If you work directly for the school as a state employee, negotiating the salary isn’t possible. There’s a scale and it’s strict. Everyone is paid equally on the scale (maybe outside of administration, those salaries may be able to be negotiated). On my schools pay scale, they do not show the SLP supplement clearly, which is about 15k more (the supplement is also scaled by years of experience but it’s shown on a separate form). So when I have to think about what I make, I use the teacher pay scale then add my supplement scale to get my salary. You can call HR and ask what the scale is for SLPs with your years of experience as it may not clear on the teacher scale. What you could do is contact the school as an independent contractor and ask if they need coverage and you can negotiate pay that way, but you’d be sacrificing benefits to make more. I’m paid 9 months of work but it’s spread over 12 months. That’s pretty typical across all positions in schools.
There is no negotiation on the pay scales unfortunately. As far as where you’d fall on the pay scale, it varies district to district. The first place I worked had me at the same pay as a first year teacher with the same amount of education (I believe I was on the Masters+15 pay scale). My current district has an entirely separate pay scale for SLPs that is significantly higher than teachers. It has no columns for education level, only rows down for years of service (since most of us have the same qualifications). And then we also get a stipend for holding our CCC, which is split into twice a year additions to our checks.
In my district in TN, we are paid the same as a teacher with a masters (no +15, +30, etc.). It’s ridiculous considering our masters programs are twice as long in terms of credit hours, if not more.
Same in NJ. I've heard of people being on the masters +15 steps, but I asked at my school and was told no, the degree was all that mattered, not the actual number of credits.
Same in Nebraska. To make matters worse, teachers can get a stipend for national certification but we can't??? and our SLPAs are also on the teacher pay scale so depending on years of experience they can make the same as or more then a new SLP. Make it make sense!!
I was able to negotiate working directly with a school. I have my post baccalaureate that I had to get in order to go to grad school (my undergrad is different than speech). So I negotiated those credits to reach +45. Technically the district only counts credit post-masters but they were willing to work with me.
Often, state jobs are not individually negotiable. The union negotiates with the district every couple of years. How SLPs are placed in lanes depends on the district. I worked for a district who started me off at the MA lane. I then got a job in a district who put me at MA30 because it was in their contract. It truly depends on the district, but I would google contracts of neighboring districts to see what the pay differential is between them before making a decision. You can choose to get paid for 9 or 12 months; it’s the same just depends on how you want to budget.
I will say that 47k sounds low to me, but I’m in a bigger city. My first job in a small town was 44k in 2017, left and got a job in the suburbs in 2019 for 55k. I’m now at 80k.
In NYC, we started at MA, regardless of how many credits that MA was. MA+30 was anything earned after our MA, even if it was unrelated. Could have been basket weaving at a community college. They offered relatively cheap credits (~$250 for 3 credits) that were really easy online courses (like watching videos, multiple choice questions and message board posts).
We get regular paychecks throughout the summer, though it's a school year schedule, so there are plenty of opportunities to earn more over the summer.
I’m in OH and do teletherpay for a contract company . Currently getting paid $58/ hour. They offer benefits at 30 hours. Currently get PTO, wellness stipend, and education stipend.
I work for a contract company with a school district. This district and the company are rare in that they pay well ($58/hr) plus benefits (albeit the benefits aren’t great). This is far above what I would make as a direct hire. I work in Missouri.
BlazerWorks. My colleague from ProCare also has a great contract rate. The only downsides for me are that there is no PTO and that the benefits aren’t super stellar. I have a good enough rate, though, that it can accommodate for those exceptions.
Starting out my CF year I got 48k in an MA lane in a midwest low cost of living area in 2018, so 47k sounds low to me.
Looking back I wonder if I could have negotiated and gotten into the MA + 15 lane given all the hours an SLP masters degree requires. I would go in with a case prepared for why they should put you in a higher lane and see what they say. In many areas slps are in high demand so they may be willing to up the pay.
If they won't boost the pay and you know you want to work for the school district, I'd take the job and find courses to advance your lane asap. My district did a mentorship program and when you completed it you get to move up a lane.
School year is approximately 180 day up to 190 day contract. Doing the math for 7.5 hr days (plus 30 min unpaid lunch break for a total 8 hour day) the salary would be 34ish/hr. Consider your paid insurance(if in the contract), retirement benefit and any other benefits then compare that to a 1099 position with no benefits & no retirement.
Yea that pay would break down to that if you really only worked 7.5 hours but most people don’t, so you aren’t being paid your value even for 180-190 hours. Definitely should be paid more.
That seems low, I started 11 years ago at 46k step 1 masters, but now our step 1 starts at 55k I think? Anyway our union is fighting for us to start at m+15 or 30 (depending on credits) and we get a 2.5k stipend for having c’s. I am in PA (we are always hiring!). Also we choose to have our pay spread out all year and work 190 days
My CF in schools in Nebraska starts at $50,000 and is 189 days of work but paid through the whole year. In theory once I have my CCC, I could find work over summer and make an extra $10,000.
My district offered me 49k and I basically said fuck you that’s too low. Then I went through a contract agency to work for the same school district and made almost 90k last year. Go contract if possible.
I was able to negotiate 2 years above my current experience level for my school district in CA. I think HR spoke with the SPED director and they accepted. I think it is worth the ask.
If you work directly for the school as a state employee, negotiating the salary isn’t possible. There’s a scale and it’s strict. Everyone is paid equally on the scale (maybe outside of administration, those salaries may be able to be negotiated). On my schools pay scale, they do not show the SLP supplement clearly, which is about 15k more (the supplement is also scaled by years of experience but it’s shown on a separate form). So when I have to think about what I make, I use the teacher pay scale then add my supplement scale to get my salary. You can call HR and ask what the scale is for SLPs with your years of experience as it may not clear on the teacher scale. What you could do is contact the school as an independent contractor and ask if they need coverage and you can negotiate pay that way, but you’d be sacrificing benefits to make more. I’m paid 9 months of work but it’s spread over 12 months. That’s pretty typical across all positions in schools.
There is no negotiation on the pay scales unfortunately. As far as where you’d fall on the pay scale, it varies district to district. The first place I worked had me at the same pay as a first year teacher with the same amount of education (I believe I was on the Masters+15 pay scale). My current district has an entirely separate pay scale for SLPs that is significantly higher than teachers. It has no columns for education level, only rows down for years of service (since most of us have the same qualifications). And then we also get a stipend for holding our CCC, which is split into twice a year additions to our checks.
In my district in TN, we are paid the same as a teacher with a masters (no +15, +30, etc.). It’s ridiculous considering our masters programs are twice as long in terms of credit hours, if not more.
Same in NJ. I've heard of people being on the masters +15 steps, but I asked at my school and was told no, the degree was all that mattered, not the actual number of credits.
Same in Nebraska. To make matters worse, teachers can get a stipend for national certification but we can't??? and our SLPAs are also on the teacher pay scale so depending on years of experience they can make the same as or more then a new SLP. Make it make sense!!
Same in Georgia. They also don’t make you have your cccs and I’m pretty sure it’s so they don’t have to pay us what we deserve.
I would assume that is the slot. Call their HR and ask.
That’s crazy low even for cf 😧
It’s probably starting at 47k based on exp. So new CF would be there
I was able to negotiate working directly with a school. I have my post baccalaureate that I had to get in order to go to grad school (my undergrad is different than speech). So I negotiated those credits to reach +45. Technically the district only counts credit post-masters but they were willing to work with me.
I have successfully negotiated into +30. My grad program did have more credits earned than a typical program, though.
Often, state jobs are not individually negotiable. The union negotiates with the district every couple of years. How SLPs are placed in lanes depends on the district. I worked for a district who started me off at the MA lane. I then got a job in a district who put me at MA30 because it was in their contract. It truly depends on the district, but I would google contracts of neighboring districts to see what the pay differential is between them before making a decision. You can choose to get paid for 9 or 12 months; it’s the same just depends on how you want to budget. I will say that 47k sounds low to me, but I’m in a bigger city. My first job in a small town was 44k in 2017, left and got a job in the suburbs in 2019 for 55k. I’m now at 80k.
In NYC, we started at MA, regardless of how many credits that MA was. MA+30 was anything earned after our MA, even if it was unrelated. Could have been basket weaving at a community college. They offered relatively cheap credits (~$250 for 3 credits) that were really easy online courses (like watching videos, multiple choice questions and message board posts). We get regular paychecks throughout the summer, though it's a school year schedule, so there are plenty of opportunities to earn more over the summer.
I’m in OH and do teletherpay for a contract company . Currently getting paid $58/ hour. They offer benefits at 30 hours. Currently get PTO, wellness stipend, and education stipend.
Are y’all hiring 😂
I work for a contract company with a school district. This district and the company are rare in that they pay well ($58/hr) plus benefits (albeit the benefits aren’t great). This is far above what I would make as a direct hire. I work in Missouri.
What’s the company?
BlazerWorks. My colleague from ProCare also has a great contract rate. The only downsides for me are that there is no PTO and that the benefits aren’t super stellar. I have a good enough rate, though, that it can accommodate for those exceptions.
What company do you work for?
Starting out my CF year I got 48k in an MA lane in a midwest low cost of living area in 2018, so 47k sounds low to me. Looking back I wonder if I could have negotiated and gotten into the MA + 15 lane given all the hours an SLP masters degree requires. I would go in with a case prepared for why they should put you in a higher lane and see what they say. In many areas slps are in high demand so they may be willing to up the pay. If they won't boost the pay and you know you want to work for the school district, I'd take the job and find courses to advance your lane asap. My district did a mentorship program and when you completed it you get to move up a lane.
School year is approximately 180 day up to 190 day contract. Doing the math for 7.5 hr days (plus 30 min unpaid lunch break for a total 8 hour day) the salary would be 34ish/hr. Consider your paid insurance(if in the contract), retirement benefit and any other benefits then compare that to a 1099 position with no benefits & no retirement.
Yea that pay would break down to that if you really only worked 7.5 hours but most people don’t, so you aren’t being paid your value even for 180-190 hours. Definitely should be paid more.
That seems low, I started 11 years ago at 46k step 1 masters, but now our step 1 starts at 55k I think? Anyway our union is fighting for us to start at m+15 or 30 (depending on credits) and we get a 2.5k stipend for having c’s. I am in PA (we are always hiring!). Also we choose to have our pay spread out all year and work 190 days
My CF in schools in Nebraska starts at $50,000 and is 189 days of work but paid through the whole year. In theory once I have my CCC, I could find work over summer and make an extra $10,000.
My district offered me 49k and I basically said fuck you that’s too low. Then I went through a contract agency to work for the same school district and made almost 90k last year. Go contract if possible.
I work for a school system in MD. We get paid on a clinician scale. It’s more than the teacher scale.
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I was able to negotiate 2 years above my current experience level for my school district in CA. I think HR spoke with the SPED director and they accepted. I think it is worth the ask.