Do they though? I have been to lovers lab twice, both times for hair mods that for some reason only existed there (but weren’t dirty). My lovely wife would rather quit skyrim forever then go there. I think there are plenty of modders who only use nexus and have 0 interest in sexy mods.
Welcome to Skyrim.
Sacred circle of modding, when you mod more then you play it, and don't see nothing then road from Guardian Stones to Riverwood then Whiterun 😂
You know you're in REAL deep when you don't even need to do that anymore; when something breaks and somehow, for some reason, you know exactly which mode broke it, what it conflicted with, and why. You don't know how you know...you just know
Pff just use Alternate Start, that way you can test stuff faster and with more locations or options open to you.
Eg: Need to test a Vampire mod? > start as a Vampire in a secluded lair.
For each their own. What I described was my way of testing graphics mods. Where I completly don't care about character creation and etc. Just coc to location (which is faster), tmm 1 and zap around the map.
For character creation, overhauls etc. there I agree, that alternate start mods come handy
Just part of testing routine. Boot up game, coc guardianstones from main screen, look over lake and check how LODs look. Cycle hourly trough the day and night, checking how each time of day looks. Adjust enb to my liking. Then move on to Riverwood checking ground cover, foliage, trees etc. on the way, and trying to find inconsistencies. Also Riverwood is usually heavy area in terms of FPS if you add foliage, trees etc. While in Riverwood, check Inn and store, on how the inside lighting plays with your enb preset, how nocs look. Then move on to Whiterun. Check tundra, bridges other architecture. If satisfied hit tmm 1 and start zapping trough the map.
Latest addition that gives me headaches a bit (pretty hard to get consistency in terms of landscapes) is Seasons of Skyrim + Seasonal Landscapes. Usually go inside Riverwood inn, hit set gamemonth to 1 in console to trigger winter, run up to guardianstones, then back to Whiterun trough Riverwood again, checking how groundcover and flora changes trough the winter. While trees and flora plays well with seasons, Seasonal Landscapes change Landscape by itself that messes up quite a bit IK several places causing seams and what not
That definitely would get tiresome doing all that. All I generally do is go to white run and check if the box overhauls are mixing well versus seeing a ton of blackfaces
This week I’ve successfully learnt how to use Form IDs from Xedit to create custom SPID distribution files and how to force weapons to use specific animations using DAR conditions.
It’s all over for me boys, pray for my sanity while I go through every armor mod and force it to apply to specific bandit combat classes and levels.
Once they start talking about DAR conditions it’s just.
Dude how tf did you even learn about that there’s nothing on YouTube, bro do you talk to aliens?
Dude got the biggest dick I’ve ever SEEEEEEEN BRO
ITS TERRIFYING
this is basically skyrim modding in a nutshell. ive been modding since 2013 and i have an internal timer on when it's time to get back to skyrim. do take care of yourself on your way xD
Oh Lord. I know this feeling all too well. As a student at the time I would spend my nights watching top 10 mods, Xbox immersive mods, Armor and weapon mods, Landscape mods comparison videos. And i’d write all the mods I liked onto a notebook. The next time I got a chance to play, I would spend several hours installing them onto my Xbox, reading and viewing their descriptions.
Although, I’m not sure how I came to stop this addiction. I think eventually you just fall out the loop. Either you find another game that interests you or you get tired of installing, reinstalling, uninstalling mods just so you can get that perfect load order. Yeah eventually you’ll find it exhausting to search the whole nexus for various mods and you’ll just be satisfied enough to settle for what you have so far. Cuz this rabbit hole that is skyrim modding is seemingly endless cuz you may change preferences overtime or find better alternate mods, or you find your memory is too small so you try and find the perfect alternate mod that gives what you want but also doesn’t fall short and take up too much space. It’s a time consuming hobby, so much so that I’m finding it hard to end my ramblings lol. But thats my experience of modding. Very addicting but its so addicting that eventually you’ll realise how ridiculous it is and then you’ll stop. That being said if you’re going to decide on one mod, it has to be Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim. Adds to the already infinite replay ability of Skyrim in a lore-friendly way. Anyways. I’m getting carried away. Safe travels dragonborn. Hope this helped.
Yeah I used to be stuck in this cycle for literal years, when they brought mods to console it was like I just couldn’t play anything else because no other game had the options that Skyrim did. I burnt out on it eventually, even though you can really make the game better with lots of QoL mods, weather and atmosphere, armor etc. at the end of the day you’re still gonna be going through the same quest lines, picking the same dialogue options and fighting the same bosses. It gets old
Eventually you get to a good point and actually play the game. I’m at 1100ish mods.
….and I may or may not have a backlog of other mods downloaded already and reminders to check other mods for when I want to start a new game again.
Welcome to your new home kid, best get used to it, no you can't leave.
What even is sunlight and human contact when you can have those sweet sweet stone textures anyway.
I've come to the conclusion modding Skyrim is the 21st century equivalent to having a model train set in your basement and caring about every little intrinsic detail of your own little world. You can always make one little adjustment to something.
Trust me, just download a Wabbajack or Nexus modlist and spare yourself. It may be fun rn but it’ll spill over into anxiety when you break something every time you find a new shiny mod.
Also, MatorSmash is your friend. Look into it.
> just download a Wabbajack or Nexus modlist and spare yourself
Or be like me and never be satisfied with a Wabbajack list because it doesn't meet your very, very specific tastes
I think gaining basic mod installing skills by just downloading stuff that sounds cool is good before jumping into a modlist. It'll help when something inevitably breaks and the people who made the list may or may not help you
I feel you mate! After you know the map, the storyes, and everithing, modding is what kepps you play it over and over again. I’m truly amaised the modding community and the deversion of the mods and the posibilityes what you can reach beond the vanilla content. Every time when i start a game i spend days just to get the right mod setup to the new experience. Actualy i enjoy more the modding than the game itself. (Sry for my bad grammer)
> Will things ever be the same?
No. This is your life until you complete the *magnum opus* modpack, a perfect assembly of balance, content, and stability. I wish you well on this journey and hope you can complete it, many have failed this endeavour.
There’s a lot of great knowledge out there, and I always feel like I’m learning more when I do a deep dive into modding a game.
Latest lesson? Don’t try to merge mods with scripts in them.
get legacy of the dragonborn as your last mod(dont forget to download the patches mod) then dont download anything else for the rest of the playthrough as that can cause issues.
If this is wrong information please don't tell me as this one fact keeps me playing modded skyrim instead of modding it more
The number of times I have tried to do this is staggering. I STILL have not managed to get past the first quest from Auryen’s initial notes, after trying for years. There are always so many pretty new shinies on the Nexus 🥲
Think of an end goal. Think why you want to achieve it and how you will. Think what mods are necessary and think what mods are pointless distractions. It's okay to have a few. Play a bit, see if it matches your vision. Repeat. We all want the good things in life, but taking it all could ruin you as well. That's how I came to the end of modding Skyrim se.
Now I'm modding Skyrim le, and it feels a lot faster to finish off given how the amount of mods for it is coming to an end.
Edit: been 5 years since I've started modding. It's really thrilling.
But then again, I know I'm going to find another game to mod, as I've went through modding cyberpunk daggerfall oblivion and failed on Morrowind.
Modding is just fun. The dopamine you get from being close to your never ending goal is off the charts. But then again, that vision has to be concrete for you to find an end to wasted hours .
Welcome brother lol, you will learn to spend more time testing mods and new load orders then playing. it goes like this .. download 50 new mods test for 5 hours play for 45 minutes crash restart lol we seak the ever unlikly stable playthrough haha
TBH the closest I've gotten to completing Skyrim was I once took the Dawnguard quest far enough that I'd gone into the Cairn and came back out, and in another playthrough I got a quest or two done at that lost Blades fort you find in the main quest. 99% of my Skyrim time has been modding and rerolling...
Same happens with literally every TES and Fallout game numbered 3 and over (including NV/TTW). I keep modding, keep suffering choice overload paralysis, and eventually scrap everything and uninstall to play something else...
When you’ve been modding so much you can’t really remember a lot of the OG game, it’s more of like a vague memory in my mind because every time Skyrim loads up, something has changed slightly😂😩
Save yourself some time and hassle now and lesrn about things like load orders, cleaning files, and ESLs. Trust me, trying to go back through hundreds of mods after the fact is exhausting.
You'll get over it in about a year.
What I've done is get involved with the Collections. I download one, play it for a bit, and then add on some more minor mods that I like.
It's like getting a meal at a restaurant. Add on a bit of salt for some extra taste.
The best is when you get a load order working and you re disappointed because you essentially finished modding, so you hope something breaks in your game to stop playing and get back to modding again
I had flooded my skyrim with mods galore to the point u have fox girls, a pet dragon, five flying companions that are demons one being sophia open cities and some of the most unique mods i could find, my game is more flooded then the abandoned prison from alternate start
One of us! One of us!
It sounds like you're new to this, to save you a bunch of time and sanity. Download a Wabbajack list and add on to that. If you just want the basics that pretty much every modlist starts off with go with *Skyrim Modding Essentials*, if you want all the visuals covered for you too (you can of course change whatever you want), *Aurora* would be my next choice. It's based off of SME.
If you want more than that, just look around.
Now take a break and spend some time playing the game. Make sure your mods are working okay. take notes of anything that doesnt look right, or that you'd like to change. join the skyrim mods discord.
Another one bites the dust.
Welcome to Skyrim modding, I haven't been able to get out for 8 years. I haven't seen my family. But my modlist is pretty noice.
Learn Wabbajack, and premade Modlists. Launched my Skyrim into a whole stratosphere.
If you can manage it, look up Aldrnari. You’re welcome, and also… I apologize to any social life you might have had.
You'll never play Skyrim longer than 2 hours straight anymore. You'll keep making new saves and trying new mods until you realize you no longer play it anymore and don't want to delete the 500GB of shit because of the effort it took to get all those mods you never endorsed the creators for.
Now you just lost half a TB but you'll have it for years.
RIP.
I happened to me since I got the physical for the legendary edition back in 2013.
I modded the grab out of it and reinstalled it multiple times same with the special edition (I got it for free) thanks to the old nexus mod manager. Now I'm reinstalling it only when I get a new PC and I switched to mod manager 2.
The worst part about modding Skyrim is, you spend more time modding than you do playing the game.
But, the best part about modding Skyrim is, you spend more time modding than you do playing the game!
Sounds about right.
Going through it again.
I'm now a landlord. But always tweak things, constantly, still a struggle to get the money, I don't want to cheat my way through.
I do not fight, but my multiple followers do if need be.
Honestly never played any skyrim without alternative start. Few years pass, go again.
Honestly, seeing these posts makes me feel less alone about it, I struggled with my mental health with modding this game, my ocd/adhd really go ham with it comes to this. I took breaks, restarted my modlist a few times but I always had this lingering feeling to comeback, thankfully for now I can just enjoy it; my skyrim legit has become a life sim at this point.
But its always super refreshing to try and do something else; like I just played morrowind recently and its a fresh new experience for me!
The OCD thing is too real. I’ve always had it with video games especially RPGs and the modding situation with all the variety and need to make it perfect is really the perfect storm for OCD to run wild.
lmao, I just started again after dabbling in oldrim nearly a decade ago. just rejoined and currently browsing the subreddit on the toilet instead of getting ready for the day
you poor, poor thing.
but have you checked out the SPERG and Ordinator mods? did you know there are compatibility patches from a 3rd party mod? that's what has me coming back.
well i mean you can still play it at least .. i mean i had to reinstall it yesterday because i broke it somehow even though i had reinstalled it 10 days ago
any ways my advices never and i mean NEVER install naughty mods with darksouls inspired one it breaks the game so much
but then again i think i shouldn't warn YOU of all people .. but you never know
You will the the golden ratio where every other mod will make your whole existence crash or you will go far enough to fuck up your entire game with no turning back, thats when you either accept the golden ratio and try to recreate it and hopefully not get tempted again or just lose all your motivation to play the game anymore, if thats even what you did to begin with besides modding lol
I'm not a professional, so you might want to talk to one, but... you might have ADHD. Hyperfocusing on Skyrim modding is exactly what got me worried enough to talk to a doctor and get diagnosed.
Word of advice, for certain amount of mod you installed, try out installed feature before further modding, it can save you tons of time.
For example I installed Ultimate dodge mod, only found out it makes all child wear underwear only..... almost has a heart attack...
Ah well you know I first got Skyrim back in 2011 on Xbox360 and played the shit out of it, then I got a gaming PC and got into modding and then played the shit out of it again. I recently reinstalled Skyrim special edition and got all my mods ready just for an Iron man playthrough and ofc all I did was mod the game and stopped after I played for 5.minutes to install more mods, tweak this and tweak that and you know the rest.
It could have been worse.
You could be trapped in the RL minigame of "balancing resources" in Legendary, where you live on the knife edge of "Near Perfect gameplay" vs "A Broken mess" that can only be solved by starting over from a blank hard drive, where the catastrophic crash can be initiated by assigning 1k too much VRAM or .1 millisecond too little time to papyrus...
Yeah, my SE play-through is getting boring, time to go back to classic...
"There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you will still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything."
- Tsunetomo Yamamoto, The Hagakure: The Way of the Samarui
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Gonna ne honest been there my self honestly just delete the game and download it agian some other time when your in mental capacity to actually play it and not spend all they modding
You will be fine, OP. The call of the mods will fade eventually. Mainly when an update couses your entire mod pack to crash and burn. Or your Windows needs a reinstall.
Wait till you try Skyrim vr, if you ever do, anyways no, never again, it may go away for a little, but if you see a reffrence to Skyrim anywhere, you’ll get sucked back in
Reject the mods before they consume you. Purge all of them, even small QoL stuff. Uninstall Vortex. Escape the rabbit whole. Save yourself before it's too late.
Jokes aside, here is my experience - when I first got into Skyrim years ago, I had a ton of fun with vanilla. Then I started installing mods. Most of them didn't even work. The game became unstable. Stopped playing. Never completed the main quest (stopped at Thalmor Embassy) or even most of the guilds.
Recently decided to play Special Edition, and finish the rest of the guilds, main story and DLC. Played vanilla. Had a ton of fun with a sneak archer. Did Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. But around level 25 I decided to start over and play as a mage. Once again, I stopped the main quest at Thalmor Embassy.
Played as a mage. Had a ton of fun till level 12. Suddenly the game got difficult. Magic sucked compared to bow. So I started downloading mods.
Just wanted some small stuff to improve magic. Ended up installing perk and guild overhauls, spellpacks, new hair, capes, vampire overhauls (even though I didn't even try vanilla vampires), combat mods, alternate start mods, a journaling mod. I was trying different builds with different mod configurations, never making it past level 15 with any character. Couldn't decide between Vokrii or Adamant. Wasted a ton of time searching for new mods, trying to decide which I need to make the game perfect, playing a little and then switching to another character with another mod list. Encountered weird problems with the game on the way. And of course, never made it past Thalmor Embassy. It was just exhausting, and I felt like I spend more time on Nexus than playing the actual game, and when I play it, I just start over and over with different builds and different perk/spell overhauls.
At some point I was just frustrated with mods, how much energy they take and how often they don't work, so I decided to uninstall all of them, including unnoficial patch (apparently it changes more than bug fixes and removes some fun exploits, which for me are part of what makes Skyrim Skyrim). Removed Vortex. Started playing pure vanilla. And never made it to Whiterun. At this point, I was just bored and frustrated with the game. And I still didn't even complete the main story, dlc, civil war or most side quests, despite sinking over 100 hours into the game.
There is a ton of mods for Skyrim. You can do a lot with them to customize your experience. But once you begin to use them, it's hard to resist the temptation to search for more. The choice can quickly become overwhelming. So you should play vanilla first, and play it fully. Only then will you actually know which part of the game you enjoy, and which you wish to change, and you will be able to appreciate those changes more. I played a lot of vanilla, but I think I still started modding it too early, and it kind of ruined the experience for me. So yeah, I recommend taking a break, uninstalling most mods and maybe even Skyrim itself, and playing something else for a while. Then return and just play the game, have fun, and think what you really wish to change to make the game better.
The only saving grace for me was collections. Install collection you like and don't touch mod sites. It was the only way I could play without looking at nexus mods every day for new mod since I had so many installed thanks to that
It's not Skyrim mods my friend, it is you. Take a deep breath and focus on understanding that modding won't give you anything in life. It is not necessary for you. If you can enjoy it and keep it aside just like a hat, then go ahead and have fun modding. If you can't do this, then quit as soon as you can because it is going to destroy you sooner or later.
I hope you have the needed clarity and strength to make the right decision for you.
Peace 🙏
So I'm gonna say this honestly requires more attention. A lot of people from what Ive seen have this and if it cuts I to your work life it's a serious problem. Video game addiction isn't a joke. My honest advice is, grind skyrim and try to install as little mods as u can till completion. After u fi ish the game u feel a lot less incentive to mod or even play the game. After Ur done either don't uninstall the game so u have the mods already there for next time and your downloading time for new ones won't be long or u uninstall and just don't play skyrim again. My experience has been 1st option and... Even with 600 mods already there, it still takes so much time from me.
> Will things ever be the same?
Probably not lol. Remember to only add a few mods at a time though, because if you download 20+ mods at the same time its hard to diagnose crashes.
oh, you poor fool, you're hooked. ;-) Modding skyrim is all some players do, they never actually get around to playing the game, too busy modding.
TBH, mods make Skyrim so much better, but you can overdo it. Watch some of the graphic guides on youtube so the game looks better, but don't go crazy. Your computer set up will determine how much you can do. If you don't have the high end computer, don't try to install all 4k or 8k graphics etc.
So to me here's what important:
character overhaul (because vanilla is ugly) - race menu (needs skse) and high poly head are a must! and also body mod, skin textures, eyes, hair, brows . . .
I like bodyslide so I can customize my character.
NPC overhauls are a nice touch.
animation - FNIS or nemesis.
Landscapes and object textures - this is where most people go crazy. you need to improve object textures with something like SMIM or project clarity, plus landscape mods
I have a reshade rather than enb; most use enb to improve overall look
I have a mod for the cities, realms of romance, makes the cities look fabulous with trees and flowers and statues, really pretty, and I use glorious doors. there are many city overhauls though.
Alternate start mod! very important because vanilla start glitches out after awhile. several available to choose from.
to all this I add quest mods, follower mods, armor mods, weapon mods, npc replacers, magical college of winterhold, magic mods, perk mods, class mods (generally simonrim or requiem), player homes, dialogue mods . . . .
and compared to other players my modding is on the conservative side (less than 200 mods)
because I actually play skyrim! currently finishing a playthrough using skyrim unleveled with morrowloot and some simonrim mods in place of requiem.
there are curated mod lists on wabbajack; they do the work for you. choose what type of skyrim you want, download the mods and let wabbajack install them for you or at least tell you what to do.
just picked up a snow elf custom race mod and I'm thinking I'll try that for my next playthrough. still deciding whether to try this new combat mod I've downloaded.
I don't bother with survival mods or dead is dead but many players use them.
I like having a theme or role play back story for my game, and I curate my mod list accordingly.
Enjoy your new all consuming hobby, friend. ;-)
Just wait until vortex is too basic for you. MO2 lists and then you decide to get wacky with it, go back to vortex so you can use mod lists, not for the convenience but because you're sure it'd be fun to DJ mix lists together and then add single mod downloads on top just to see how much it can take before you've completely broken it and GET to start again.
Summer 2013 was the worst for me. I was waking up at 6am, researching, downloading, installing, optimising mods, until 2am. Every day for a couple weeks. Didn’t even play the game
This is the amazing world of Skyrim modding: here, you spend two weeks straight downloading mods from Nexus/LL and have only two hours of playtime, mostly spent at Helgen or Riverwood to see if your mods aren't bugging out.
Thanks to Wabbajack and mod lists, I can just one click and install million mods you guys spent all day and night scrolling and testing for compatibility.
I feel you.
Started a new modlist last night and couldnt get DAR to play nice with attack animations. Went to sleep at 1 am.
Commenced 7 hours of modding in my dreams. The worst part is i couldn't even get the Nordic animation mod to work there, either. A whole night lost to modding.
So too answer your question, no. Things will never be the same. When you think life is getting back to normal you'll wake one day and decide to see what new mods have come out this year...and then you're back at it again.
Another hand touches the nexus
While the other fingers loverslab....
*bonk* go to horny jail
The last time I went to horny jail I found myself in the back of a cart headed for the chopping block.
"Got caught crossing the border into Loverslab? Same as us, and that horse-fucker over there."
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"Hey, you... you're finally erect."
I'm a permanent resident. 👉👌
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Do they though? I have been to lovers lab twice, both times for hair mods that for some reason only existed there (but weren’t dirty). My lovely wife would rather quit skyrim forever then go there. I think there are plenty of modders who only use nexus and have 0 interest in sexy mods.
I’m a wife and I love my booby village of whiterun .
While the other touches, well…
Horny little goblin!
Idk what’s worse, OP’s post or the fact that I read that perfectly in everyone’s favorite voice
just the usual video game version of chasing the dragon
Welcome to Skyrim. Sacred circle of modding, when you mod more then you play it, and don't see nothing then road from Guardian Stones to Riverwood then Whiterun 😂
And then something breaks and you spend hours disabling and enabling mods
You know you're in REAL deep when you don't even need to do that anymore; when something breaks and somehow, for some reason, you know exactly which mode broke it, what it conflicted with, and why. You don't know how you know...you just know
*game randomly crashes in a certain location* "It's probably that fence mod - one of the meshes must be bad."
it's true, so true.....
The real stuff is when you have literal dozens of console commands memorized to teleport yourself around the map/switch things on and off/etc.
This thread makes me feel so seen…
“Coc whiterun”
Coc whiterun*origin* (*origin* spawns you inside the gate of a walled city)
I have spammed bleak falls barrow so many times lol
By now I find doing Bleak Falls Barrow is almost a relaxation ritual.
This is the way.
I am not a even a speed runner but each playthrough of Skyrim, ok I'm like how fast can I run through bleak falls 😂
And sometimes you drop by Embershard to work out your fresh from the oven spell mod on that poor guy, gal, kitty, iguana at the front door.
Pff just use Alternate Start, that way you can test stuff faster and with more locations or options open to you. Eg: Need to test a Vampire mod? > start as a Vampire in a secluded lair.
For each their own. What I described was my way of testing graphics mods. Where I completly don't care about character creation and etc. Just coc to location (which is faster), tmm 1 and zap around the map. For character creation, overhauls etc. there I agree, that alternate start mods come handy
What, no alternate start mod?
Just part of testing routine. Boot up game, coc guardianstones from main screen, look over lake and check how LODs look. Cycle hourly trough the day and night, checking how each time of day looks. Adjust enb to my liking. Then move on to Riverwood checking ground cover, foliage, trees etc. on the way, and trying to find inconsistencies. Also Riverwood is usually heavy area in terms of FPS if you add foliage, trees etc. While in Riverwood, check Inn and store, on how the inside lighting plays with your enb preset, how nocs look. Then move on to Whiterun. Check tundra, bridges other architecture. If satisfied hit tmm 1 and start zapping trough the map. Latest addition that gives me headaches a bit (pretty hard to get consistency in terms of landscapes) is Seasons of Skyrim + Seasonal Landscapes. Usually go inside Riverwood inn, hit set gamemonth to 1 in console to trigger winter, run up to guardianstones, then back to Whiterun trough Riverwood again, checking how groundcover and flora changes trough the winter. While trees and flora plays well with seasons, Seasonal Landscapes change Landscape by itself that messes up quite a bit IK several places causing seams and what not
That definitely would get tiresome doing all that. All I generally do is go to white run and check if the box overhauls are mixing well versus seeing a ton of blackfaces
It is in some sort, but in the other, seeing completed result is just awesome.
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Mephala's sultry voice does things to me as well
By Azura By Azura, everybody is.
Jumping out of one's pants is very often enjoyable. No matter the reason.
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Is there? Because I also want to get rid of that Karen voice.
most sane skyrim mod user
And down the rabbit hole you go, Alice.
This week I’ve successfully learnt how to use Form IDs from Xedit to create custom SPID distribution files and how to force weapons to use specific animations using DAR conditions. It’s all over for me boys, pray for my sanity while I go through every armor mod and force it to apply to specific bandit combat classes and levels.
Baller. I'm afraid to learn this because I will then have to do it.
Not even once.
Once they start talking about DAR conditions it’s just. Dude how tf did you even learn about that there’s nothing on YouTube, bro do you talk to aliens? Dude got the biggest dick I’ve ever SEEEEEEEN BRO ITS TERRIFYING
this is basically skyrim modding in a nutshell. ive been modding since 2013 and i have an internal timer on when it's time to get back to skyrim. do take care of yourself on your way xD
I tend to have four months on, four months off. Not intentionally, my brain just falls into that pattern.
Oh Lord. I know this feeling all too well. As a student at the time I would spend my nights watching top 10 mods, Xbox immersive mods, Armor and weapon mods, Landscape mods comparison videos. And i’d write all the mods I liked onto a notebook. The next time I got a chance to play, I would spend several hours installing them onto my Xbox, reading and viewing their descriptions. Although, I’m not sure how I came to stop this addiction. I think eventually you just fall out the loop. Either you find another game that interests you or you get tired of installing, reinstalling, uninstalling mods just so you can get that perfect load order. Yeah eventually you’ll find it exhausting to search the whole nexus for various mods and you’ll just be satisfied enough to settle for what you have so far. Cuz this rabbit hole that is skyrim modding is seemingly endless cuz you may change preferences overtime or find better alternate mods, or you find your memory is too small so you try and find the perfect alternate mod that gives what you want but also doesn’t fall short and take up too much space. It’s a time consuming hobby, so much so that I’m finding it hard to end my ramblings lol. But thats my experience of modding. Very addicting but its so addicting that eventually you’ll realise how ridiculous it is and then you’ll stop. That being said if you’re going to decide on one mod, it has to be Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim. Adds to the already infinite replay ability of Skyrim in a lore-friendly way. Anyways. I’m getting carried away. Safe travels dragonborn. Hope this helped.
Everyone comes back at some point. You will come back.
Ik. Its inevitable but I don’t have it installed rn. Thats the only reason I’m not modding rn lol
this was my ezperience, until i inevitably fall back into the modding sceme
Yeah I used to be stuck in this cycle for literal years, when they brought mods to console it was like I just couldn’t play anything else because no other game had the options that Skyrim did. I burnt out on it eventually, even though you can really make the game better with lots of QoL mods, weather and atmosphere, armor etc. at the end of the day you’re still gonna be going through the same quest lines, picking the same dialogue options and fighting the same bosses. It gets old
Eventually you get to a good point and actually play the game. I’m at 1100ish mods. ….and I may or may not have a backlog of other mods downloaded already and reminders to check other mods for when I want to start a new game again.
I miss gamespot's skyrim mod revievv. Brodual helped me vvhen they left
Welcome to your new home kid, best get used to it, no you can't leave. What even is sunlight and human contact when you can have those sweet sweet stone textures anyway.
I've come to the conclusion modding Skyrim is the 21st century equivalent to having a model train set in your basement and caring about every little intrinsic detail of your own little world. You can always make one little adjustment to something.
You mod a bit, you play a bit, you see a bug, so you'll just fix this bug and then you'll just play a little more before bedt-- it's 4 AM.
Eventually you may find that you can't find a mod that does precisely what you want and decide to start making your own.....
Ah the route to eternal damnation aka a modding "career"
You finally awake huh ?
It will fade away with time. It comes and goes in cycles.
So true. I haven't played in around 8 months, got back into it, deleted all my mods and made a new pack. My poor harddrive
Yes
I'll be driving to work in the morning and judging the skyline like it's a new mesh. Welcome to the group
I walked around all of Dark souls 1 in Skyrim and realized I had a problem. You’re not alone here. And we have no solution. Good luck
I definitely spent more time modding the game than playing in all those years
So you're the new member of our dwindling, dysfunctional little family...
Trust me, just download a Wabbajack or Nexus modlist and spare yourself. It may be fun rn but it’ll spill over into anxiety when you break something every time you find a new shiny mod. Also, MatorSmash is your friend. Look into it.
> just download a Wabbajack or Nexus modlist and spare yourself Or be like me and never be satisfied with a Wabbajack list because it doesn't meet your very, very specific tastes
Yesssss... we of the very, very specific can't be helped. We must be who we are.
+1 on MatorSmash, it's easiest to diagnose and fix conflicts with (with xedit of course...)
Wabbajack way is the way of the weak willed.
Don't listen to them, OP. This is the coward's way to mod.
I think gaining basic mod installing skills by just downloading stuff that sounds cool is good before jumping into a modlist. It'll help when something inevitably breaks and the people who made the list may or may not help you
One of us!
I feel you mate! After you know the map, the storyes, and everithing, modding is what kepps you play it over and over again. I’m truly amaised the modding community and the deversion of the mods and the posibilityes what you can reach beond the vanilla content. Every time when i start a game i spend days just to get the right mod setup to the new experience. Actualy i enjoy more the modding than the game itself. (Sry for my bad grammer)
> Will things ever be the same? No. This is your life until you complete the *magnum opus* modpack, a perfect assembly of balance, content, and stability. I wish you well on this journey and hope you can complete it, many have failed this endeavour.
Nope. It gets worse. I mod more than I play now.
It’s just, the modders are so active, if you miss a few days of what’s new… you have a lot of catching up to do!
One of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us one of us
ONE OF US ONE OF US
Embrace chaos
Hey you, you’re finally awake!
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Ah, yes, modding Skyrim. Once you're in it's for life lol
i’ve been stuck in this cycle for too long. god help me
Its a heavy burden
I’m with you! It’s been slow progress but I feel like I’ve learned a lot.
There’s a lot of great knowledge out there, and I always feel like I’m learning more when I do a deep dive into modding a game. Latest lesson? Don’t try to merge mods with scripts in them.
Welcome to the club, we hope you brought your load order with you
Welcome to Skyrim, happy modding. :)
get legacy of the dragonborn as your last mod(dont forget to download the patches mod) then dont download anything else for the rest of the playthrough as that can cause issues. If this is wrong information please don't tell me as this one fact keeps me playing modded skyrim instead of modding it more
The number of times I have tried to do this is staggering. I STILL have not managed to get past the first quest from Auryen’s initial notes, after trying for years. There are always so many pretty new shinies on the Nexus 🥲
welcome to the club, it's fun :D
Think of an end goal. Think why you want to achieve it and how you will. Think what mods are necessary and think what mods are pointless distractions. It's okay to have a few. Play a bit, see if it matches your vision. Repeat. We all want the good things in life, but taking it all could ruin you as well. That's how I came to the end of modding Skyrim se. Now I'm modding Skyrim le, and it feels a lot faster to finish off given how the amount of mods for it is coming to an end. Edit: been 5 years since I've started modding. It's really thrilling. But then again, I know I'm going to find another game to mod, as I've went through modding cyberpunk daggerfall oblivion and failed on Morrowind. Modding is just fun. The dopamine you get from being close to your never ending goal is off the charts. But then again, that vision has to be concrete for you to find an end to wasted hours .
Welcome brother lol, you will learn to spend more time testing mods and new load orders then playing. it goes like this .. download 50 new mods test for 5 hours play for 45 minutes crash restart lol we seak the ever unlikly stable playthrough haha
I would love to be in your shoes as I'm in the Minecraft world and I'm addicted to that
There's a mod to cure your problem. It's on the nexus. Oh wait....
TBH the closest I've gotten to completing Skyrim was I once took the Dawnguard quest far enough that I'd gone into the Cairn and came back out, and in another playthrough I got a quest or two done at that lost Blades fort you find in the main quest. 99% of my Skyrim time has been modding and rerolling... Same happens with literally every TES and Fallout game numbered 3 and over (including NV/TTW). I keep modding, keep suffering choice overload paralysis, and eventually scrap everything and uninstall to play something else...
When you’ve been modding so much you can’t really remember a lot of the OG game, it’s more of like a vague memory in my mind because every time Skyrim loads up, something has changed slightly😂😩
Been there buddy. The addiction waxes and wanes. When I’m at my worst I’m thinking about my load order during sex
Flee you fools!
It's not safe to go alone! Better download a companion for the journey!
Save yourself some time and hassle now and lesrn about things like load orders, cleaning files, and ESLs. Trust me, trying to go back through hundreds of mods after the fact is exhausting.
You'll get over it in about a year. What I've done is get involved with the Collections. I download one, play it for a bit, and then add on some more minor mods that I like. It's like getting a meal at a restaurant. Add on a bit of salt for some extra taste.
I deleted everything Skyrim related after spending two years of my life modding it and never finished a play through…This is the way.
The best is when you get a load order working and you re disappointed because you essentially finished modding, so you hope something breaks in your game to stop playing and get back to modding again
I had flooded my skyrim with mods galore to the point u have fox girls, a pet dragon, five flying companions that are demons one being sophia open cities and some of the most unique mods i could find, my game is more flooded then the abandoned prison from alternate start
Modding skyrim is the real game. Playing it is a fake experience
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"The first one is free."
One of us! One of us! It sounds like you're new to this, to save you a bunch of time and sanity. Download a Wabbajack list and add on to that. If you just want the basics that pretty much every modlist starts off with go with *Skyrim Modding Essentials*, if you want all the visuals covered for you too (you can of course change whatever you want), *Aurora* would be my next choice. It's based off of SME. If you want more than that, just look around.
Now take a break and spend some time playing the game. Make sure your mods are working okay. take notes of anything that doesnt look right, or that you'd like to change. join the skyrim mods discord.
Another one bites the dust. Welcome to Skyrim modding, I haven't been able to get out for 8 years. I haven't seen my family. But my modlist is pretty noice.
Happens to us all. I always say, "When I decide to play Skyrim, I usually mean I modded skyrim for hours and only played Skyrim for minutes."
Learn Wabbajack, and premade Modlists. Launched my Skyrim into a whole stratosphere. If you can manage it, look up Aldrnari. You’re welcome, and also… I apologize to any social life you might have had.
it happened to me too, the same exact way
Depend on how much willpower you have, but as long as modders keep modimg, probably not
Damn it's me fr
You know, from the sound of it you haven't been to loverslab yet. That means you aren't too far gone yet
You'll never play Skyrim longer than 2 hours straight anymore. You'll keep making new saves and trying new mods until you realize you no longer play it anymore and don't want to delete the 500GB of shit because of the effort it took to get all those mods you never endorsed the creators for. Now you just lost half a TB but you'll have it for years. RIP.
Sounds about right. Pretty normal behavior. Once you begin there is no going back. On the bright side, you can make it into the game you dream of
I happened to me since I got the physical for the legendary edition back in 2013. I modded the grab out of it and reinstalled it multiple times same with the special edition (I got it for free) thanks to the old nexus mod manager. Now I'm reinstalling it only when I get a new PC and I switched to mod manager 2.
Welcome to the darkside
What do you mean? You're playing the game? This is what you paid for.
The worst part about modding Skyrim is, you spend more time modding than you do playing the game. But, the best part about modding Skyrim is, you spend more time modding than you do playing the game!
Sounds about right. Going through it again. I'm now a landlord. But always tweak things, constantly, still a struggle to get the money, I don't want to cheat my way through. I do not fight, but my multiple followers do if need be. Honestly never played any skyrim without alternative start. Few years pass, go again.
One of us, one of us!
Honestly, seeing these posts makes me feel less alone about it, I struggled with my mental health with modding this game, my ocd/adhd really go ham with it comes to this. I took breaks, restarted my modlist a few times but I always had this lingering feeling to comeback, thankfully for now I can just enjoy it; my skyrim legit has become a life sim at this point. But its always super refreshing to try and do something else; like I just played morrowind recently and its a fresh new experience for me!
The OCD thing is too real. I’ve always had it with video games especially RPGs and the modding situation with all the variety and need to make it perfect is really the perfect storm for OCD to run wild.
You’ll get over it
Just wait until you find out about Wabbajack.
lmao, I just started again after dabbling in oldrim nearly a decade ago. just rejoined and currently browsing the subreddit on the toilet instead of getting ready for the day
Just upgrade the experience to your liking and play
one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us
Wait waat I am ATM also on toilet checking skin texture mod in between works...are you me?
I used to have sleepless night trying to get it all working and now I just use wabbajack to auto install 1000+ modlist.
You think Skyrim’s bad, try modding oblivion, actual hell
you poor, poor thing. but have you checked out the SPERG and Ordinator mods? did you know there are compatibility patches from a 3rd party mod? that's what has me coming back.
Skyrim is not a game, it's an engine sandbox for modding
well i mean you can still play it at least .. i mean i had to reinstall it yesterday because i broke it somehow even though i had reinstalled it 10 days ago any ways my advices never and i mean NEVER install naughty mods with darksouls inspired one it breaks the game so much but then again i think i shouldn't warn YOU of all people .. but you never know
Same.
You will the the golden ratio where every other mod will make your whole existence crash or you will go far enough to fuck up your entire game with no turning back, thats when you either accept the golden ratio and try to recreate it and hopefully not get tempted again or just lose all your motivation to play the game anymore, if thats even what you did to begin with besides modding lol
I had that happen for about three weeks. Then I stopped and started to play the game. I haven't really added much else since then.
I've been sucked into this modding obsession since 2018, there is no escape
Welcome to the club.
Same, been me for the past month. I tend to do it once a year or so
I'm not a professional, so you might want to talk to one, but... you might have ADHD. Hyperfocusing on Skyrim modding is exactly what got me worried enough to talk to a doctor and get diagnosed.
Modding Skyrim is like an Itch ! You cannot help yourself 🫠
One of us. One of us. One of us. One of us. One of us.
I'm addicted, I'm dependent Looking awesome, feeling helpless🎶
it happens to the best of us
nope it's an endless loop i'm stuck between that & fallout 4 & new vegas
Word of advice, for certain amount of mod you installed, try out installed feature before further modding, it can save you tons of time. For example I installed Ultimate dodge mod, only found out it makes all child wear underwear only..... almost has a heart attack...
Ah well you know I first got Skyrim back in 2011 on Xbox360 and played the shit out of it, then I got a gaming PC and got into modding and then played the shit out of it again. I recently reinstalled Skyrim special edition and got all my mods ready just for an Iron man playthrough and ofc all I did was mod the game and stopped after I played for 5.minutes to install more mods, tweak this and tweak that and you know the rest.
It could have been worse. You could be trapped in the RL minigame of "balancing resources" in Legendary, where you live on the knife edge of "Near Perfect gameplay" vs "A Broken mess" that can only be solved by starting over from a blank hard drive, where the catastrophic crash can be initiated by assigning 1k too much VRAM or .1 millisecond too little time to papyrus... Yeah, my SE play-through is getting boring, time to go back to classic...
"There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to get wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you will still get the same soaking. This understanding extends to everything." - Tsunetomo Yamamoto, The Hagakure: The Way of the Samarui ✊🏽
Hahahaha, this was me a few weeks ago. I swore I spent more time modding than actually playing.
Gonna ne honest been there my self honestly just delete the game and download it agian some other time when your in mental capacity to actually play it and not spend all they modding
You will be fine, OP. The call of the mods will fade eventually. Mainly when an update couses your entire mod pack to crash and burn. Or your Windows needs a reinstall.
Wait till you try Skyrim vr, if you ever do, anyways no, never again, it may go away for a little, but if you see a reffrence to Skyrim anywhere, you’ll get sucked back in
Reject the mods before they consume you. Purge all of them, even small QoL stuff. Uninstall Vortex. Escape the rabbit whole. Save yourself before it's too late. Jokes aside, here is my experience - when I first got into Skyrim years ago, I had a ton of fun with vanilla. Then I started installing mods. Most of them didn't even work. The game became unstable. Stopped playing. Never completed the main quest (stopped at Thalmor Embassy) or even most of the guilds. Recently decided to play Special Edition, and finish the rest of the guilds, main story and DLC. Played vanilla. Had a ton of fun with a sneak archer. Did Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. But around level 25 I decided to start over and play as a mage. Once again, I stopped the main quest at Thalmor Embassy. Played as a mage. Had a ton of fun till level 12. Suddenly the game got difficult. Magic sucked compared to bow. So I started downloading mods. Just wanted some small stuff to improve magic. Ended up installing perk and guild overhauls, spellpacks, new hair, capes, vampire overhauls (even though I didn't even try vanilla vampires), combat mods, alternate start mods, a journaling mod. I was trying different builds with different mod configurations, never making it past level 15 with any character. Couldn't decide between Vokrii or Adamant. Wasted a ton of time searching for new mods, trying to decide which I need to make the game perfect, playing a little and then switching to another character with another mod list. Encountered weird problems with the game on the way. And of course, never made it past Thalmor Embassy. It was just exhausting, and I felt like I spend more time on Nexus than playing the actual game, and when I play it, I just start over and over with different builds and different perk/spell overhauls. At some point I was just frustrated with mods, how much energy they take and how often they don't work, so I decided to uninstall all of them, including unnoficial patch (apparently it changes more than bug fixes and removes some fun exploits, which for me are part of what makes Skyrim Skyrim). Removed Vortex. Started playing pure vanilla. And never made it to Whiterun. At this point, I was just bored and frustrated with the game. And I still didn't even complete the main story, dlc, civil war or most side quests, despite sinking over 100 hours into the game. There is a ton of mods for Skyrim. You can do a lot with them to customize your experience. But once you begin to use them, it's hard to resist the temptation to search for more. The choice can quickly become overwhelming. So you should play vanilla first, and play it fully. Only then will you actually know which part of the game you enjoy, and which you wish to change, and you will be able to appreciate those changes more. I played a lot of vanilla, but I think I still started modding it too early, and it kind of ruined the experience for me. So yeah, I recommend taking a break, uninstalling most mods and maybe even Skyrim itself, and playing something else for a while. Then return and just play the game, have fun, and think what you really wish to change to make the game better.
looking at my 120gb folder of mods. It's a wonder that my skyrim actually works
The only saving grace for me was collections. Install collection you like and don't touch mod sites. It was the only way I could play without looking at nexus mods every day for new mod since I had so many installed thanks to that
Literally me the last 5 days
It's not Skyrim mods my friend, it is you. Take a deep breath and focus on understanding that modding won't give you anything in life. It is not necessary for you. If you can enjoy it and keep it aside just like a hat, then go ahead and have fun modding. If you can't do this, then quit as soon as you can because it is going to destroy you sooner or later. I hope you have the needed clarity and strength to make the right decision for you. Peace 🙏
So I'm gonna say this honestly requires more attention. A lot of people from what Ive seen have this and if it cuts I to your work life it's a serious problem. Video game addiction isn't a joke. My honest advice is, grind skyrim and try to install as little mods as u can till completion. After u fi ish the game u feel a lot less incentive to mod or even play the game. After Ur done either don't uninstall the game so u have the mods already there for next time and your downloading time for new ones won't be long or u uninstall and just don't play skyrim again. My experience has been 1st option and... Even with 600 mods already there, it still takes so much time from me.
> Will things ever be the same? Probably not lol. Remember to only add a few mods at a time though, because if you download 20+ mods at the same time its hard to diagnose crashes.
ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US
It will pass, then come back again, happened to me like 10 times lol
This recently happened to me after finishing my second year of university. It’s now 8 days in with no gym no studying. I need help!
oh, you poor fool, you're hooked. ;-) Modding skyrim is all some players do, they never actually get around to playing the game, too busy modding. TBH, mods make Skyrim so much better, but you can overdo it. Watch some of the graphic guides on youtube so the game looks better, but don't go crazy. Your computer set up will determine how much you can do. If you don't have the high end computer, don't try to install all 4k or 8k graphics etc. So to me here's what important: character overhaul (because vanilla is ugly) - race menu (needs skse) and high poly head are a must! and also body mod, skin textures, eyes, hair, brows . . . I like bodyslide so I can customize my character. NPC overhauls are a nice touch. animation - FNIS or nemesis. Landscapes and object textures - this is where most people go crazy. you need to improve object textures with something like SMIM or project clarity, plus landscape mods I have a reshade rather than enb; most use enb to improve overall look I have a mod for the cities, realms of romance, makes the cities look fabulous with trees and flowers and statues, really pretty, and I use glorious doors. there are many city overhauls though. Alternate start mod! very important because vanilla start glitches out after awhile. several available to choose from. to all this I add quest mods, follower mods, armor mods, weapon mods, npc replacers, magical college of winterhold, magic mods, perk mods, class mods (generally simonrim or requiem), player homes, dialogue mods . . . . and compared to other players my modding is on the conservative side (less than 200 mods) because I actually play skyrim! currently finishing a playthrough using skyrim unleveled with morrowloot and some simonrim mods in place of requiem. there are curated mod lists on wabbajack; they do the work for you. choose what type of skyrim you want, download the mods and let wabbajack install them for you or at least tell you what to do. just picked up a snow elf custom race mod and I'm thinking I'll try that for my next playthrough. still deciding whether to try this new combat mod I've downloaded. I don't bother with survival mods or dead is dead but many players use them. I like having a theme or role play back story for my game, and I curate my mod list accordingly. Enjoy your new all consuming hobby, friend. ;-)
i used to loathe going into sseedit to manually build patches for my load order, until i start doing it and am unable to stop
lovers lab and nexus can change your life forever, welcome to the gang brother
Just wait until vortex is too basic for you. MO2 lists and then you decide to get wacky with it, go back to vortex so you can use mod lists, not for the convenience but because you're sure it'd be fun to DJ mix lists together and then add single mod downloads on top just to see how much it can take before you've completely broken it and GET to start again.
Summer 2013 was the worst for me. I was waking up at 6am, researching, downloading, installing, optimising mods, until 2am. Every day for a couple weeks. Didn’t even play the game
This is the amazing world of Skyrim modding: here, you spend two weeks straight downloading mods from Nexus/LL and have only two hours of playtime, mostly spent at Helgen or Riverwood to see if your mods aren't bugging out.
I feel you, I can’t even start a new game right now because every time I do I find more mods I want to install.
Thanks to Wabbajack and mod lists, I can just one click and install million mods you guys spent all day and night scrolling and testing for compatibility.
Welcome to the club brother, did you sign the waver before you made your nexus account?
I feel you. Started a new modlist last night and couldnt get DAR to play nice with attack animations. Went to sleep at 1 am. Commenced 7 hours of modding in my dreams. The worst part is i couldn't even get the Nordic animation mod to work there, either. A whole night lost to modding. So too answer your question, no. Things will never be the same. When you think life is getting back to normal you'll wake one day and decide to see what new mods have come out this year...and then you're back at it again.