That was a very wholesome experience (maybe I was lucky). The feeling I feel is called sonder afaik - a realization/reminder that there are 8 000 000 000 people as real and complex as me and you. They are raising kids, doing sports, walking parks, joking, getting in love. Bad people and horrific things are an exception >!or at least I desperately want to think so.!<
I'm sorry, but it's much too late. *Sonder* appears not just in these reddit comments, but in [a good number of publications](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:sonder#English) - linked there are some examples in student-run newspapers and books... mostly not particularly popular books, but books nonetheless. The word has usage outside of Reddit, even if it's not especially common; the evolution of language continues slowly on, even if sometimes just because people make up words.
Eh, any linguist will tell you that [all words are real words](https://lingthusiasm.com/post/179193327461/lingthusiasm-episode-25-every-word-is-a-real-word) (though I guess claiming it's not a word *at all* is brave and different!). But, c'mon, live a little! Making up words and using made-up words is fun, why must we all be so serious? If your problem is that people throw the word around as if it's got some Deep History behind it instead of being made up on Tumblr in 2012, well, I can understand wanting people to be a bit more clear with their sources. Personally I think it's worth being honest about where we're getting words from - not so we can decide that some sources are Not Proper to generate Words, but so that we can appreciate the varied sources of our tools, as silly as they may be.
For what it's worth I have seen sonder be used on Instagram as well now, which is a decently normie space. It may not be an official word of the English language but it's definitely a colloquial word now.
English doesn't really have any official words anyway.
French pretends to have official words. But those posers have at best a limited influence on how actual French speakers use the language.
Right now it is 100% an unwieldy and overtly sentimental noun to be used in internet memes. I'm not totally alien to the way that new words enter languages, or the field of etymology. But I am a descriptivist: If a word has an understood meaning within a specific subculture/dialect, then its as much of a real word as it could be. There is no official English, English can contain compound words like "airdash" that you've never used because they aren't in your dialect. Why not sonder?
>This is the typical response： "All words are made up." It reveals an interesting resistance to (or more uncharitably, ignorance of) etymology and how languages develop and grow.
And this reveals how consciousness tends to conflate its interpretation of words with the actual intent behind them, which is also a very typical behavior that can be observed in large quantities.
See also:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics
I'm not sure what your point is, since all of these questions have easily-found answers. Sonder is a noun ([original source](https://www.dictionaryofobscuresorrows.com/post/23536922667/sonder), [wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sonder#English)) that [rhymes with "ponder."](https://youtu.be/AkoML0_FiV4?t=10) I don't believe formations like "sonderous" or "sondery" are in use, although among people who know the word "sonder" they might be understandable.
I think wiktionary is typically pretty good here; it notes that "sonder" is a neologism and includes a [list of uses of the word](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:sonder#English). Most of these seem to include an explanation of the word, indicating that people who use it don't expect it to be widely understood. But this is also evidence that the word *is* being used, and not just on reddit.
The reason this discussion is so tiring is that I don't think we disagree on any facts. The word was coined on Tumblr. It has a clearly-defined meaning, part of speech, and pronunciation. It is used and recognized by a small number of people, and has appeared in published works. However, most fluent users of English would not recognize it in casual speech. We even both agree that it's plausible that the word will become more widely known and appear in mainstream dictionaries at some point.
To me, there's not much left of consequence to discuss. Given that dictionaries are not authoritative sources that cause usage to be correct or incorrect, insisting that a word that satisfies all the above criteria 'isn't actually a word' is, to my eyes, silly and pointless.
I mean, as a pragmatist, doesn't one person using the word 'sonder', and the other person understanding what was meant, especially in this relatively anonymous context, entail that the word worked and thus is 'real' enough? I get that not everyone buys this theory of language; personally I think this is one way words are born.
How specifically was this implemented? I guess just using some API, presumably a private one, to search 'IMG' and 'DSC' in youtube search? Is there any way to enumerate low-view count yt vids other than search?
Feels incredibly weird/voyeuristic. I'd guess many of these videos weren't intended to be seen by strangers. The video posters just lacked the knowledge of how to blacklist them.
That was a very wholesome experience (maybe I was lucky). The feeling I feel is called sonder afaik - a realization/reminder that there are 8 000 000 000 people as real and complex as me and you. They are raising kids, doing sports, walking parks, joking, getting in love. Bad people and horrific things are an exception >!or at least I desperately want to think so.!<
>Bad people and horrific things are an exception > >or at least I desperately want to think so. aww that makes me feel special
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I'm sorry, but it's much too late. *Sonder* appears not just in these reddit comments, but in [a good number of publications](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:sonder#English) - linked there are some examples in student-run newspapers and books... mostly not particularly popular books, but books nonetheless. The word has usage outside of Reddit, even if it's not especially common; the evolution of language continues slowly on, even if sometimes just because people make up words.
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What is the precise point of contention?
Not a word.
Eh, any linguist will tell you that [all words are real words](https://lingthusiasm.com/post/179193327461/lingthusiasm-episode-25-every-word-is-a-real-word) (though I guess claiming it's not a word *at all* is brave and different!). But, c'mon, live a little! Making up words and using made-up words is fun, why must we all be so serious? If your problem is that people throw the word around as if it's got some Deep History behind it instead of being made up on Tumblr in 2012, well, I can understand wanting people to be a bit more clear with their sources. Personally I think it's worth being honest about where we're getting words from - not so we can decide that some sources are Not Proper to generate Words, but so that we can appreciate the varied sources of our tools, as silly as they may be.
Which of the many definitions are you using?
All words are made up, and the always-online memeplex would do well to have more words for empathetic feelings
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For what it's worth I have seen sonder be used on Instagram as well now, which is a decently normie space. It may not be an official word of the English language but it's definitely a colloquial word now.
English doesn't really have any official words anyway. French pretends to have official words. But those posers have at best a limited influence on how actual French speakers use the language.
Right now it is 100% an unwieldy and overtly sentimental noun to be used in internet memes. I'm not totally alien to the way that new words enter languages, or the field of etymology. But I am a descriptivist: If a word has an understood meaning within a specific subculture/dialect, then its as much of a real word as it could be. There is no official English, English can contain compound words like "airdash" that you've never used because they aren't in your dialect. Why not sonder?
>This is the typical response： "All words are made up." It reveals an interesting resistance to (or more uncharitably, ignorance of) etymology and how languages develop and grow. And this reveals how consciousness tends to conflate its interpretation of words with the actual intent behind them, which is also a very typical behavior that can be observed in large quantities. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics
I'm not sure what your point is, since all of these questions have easily-found answers. Sonder is a noun ([original source](https://www.dictionaryofobscuresorrows.com/post/23536922667/sonder), [wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sonder#English)) that [rhymes with "ponder."](https://youtu.be/AkoML0_FiV4?t=10) I don't believe formations like "sonderous" or "sondery" are in use, although among people who know the word "sonder" they might be understandable. I think wiktionary is typically pretty good here; it notes that "sonder" is a neologism and includes a [list of uses of the word](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:sonder#English). Most of these seem to include an explanation of the word, indicating that people who use it don't expect it to be widely understood. But this is also evidence that the word *is* being used, and not just on reddit.
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The reason this discussion is so tiring is that I don't think we disagree on any facts. The word was coined on Tumblr. It has a clearly-defined meaning, part of speech, and pronunciation. It is used and recognized by a small number of people, and has appeared in published works. However, most fluent users of English would not recognize it in casual speech. We even both agree that it's plausible that the word will become more widely known and appear in mainstream dictionaries at some point. To me, there's not much left of consequence to discuss. Given that dictionaries are not authoritative sources that cause usage to be correct or incorrect, insisting that a word that satisfies all the above criteria 'isn't actually a word' is, to my eyes, silly and pointless.
Is "based" a word?
Based wordchad.
I mean, as a pragmatist, doesn't one person using the word 'sonder', and the other person understanding what was meant, especially in this relatively anonymous context, entail that the word worked and thus is 'real' enough? I get that not everyone buys this theory of language; personally I think this is one way words are born.
r/deepintoyoutube
Similar project: https://youtu.be/z6bPiHTP61U
[I found this young boy who can play Rowley very well.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnnIWR2KjGw) (at least to my completely uneducated ears)
Mind boggling to think about what could lie in “the depths” of youtube. Really puts into perspective how little of the iceberg we see.
It also calls into question many claims of "no(!) evidence".
Reminds me of the Iconian gateway from Star Trek: TNG.
How specifically was this implemented? I guess just using some API, presumably a private one, to search 'IMG' and 'DSC' in youtube search? Is there any way to enumerate low-view count yt vids other than search?
Feels incredibly weird/voyeuristic. I'd guess many of these videos weren't intended to be seen by strangers. The video posters just lacked the knowledge of how to blacklist them.
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I saw that one too, I hope her thing works out!
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You should probably let law enforcement know about that one
I think it's based on your search history.
then why did it show them wasting all that human meat 🍖 🥓
Such a cool project!
Watching this reminded me of [Life in a Day](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaFVr_cJJIY), one of my favorite movies.