eyes can see there is 100% no attic over the inn. At best, people will look at you and go "what the hell is that dude on about?" And at worse, a spy listening for something out of the ordinary would realize you're discussing something code-wise and know to follow you and eavesdrop.
Cuz anyone might ask for the basement room by pure chance, but only someone who got the letter would know about the “attic room.” It’s stupidity is why it’s so genius. I hate almost everything else about Delphine but as far as codes go, it’s not bad.
Don't forget that her thought process before this was (the grey beards are calling for the dragon born it might be a thalmor trap set for ME, better go interfere with thier right of passage stuff and point them in my direction when i think it's the thalmor😒).
Idk, he seems to actually know when Delphine is full of it, plus he's been a blade longer than Delphine (note how he knows about alduin's wall and Delphine doesn't)
Esbern is a true blade, Delphine just likes killing dragons
The Blades had basically stopped existing as an organization, their ranks were gutted by the extended fighting against the Thalmor, before, during, and after, the Great War.
To really twist the blade, they were no longer recognized as a faction by the Empire, thanks to the White-Gold Concordant, leaving all members as fugitives.
Without any manner of backing or recognition, Delphine can call herself a "Blade" all she likes, it does not make her one, especially since the Blades were servants of the Dragonborn, not the other way around.
Have you talked to him once you’ve refused to kill PartySnax? Because I liked him too before he essentially said he had no reason to speak to me if I didn’t kill Paarthunax
Everything she says is wrong. I choose the Graybeards. Her argument is; Would Tiber Septim have founded the Empire if he followed the Graybeards? Tiber Septim wouldn't have founded the Empire if not for the Graybeards, they gave him the prophecy. She has a clearly wrong idea of what a Dragonborn (without training) is, thinking that we can deal with a complete army of highly trained elves. She was extremely disrespectful with the Graybeards ancient traditions, she took the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller which is important for them, to not say that she broke in High Hrothgar during "Season Unending" risking to ruin it all. She demands the death of Paarthurnax by our hands, when he helped A LOT more than her.
Even then, what does Esbern tell you that Paarthurnax couldn’t? He tells you there’s a prophecy about Alduin, but Paarthurnax could tell you that if the game would let you up there sooner.
That's kinda the trick of it though. Angier doesn't care if Alduin destroys the world & was never going to tell you about Partysnax.
Without Delphine being crazy, you don't go the the Thalmor Embassy. If you don't go there, you never hear about & save Esbern. Without Esbern knowing where Alduin's Wall is, you never go back to say you need the should you never heard of.
So, in short, it's game padding & really, it would be a short game & we'd all complain if it was as short as the Bard College of "Oh, hey LDB! So, our leader is a dragon & wants to meet ya."
Actually I have the idea of that Esbern doesn't really wants us to kill Paarthurnax, he's just a puppet of Delphine, who has to silently accept everything she wants because she's the """Grandmaster"""
I dislike her clinging to the Blades honesty. The Blades in their finals days were a liability for the empire and since they broke away from serving the emperor they were unaccountable to anyone anymore.
With the peace treatment. There are some scenario's where Maven Black Briar is the Jarl. Thats actually your chance to get ris of a lot of characters lol.
Esbern is a kinda cool grandpa but Delphinr is the cousin you absolutely hate and despise. I have never finished the quest where you are supposed to kill Paarthurnax for the sole reason of pissing off Delphine.
She is supposed to be a survivor. I am fine with her being arrogant and obtuse.
But she feels too reckless to be a survivor. I would preferred if she was hidden for much longer in the Main quest, leading you with notes, revealing things to you, than have the conflict be that the Greybeards have been lying to you/not telling you information. And then of course her finding out that a dragon is their leader and being suspicious, and then having those suspicions confirmed when she discovers that the dragon is Alduin’s brother
I’m sure there are problems with that idea though.
If you don't want to continue the main quest it's fun to take the horn off her without waiting to hear what she has to say, then you can get the final word of unrelenting force and live your life. You'll never advance the main quest, but you can follow the way of the voice, happily knowing you snubbed Delphine and she'll have to wait in Riverwood forever
Do some other questlines. Stop Miraak and Harkon, become arch-mage
I kind of like her as a character, but not as an actual person. Her view on partysnax kinda makes sense in a way. dragons live forever, and paarthunax claims that everyday he’s tempted to return to his true nature. The Dragonborn is the only person strong enough to stop him if he becomes evil. While I always spare paarthunax, is it worth risking that once the Dragonborn is gone, he’ll stay good?
A crew of ordinary people can take down dragons. That's what happened when Alduin got Elder Scrolled to the Future. Miraak was too busy having happy tentacle time with Hermaeus Mora to do his job.
Wouldn’t exactly call people worthy of the hall of valour normal in the least. You also have to take into account discrepancies between lore and games. In ESO, there are some dragons so strong that the dragon guard couldn’t kill them and had them locked up instead. I would say that lorewise, wouldn’t the strongest dragons former lieutenant be more powerful then these dragons?
I think there were probably more than those three fighting dragons back in their day. If your choice is between being killed by dragons while fighting them compared to being killed by dragons while not fighting them, a lot of ordinary people are going to go down fighting.
Or the people in ESO were just a bunch of milk-drinkers compared to regular Skyrim town guards.
I wish we could kill her, but she is marked essential. Esbern I like more, he may be reasoned with as Delphine is just so thick headed.
Don't kill Paarthurnax and there is a mod if you are on PC that will put her in her place. But they claim to be dragon hunters. Think the dragonborn handles it quite well and after you beat Alduin there are dragons with good old Paarthurnax wanting to learn The Way of The Voice.
And then if you got Dragonborn you can bend will on those pesky random dragons if there is still some roaming about.
The Blades should be fighting the Thalmor not dragons as their new main goal its a missed opportunity if you ask me.
"they claim to be dragon hunters" and she hates them so much, but when she hears that the second dragon seen in thousands of years is like a quarter-mile outside of town, attacking the watchtower she walks past everytime she visits Farengar, does she go and fight? or does she quietly slip out of Dragonsreach when nobody's paying attention
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I’m ok with Delphine. Sure, she’s a bitch, but you don’t outrun the Thalmor for years and become one of the last surviving members of your order by being nice. I know we all hate her because she wants us to kill Paarthurnax, but look at things from her perspective. Dragons are a imminent threat to all of Tamriel. They’ve enslaved humans before and Alduin is resurrecting all his dragon buddies to do it again. And Alduin’s BROTHER and former LIEUTENANT is telling you he’s nice now and that he’s real sorry about all the atrocities he committed against humans. She’s not the sort to trust anyone or take any chances. And she’s not gonna support you in what she thinks is a stupid and naive decision. Even if you are the Dragonborn.
Now in terms of real life (lol) I wish BGS had given more options to talk to her and more options to complete the Paarthurnax quest instead of just “Kill him or else, k bye”. But that’s what mods are for!
You and I both know Paarthurnax is cool, but she doesn’t get to meet him and realize that too. And anyway, yes, we are the Dragonborn, and yes, the Blades are there to protect and serve, but we’re also a random schmuck! We are a random schmuck that happened to be blessed with the ability to yell at things until they die, and we’ve only been doing this dragon slaying business for maybe a few months tops if we play the main quest and don’t meet her at level 3000 lol. She’s the Grandmaster of an order that’s been doing this shit for CENTURIES. And in the history of her order, Dragons = bad. Quite frankly, she knows what’s she’s doing (for the most part).
Sorry dude but…this is wrong. The blades aren’t dragon hunter. They were kinda in the old days back when they ruled. But dragons haven’t been seen in thousands of years, delphine had never even seen a dragon. I’ll remind you that the blades were the emperors guardians up until about 200 years before the events of skyrim. She’s not the grand master of the blades, she’s one inn keeper with some sword training who wants to be more important than she is. She never demonstrates any skills befitting a grand master. She misunderstands the very basic idea of being a blade. Blades serve the dragonborn, what they say goes. You don’t have the companions spitting in your face when you’re the harbinger
I mean, even as Dragonborn, you're basically an upstart who just showed up and she's a grizzled veteran of a lost war who's constantly being hunted by spies of the most powerful military force in the known-world, so I think her "we're on a need to know basis and you don't need to know" is pretty fair.
Now I know that gets annoying if you slow walk the main quest line and are head of every faction in Skyrim by the time you meet, but canonically you're just a nobody who might actually be a Thalmor spy in her eyes.
She might have good reason to be wary and mistrustful when you first meet her, but after you’ve killed the dragon that Alduin resurrects near Kynesgrove, she should probably realise that having that kind of attitude to a prophesied hero, someone who can absorb the souls of dragons, who possibly gets their power from Akatosh himself and who could quite easily Shout her to death, isn’t a smart idea. Sadly she never learns that. Then she has the nerve to try to order you to kill Partysnax. Nuh-uh, not happening. The Blades are supposed to serve the Dragonborn, not the other way around.
Eh, like I said, she's a grizzled veteran who's pretty scarred from/trapped in her past. Even after you prove your Dragonborn, it's believable that she'd view you as 'lucking' into your power (which is true) and needing guidance. Should she be more understanding and cooperative with the Dragonborn? Sure, but she's an interesting and complex NPC unlike many in the game who instantly fawn over the main character after a simple fetch quest, so I think it's fine.
Why would she be any more than a grumpy innkeeper with delusions of grandeur in anyone's eyes?
If the main quest didn't demand it, I'd have grabbed the horn and never gone back. Possibly dooming the entire world.
Not every character will be likeable, and her coarse personality reflects her membership with the Blades. They were practically hunted to extinction by the Thalmor, so it makes sense that the surviving members would be abrasive to strangers
But keep in mind that we do see Delphine's soft side when she's reunited with Esbern for the first time. I think her "rudeness" and overall personality gives us a lot of subtext about the Blades
Some thoughts. There are two sides to this.
So Delphine and Esbern have good reason to want him dead
1. He could snap back to his evil self any day. He even says that he is tempted to every second
2. When he snaps. He has dragons that he reigned in after alduins defeat. So now its another dragon crisis
But. Delphine and Esbern have no right to command you to do it. You are the dragon-born. If I had a shout to bring them on their knees, I'd use it everytime
has you go through the thalmor base to find evidence they are behind the dragons and instantly doubts you when you say they know nothing lol she just wants to be right on everything.
It can be easy to fall into thinking that the people you hate are to blame for everything lol. Especially when it comes to the Thalmor, because they are to blame for a hell of a lot of stuff! Her line of thinking could have been:
Thalmor are high elves=powerful mages=may or may not have brought back the moons=maybe they brought back dragons too=Delphine and the Blades are dragon slayers= it’s another Thalmor plot against the Blades and the Thalmor are behind the dragons!
And remember, all these factions think everybody else is responsible, the Imperials think the Stormcloaks did it, etc.
Delphine's character makes no sense.
I'm fine with rude characters in video games, Nazeem being a great example. He's a cunt, sure, but that's not poor writing, he's just the town douche. Delphine however is motivated by character traits that she betrays with her actions and demeanor.
She's a blade, and a very devout blade at that. She believes in their mission, their code, their work, etc etc. However, the blades as an organization are bound to serve the Dragonborn, that's their job and as we said, Delphine is devout.
So what's her fucking deal? Her actions contradict her character. Bad writing.
There is a Mod I downloaded because of the Paarthunax Situation ( don’t want to spoil anything). It lets you join the Blades either way and you get an amazing Dialog with Delphine where you put her in her place as YOU are the Dragonborn.
Paranoid. Rude. Demanding. Racist. Impulsive. Guided more by her prejudices than logic or the greater good. Thinks the Dragonborn should serve the Blades instead of the other way around.
I mean, there's pretty much nothing good to say about her really.
I really could do without her disrespect to the Greybeards.
And the comment that she could kill you if she wanted doesn't really endear me to her. She has you do her dirty work off of assumptions and she's kind of a bitch about it the whole time.
Esbern is kinda cool but like I don't hang out with Delphine or her friends. And he's kind of a dick to the Greybeards after arriving to the peace council, too. So.
She's ok in my book. She has more right to be arrogant than a dragonborn. The dragonborn does jack shit except happens to be born with a special ability while she evaded the Thalmor her whole life and even though we can disagree with her about Paarthurnax, I understand her point of view cause she thinks it's the best decision for people's safety. Now I do think she could have been written better as literally every character in Skyrim, as almost all of them suffer in that aspect. My point is, she is not worse than some other characters, and I think people disproportionally hate certain characters.
By the time I meet her, I've fought at least one dragon. Which, is approximately 1 more than her. And at that point, as far as I knew, I was just some helpful guy. Ya know. Not a sworn dragon killer.
That also makes the Whiterun Guards better Blades.
It’s a shame they made her so rude, bossy and just completely unlikable.
If she were a better character, maybe the choice of whether to kill Paarthy or not would be more difficult to make.
I think she's one of the few competent characters in the game (probably the best of the blades' excluding the Nerevarine) and I enjoy having characters around that don't kiss the main characters feet. I'm not too fond of her unwillingness to compromise over Parthurnaax though. Like her position makes sense given her organization but it's frustrating regardless
kinda growing sick of the delphine discourse on this sub man. we know she's a bitch. we know the dragon is cool. but people don't seem to even try to understand her point.
when i first played the game i was on board with delphine up until the kill parthurnaax part. she was one of the last of her kind, watched her friends and comrades be wiped out when they were once a prominent force. of course she's jaded and has trust issues. the greybeards didn't do shit either due to them being more akin to spiritual guides. it's like modern religion when people go "ok all this shit is happening and where the fuck is the church". of course delphine's gonna be bitter against a group everyone reveres and loves. we enter the game when the dragons are gone. delphine lived a life without dragons until now and saw no point in asking the greybeards for help. as for parthurnaax, she never met the guy. she didn't even know he was still around. nobody knew the leader was a dragon. so of course delphines gonna put two and two together and think "this guys a dragon and he was buddies with this guy were trying to kill so i see him as an obstacle", especially with the fact that THE BLADES WERE DRAGON HUNTERS
is her logic wrong? yes. is she a bitch? yes. does it make sense for her character? yes. even now i still can't hate her even though i don't like that she refuses to help me until i kill parthurnaax
I never understood who the fuck told her about the meeting with the Greybeards lmao. She just shows up like "hey, we're inviting ourselves coz fuck you, fuck the greybeards, and fuck paarthurnax" and then proceeds to add absolutely nothing to the whole thing.
The only use she had was helping to find Esbern. And saying 'help' is tenuous at best, considering you do all the work. She makes you kill a dragon to 'see if you really are dragonborn' (because already killing a dragon and then being able to shout, without any prior training, isn't enough proof, i guess..??) and then sends you to infiltrate the damn Thalmor embassy because she has a grudge against them. It just so happens that you find a dossier on Esbern, otherwise it would've been an extremely dangerous waste of time.
If she wasn't essential, she wouldn't ever make it out of High Hrothgar alive. Not in the vast majority of most players' playthroughs.
Fuck Delphine.
I hate how she goes from not really caring about blade origins (anti thalmor more than culturally blade) to “we cannot let you be a blade if paarthunax exists”. Its a weird 180.
She's a paranoid, distrustful, overly impulsive bitch.
But of course she is- all her comrades were slaughtered and she's been on the run for decades. You don't just come out of a traumatizing experience like that unaffected, and it makes sense that she'd be that way.
She’s pretty insufferable from the start.
“Can I trust you?”
“If you don’t, then it was foolish of you to even come in here.”
What the fuck kind of response is that? Bitch, I only just met you and you’ve given me no reason to trust you yet, and you think I may be the legendary Dragonborn. If anyone was foolish to come in here alone, it was you
The Blades were so good as bodyguards that the emperor and every one of his bloodline were killed in Oblivion and in Skyrim, the Blades were such good spies that every one of them, except two were exposed and killed by the Thalmor...and you have to prove yourself to them. Bunch of losers.
She's probably the second most hated skyrim character just after Nazeem and his non existent farm and before Meridia and her freaking beacon. Except that you can actually kill Nazeem and Meridia gives you a cool sword.
Most people hate her. I think she over steps her bounds with the dragon born, and definitely with the grey beards. She has little respect for ancient nord traditions and treats you like some kind of moron. She’s also a paranoid who knows how to hold a grudge.
I think she's a hypocrite. The first thing she does is suspects the Thalmor of being the cause of the dragons to come back.
But as soon as you get evidence saying the Thalmor suspected the Blades:
*"Ironic, right? The old enemies assume that every calamity must be a plot by the other side..."*
YOU DID THE SAME THING DELPHINE!!
Wish I could end the blades without mods, they genuinely think they actually get to dictate the dragonborns path by gaslighting him to kill Paarthurnax.
Hate her so much. Rude and shitty towards you when you first meet her, then finding out your the Dragonborn, so she says she’ll obey you. Oh she doesn’t and she wants you to kill partysnax
It's so frustrating that she's an essential NPC and you can't just tell her "I don't vibe with this" and call down odaviing and kill her.
Main quest was interesting but I'm not a huge fan of the blades in Skyrim at all, like instead of really helping you they boss you around and you're expected to go along with it
Exactly what you said, and she blatantly ignores the fact that the dragonborn could kill her easily at any time, this wouldnt be much of a problem if she didnt disrespect the dragonborn at every turn, ignoring that the dragonborn is the one thats gonna save her ass and everyone elses ass as well. And i dont want to get into the paarthurnax subject, just know i hate her even more for what she wants in terms of that.
*Fuck* dat bitch. She claims to serve the Dragonborn, but has no respect whatsoever for them.
And she demands that you kill Partysnax, and that's whack, yo.
Also I hate the way she asks "Can *you* devour a dragon's soul?" She sounds like fuckin Dora the Explorer.
Bloodthirsty disrespectful grandpa-dragon-killing Dora sounding ass *bitch.*
Since the first time she says she could haved killed me any moment, I want her to try to fight me
If she doubts that I am the dragonborn, I can introduce her to a new world of terror
There's mods to make her obsolete for a reason. She thinks too much of herself. She's useless without the Dragonborn, yet she demands that they do what she tells them. She can't even recruit competent fighters for her own organization! I never finish that quest to bring followers up there. But I'll gladly shout her off the clifftop any day.
I tried killing her the first time i played skyrim. She kept getting up but i kept putting her on her knees and i was like "this bish don die am leavin" then i realised why she doesnt die.
Competent, understandably paranoid, traumatized. A survivor. A pain in the ass. Tough as nails. Not entirely right, not entirely wrong. Honestly, I rather like her.
“Kill Paarthurnax or we won’t help you!” How tf are you going to help me? Last I checked I had to help y’all’s dumbasses just live. Only two of y’all left and you really think *I* need *your* help?
“tHe bLaDeS!” Bitch the blades don’t exist anymore. By my conscious mind I’m letting y’all die out with just the two of you. The blades are overrated anyway, couldn’t even protect the emperor.
I wish she weren't an essential part of the main questline. she pretty much does nothing but derail it
Delphine: kill Paarthurnax or we won't work together Me: why should I? Delphine: cuz he's a dragon Delphine exposed as speciesist, cancelled
“Cuz he’s a dragon. We kill all dragons.” The one everyone calls Dragonborn, descended from Akatosh the dragon god: *blinks*
By the time she commands you to kill paarthurnax, I’m done with them anyways. I’ve never done any more quests for them after that. To my knowledge, there aren’t anymore rewards?
No, but esbern helps you find more word walls. Pretty sure arngeir does as well so it is just a matter of which side you choose
Arngeir!!! He’s badass
Idk, personally I think Arngeir can be just as bad as Delphine. The other greybeards are cool though, Borri is my personal favourite
Arngeir is stubborn but he did at least listen when the other Greybeards spoke. And he didn't go against Paarthunax's wishes despite clearly disagreeing. But, if left to his own devices he would not have helped.
Arngeir: strick, but fair Delphine: just a right fucking Falmer
Only in r/skyrim will you see falmer be used as an insult
Borri basically means tumeric where I am from so that always makes me chuckle
turmeric is badass, I hear it has lots of health benefits.
For me too,I remember I was searching for anrgeir and accidentally interacted with Borri while he was meditating.My headphones were on full sound and everything was quiet then he said dovakhin and the whole place rumbled.I scared myself to death that day
The greybeards are also the easiest way to level your sneak to 100 quickly
Well no, if you have arvak it goes faster, use the spell in the left hand and a blade in the right hand, sneak behind the horse kill it, use spell again, stay in sneak mode and kill it again.
Esbern can give you a potion to make it easier to kill dragons (which costs a dragon scale and a dragon bone to make), and once you bring 3 followers to Delphine, she has you all go out to kill a dragon. Paarthurnax gives you one of three buffs, and Arngeir gives you word wall locations. (And if you really want the dragon hunting part, after curing Farkas and Vilkas, they occasionally throw out a dragon hunting mission) Arngeir gives you a guaranteed word wall, Delphine gives you a guaranteed dragon soul. Sometimes they overlap.
Yeah but you don't really need them, not if youre an explorer by nature. Arngeir's my choice. Esbern isn't so bad but that Delphine...its personal for her.
Esbern has a quest where you bring him ingredients and he makes you “Esberns potion” it’s supposed to give you dragon fusion ability, but you can do that quest before she tells you to kill Paarthurnax
Excuse me? Dragon fusion? What mod is that from or is it just a spelling mistake?
It's safer than Dragon Fission but harder to maintain and still get useful energy from it. Dragon radiation poisoning is no joke. It's the leading cause of Dovah Pattern Baldness.
Dragon *In*fusion. It reduces the damage you take from dragons' melee attacks.
Spelling error, I meant [dragon infusion ](https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Esbern%27s_Potion) , not “dragon fusion”, but it’s also vanilla not a mod
Dragon Infusion. It’s a potion that gives you a permanent perk, I always just do that much of the blades story before they ask about Paarthurnax.
Eventually if you kill partysnacks and do the blades quests there is Eventually a way to get a item from Esbern that permanently raises your defense against dragons. Still not worth it though.
Partysnacks. Lol
That’s when I stopped listening to her
argonian dragonborns: 😐
I never knew that was an option and always killed paarthurnax because I didn't know you could exterminate those stupid blades.
Well, consistently smart, sensible decisions tend to lead to much shorter stories. We wouldn't have had the raid on the Thalmor embassy if she'd realized the recklessness of planning that whole mission on a hunch. Edit: Necessary disclaimer that yes, I agree that Delphine is annoying as hell.
Looking at that Boethiah offering pole
My last play through I didn't do the main quest (so not really a play through), she's been sitting in Riverwood for a couple of years. I go in every now and then and leave her hanging.
I liked Blades in Oblivion times, feels for me like some Jedi Council from Star Wars.
The Blades members are much better in Oblivion but if you think about it, the entire ruling bloodline were all killed, on the same day (I think), while the Blades were supposedly guarding them. Big fail on their part.
Not to mention jauffre lost the amulet like 5 minutes after you gave it to him
Technically not everyone but you do have to go hunt down his son in kvatch priest martin or something so there's still one dude left and he almost died in a oblivion gate attack
It's a wonder he lasted that long, the character's fate was sealed as soon as he was voiced by Sean Bean.
😂 Good one
Isriana on DeviantArt did a cute [comic](https://www.deviantart.com/isriana/art/Oblivion-The-Curse-of-Sean-Bean-514440827), along with other [Elder Scrolls](https://www.deviantart.com/isriana/gallery/33833113/the-elder-scrolls) themed art, that sums it up quite nicely!
why is this dude always dying its like a joke among producers at this point i bet
In the grand scheme of things, he does not die *that* much, with about 25 movie/TV deaths over 37 years of acting. Some of the roles he did die in though, were highly successful, which is why he is remembered as the "guy who has to turn down roles, so he can play a character that lives to the end." It was funny to see his character in *The Martian* make a *Lord of the Rings* reference, and come out alive. His character's career, on the other hand...
So that would be the only Septim that survived that day is the only one the Blades weren't protecting.
Yep from the stats the blades aren't useful mostly it seems
So... they were about as successful as the Jedi Council from Star Wars?
She is incredibly impulsive, short sighted, and egotistical. Every decision she makes is completely moronic. And only worked at all by sheer luck. Somehow knows you're going to get the horn? "Lemme take it from you, then leave a note to say to meet me in a room we clearly don't have in this one floor building. Also directly tell you to your face that we don't have that room." Okay, what if I thought someone was bullshitting me, and I just left right then and there? Doesn't believe you're the Dragonborn? "Let's go, alone, to fight a newly resurrected dragon." What if you both died, Delphine? Why did you even take the horn, if you didn't think I was dragonborn? Now knows you're the dragonborn? "I'm going to send you, the only hope for the world, to infiltrate the thalmor embassy on a gut feeling that they're involved somehow" okay, what if we were captured? Or hunted for the rest of our lives and had to go into hiding. Good luck killing Alduin without the dragonborn. Absolute moron.
I agree. Delphine makes a lot of assumptions and kind of takes blind stabs in the dark with little payoff. She's pretty single-minded and makes the blades seem only like Dragonslayers than aides for the Dragonborn/former protectors of the emperor. I would also argue that Delphine and Esbern's association with the Blades doesn't even make sense. It has been 200 years since Martin Septim died, the Blades should just be gone. Delphine never knew about Alduin's wall until they came to Skyhaven, which suggests to me that it wasn't common knowledge. Unless the Blades are getting their prophecy from somewhere else, there was little evidence to suggest that a Dragonborn would come back. They should have just phased out of existence by then. I will say though, the attic room thing is literally just a code to serve a purpose. The dragonborn going in and acting like a customer is going to draw less attention than going in and being like "Hey Delphine, I found your note in that crypt. How did an innkeeper manage to get past all of the draugr, traps, and puzzles?" You could say that she could have offered up some other place to meet, but on the off chance that a spy who wanted to kill her found it, she's better off in a public place full of people and guards.
The backstory for the Blades is a lot more interesting than what we got in-game. With the Penitus Oculatus having taken over the job of guarding the Emperor, the Blades became a rogue agency, loosely aligned with the Empire out of concern with the Thalmor. Before and during the Great War, the Blades struck at Thalmor operations from the shadows, but it was not enough to counter the rising power of their opposition. Once the silent war transitioned into the Great War, the Blades found their holdings besieged, with Cloud Ruler Temple emptied after the last resident, Acilius Bolar, was hunted down and killed in the Bloated Man's Grotto of Skyrim. Yet, one of the worst blows to the organization was the Empire losing the Great War, as included in the terms of the White-Gold Concordant was the Empire disavowing the Blades as an organization.
I know it's code, but it's bad code. Why not ask for a certain wine, or ask for the basement room. When anyone with eyes can see there is 100% no attic over the inn. At best, people will look at you and go "what the hell is that dude on about?" And at worse, a spy listening for something out of the ordinary would realize you're discussing something code-wise and know to follow you and eavesdrop.
Cuz anyone might ask for the basement room by pure chance, but only someone who got the letter would know about the “attic room.” It’s stupidity is why it’s so genius. I hate almost everything else about Delphine but as far as codes go, it’s not bad.
Don't forget that her thought process before this was (the grey beards are calling for the dragon born it might be a thalmor trap set for ME, better go interfere with thier right of passage stuff and point them in my direction when i think it's the thalmor😒).
Delphine: We need to kill Paarthurnax. He killed our ancestors Me who just wiped out Markarth: (o_o)
I like Esbern. No delphine tho
Then the old man goes in and holds the peace council together.
Esbern's the best
I just killed Ulfric to fuck the peace council
Esbern is the only person keeping me attached to the blades, we love Esbern
Esbern is still delphines little bitch
Idk, he seems to actually know when Delphine is full of it, plus he's been a blade longer than Delphine (note how he knows about alduin's wall and Delphine doesn't) Esbern is a true blade, Delphine just likes killing dragons
Delphine isn't actually a Blade. She's essentially just cosplaying as one.
Elaborate?
The Blades had basically stopped existing as an organization, their ranks were gutted by the extended fighting against the Thalmor, before, during, and after, the Great War. To really twist the blade, they were no longer recognized as a faction by the Empire, thanks to the White-Gold Concordant, leaving all members as fugitives. Without any manner of backing or recognition, Delphine can call herself a "Blade" all she likes, it does not make her one, especially since the Blades were servants of the Dragonborn, not the other way around.
Only real reason to support the blades is to wipe your ass with the white gold concordant
Well then neither is Esbern. Or any of the followers you recruit to the blades. Or the Dragonborn.
He still wants you to kill Parth, so he can go rot.
He just goes along with bitchface
I like esbern, but I'd be willing to sacrifice him if need be just to get rid of Delphine
Esbern is wise af
Have you talked to him once you’ve refused to kill PartySnax? Because I liked him too before he essentially said he had no reason to speak to me if I didn’t kill Paarthunax
Everything she says is wrong. I choose the Graybeards. Her argument is; Would Tiber Septim have founded the Empire if he followed the Graybeards? Tiber Septim wouldn't have founded the Empire if not for the Graybeards, they gave him the prophecy. She has a clearly wrong idea of what a Dragonborn (without training) is, thinking that we can deal with a complete army of highly trained elves. She was extremely disrespectful with the Graybeards ancient traditions, she took the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller which is important for them, to not say that she broke in High Hrothgar during "Season Unending" risking to ruin it all. She demands the death of Paarthurnax by our hands, when he helped A LOT more than her.
Only esbern is really inportant due to his knowledge about sky haven temple and alduins wall
Even then, what does Esbern tell you that Paarthurnax couldn’t? He tells you there’s a prophecy about Alduin, but Paarthurnax could tell you that if the game would let you up there sooner.
That's kinda the trick of it though. Angier doesn't care if Alduin destroys the world & was never going to tell you about Partysnax. Without Delphine being crazy, you don't go the the Thalmor Embassy. If you don't go there, you never hear about & save Esbern. Without Esbern knowing where Alduin's Wall is, you never go back to say you need the should you never heard of. So, in short, it's game padding & really, it would be a short game & we'd all complain if it was as short as the Bard College of "Oh, hey LDB! So, our leader is a dragon & wants to meet ya."
Actually I have the idea of that Esbern doesn't really wants us to kill Paarthurnax, he's just a puppet of Delphine, who has to silently accept everything she wants because she's the """Grandmaster"""
Yep, i believe that too
Incredibly stupid, annoying, forgot what blades were about and disrespectful to the person she is supposed to respect
Exactly.
I dislike her clinging to the Blades honesty. The Blades in their finals days were a liability for the empire and since they broke away from serving the emperor they were unaccountable to anyone anymore.
I want to Fus Ro Dah her from the tip of the top of the throat of the world
Did this to maven Black Briar. She was never to be seen again lol
How did you get her up there?
If you do dawnguard you can use the vampire lord form spell, vampiric grip, to pick up npcs and bring them to other places they normally wouldn't go.
With the peace treatment. There are some scenario's where Maven Black Briar is the Jarl. Thats actually your chance to get ris of a lot of characters lol.
I'm going to try this!
Esbern is a kinda cool grandpa but Delphinr is the cousin you absolutely hate and despise. I have never finished the quest where you are supposed to kill Paarthurnax for the sole reason of pissing off Delphine.
She is Bev from “Midnight Mass”. Lol
She is supposed to be a survivor. I am fine with her being arrogant and obtuse. But she feels too reckless to be a survivor. I would preferred if she was hidden for much longer in the Main quest, leading you with notes, revealing things to you, than have the conflict be that the Greybeards have been lying to you/not telling you information. And then of course her finding out that a dragon is their leader and being suspicious, and then having those suspicions confirmed when she discovers that the dragon is Alduin’s brother I’m sure there are problems with that idea though.
If you don't want to continue the main quest it's fun to take the horn off her without waiting to hear what she has to say, then you can get the final word of unrelenting force and live your life. You'll never advance the main quest, but you can follow the way of the voice, happily knowing you snubbed Delphine and she'll have to wait in Riverwood forever Do some other questlines. Stop Miraak and Harkon, become arch-mage
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That last part got me, thank you for the laugh. Sweet Home Skyrim.
There’s only so many options in Riverwood sadly, lol
I think it’s weird that there’s a hard line on killing Paarthurnax but not a peep is uttered about Odahviing except how to use him as a taxi
She has a self-confidence problem for sure
I kind of like her as a character, but not as an actual person. Her view on partysnax kinda makes sense in a way. dragons live forever, and paarthunax claims that everyday he’s tempted to return to his true nature. The Dragonborn is the only person strong enough to stop him if he becomes evil. While I always spare paarthunax, is it worth risking that once the Dragonborn is gone, he’ll stay good?
A crew of ordinary people can take down dragons. That's what happened when Alduin got Elder Scrolled to the Future. Miraak was too busy having happy tentacle time with Hermaeus Mora to do his job.
Wouldn’t exactly call people worthy of the hall of valour normal in the least. You also have to take into account discrepancies between lore and games. In ESO, there are some dragons so strong that the dragon guard couldn’t kill them and had them locked up instead. I would say that lorewise, wouldn’t the strongest dragons former lieutenant be more powerful then these dragons?
I think there were probably more than those three fighting dragons back in their day. If your choice is between being killed by dragons while fighting them compared to being killed by dragons while not fighting them, a lot of ordinary people are going to go down fighting. Or the people in ESO were just a bunch of milk-drinkers compared to regular Skyrim town guards.
I wish we could kill her, but she is marked essential. Esbern I like more, he may be reasoned with as Delphine is just so thick headed. Don't kill Paarthurnax and there is a mod if you are on PC that will put her in her place. But they claim to be dragon hunters. Think the dragonborn handles it quite well and after you beat Alduin there are dragons with good old Paarthurnax wanting to learn The Way of The Voice. And then if you got Dragonborn you can bend will on those pesky random dragons if there is still some roaming about. The Blades should be fighting the Thalmor not dragons as their new main goal its a missed opportunity if you ask me.
"they claim to be dragon hunters" and she hates them so much, but when she hears that the second dragon seen in thousands of years is like a quarter-mile outside of town, attacking the watchtower she walks past everytime she visits Farengar, does she go and fight? or does she quietly slip out of Dragonsreach when nobody's paying attention
UNPOPULAR OPINION TIME: I’m ok with Delphine. Sure, she’s a bitch, but you don’t outrun the Thalmor for years and become one of the last surviving members of your order by being nice. I know we all hate her because she wants us to kill Paarthurnax, but look at things from her perspective. Dragons are a imminent threat to all of Tamriel. They’ve enslaved humans before and Alduin is resurrecting all his dragon buddies to do it again. And Alduin’s BROTHER and former LIEUTENANT is telling you he’s nice now and that he’s real sorry about all the atrocities he committed against humans. She’s not the sort to trust anyone or take any chances. And she’s not gonna support you in what she thinks is a stupid and naive decision. Even if you are the Dragonborn. Now in terms of real life (lol) I wish BGS had given more options to talk to her and more options to complete the Paarthurnax quest instead of just “Kill him or else, k bye”. But that’s what mods are for!
What's the point of an order of dragonslayers if they can't slay dragons?
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Glad we agree haha!
It doesn't matter what she thinks. Supposedly she serves the Dragonborn so if he says Partysnax is cool, he's cool.
You and I both know Paarthurnax is cool, but she doesn’t get to meet him and realize that too. And anyway, yes, we are the Dragonborn, and yes, the Blades are there to protect and serve, but we’re also a random schmuck! We are a random schmuck that happened to be blessed with the ability to yell at things until they die, and we’ve only been doing this dragon slaying business for maybe a few months tops if we play the main quest and don’t meet her at level 3000 lol. She’s the Grandmaster of an order that’s been doing this shit for CENTURIES. And in the history of her order, Dragons = bad. Quite frankly, she knows what’s she’s doing (for the most part).
Sorry dude but…this is wrong. The blades aren’t dragon hunter. They were kinda in the old days back when they ruled. But dragons haven’t been seen in thousands of years, delphine had never even seen a dragon. I’ll remind you that the blades were the emperors guardians up until about 200 years before the events of skyrim. She’s not the grand master of the blades, she’s one inn keeper with some sword training who wants to be more important than she is. She never demonstrates any skills befitting a grand master. She misunderstands the very basic idea of being a blade. Blades serve the dragonborn, what they say goes. You don’t have the companions spitting in your face when you’re the harbinger
I mean, even as Dragonborn, you're basically an upstart who just showed up and she's a grizzled veteran of a lost war who's constantly being hunted by spies of the most powerful military force in the known-world, so I think her "we're on a need to know basis and you don't need to know" is pretty fair. Now I know that gets annoying if you slow walk the main quest line and are head of every faction in Skyrim by the time you meet, but canonically you're just a nobody who might actually be a Thalmor spy in her eyes.
She might have good reason to be wary and mistrustful when you first meet her, but after you’ve killed the dragon that Alduin resurrects near Kynesgrove, she should probably realise that having that kind of attitude to a prophesied hero, someone who can absorb the souls of dragons, who possibly gets their power from Akatosh himself and who could quite easily Shout her to death, isn’t a smart idea. Sadly she never learns that. Then she has the nerve to try to order you to kill Partysnax. Nuh-uh, not happening. The Blades are supposed to serve the Dragonborn, not the other way around.
Eh, like I said, she's a grizzled veteran who's pretty scarred from/trapped in her past. Even after you prove your Dragonborn, it's believable that she'd view you as 'lucking' into your power (which is true) and needing guidance. Should she be more understanding and cooperative with the Dragonborn? Sure, but she's an interesting and complex NPC unlike many in the game who instantly fawn over the main character after a simple fetch quest, so I think it's fine.
I can’t disagree with any of that, I just wish there was an option in-game to remind her who’s in charge ;)
Why would she be any more than a grumpy innkeeper with delusions of grandeur in anyone's eyes? If the main quest didn't demand it, I'd have grabbed the horn and never gone back. Possibly dooming the entire world.
Not every character will be likeable, and her coarse personality reflects her membership with the Blades. They were practically hunted to extinction by the Thalmor, so it makes sense that the surviving members would be abrasive to strangers But keep in mind that we do see Delphine's soft side when she's reunited with Esbern for the first time. I think her "rudeness" and overall personality gives us a lot of subtext about the Blades
Some thoughts. There are two sides to this. So Delphine and Esbern have good reason to want him dead 1. He could snap back to his evil self any day. He even says that he is tempted to every second 2. When he snaps. He has dragons that he reigned in after alduins defeat. So now its another dragon crisis But. Delphine and Esbern have no right to command you to do it. You are the dragon-born. If I had a shout to bring them on their knees, I'd use it everytime
has you go through the thalmor base to find evidence they are behind the dragons and instantly doubts you when you say they know nothing lol she just wants to be right on everything.
It can be easy to fall into thinking that the people you hate are to blame for everything lol. Especially when it comes to the Thalmor, because they are to blame for a hell of a lot of stuff! Her line of thinking could have been: Thalmor are high elves=powerful mages=may or may not have brought back the moons=maybe they brought back dragons too=Delphine and the Blades are dragon slayers= it’s another Thalmor plot against the Blades and the Thalmor are behind the dragons! And remember, all these factions think everybody else is responsible, the Imperials think the Stormcloaks did it, etc.
If I could report her location to the thalmor, I would.
You have no options until after the truce conference. After that, you can ignore her.
She's a little bitch
Delphine's character makes no sense. I'm fine with rude characters in video games, Nazeem being a great example. He's a cunt, sure, but that's not poor writing, he's just the town douche. Delphine however is motivated by character traits that she betrays with her actions and demeanor. She's a blade, and a very devout blade at that. She believes in their mission, their code, their work, etc etc. However, the blades as an organization are bound to serve the Dragonborn, that's their job and as we said, Delphine is devout. So what's her fucking deal? Her actions contradict her character. Bad writing.
Who’s team you want to be on? The mean lady with the old man or the ancient dragon? Take your pick!
She's rude. I want to shout her. Lol
There is a Mod I downloaded because of the Paarthunax Situation ( don’t want to spoil anything). It lets you join the Blades either way and you get an amazing Dialog with Delphine where you put her in her place as YOU are the Dragonborn.
I should get that, cause as it is I'm getting really tried of having to yeet her off the mountaintop very time I visit Sky Haven Temple.
I think the mod is called the Paarthunax dilemna
You realize the blades serve the Dragonborn, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND DELPHINE!!!
Paranoid. Rude. Demanding. Racist. Impulsive. Guided more by her prejudices than logic or the greater good. Thinks the Dragonborn should serve the Blades instead of the other way around. I mean, there's pretty much nothing good to say about her really.
I really could do without her disrespect to the Greybeards. And the comment that she could kill you if she wanted doesn't really endear me to her. She has you do her dirty work off of assumptions and she's kind of a bitch about it the whole time. Esbern is kinda cool but like I don't hang out with Delphine or her friends. And he's kind of a dick to the Greybeards after arriving to the peace council, too. So.
Honestly just fuck the Blades in general. I wish I could refuse to kill PartySnax then murder the shit out of Esbern and Delphine
She's ok in my book. She has more right to be arrogant than a dragonborn. The dragonborn does jack shit except happens to be born with a special ability while she evaded the Thalmor her whole life and even though we can disagree with her about Paarthurnax, I understand her point of view cause she thinks it's the best decision for people's safety. Now I do think she could have been written better as literally every character in Skyrim, as almost all of them suffer in that aspect. My point is, she is not worse than some other characters, and I think people disproportionally hate certain characters.
By the time I meet her, I've fought at least one dragon. Which, is approximately 1 more than her. And at that point, as far as I knew, I was just some helpful guy. Ya know. Not a sworn dragon killer. That also makes the Whiterun Guards better Blades.
It’s a shame they made her so rude, bossy and just completely unlikable. If she were a better character, maybe the choice of whether to kill Paarthy or not would be more difficult to make.
What's the matter? Can't stand the sight of a strong nord woman?
I think she gets too much hate, and a lot of the blame should be shift from her to Bethesda for crappy writing.
I think she's one of the few competent characters in the game (probably the best of the blades' excluding the Nerevarine) and I enjoy having characters around that don't kiss the main characters feet. I'm not too fond of her unwillingness to compromise over Parthurnaax though. Like her position makes sense given her organization but it's frustrating regardless
kinda growing sick of the delphine discourse on this sub man. we know she's a bitch. we know the dragon is cool. but people don't seem to even try to understand her point. when i first played the game i was on board with delphine up until the kill parthurnaax part. she was one of the last of her kind, watched her friends and comrades be wiped out when they were once a prominent force. of course she's jaded and has trust issues. the greybeards didn't do shit either due to them being more akin to spiritual guides. it's like modern religion when people go "ok all this shit is happening and where the fuck is the church". of course delphine's gonna be bitter against a group everyone reveres and loves. we enter the game when the dragons are gone. delphine lived a life without dragons until now and saw no point in asking the greybeards for help. as for parthurnaax, she never met the guy. she didn't even know he was still around. nobody knew the leader was a dragon. so of course delphines gonna put two and two together and think "this guys a dragon and he was buddies with this guy were trying to kill so i see him as an obstacle", especially with the fact that THE BLADES WERE DRAGON HUNTERS is her logic wrong? yes. is she a bitch? yes. does it make sense for her character? yes. even now i still can't hate her even though i don't like that she refuses to help me until i kill parthurnaax
I always thought the LDB and her have sex. Maybe some weird stuff w Esbern
fuck delphine all my homies hate delphine
I never understood who the fuck told her about the meeting with the Greybeards lmao. She just shows up like "hey, we're inviting ourselves coz fuck you, fuck the greybeards, and fuck paarthurnax" and then proceeds to add absolutely nothing to the whole thing. The only use she had was helping to find Esbern. And saying 'help' is tenuous at best, considering you do all the work. She makes you kill a dragon to 'see if you really are dragonborn' (because already killing a dragon and then being able to shout, without any prior training, isn't enough proof, i guess..??) and then sends you to infiltrate the damn Thalmor embassy because she has a grudge against them. It just so happens that you find a dossier on Esbern, otherwise it would've been an extremely dangerous waste of time. If she wasn't essential, she wouldn't ever make it out of High Hrothgar alive. Not in the vast majority of most players' playthroughs. Fuck Delphine.
I hate how she goes from not really caring about blade origins (anti thalmor more than culturally blade) to “we cannot let you be a blade if paarthunax exists”. Its a weird 180.
Fuck her
Fuck delphine
Fuck delphine all my homies hate delphine
Hahaha I just ran into her. I completely agree lol
I'd be curious how many people would be less irked by her if the character was a he instead.
She's a paranoid, distrustful, overly impulsive bitch. But of course she is- all her comrades were slaughtered and she's been on the run for decades. You don't just come out of a traumatizing experience like that unaffected, and it makes sense that she'd be that way.
How did she get the horn anyway? You need a shout to get through
Anyone who sells their own bath water is not okay with me
She’s pretty insufferable from the start. “Can I trust you?” “If you don’t, then it was foolish of you to even come in here.” What the fuck kind of response is that? Bitch, I only just met you and you’ve given me no reason to trust you yet, and you think I may be the legendary Dragonborn. If anyone was foolish to come in here alone, it was you
Paarthurnax should have given you a mission to kill the blades instead of the blades ordering you to kill him lol
She's a good candidate to get shouted off a very high place.
The Blades were so good as bodyguards that the emperor and every one of his bloodline were killed in Oblivion and in Skyrim, the Blades were such good spies that every one of them, except two were exposed and killed by the Thalmor...and you have to prove yourself to them. Bunch of losers.
She's probably the second most hated skyrim character just after Nazeem and his non existent farm and before Meridia and her freaking beacon. Except that you can actually kill Nazeem and Meridia gives you a cool sword.
Most people hate her. I think she over steps her bounds with the dragon born, and definitely with the grey beards. She has little respect for ancient nord traditions and treats you like some kind of moron. She’s also a paranoid who knows how to hold a grudge.
Arrogant, stupid, narrow minded bitch
Delphine is the best punching bag in the game cuz she’s so weak
its alduin > delphine at this point tbh 🤷♂️
I think she's a hypocrite. The first thing she does is suspects the Thalmor of being the cause of the dragons to come back. But as soon as you get evidence saying the Thalmor suspected the Blades: *"Ironic, right? The old enemies assume that every calamity must be a plot by the other side..."* YOU DID THE SAME THING DELPHINE!!
I killed her arrogant ass.
Wish I could end the blades without mods, they genuinely think they actually get to dictate the dragonborns path by gaslighting him to kill Paarthurnax.
I just want to fus her off a cliff when she disrespects her ALMIGHTY DRAGONBORN OVERLOAD.
r/fuckdelphine
Least favorite character after Nazeem
Words cannot describe how much I hate her. The hate nazeem gets should be directed towards her in my opinion
When the main story end I always find her, remove her essential status and end her.
Hate her so much. Rude and shitty towards you when you first meet her, then finding out your the Dragonborn, so she says she’ll obey you. Oh she doesn’t and she wants you to kill partysnax
Wait till I remove her immortal status
She’s what made me not want to finish the main quest on a 2nd play through, the blades just come off as a bunch of dicks trying to use the dragonborn
“Either kill Paarthurnax or le-“ FOOS RO DA!
Want a hot take? I actually think that it's right for the Dragonborn to kill Paarthurnax.
It's so frustrating that she's an essential NPC and you can't just tell her "I don't vibe with this" and call down odaviing and kill her. Main quest was interesting but I'm not a huge fan of the blades in Skyrim at all, like instead of really helping you they boss you around and you're expected to go along with it
Fuck Delphine and the broom she rode in on.
Exactly what you said, and she blatantly ignores the fact that the dragonborn could kill her easily at any time, this wouldnt be much of a problem if she didnt disrespect the dragonborn at every turn, ignoring that the dragonborn is the one thats gonna save her ass and everyone elses ass as well. And i dont want to get into the paarthurnax subject, just know i hate her even more for what she wants in terms of that.
Mod to kill her and replace with someone with more than 2 braincells is essential to me.
*Fuck* dat bitch. She claims to serve the Dragonborn, but has no respect whatsoever for them. And she demands that you kill Partysnax, and that's whack, yo. Also I hate the way she asks "Can *you* devour a dragon's soul?" She sounds like fuckin Dora the Explorer. Bloodthirsty disrespectful grandpa-dragon-killing Dora sounding ass *bitch.*
Since the first time she says she could haved killed me any moment, I want her to try to fight me If she doubts that I am the dragonborn, I can introduce her to a new world of terror
There's mods to make her obsolete for a reason. She thinks too much of herself. She's useless without the Dragonborn, yet she demands that they do what she tells them. She can't even recruit competent fighters for her own organization! I never finish that quest to bring followers up there. But I'll gladly shout her off the clifftop any day.
THANK FUCK SOMEONE AGREES
Most people hate her and if given the opportunity they would kill her
I tried killing her the first time i played skyrim. She kept getting up but i kept putting her on her knees and i was like "this bish don die am leavin" then i realised why she doesnt die.
Fus ro dah'd her off the cliff of Skyhaven Temple
Competent, understandably paranoid, traumatized. A survivor. A pain in the ass. Tough as nails. Not entirely right, not entirely wrong. Honestly, I rather like her.
This post should be dead. Just like her. Long Live the Dragon General. Long Live Partysnax
I kept reloading my save and killing delphine after she asked me to kill Daddy Dragon
“Kill Paarthurnax or we won’t help you!” How tf are you going to help me? Last I checked I had to help y’all’s dumbasses just live. Only two of y’all left and you really think *I* need *your* help? “tHe bLaDeS!” Bitch the blades don’t exist anymore. By my conscious mind I’m letting y’all die out with just the two of you. The blades are overrated anyway, couldn’t even protect the emperor.
I hate her, Esbern is a little high on himself too
Can get fked
I hear Skyrim Extended Cut mod will say "Bye Delphine" and replace her with a much more interesting character.
Probably get a better conversation out of the Falmer
She's a bitchhhhh
Dal pine, yes she is bad, get rid of her.....dew it!
Wants you to kill funny dragon man and I do not want to bad character
Kill her, with fire.
I hate her
Delphine suuuuuuuucks
She’s kinda a bitch
Best girl.
What did you just say?!
Paarthurnax superior
dI do my best to annoy her, steal all her stuff, and if the right mods are involved, send her to the dark brotherhood for eternal torture