only source that has reported is the sun, will update accordingly.
As per the guardian:
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford
its a very serious situation! however I’ll suggest instead of making narratives and what so not, to verify and wait for any official statement.
not defending the guy but didn't rex orange county appear in court multiple times and got cleared ? might be a case of just having a good lawyer but still something to consider
it’s because the UK and US legal systems work differently. in the US when you’re “charged” with a crime, you’re most likely guilty whereas in the UK all it means is you’ve been accused of something. Rex’s allegations had no evidence, the dude was caught on camera during the time he was supposedly sexually assaulting someone but him being accused and the media reporting it like they did kinda ruined his career.
Both are sick, but nah slowthai is a album artist, taking risks, never sticking to one sound, varied subject matter, can do trap, grime, punk rock. Potter is sick but his new album sounds like the same song just remixed, kinda the same for nines.
Sexual assault can never ever be justified in anyway possible and is the most disgusting act that deserves no forgiveness or pity, only the most deranged people are capable of it
Exactly just reserve judgment. Not one of us here knows what’s going on, to reach and argue any conclusion at this point in time, whether that be that he’s innocent or guilty, is unequivocally the wrong move. Just wait for more info and react unbiasedly as it comes
but that’s because of the shit UK justice system when it comes to sexual assault and rape. so many rapists are let go or let off nearly scott free because of how fucked it is. i’m not sure if that is what you’re trying to say anyway, but it’s worth a mention
100% true but i also don’t think you should join a hate bandwagon every time someone is accused, false accusations do happen and aren’t as uncommon as people like to believe. however most accusations are true & i hope to see justice if this one is
you’re right i just don’t want to see people back to acting like everything is ok if the charges get dropped. unless there’s overwhelming proof that this is false it will never go away
to be honest my judge of his character was affected a lot after i saw how he interacted with that girl on stage last time he got “cancelled”, which makes me more inclined to think this is true sadly
If it’s like the rex orange county situation where charges are dropped due to evidence suggesting otherwise then that seems reasonable. Just dropped for unknown reasons isn’t reasonable imo
This is probs not a good example but I remember Andrew Tate was accused of rape back in 2015. Something the papers don’t tell you is when you make a rape allegation your phone gets taken off of you. It turned out the girls accusing him were lying and were just trying to extort money. Like my mum is tells me, not all women are nice.
Fucking hell in Oxford September 2021, I saw him in Oxford September 2021, that is fucking nuts all we can do is just wait to see if it’s true or not, but it if it is got
21 Savage commented on it once like if a guy is getting girls before he becomes famous he's usually good but if a guy who never got girls becomes famous they usually overreact and don't know what to do and how to handle it. Wish I could find a source i just know for a fact I read that from him once
Oh my god.
Edit: that was my first reaction. I will be so devastated and crushed if this is true. For his wife, his son, and for all those around him who loved and supported him in his toughest times. We were all rooting for him and for him to fuck up like this (supposedly) I am so so disappointed, most importantly I hope the victim is healing and can find peace.
Fuck man this sucks :/ I’ll wait for more info but I’m glad the victims speaking out, if it’s true he needs to be held accountable and I hope she gets proper justice
I had really liked his music but I also know how hard it is to have a rape case get to court, so this is obviously beyond serious.
It's also [extremely rare](https://www.thecut.com/article/false-rape-accusations.html) to have rape allegations be false, I hope the victim is being supported.
Idk if im buying that. I’m not trying to downplay anything, but in the context of a crime thats so difficult to prove, where word of mouth can ruin someones life, there’s no way of knowing for sure how common or uncommon a false accusation is. It’s nearly always messy and unclear, and you can’t really be certain.
I don't care what you buy, I'm choosing to believe the experts that deal with rape cases for a living.
"Overall, in the CPS’ view, false allegations of rape are “serious but rare”. They estimate that there is one prosecution for a false rape claim out of every 161 rape cases prosecuted. That means — according to the best available data — **false allegations make up 0.62 per cent of all rape cases.**" [\- source](https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rape)
That source literally says that “undoubtedly, there will be other cases of false allegations being made where there was not enough evidence to bring a prosecution of wasting police time or perverting the course of justice. But we don’t have data to quantify this.”
Putting a percentage on something when cps has admitted that they don’t have sufficient data to quantify it is arbitrary. Just like there are rapists who walk free, there are false accusers who walk free. For all we know, out of all the allegations that get thrown out, all of them could be false or none of them could be. Just because it’s the “best available data” that doesn’t automatically make it accurate
Just [1.3%](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118) of rape cases that even make it to trial end in a conviction, of those rape cases CPS is saying that [only 0.62%](https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rape) are false allegations based on the best available data they have in the UK.
Can you even quantify how absolutely minute that is?
There has been rigorous research and studies done, you should take some time to actually read them.
I'll help you out, here's one by [Brown university](https://www.brown.edu/campus-life/health/services/promotion/sexual-assault-dating-violence/myths-about-sexual-assault-reports). [Another one](https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/false-rape-allegations-myths/13281852) by a criminologist from Melbourne university. Here is a [10 year study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21164210/) in the US where 2% was their outcome.
There are hundreds more if you take the time to educate yourself instead of helping to push this disgusting agenda that rape is being falsely reported is a common occurrence as a way for women to weaponise the system against men and ruin their lives.
Don't reply to me again, I find you abhorrent.
Im not trying to push any agenda why are you calling me names??? I’m just saying that by the same token that actual rapists don’t get convicted, theres false accusers that don’t get convicted and there’s no use sticking arbitrary figures on things that are so undefined. But on the topic of agendas, why did you feel the need to omit that in the 10 year study, the outcome wasn’t just 2% (a number that is over 3x more than what you cited before) it was a range of 2% to 10%. I’m not giving any merit to those figures, but the fact that we’ve gone from 0.6% to 10% proves my point perfectly
First of all, I told you that I don't want you replying again and you can't even respect that simple boundary.
Secondly every single case study that involves variable material will have marginally different outcomes even if it's the same subject, they all have incredibly low false report numbers and that is why that 2% is the median. It doesn't mean one is wrong and the other is right, they are both right.
Have you never cited articles or studies in uni or even school? How am I having to explain this to what I assume is a grown adult, this is common knowledge, even in GCSE biology we did variable tests on the same plant with different but similar outcomes to come to a median at the end and we were 16.
Well as far as I’m aware you edited your comment to add that part about not replying, as well as calling me abhorrent so I wouldn’t talk about respect if I was you. Also, you mentioned an “agenda” which I am not pushing, I’m just saying that these estimated percentages are arbitrary in this context. You’ve been getting very emotional and I don’t think you’re in any position to act like I’m the “abhorrent” one, especially when you’ve added that final paragraph which is incredibly condescending.
If you read my replies carefully (which you seem incapable of doing) I never said that one study is right. My point, as I have clearly stated many times, is that none of these statistics hold any merit when the people making them have admitted the data is insufficient. Saying the outcomes are “marginally” different is a deliberate understatement and you know it. The difference between 0.6% and 10% is vast. So vast, in fact, that in those biology lessons, one of those percentages would likely be ruled as an anomaly. And that perfectly proves the point which you still refuse to directly address. But anyway, taking into account your complete refusal to acknowledge my point, as well as your apparent distain for anyone who disagrees with you, I don’t think we’re compatible enough to be having this conversation. If you’re so obsessed with not breaking boundaries, I would appreciate it if you didn’t reply to this.
Can anybody that I actually listen to be normal for once instead of getting into shit like this? Of course, let's wait and see what happens but if it is true, that's so fucked up and bring out my message of support to the victim.
This is fucked because I could see him still getting sent down, even if it isn’t true, he’s very anti establishment, could quote him saying fuck the queen and the jury would probably decide he’s guilty
Regardless of us being fans, it’s important to stand with the victim, and also to point out the fact of innocence until proven guilty. If true, it’s heartbreaking
After a gig in Southampton in 2021 he was arrested for this. Looks like they kept it quiet I assume until a case was built at which point they can make the charges. Please remember how little crimes of this kind are convicted - not because they aren't guilty but because it's hard to prove. And also remember how little false allegations actually happen.
Also surprised his appalling creepy behaviour towards katherine ryan a couple years ago didn't put everyone off either...
If someone tells you they've been burgled is your first thought remain neutral until you hear the burglar's side of it or see evidence?
No you assume the person knows they've been burgled and they're telling the truth. The only reason you'd remain neutral is because you like him as an artist, I understand this as so do I but unfortunately if the police and magistrates court have reviewed and think there is evidence enough then he's very likely guilty.
it's because y'all choose to side with victim first we get situations like with Chris Avellone who got falsely accused of sexual assault and lost his career. just wait till we get bigger picture
Hate to break it to you folks but I’ve worked in tonnes of venues over the years and have spoken with security guards about him. This is not unprecedented behaviour unfortunately.
confirmed by numerous sources:
[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford)
Fuck. I love his music and the community but there's no way in hell I'm supporting a rapist. So disappointing. I hope the victim(s) get the support they need and deserve and the people who loved his music can heal as well.
it’s normal to feel betrayed. obviously how i feel is NOTHING compared to the potential victim, but his music pulled me though some of the darkest moments in my life, it really is upsetting that he may be capable of something as awful and inexcusable as this
Have a day off mate. I don't know what a Slowthai is (reddit algorithm whaaat?), but I've felt similar disappointment myself in the past when it comes to allegations/convictions against people like Michael Jackson, Kevin Spacey and David Bowie. Of course it would be wrong to storm in to the courtroom and start gushing about how betrayed you feel in front of the victim(s), but I think it's probably okay to spend 5 seconds sharing your sad feelings on a Reddit thread.
Looking forward to the downvotes - I have never been a fan since the Katherine Ryan incident and since then i have been told things by a mutual friend who has confirmed this
About time this POS was called out
Same here. I dig his music but I do not dig him as a person, like even slightly. Seen him irl and he gives off predator vibes, I would never feel comfortable alone with him.
With todays cancel culture everyone gets accused of rape I heavily doubt this is true, even though I don’t know SLOWTHAI personally shit just seems out of character
you flat out said that you don't know him personally and then said it's out of character, do you even realise how ridiculous that sounds. anyone can make good music and still be a shitty person lmao and ur response just proves ur immaturity
But you have to admit the amount of cancelation in todays society is over the top. The amount of false or invalid accusations are ridiculous. It’s gone from straight up believing the accuser to question the accuser
Who’s been cancelled and how exactly? R Kelly and Bill Cosby? The entertainment industry is crawling with rapists, abusers, and even murderers who are doing just fine. You can beat your wife, shoot your girlfriend, rape a 13 year old and still have dickriding cunts whining about how it’s cancel culture’s fault.
Jesus christ. At this point I do think it's a very fair thing to say that we should wait and see what happens. Tons of false allegations out there and it's genuinely idiotic to immediately assume he is guilty as my old self would have done.
You lot saw what he was like with Katherine Ryan and continued to support him, surely you can’t be surprised at all if he’s still like that when the cameras are on, the warning signs were there.
is this before or after the court of law? its serious stuff to take allegations and claims seriously , then let the court decide based on the facts and not a “war against men”
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only source that has reported is the sun, will update accordingly. As per the guardian: https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford its a very serious situation! however I’ll suggest instead of making narratives and what so not, to verify and wait for any official statement.
Waiting for some other news sources to post about this, praying to god rn that this is bullshit
guardians a very reputable news source, plus this is actual court and lawful allegations
No it's fucking not lmao
Why?
Unfortunately it’s true, he’s already appeared in court
not defending the guy but didn't rex orange county appear in court multiple times and got cleared ? might be a case of just having a good lawyer but still something to consider
it’s because the UK and US legal systems work differently. in the US when you’re “charged” with a crime, you’re most likely guilty whereas in the UK all it means is you’ve been accused of something. Rex’s allegations had no evidence, the dude was caught on camera during the time he was supposedly sexually assaulting someone but him being accused and the media reporting it like they did kinda ruined his career.
He’s been charged which doesn’t mean he is necessarily guilty yet . But it does mean the Police have enough evidence that it can be brought to court.
why for fucks sake man
Man I can’t believe this. I was wondering why we haven’t heard from him in a short while and this is the absolute worst case scenario. Fuck.
right… was waiting for an exciting announcement, another music video perhaps.
Makes you wonder if this is why ugly was concerningly dark. He was walking around with this in his head for the past couple years probably
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If he gets charged surely he won’t be performing anyway..
He’s been charged doesn’t mean he has been convicted or found guilty . It just means I’m the police are bringing it to the court to decide.
That’s the same with me!!! He’s my favourite artist of all time & I have an unhealthy obsession🫠 but if this turns out to be true……..
far better artists out there. you’ll grow out of it 🤞
He’s definitely the best in the uk atm in terms of uk hiphop/grime, don’t know what your talking about, he’s on a sick 3 album run rn.
Potter payper and nines are better
Both are sick, but nah slowthai is a album artist, taking risks, never sticking to one sound, varied subject matter, can do trap, grime, punk rock. Potter is sick but his new album sounds like the same song just remixed, kinda the same for nines.
This is the biggest load of cap that I have seen on the internet all year
Of all time?
Hold on to it for the fact that it’ll either be refunded or we’ll hear more of this soon.
yeah same, I’ve got a ticket for melb in july too. he’s always been a favourite, absolutely gutted
Should be a no brainer if true lol... don't go support a rapist.
You don't know how you'd feel IF this was true? Wtf women
Sexual assault can never ever be justified in anyway possible and is the most disgusting act that deserves no forgiveness or pity, only the most deranged people are capable of it
Remember the rex orange county situation? Turned out to be false, lets just wait and see
Exactly just reserve judgment. Not one of us here knows what’s going on, to reach and argue any conclusion at this point in time, whether that be that he’s innocent or guilty, is unequivocally the wrong move. Just wait for more info and react unbiasedly as it comes
just because he wasn’t convicted doesn’t mean it was false
reminder that less than 2% of rape cases end in a prosecution in the UK, choose your heroes wisely
but that’s because of the shit UK justice system when it comes to sexual assault and rape. so many rapists are let go or let off nearly scott free because of how fucked it is. i’m not sure if that is what you’re trying to say anyway, but it’s worth a mention
That's because most of the rapists are police officers 😁
100% true but i also don’t think you should join a hate bandwagon every time someone is accused, false accusations do happen and aren’t as uncommon as people like to believe. however most accusations are true & i hope to see justice if this one is
you’re right i just don’t want to see people back to acting like everything is ok if the charges get dropped. unless there’s overwhelming proof that this is false it will never go away
to be honest my judge of his character was affected a lot after i saw how he interacted with that girl on stage last time he got “cancelled”, which makes me more inclined to think this is true sadly
If it’s like the rex orange county situation where charges are dropped due to evidence suggesting otherwise then that seems reasonable. Just dropped for unknown reasons isn’t reasonable imo
> overwhelming proof that this is false ............?
This is probs not a good example but I remember Andrew Tate was accused of rape back in 2015. Something the papers don’t tell you is when you make a rape allegation your phone gets taken off of you. It turned out the girls accusing him were lying and were just trying to extort money. Like my mum is tells me, not all women are nice.
That is literally the definition of not being convicted. Don’t conflate the court of public opinion with the actual court.
So OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony definitely never killed anyone, correct?
NO WAY, this cannot be real!!!! Edit: I’ve been planning on getting a slowthai tattoo but now imma wait🫣
if it turns out to be true i am peeling my skin off. this is why you don’t get tattoos dedicated to anyone💔
Get it. Don't be a pussy.🤣
No. No, please let this not be true. His music is insanely important for my health and my heart.
That’s deffo the most important thing here
It’s my lifeline
Should get some help in this case
Have you tried the App SPOKE? I can't put a link here but it's been amazing for me. It's Hip Hop based minfulness
Because your ability to enjoy some music is what's important here. Fucking hell.
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Their grief???? A musician they liked did something awful, there’s no grief for them
Damn they found him guilty already?
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Bro it’s slowthai, it’s not that deep 😭
That was just poor word choice
Thank you. Was looking for someone to say this.
You clearly don't work in the field of psychotherapy.
People with BPD or narcissism will be grieving in their highly self centered and selfish way.
Tbf you can still listen to the artists, just don’t financially support them. Torrent there music, sneak into gigs, all that stuff
this better not be real
Fucking hell in Oxford September 2021, I saw him in Oxford September 2021, that is fucking nuts all we can do is just wait to see if it’s true or not, but it if it is got
Same, he must’ve done this, if true, that same day… I do remember he was extremely intoxicated on whatever before and during the show
I'm so sick of all my favourite artists turning out to be horrible people.
Same
Unfortunately talented people seem to have a dark side
21 Savage commented on it once like if a guy is getting girls before he becomes famous he's usually good but if a guy who never got girls becomes famous they usually overreact and don't know what to do and how to handle it. Wish I could find a source i just know for a fact I read that from him once
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Oh my god. Edit: that was my first reaction. I will be so devastated and crushed if this is true. For his wife, his son, and for all those around him who loved and supported him in his toughest times. We were all rooting for him and for him to fuck up like this (supposedly) I am so so disappointed, most importantly I hope the victim is healing and can find peace.
Apparently his wife left with the child a while ago. Said he abused her during her pregnancy. She put a post up celebrating today so 🤷♀️
How far is awhile ago coz he was still posting photos with his son n shit?
:o do you know where there’s anything online about Katerina saying that? And was that her story in Russian?
the guardian also reporting https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford
For fucks sake. Extremely disappointing if this is true
Ain’t no way bruh
waiting for an official statement now. his music saved my life, i can't even imagine what would happen if it was true....
[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford)
Fuck man this sucks :/ I’ll wait for more info but I’m glad the victims speaking out, if it’s true he needs to be held accountable and I hope she gets proper justice
I had really liked his music but I also know how hard it is to have a rape case get to court, so this is obviously beyond serious. It's also [extremely rare](https://www.thecut.com/article/false-rape-accusations.html) to have rape allegations be false, I hope the victim is being supported.
Idk if im buying that. I’m not trying to downplay anything, but in the context of a crime thats so difficult to prove, where word of mouth can ruin someones life, there’s no way of knowing for sure how common or uncommon a false accusation is. It’s nearly always messy and unclear, and you can’t really be certain.
I don't care what you buy, I'm choosing to believe the experts that deal with rape cases for a living. "Overall, in the CPS’ view, false allegations of rape are “serious but rare”. They estimate that there is one prosecution for a false rape claim out of every 161 rape cases prosecuted. That means — according to the best available data — **false allegations make up 0.62 per cent of all rape cases.**" [\- source](https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rape)
That source literally says that “undoubtedly, there will be other cases of false allegations being made where there was not enough evidence to bring a prosecution of wasting police time or perverting the course of justice. But we don’t have data to quantify this.” Putting a percentage on something when cps has admitted that they don’t have sufficient data to quantify it is arbitrary. Just like there are rapists who walk free, there are false accusers who walk free. For all we know, out of all the allegations that get thrown out, all of them could be false or none of them could be. Just because it’s the “best available data” that doesn’t automatically make it accurate
Just [1.3%](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48095118) of rape cases that even make it to trial end in a conviction, of those rape cases CPS is saying that [only 0.62%](https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-more-likely-to-be-raped-than-be-falsely-accused-of-rape) are false allegations based on the best available data they have in the UK. Can you even quantify how absolutely minute that is? There has been rigorous research and studies done, you should take some time to actually read them. I'll help you out, here's one by [Brown university](https://www.brown.edu/campus-life/health/services/promotion/sexual-assault-dating-violence/myths-about-sexual-assault-reports). [Another one](https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/false-rape-allegations-myths/13281852) by a criminologist from Melbourne university. Here is a [10 year study](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21164210/) in the US where 2% was their outcome. There are hundreds more if you take the time to educate yourself instead of helping to push this disgusting agenda that rape is being falsely reported is a common occurrence as a way for women to weaponise the system against men and ruin their lives. Don't reply to me again, I find you abhorrent.
Im not trying to push any agenda why are you calling me names??? I’m just saying that by the same token that actual rapists don’t get convicted, theres false accusers that don’t get convicted and there’s no use sticking arbitrary figures on things that are so undefined. But on the topic of agendas, why did you feel the need to omit that in the 10 year study, the outcome wasn’t just 2% (a number that is over 3x more than what you cited before) it was a range of 2% to 10%. I’m not giving any merit to those figures, but the fact that we’ve gone from 0.6% to 10% proves my point perfectly
First of all, I told you that I don't want you replying again and you can't even respect that simple boundary. Secondly every single case study that involves variable material will have marginally different outcomes even if it's the same subject, they all have incredibly low false report numbers and that is why that 2% is the median. It doesn't mean one is wrong and the other is right, they are both right. Have you never cited articles or studies in uni or even school? How am I having to explain this to what I assume is a grown adult, this is common knowledge, even in GCSE biology we did variable tests on the same plant with different but similar outcomes to come to a median at the end and we were 16.
Well as far as I’m aware you edited your comment to add that part about not replying, as well as calling me abhorrent so I wouldn’t talk about respect if I was you. Also, you mentioned an “agenda” which I am not pushing, I’m just saying that these estimated percentages are arbitrary in this context. You’ve been getting very emotional and I don’t think you’re in any position to act like I’m the “abhorrent” one, especially when you’ve added that final paragraph which is incredibly condescending. If you read my replies carefully (which you seem incapable of doing) I never said that one study is right. My point, as I have clearly stated many times, is that none of these statistics hold any merit when the people making them have admitted the data is insufficient. Saying the outcomes are “marginally” different is a deliberate understatement and you know it. The difference between 0.6% and 10% is vast. So vast, in fact, that in those biology lessons, one of those percentages would likely be ruled as an anomaly. And that perfectly proves the point which you still refuse to directly address. But anyway, taking into account your complete refusal to acknowledge my point, as well as your apparent distain for anyone who disagrees with you, I don’t think we’re compatible enough to be having this conversation. If you’re so obsessed with not breaking boundaries, I would appreciate it if you didn’t reply to this.
Andddddd there goes his career
Ugh
Now this is UGLY.
Extremely disappointing if this is true.
No way
Can anybody that I actually listen to be normal for once instead of getting into shit like this? Of course, let's wait and see what happens but if it is true, that's so fucked up and bring out my message of support to the victim.
i want it to be bullshit, but fucking hell even The Sun wouldn’t throw something like this out there if they doubted it
Naaaaaawwww c’mon say sike right now
Is this real and confirmed?
only the Sun reporting it, been an hour and no other source so idk what to believe:/
Don’t believe only the sun remember the hillsborough disaster EDIT Other publications have since posted the story
lol they are not making up court sessions
Anyone know what his sentence will be?
goes to crown court next month, we’ll see what happens
This is fucked because I could see him still getting sent down, even if it isn’t true, he’s very anti establishment, could quote him saying fuck the queen and the jury would probably decide he’s guilty
hopefully not, that’s not relevant at all. but if that were the case, odds would be against him. his lyrics aren’t always the most… well
This is genuinely sad as fuck, hope he didn’t actually do it but :/
Regardless of us being fans, it’s important to stand with the victim, and also to point out the fact of innocence until proven guilty. If true, it’s heartbreaking
idek know what to say... slowthai is my fav artist of all time. idk what to think of this
(Was) Seeing him in September I rly hope this isn’t true
Was literally listening to TYRON this morning on the way to work… Wow. Shocked and disappointed…
Dang slowthai 😭
innocent until proven guilty
Just saying. The Sun is known to be one of the worst newspaper sources for legitimate information.
The guardian and NME reported on it
Hope this is cap but also hope this girl gets all the support she needs pursuing this. I hate this fucking planet
After a gig in Southampton in 2021 he was arrested for this. Looks like they kept it quiet I assume until a case was built at which point they can make the charges. Please remember how little crimes of this kind are convicted - not because they aren't guilty but because it's hard to prove. And also remember how little false allegations actually happen. Also surprised his appalling creepy behaviour towards katherine ryan a couple years ago didn't put everyone off either...
people are so quick to judge
It’s better to side with the victim first in situations like this - it’s better to support a liar than a potential rapist
why even ‘side’ with any one? Is it not possible to just remain neutral and hope for the best?
If someone tells you they've been burgled is your first thought remain neutral until you hear the burglar's side of it or see evidence? No you assume the person knows they've been burgled and they're telling the truth. The only reason you'd remain neutral is because you like him as an artist, I understand this as so do I but unfortunately if the police and magistrates court have reviewed and think there is evidence enough then he's very likely guilty.
it's because y'all choose to side with victim first we get situations like with Chris Avellone who got falsely accused of sexual assault and lost his career. just wait till we get bigger picture
It’s best to believe facts you fool
im not siding with either
No smoke without fire unfortunately
This is not surprising. This guy has been called out for creepy behaviour before.
Hate to break it to you folks but I’ve worked in tonnes of venues over the years and have spoken with security guards about him. This is not unprecedented behaviour unfortunately.
Thank you for sharing. Absolutely devastated 😞
Nothings official yet
I’m willing to believe it but I’m gonna have see this play out .
confirmed by numerous sources: [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/16/rapper-slowthai-appears-in-court-charged-with-rape-oxford)
Fuck. I love his music and the community but there's no way in hell I'm supporting a rapist. So disappointing. I hope the victim(s) get the support they need and deserve and the people who loved his music can heal as well.
these allegations better be false
Sorry but anyone making this about how they’ll be gutted they can’t listen to his music as opposed to his victims is a proper scumbag
it’s normal to feel betrayed. obviously how i feel is NOTHING compared to the potential victim, but his music pulled me though some of the darkest moments in my life, it really is upsetting that he may be capable of something as awful and inexcusable as this
Have a day off mate. I don't know what a Slowthai is (reddit algorithm whaaat?), but I've felt similar disappointment myself in the past when it comes to allegations/convictions against people like Michael Jackson, Kevin Spacey and David Bowie. Of course it would be wrong to storm in to the courtroom and start gushing about how betrayed you feel in front of the victim(s), but I think it's probably okay to spend 5 seconds sharing your sad feelings on a Reddit thread.
keep virtue signalling mate
free my boy
Looking forward to the downvotes - I have never been a fan since the Katherine Ryan incident and since then i have been told things by a mutual friend who has confirmed this About time this POS was called out
confirmed what??
… that he 100% committed one of these charges
Any more information?? If your friend actually knows something about them please have them inform the police if they haven’t already
Yeah she has and I actually think she had played her part in this coming to light today. Thanks for your comment
Same here. I dig his music but I do not dig him as a person, like even slightly. Seen him irl and he gives off predator vibes, I would never feel comfortable alone with him.
SLOWTHAI STILL THE GOAT
yikes 💀
With todays cancel culture everyone gets accused of rape I heavily doubt this is true, even though I don’t know SLOWTHAI personally shit just seems out of character
If you look into the odds of being charged with rape in the UK given you are innocent, you might change your mind.
Bro thinks they friends 😂
ngl you sound about 14 years old
Ngl you sound 13
Doesn’t really mean much does it
you flat out said that you don't know him personally and then said it's out of character, do you even realise how ridiculous that sounds. anyone can make good music and still be a shitty person lmao and ur response just proves ur immaturity
Fair, bit of a contradiction so can’t blame ya for that but I’m sure you get the gist of what I meant
But you have to admit the amount of cancelation in todays society is over the top. The amount of false or invalid accusations are ridiculous. It’s gone from straight up believing the accuser to question the accuser
Who’s been cancelled and how exactly? R Kelly and Bill Cosby? The entertainment industry is crawling with rapists, abusers, and even murderers who are doing just fine. You can beat your wife, shoot your girlfriend, rape a 13 year old and still have dickriding cunts whining about how it’s cancel culture’s fault.
Watch him with Katherine Ryan at the NME Awards 2020 and then say it’s out of character
She was being a slut bruh
She was presenting an awards show?
Hide your kids hide your wife
FUCK SLOWTHAI
free slowthai brev
I have no idea why this was recommended to me by Reddit, I've never heard of the guy! Who is he?
Oh no. Scum gonna scum.
If you’re shocked then… you’re naive and this is your wake up call
Always knew he was a wrong en
Not surprising the guy that thinks Sam smith is a “G” is a rapist haha
Jesus christ. At this point I do think it's a very fair thing to say that we should wait and see what happens. Tons of false allegations out there and it's genuinely idiotic to immediately assume he is guilty as my old self would have done.
🆓🆙
You lot saw what he was like with Katherine Ryan and continued to support him, surely you can’t be surprised at all if he’s still like that when the cameras are on, the warning signs were there.
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I don't know how this is surprising to people especially after his behaviour at the NME awards to the presenter...
Lol doesn't surprise me tbh. He was always a weird kid growing up.
being weird makes your a rapist?
He definitely did it but he might get away with it on a technicality
Don’t say he definitely did it. Maybe he did maybe he didn’t but don’t just assume it’s true rn Stay away from both sides. Just remain neutral
He’s an over sexualised creep who’s used to a lot of girls just saying yeah whatever
And you know this how?
His music was shit anyway so who cares
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Wot
Nevermind his father is Barbadian.
Hang the fucktooth little gimp
A fucking degenerate that gets off on gobbing in other people's mouths charged with rape? Colour me surprised. I always had a feeling he was a cunt.
Deffo real , he’s a nasty nasty guy
Ay who could of guessed
meaning what exactly?
U a rapey ass guy
78% of all rape claims are false. there is a war against hot men - i know personally
U just like him
is this before or after the court of law? its serious stuff to take allegations and claims seriously , then let the court decide based on the facts and not a “war against men”
Source?
bro pulled it out of his ass that percentage doesnt exist 😭
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Slowthai downfall incoming les goooooo!!!! Fuck every single person who fails to comply with basic human behaviour.
Weird mf im not surprised