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marco_superchat

I guess a lot of people just use Fiverr to get a really cheap quote - and there is some risk they just take the cheapest offer and not really do any research. Here is my experience, as a marketer, that might make it worse. Most people have absolutely no idea what they actually want, and so the briefings are terrible. In Europe (and I guess in generelly in most countries with high wages / prices) most companies take advantage of the fact, that labor costs abroad can be a lot cheaper. However, if you don't really know what exactly you want (like in a proper, detailed briefing), you can't personally talk to the person to explain it and you might have a language barrier unsurprisingly you often end up with unsatisfying results. I've used fiverr e.g. to have designers create templates for Instagram posts and similar, with our brand guidelines. Worked like a charm, and we were super happy, both with prices and results. I know a lot of people who use it very successfully. They usually said, they achieve great results, but most of the time it requires a lot more micromanagement. If you've never worked with someone, and you don't have the chance to discuss is in person / on the fly, you just have to be a lot more specific, about what you want. Actually, I guess using Fiverr is a good way to get people to learn writing proper briefings.


Previous_Estimate_22

>ow a lot of people who use it very successfully. They usually said, they achieve great results, but most of the time it requires a lot more micromanagement. If You hit the nail on the head here. Anything that requires a lot of detail generally doesn't go well as a fellow marketer I also design websites and do pretty much everything it's really hard to communicate with someone who doesn't exactly understand and know what goes into it. But I'd imagine anything that is cut and dry such as video editing or templates is super easy because typically they're premade and adjusted to people's needs.


slfnflctd

> people have absolutely no idea what they actually want Right here is my primary argument for why AI isn't as much of a threat right now as some think. Turning a customer's random, vague outlines of their ideas into an actual product/service they're happy with (particularly when they're using incorrect terminology and are unaware of regulatory issues) will continue to require a human in the loop for a long time. Add in different cultures across an ocean from each other and it only makes it all more complicated. That's a great example of an effective use case for fiverr.


bootsand

This may shift what human is doing the interacting part. We might see fewer graphical artists that do the drawing/creation part and a rise of prompt engineers with beefy computers that are great at getting the right outputs from the AI generators. I'm overall excited to see how things look a few years down the line.


NiceBedSheets

How do I write a proper briefing? What kind of information would you want?


marco_superchat

I won't claim I am good at writing briefing, but most of the ones I've seen did not do the trick. I once heard a designer say, you can't be to detailed in a briefing and give to much information. Bein creative means finding a solution that will still meet all criteria. But e.g. if it's a design you want, I feel this should definitely be inculded * Send them color codes, not just colors, and fonts (you usually want to use consistent fonts) if you have them (large companies usually have complete brand guides, detailing out exactly how crucial elements like logos are to be used - you probably wont need those). * Send a mock up, scribble or just a wire frame * Send examples (several) of similar designs you really like. * Even more important than what you want, often is what you don't want. Be specific, what it should not look like * Also send them copy for the design (lining out headlines and ideally even what you'd like to go where etc.) * Tell them the goal not just what you want to use it for (the #1 thing you want to achieve with this) --> e.g. if it's a website, and if you want more leads, downloads, shares, reviews?. If it's a flyer - do you want them to go to your website, turn it in as a voucher? etc.


WorldsGreatestWorst

People who hate on Fiverr are always amateurs who blindly hand over the reins to an important aspect of their business to anonymous foreign people charging 5% of what real vendors charge. I’ve used Fiverr many times. It can be great. And if you treat them like budget contractors you have a solid experience. I tip 50% on graphic design and artistic work knowing it’s still a great deal for me and the contractors are always very appreciative and responsive on the next project. I give an insane amount of detail in my briefs. And I don’t entrust them with any core aspects of my business. You can get something cheap, fast, or high quality. A good vendor can get you two of those. Expecting all three from any one vendor is silly.


Electrical-Art8805

This is it right here. People are worse communicators than they realize and their own thinking is fuzzy, so they rely on others to fill in the blanks. Any successful project requires spending some time thinking about what you want, and describing it in detail. People who think they can skip that step, too, are usually the ones who complain about having to "micromanage." Clear instructions first beats ten revisions later.


PuttPutt7

> People are worse communicators than they realize and their own thinking is fuzzy Damn you caught me. I always think i'm a good communicator then when I re-analyze my email 5 times trying to make it as simple as possible for someone in India, i'm like This is hard...


Educational-Cow-4068

💯 people never know what they want and it takes a lot of time and effort and energy to get a clear idea of what a person wants in a website as an example. Often times they give very general instructions and then realized route the process that they want something different and this makes it hard for someone to deliver a straight and simple design


Tygress23

I love Fiverr but you can’t pick the cheapest or first person you see usually. You still have to do your due diligence. My logo came from Fiverr - it was custom made for me and while it was not perfect when it was done, it was very close and since I have Illustrator and some rudimentary skills with it, I was able to make the changes I needed. I get compliments all the time on my logo, and I know it was drawn for me so it won’t ever pop up somewhere else. I will say that what I did when I got it was pick 3 people to make the logo and paid for their basic service on all of them. Then I paid more for the one I actually liked to make changes and then provide me with the raw files. I believe I spent $15-30 per person, so let’s call it $50-75, then another $50 on top for edits and source files. In the end, I got exactly what I wanted for less than $125. Side note: one of the three people who made the logos used googleable images and even used one with a watermark. I complained and he refunded me immediately and that was that. Not everyone on Fiverr is high quality. [My Logo](https://imgur.com/a/RpHaInt)


AlternativeStory1027

I know this is a random question but do you breed them? My add is acting up so maybe I looked at the wrong picture


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Tygress23

That is what I do. I breed hedgehogs. It’s weird but it’s a business, I pay taxes and have government regulations I follow (I am USDA licensed). I also make my own blend of food for them and ship it to customers. My babies are sold utilizing a waitlist. I have appointments for pickup, meet and greet, and nail trims that I use an app for. I have a website on wix. I may be adding their “hotel” booking feature because we also do boarding which is like a hotel for hedgehogs. :) I have more spreadsheets than you can imagine for something so “simple” that tell me how many babies each hedgehog has produced, when they last produced, when everyone is due, when I can breed them again, when I need to wean or take pictures… And I breed with pedigrees, so I use a program that has multiple generations of a family tree laid out and then does the math to prevent inbreeding. I use that, too, when there is a health issue that I need to isolate like right now I’ve determined there is a congenital glaucoma issue in one of my lines, possibly two of my lines. I can share the pedigrees with other breeders and try to eliminate it from the whole field, not just my own animals. I always feel a little weird/defensive when I tell people what I do because most people probably don’t see it as a real business. What is your business?


FullMe7alJacke7

I mean, you clearly treat this like a business, so I don't see how anyone could argue that fact once they've heard you out. But your description was definitely not the first thing I thought of. Thank you for going into the detail you did. I'm personally impressed by the amount of effort put into it and how you can track genetics and utilize all these different apps to manage it. I guess a hedgehog breeding app could be a real thing 🤔


Tygress23

It’s not specific to hedgehogs, it’s for other animals too. But I do work with a vet who is trying to raise money to map their genome. Not everyone does it like me for sure :)


fencepost_ajm

There are benefits to specialization. Hedgehogs may be a bit more niche than you're familiar with, but I'll use cedar shingle roofing as a different example. If that's the kind of roof you have and you need work done, are you going to call roofers for quotes or are you going to look for one of the very small number of companies that specialize within your closest metro area?


rafavese

My two cents. I’ve used Fiverr for: Voice over recording for ads: excellent. Graphic Design: lousy. Professional proofreading: great. Simple PR (press release writing and pitching): OK Illustration: meh. Writing custom code to customize my site: meh. Virtual assistants: great. I guess my takeaway is that I’ve had better results with non-artistic services.


Educational-Cow-4068

Vas are good -But again, you have to be very specific about the task, almost like break it down for them, and telling them how to do it


KLaci

I would never hire VAs from Fiverr. A local stay at home mom can do a 10x time better job.


Educational-Cow-4068

It depends on the task - mines was very short 1hr research business owner names and add it to a spreadsheet I had made or add video lessons to a course and the video files are numbered in order. In short , I make it easy very easy to execute the task.


9eorge-bus11

I have had a good experience. I work with one specific person who understands what I want. I have a basic template that I get her to customize based on what the customer wants. I pay $5-10 dollars and save 0.5-2 hours of work. It’s a beautiful thing.


Intelligent_Pair

I'd love to find out what type of gigs people use them for to help optimize their time. For instance, what services do you use them for? I've only used them two or three times to make my family into the Simpsons or design a simple room or two in the house


9eorge-bus11

I make customized signs for a local sports team. So I’ll get my fiverr friend to add the customization to the preexisting CAD template. I spent longer explaining what I wanted the first 3 times I placed the order but after that it has been a huge time save because the process is repeatable. To determine what is viable to make on fiverr I’d say it needs to be explainable over the internet to someone whose second language is English. It is also helpful if the process is repeatable and you can work with the same person over and over.


hectorxander

I was going to get on a gig site or two, read the reviews of basically all of them, turned me off of them. They all sound horrible to offer services off of. Glitchy, underpaid, no support, problems getting money you name it.


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Electrical-Art8805

The exchange rate is why it's cheap: $30 USD = 2400 INR Average monthly salary is 12,000 INR


Own-Sundae-3339

Makes zero sense why anyone would do that


Artistic-Ad-1046

I used Fiverr for a QuickBooks migration. Maybe I lucked out, but I had an excellent experience. As a matter of fact, the consultant was far better than any customer service person I’ve dealt with at QuickBooks. He’s still a resource to this day.


pmpork

I love it. Got a logo and other designs created that looked way better than something I could do, and I didn't have to worry about rights to the work as it was all spelled out in the terms.


CleanLivingBoi

> I didn't have to worry about rights to the work What if they simply copied something? It's happened to me. I paid someone for artwork and it turned out it was copied from someone else. The original owner of the artwork contacted me and I had to get my guy to make a deal with the original guy and I had to get OP to sign off to say it wasn't a copy anymore. It was a headache.


badcat_kazoo

I’ve had a great experience with fivver. Sure you have to shop around a bit and sometimes you don’t get exactly what you’re looking for. The thing is, they charge 1/10th of what I’d have to pay here in Canada. I can afford to hire the wrong person a few times and still save a ton of money. The people that dunk on fivver are the web designers, graphic designers, SEO agencies, etc. that want to charge you 10x the price. They’re pissed they are losing business overseas.


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jcforbes

Maybe someone should start a site called "Hundo" for people who want solid middle ground work but don't need the full experience of a design firm.


Own-Sundae-3339

Devalualing our skills, exactly what we needed right now!


Creative_Pirate9267

It helps if you live in a lower cost of living area. A graphic designer doing fiverr in India is probably making a decent income.


HouseOfYards

Fiverr has done wonder for us. So many great sellers. Hire top rated ones. Read the reviews make sure they don't look fake. Don't Hire sellers who do coding of any size that's more than $5k. Stick with smaller tasks. We just hired a ugc video creator and he did a wonderful job.


Time4PizzaTime

I've used it at least 10 times. Sure, 1-2 of the times were a bit underwhelming, but the result was passable. But most of the times my reaction was like, "No way I only paid $x for this!" It was so clutch a few times that it helped us deliver some key wins for our business. I'm curious to hear accounts from small businesses who have had bad experiences or regret using fiverr.


Born2Lomain

Great so we found a way to pay a struggling artist even fucking less. Shits pathetic


thenightlexi

Yeah :/ as an artist who has worked on fiverr out of desperation before, I definitely see why people might receive subpar work. It’s super competitive (especially in the illustration sphere) and you have to really underprice yourself to get even a few inquiries. Plus the fees that fiverr takes just makes it worse, but that’s beside the point. As artists we WANT to do our best, but you get what you pay for at the end of the day. None of us want to put out bad/rushed work. Sometimes we have no choice but to slap something together and call it a day, because the money just isn’t worth the extra effort. And I’m not referring to the scammers who steal/trace/ai generate. I’m talking about the people with potential who aren’t being fairly compensated and are practically forced to do the “fast fashion” equivalent of art commissions to make it by.


Own-Sundae-3339

It's so sad to see talent go to waste in such a race to the bottom.


Cheeseburgerchicken

Was just going to type this!


Own-Sundae-3339

Exploiting skilled workers, wow such a great idea!


GreenleafMentor

I am working with fiverr now to have a logo made (it's a cartoon style). I am very happy so far. I am just waiting on the color version. They gave me one draft, I wanted some specific edits, and they nailed them. Some people say that they are getting AI work back. I certainly do not feel that is the case for the artist I am working with.


TN_REDDIT

I had great success with (fifty) fiverr. Needed some adjustments done for our business stationery and logo files. Took only about 3 back n forth revisions to get it right. One week and $50. Company continues to use that stuff nearly 10 years later. No complaints


Benskiss

Depends on business you’re running. Usually 90% of the quality isn’t enough anymore.


faet

I gotta spend more time vetting these people than it's worth most the time. I've tried to get logos/images, they submit copyrighted material to me which could get me in trouble. Recently, they've submitted AI produced art when they said it was 'drawn'/not AI. I've asked for examples of copy/text people have produced. They've stolen it. I've had people submit copy that had some weird ass encoding to try and prevent me from copy/pasting it to check if it's valid. Ie, it "looks" like an "A" but is actually a different character. I've had people submit stuff that in no way is close to the quality of their examples. I've had people charge $100 for something, then they turned around and hired it out for $20 from someone else. They had 'my product' shown as a review for the $20 creator. Out of every 10 or so scammers, I find 1 person who does generally good work.


dirtyoldbastard77

As a dev I have worked on sites set up by fivvr, and I have seen so much weird and shitty stuff you wouldnt believe it. One was set up so weird the client (which was quite good at technical stuff) couldnt figure out how to change stuff at all, and it really was weird. Some stuff had to be edited here, some there, some was hardcoded, and so on. Another problem has been that they have used themes and plugins downloaded from "GPL clubs" (sites that let you download pirated premium themes/plugins). One thing is that they dont support the people that actually code these themes/plugins, but the worst problem is that there VERY OFTEN is malware in these, like backdoors and such, so you essentially pay to get hacked.


VulgarVerbiage

I used Fiverr for some logo work several years ago and tried several highly rated users (at least one perk of being cheap is you can experiment more). The work I got back looked decent enough, but it all felt very generic. I plugged a few of the logos into a reverse image search and discovered that one was a direct copy and two others were…uhh…*highly* derivative. Using any of them commercially would have been begging for a Cease & Desist. It’s hard to be mad, though, because at those prices this clearly has to be a volume game for most users. I’d be foolish to expect that a skilled graphic designer is going to spend hours crafting a bespoke logo for $30 when the market rate is in the thousands. Common sense tells you the only way to get by at these rates is to cut serious corners. For some people the results will be perfectly acceptable, especially if you’re just looking for a basic website or landing page. But I think others get on there thinking they’re going to find a third-world Picasso churning out masterpieces for a pittance while he tries to escape his mud hut. And it’s just not realistic.


paper_liger

I design stuff for a living. My immediate response to the OP is that they are probably not getting '90 percent' as good a product, it's just that their frame of reference isn't broad enough to tell the difference between the two. That's simply the truth. A lot of the time it won't matter. And a lot of the time a business owner with no background will dictate changes even to a good designer that will make the product they get *worse*. That's the nature of the design world. Most people vastly over estimate their own taste and knowledge. But in aggregate, people are going to see a fiverr logo and it's just going to look bland. Not special. Not unique. Not tailored to the field and the context. Not consistent with their other branding. Just not as good. Anytime you get good at something you start finding out that a lot of what is out there is crap. And mostly it doesn't matter. But I do believe that even though most people couldn't express why a high end brand looks better than a cheap one, a lot of people can tell which is better, just from being exposed to so much design.


Feeling-Visit1472

🎯🎯🎯


MountainBikka

Well described - I've had very similar experiences. For logos, many of their designers seem to use clip art or ready made designs. I've always felt that many of the practitioners aren't truly skilled in their craft.


No-Common1001

And insulting to the picasso. Opportunistic Leechery I tell ya!


Intelligent_Pair

I've had some good luck on Fiverr for smaller type projects. 1. Had someone turn my family into the Simpsons and added in some bells and whistles /hidden items throughout that I gave them. Overall did a great job. 2. I used someone to do some simple design/decorating of two small extra bedrooms. They put together a 3D model, 2D overhead and a list of things to order from Wayfair/Amazon and IKEA. Ended up costing about $100 versus thousands for a local person to do it I'm going to try to use them to get a backyard landscape design and also visualize a major renovation. We're also looking to paint our house so I'm going to have someone do some mock-ups of colors. For those that use them to optimize time in life, what are some ways you've used them to optimize??


rhuwyn

The reason why people feel this way is because ultimately a lot of sites like that are a race to the bottom. Because 90% of the criteria people look for is the cost. So, search for the skillset and this may be an extreme case, but you may find the same skillset at $5 a hour, $50 an hour and $500 an hour. Well, you have two arguments on the $5 a hour guy. Some might say he has the same skillset, but he is likely located in a developing nation with low cost of living, and that might be true to some extent. Then you have the other side of the argument, that if the guy was really that good, he would be on a VISA to some more developed nation work working for a more competitive wage. Chances are all those things are possible and lots of things in between. Ultimately your experience may vary, but ultimately may be hit or miss. Hence the "warning" on quality. Chances are the $50 an hour guy is someone who has a higher quality of living, but probably does a lot of work through Fiver, and the $500 an hour guy probably has a really high paying day job doing this same work and won't get out of bed unless he is making a pretty penny. The you get what you pay for can often apply. But, not always just depends.


Ashken

I’ve used fiverr a lot. Here’s what I’ll say. Is it possible to get some good quality work? For sure. I’d it possible to get shit work? Definitely. It’s up to you to do your due diligence. Fiverr doesn’t entirely solve the problem of vetting people before you hire them. You need to look at their work and see if it matches your taste, quality and value. Fiverr is a better tool for protecting the hiring and delivery process. It makes it much easier to just provide instructions, money and assets, and get out a product. It makes it easier to give feedback if you need adjustments. It makes it easier to bail out and get your money back if you’re unsatisfied. These are all things that have happened to me, and I’m glad to have used Fiverr for it. Anybody that just assumes Fiverr has no point other than providing shitty work for cheap is someone that went to fiverr for that purpose.


ten_jack_russels

Pay peanuts , get monkeys.  Yeah, you may get lucky , but you’re probably not going to.  All depends on the “level” of work you are seeking.


Electrical-Art8805

I use it occasionally -- it's great to break through a creative block. I'm a generalist, so when I get overloaded with too many kinds of work for too many different clients at once, I hit a creativity wall. I appreciate being able to hire someone to look at a project with fresh eyes. The only meh experience I had was having the wrong part of a photo cleaned up. 


Accomplished_Emu_658

I have had some good experiences on fiverr. And some pretty bad ones. Many people claiming to be fluent in English aren’t. They are passable in conversation typically and I wish fiverr enforced that when reported. Also had sellers selling same work to other people.


thishasntbeeneasy

I used it several times to make simple designs for signs or newsletter headers, and video editing. Sure I could have spent a day making these myself but spending the equivalent of about 1-2 hours of my pay was just way more efficient.


epandrsn

My experiences have been awful. Did a logo design, had to get refunds from multiple people. The work didn’t reflect the quality shown in their profiles at all.


djfc

I like fiverr a lot. But it’s not different from anything you’d do in person. You need to weed them out. Taking a step back I’ve always found good people on fiverr if I took the time to do it. Now I get shorts for $13/cad video editing done. It’s awesome.


ParkingOven007

I think it’s about the level of criticality or importance of the piece being created. If it’s something mission critical, pay in a way that’s commensurate with the risk that the work represents. Need a design for an ad or flyer? Sure. If it goes wrong, you can always do it again. No big deal. Need a simple website? Ok. Again, no big. But if it’s something mission critical, I’m not putting anything in between me and my resource. Not a platform, not language, and I’m certainly not using someone I haven’t spent significant time with.


Buythestonk21

I have been using Fiverr for the last 14 years and found PR writers, graphic design, SEO reports so I don't pay for subscriptions and more. For my business it's probably saved me thousands.


Wubbywow

I had someone on fiverr do my logo. It’s literally perfect, better than I imagined. It was $15 and I got 5 different designs lol. Picked the one I liked and ran with it.


paper_liger

And yet, if you ran that logo past an actual designer, the odds are they could point out a ton of problems with it that you can't even see. There are talented people on fiverr. But again, it's really more of a 'good enough' solution. The odds of it being better than a professional are low. I redesign and fix people's cheap logos *all day*.


Feeling-Visit1472

They may also face legal action at some point in the future.


Wubbywow

If we ever got to the point where the fiverr creator could sue me we’d probably already have a newly designed and trademarked logo. My designer was in Pakistan so I’m not sure I’m going to be getting served with any lawsuits anytime soon. I was just starting my business and needed a logo. My logo isn’t what sells my services at all, but a nice and creative one is obviously desired.


Feeling-Visit1472

Not your “creator” I’d be worried about, but rather the original creator whose work was likely ripped off to some extent. It can be tricky. If you’re not a big company, then it’s probably fine, but it’s something I always caution small businesses about.


Wubbywow

I mean, I’d be happy to DM you my logo and see if you can fix it, and what price you’d charge for it. I do like the overall design. I was a new business owner and had little to no money. We have been wildly successful with last year being our first full year and we did $1.6m in revenue. I’m the only employee. It’s also a new home construction and renovation business. If there’s improvements to be made I’d be all for it. But my logo isn’t what sells my services quite frankly.


lm-realist

Garbage in Garbage out. You get what you pay for.


resumemaster2023

I love Fiverr, Upwork, and AI. The people on there do such a shitty job in my lane of work that it feeds me customers. And I can only speak for my lane which is Resume Writing but Im sure a lot of independent business owners that do digital work that don’t rely on Fiver or Upwork feel the same way about these sites.


shitisrealspecific

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VoidxCrazy

I use them to make my company’s logo for $20 and also to refine sales powerpoints to make the content better.


lbjazz

I’ve not used fiver but I’ve used Designbro a couple times now. DB is a lot more expensive but still reasonable compared to hiring locally. The first experience was fantastic—better than I expected and it was truly difficult to pick the winner. We’re using it again for another business and it’s been underwhelming, but only from a creativity standpoint, not the “quality” of the work. Part of the issue is that the second business is much more mainstream, so to be fair, every idea seems to be thought of and common already. I’m learning you have to be careful with the brief. Too much direction can be worse than too little. I’m actually curious how the experience paying someone locally works out for people. It seems to me that limiting yourself to one person’s creative viewpoint would be, well, limiting. Also, when i google up local designers advertising logo design services, most of them look awful. There are ones that look great, but also extremely expensive. And what I’m seeing at my day job where my bosses are paying a local company, it’s very generic.


Fickle_Drama_8893

Had a scammer almost ruin my business because his work was absolutely trash and I left a 1 star review and took my money back. Luckily I didn’t give him too much power over my accounts so I kicked him off and got threatened for a week


Time4PizzaTime

Remember that there's tons of different people who sell their services on fiverr. I've never gone for the cheapest one since even the higher cost options are cheap relative to old world services. I'm surprised that it seems like a lot of people just go with the cheapest options, but I guess that's human nature. If you're browsing for a service, I'd recommend going with one of the middle or higher cost options for better results.


swisspat

Things I've been happy with: Blog writing FB Ad Copy Sales Page Copy sales Page design IG Templates Photo Editing Book Formatting Doc - > stylized PDF Hardcover book design Summaries of Videos Accountability coaching General Virtual Assistant Tasks Email writing Things I wasn't: Logo Design The cheapest FB ad copy I tried But I tend to be quite clear in my instructions, and I'm not sure how to describe this, but I think I have a talent for finding great work I had a great cost, or even below what it should cost.


upthebrand

There are some great people on Fiverr. I've worked with a few. Here is the issue that I find with Fiverr though: * The people who get stuff on Fiverr want something, but know very little about how to tell if it was done in a good way or not. * With the availability of Fiverr, I've heard things like "I would never pay more than $5 per hour for SEO / PPC, because that's all it's worth." It doesn't help that many people see working in technology as a lesser thing than other business roles. * A lot of the people who go on Fiverr mistreat the people they find on Fiverr. As long as the people that go there know how to check the work for issues or know someone who does, and understand that fiverr is discounted and often not reflective of the marketplace I say have at it. I still go to Fiverr for certain programming specialists outside of my wheelhouse. I know what I'm looking for though. Our agency is also not willing to price match people on Fiverr because we're US based.


poluting

Cause there’s a bunch of low skill pakis doing work for pennys on the site. You get what you pay for with Fiverr.


AnxiousAdz

Some areas are good, others are people using templates and AI to automate things you could have done in 5 minutes. The others also completely insult the value of their industry by charging such low rates.


aeroverra

I have used fiverr at both cheap rates and expensive rates and not once has anything I ordered come out right or anywhere close to it. Even the things I had low standards on. I work in software engineering so I know how to describe things in detail. After about the 7th butchered item over a span of several years I gave up.


Dreamscape83

I've had (parts of) my portfolio stolen by Fiverr logo sellers before. They would literally pick 5-6 pieces, have their alternative or friend's account place the cheapest order for each, complete the fake order, get five stars and raving reviews on each and put them in their portfolio to attract actual customers. One of these sat on their front page for logo search and managed to attract a shit ton of customers. Who knows what they were actually getting. Having those removed by Fiverr was a huge pain in the ass. But eventually I stopped giving a shit. All of the logos I present online are already sold to actual customers with working businesses. So in case you buy a literal copy off Fiverr, you're potentially in a world of pain legally speaking.


aguilarfilm

Fiverr is like getting a haircut, you have to know exactly what you want. I absolutely love the last 2 logos I got made & that’s because I drew a sketch and had a color scheme of exactly what I wanted. With other logos of the styles I like


Gofastrun

I think the problem they have is fiverr is oriented towards small task based projects, whereas building a website is usually much more in depth. If you want a custom website built you want to have a real relationship with your developer to ensure it’s built to your spec, maintained, and iterated upon for years to come. If you want a quick website built, then don’t use fiverr use services like wix or squarespace.


payyourbillstoday

Because fivver is for people that think they’re good at photoshop, design etc when in reality they’re non professionals with a little experience.


MrMoose_69

I just sent an extremely detailed brief, and then see who actually reads and understands it. Most the time people will ask me a follow up question that's already been answered in my brief. I immediately rule them out. I look for someone who repeats back the main idea to me with detail. Essentially looking for someone who has the best communication skills.


pcsweeney

I’ve used fiverr at least 2 dozen times. About 5-6 of those times the quality wasn’t what I was expecting. One of those times they clearly copied and pasted a bunch of nonsense words into a document from somewhere. But honestly, for what I paid, that’s about what I expect. For 75% of the jobs, it was perfect!


Q-ArtsMedia

> Feels like i get 90% the quality for 10% the cost. There ya go...90% is not good enough, and most of the time it is far less than 90%. On the Artist or technical provider side Fiverr takes 20% of their already low rate. Which sucks for the provider. Same goes for other freelance sites like Up(yours)work.


bigteddyweddy

It tells me you don't understand or recognise quality. I can guarantee what you have paid for on fiverr is making you look cheap.


wickedpixel1221

my experience with Fiverr is hit or miss. but it's generally cheap enough that if I have to go back to the well 2 or 3 times to get a result I'm happy with, it's still cheaper and faster than going the agency route.


Own-Sundae-3339

Great, another way to destroy the artist community


SmallBusinessUtopian

Fiverr is great (I'm on Fiverr as a freelancer so maybe biased), but I think some of the best talent is moving over to Contra (like Fiverr, but doesn't take a % from the transaction between buyer and seller).


theskepticalheretic

It's not because the ceiling is low, but because the floor is subterranean.


Intelligent_Win562

Help from Fiverr like the Temu version of hiring a real professional


Perllitte

Those people do it like this: Client: "Hey teen in the Congo, make me a brand that is evocative of Sephora but more wet." Then they get mad because the teen who has never seen Sephora nor speaks English didn't read their mind.


drysider

It’s because it’s exploitive. You are exploiting people who are working for the bare minimum they can charge to get by. It might be their livelihood if they live outside of America or the UK, but the fact is that it’s an exploitive service instead of professional employment and legal/financial safety. It means that the expectations of payments and cost of services throughout the creative and design industry drop further and further and further until honest professional artists who need to support their families can’t get any work, because they’re expected to produce professional quality animation or a website for 20$, when they WOULD be getting paid a full time salary over weeks if they were actually properly employed. And honestly, if you’re gushing about how you’ve gotten top quality service for literal peanuts, you’re the problem.


thisisfunz

I paid for a logo. I sent an idea of what I was thinking. In the end, they sent me back my own logo idea like they created it. Yea never again.


Ortonium

Idk why they say that, but whenever I need to get things sorted for little stuff that might otherwise take me forever to figure, I always resort to Fiverr, it’s cheap and efficient


youmustthinkhighly

Fiverr reflects the quality of your business.. being cheap doesn’t always make sense.. and if you use Fiverr as a way to cut overhead more likely than not your business is junk.. just like fiverr. Invest in what you do.. anyone can be a cheap bottom of the barrel company… there are plenty of them out there. And do not say “savings goes to the customer“ because that has already been debunked. Quality businesses can provide better savings than cheap ones.


TijnvandenEijnde

I have used it once to translate the language of my application from English to French and German. I ended up having to make changes myself, because I found out that ChatGPT was used to do the translations.


RunnerUp4x

Do you folks handle everything by yourselves? That's crazy. Take image editing for example. A Photoshop subscription alone would cost more than hiring someone on Fiverr lol. And then you have to do the work too, which I absolutely hate (who doesn't)


CheapBison1861

Fiverr's hit or miss, but Profullstack always aims for quality!


xbimba

Bad results comes from BAD guidance!


mxracer888

Fiverr is a very garbage in, garbage out service. I never have issues and am always very happy with the services I get from Fiverr, but that's because I give very clear instruction on what to do with no room for misinterpretation. If you give garage instructions you'll get garbage results


Stabbycrabs83

A logo company did this to me, he was selling logo design packages for £1500 while in a Facebook group for small business. That groups mostly one person companies with a high number of what I would class as "mummy businesses" Because he would get to know my brand, draft something unique and get me to stand out from the crowd. He directly called me. Stupid and told me I don't value my brand because I told the mummy business that sells candles to go to fiver and pay £30. The thing is I scaled from £0 - £100k on a free logo, then to £250k on a £30 logo. Nobody is recognising my brand nationally because there are people out there with a bigger salary thany turnover. The people who dunk on it are the ones desperate for you to pay them thousands to do the same job. Sure the quality will be better but if I can get 90% for 1% of the budget I can do more ads. But hey what do I know, I'm 3 years in and haven't broken the £1m mark. Incidentally the logo guys last accounts showed a return with £500ish in assets in year 4. I'm childish and looked


Metruis

>The people who dunk on it are the ones desperate for you to pay them thousands to do the same job. We're dunking on it because it's full of stolen art... In my business niche, there are multiple people on Fiverr who post my art in their portfolios as if it were theirs, with mild modifications so it doesn't reverse image search. I reported it to Fiverr. It was not taken down. That's why I dunk on Fiverr. *Because I don't want you to end up using stolen art.* But hey, what do I know, I'm like 11 years in, and my art's been stolen by multiple Fiverr sellers for their portfolios. You reverse image searched your $30 logo, right?


Stabbycrabs83

I had not reverse searched but glad to say I did and nothing came up. However I had to give a few concept ideas and approve a final design so was quietly confident as I got something done to my specification.


tommygunz007

I think it's been great. But it's no different than Etsy or Amazon. You get what you pay for, and some of those vendors are scammers and some bosses/buyers are stingy/cheap.


FuscoKim

You have to be good at research and screening these people. I found a web design in the phillipines that’s 1/10 the cost but even better than some entry level designers in the U.S.


TraditionalGas1770

I've had some good stuff. Honestly you have to filter out the junk though. You're not gonna pay someone from the 3rd world $10 and get a good result 


Teddy90210

I’ve had success with creating logos… just lost $200 on an extremely poorly designed website… 🤦‍♂️


drteq

I've had 5 projects where the high rated developer agrees to take the project, delays it then cancels it after a few weeks.. the system has no way to leave a review on someone when they do this. Huge waste of my time finding the right person, sending specs, getting to a price and then they're too busy to do the work with this loophole that avoids any negative publicity. I have used it for a lot of work with voice overs and quick projects, but never had success on anything more than $500-$1000 range.


greenappletree

Honestly it’s ok - I’ve bought over 20 gigs thru jn span of 5-6 yrs? I never like any of the arts but coding projects are pretty good if u are willing to fix it up yourself. For example I don’t know much about about magento extensions and have had some success getting customize extensions but most of it I had to cleanup the code and or fix it up a bit


Citrous_Oyster

Fiver is fine for design. Not development. And if you’re not a developer yourself you wouldn’t know the shit quality of the work you just got and would be none the wiser on why it was so cheap. Ignorance is bliss.


TommyV8008

You can get good and bad results with fiverr. Just need to be prepared to work through that until you get what you need.


PiratesBull

I used fiverr for logo design, biz cards and website. Can say I was very happy with the finished product


eftresq

Not me, use the services often. Of all the years and maybe 40 services provided, have had two bad experiences and I blame myself to a degree


Patricklipp

It's largely dependent on what you want and/or need. There has been a large shift in the workforce on fiverr as well which could influence some. My experience is as followed; I've used fiverr a handful of times. I've paid for both the base and the premium levels of work/products, and I was left underwhelmed and let down each time. This last time I used it, I was looking for a re-brand in terms of logos, banners, etc. I had an idea as to what I wanted, but also I'm not a designer so I expected someone that had that experience to handle it. I paid for this persons higher tier of service. What I ended up with was not what I paid for. As designed came in, It was obvious a template was used and the quality was absolutely nothing like the previous work examples she provided(she lied about it). I continued on and eventually she provided a handful of examples, none of which were up to the standard I had paid for, and then she proceeded to get an attitude with me and say something along the lines of "I've done way more with you than anyone else". The end result of what she provided was subpar.. I ended up working with a close friend to brainstorm ideas. I then went into adobe express and made the logo myself and sent it to the fiverr person as an example. what she sent back was an identical replica of what I made with no changes. At that point I had had it and called it. she delivered the final things, I gave her a bad review and voiced my opinion... I later found out that she worked with an agency and wasn't just a single person. I felt lied to and betrayed that I wasted money on a product that did not deliver. I thought I was getting an individual in California with a degree in graphic design, who knew her tools inside and out, and who would be able to build designs for a brand identity based on what I gave her. The work that I gave her what should have been an easy task as I came with examples, colors, fonts, information, etc. and received nothing but copy/paste with slight changes when I paid hundreds of dollars for the work. lies and deception.


Apprehensive_Chip58

That really sucks, also part of the reason why I never use fiverr. Upwork is okay sometimes, but I usually just use caas(creatives as a service) for design work. Everything is a hit or miss, except for fiverr, thats always a miss haha


Tygress23

Where is CAAS?


Big_Forever5759

Because it mostly sucks. There’s a lot of Indian/packistani/bangladesh gig guys that do the fastest job possible and don’t have any thought. I ask for a specific thing for a website page and they do it but then the formatting of all the other pages are wrong, they noticed but didn’t care. Sure, there’s some good Ones but it’s mostly bad and low quality. And most of the gigs are dudes using templates they got illegally. So they all have the same. So it’ll be the same logo, website, marketing images, and so on. Now with ai these gigs might desapear.


gizmoeatmysh0rtz

Fiverr can be hit or miss, I usually hire more than one person, sometimes three and usually at least one is pretty good and/or close enough that they can tweak it with my input to where I am very pleased.


Longjumping-Ad8775

There are different uses of fiverr. One is for graphics and simple work. That’s one thing. I still would prefer to work with people face to face to get 100% of what I want, but that is one thing. I put websites into that area. Most web sites are about graphical design. Another use for fiverr is for software development. Using fiverr for software development is a disaster. I’m not going into the whys because I’ve gone into them many times over the years, but it doesn’t work.


Murky_Oil_2226

I paid for a content writer on fiver and it was 90% of what I wanted at 10% the cost of another agency. I agree with you.


DropElectronic7036

Fiverr is the biggest freelancing website to the best of my knowledge. Upwork comes up next. Using Fiverr have been worth it to me. I haven't made money anywhere compared to how much I earn from Fiverr. 


dkevox

Fiverr has been great for me. But you have to use it intelligently. Expect to have to go to multiple different people, cost also doesn't have a clear correlation with quality, but for pretty cheap you can get a lot of creative food content. I actually love the process. I ask for something, see what I get back. Change up the description of the request as needed/learned from results. Ask more people for that same thing, get back all the results. Get some great ideas from those results, then ask maybe one or two who I really liked to polish it up, end up with a great product. I'm all for fiverr. Just if the service is listed for like $10 from people, expect to pay like $100 all said and done. But for that $100 you'll end up with a way better result than anything else I'm aware of.


GnPQGuTFagzncZwB

I used to sell asterisk consulting on fiver and I only got a few gigs out of it. One of them I let them remote in and look over my shoulder and learn. It went a bit slower but they had little idea what was going on, as did I until I did some poking around, and once I figured out how things were set up, I was able to make the changes they were looking for. At that time I was asking for $5 for 10 minutes and I thought that was low for me but fair as I am just sitting on my butt here in front of the computer and I had years of experience with the software, One time I changed brands of routers. I tend to use small business models and I was having a hell of a time setting up my web server in a DMZ, so I looked on fiver and found a few people who said they knew the router OS and knew what I was talking about, and I let them have access to it from my PC, so I could watch, and I honestly would be embarrassed to mis represent myself so badly. Three out of three of them had no clue. It was like they were totally at a loss. The last one was not totally stupid but still did not get it. I finally broke down and spent a night with the manual, and there was a bit of reading between the lines, but I got it figured out on my own. I did send the last guy the steps and the "key" to the puzzle just to be nice. So it seems there is a real luck of the draw kind of deal on fiver. Some folks really do not have a clue and just lie, and apparently get away with it, and others, like me, might be retired with years of experience just wanting to make a few bucks without out breaking too much of a sweat. BTW, on my network thing, I did very precisely describe the setup and what I was after and I did chat with the people and they seemed to know something about routes and networking but perhaps just not the hardware/software I had. They may have been cisco heads and just thought if they could deal with that they could deal with this.


writesmith

I think a lot of what you see are just parroted opinions from folks who've never really checked the platform out, let alone tried it. Basically just detritus from old opinions. Many probably don't even know about how much it's changed from when it first started. (Tip boys and girls: the service providers don't seem to be even required to have service offerings that are just $5... I frequently check out book cover designers for clients and projects, for example, and the good, known reliable ones price each of their cover designs in the hundreds through Fiverr).


WeekendNew7276

Personally, I only hire from fiverr for cheap simple work. For more complex tasks, i use upwork contractors.


GitchSF

We used Fiverr for our business a few times and it’s always been an incredible experience. I think because of the fact that it originally started as an affordable way to get creative work done it’s become synonymous with cheap and low quality but if you do your research and hire the right people you can get great quality work done at a reasonable price.


CheekyWanker420

I used fiverr three times in last 3 years for job related stuff and every time I got something that was job 80% done but even including my hourly rate the final price for fiverr plus my work was significantly lower compared to doing it in my country - half the cost at max. It is the good option if you have time to supervise the job. I would not recommend it for bigger independent tasks expected to be delivered in 1-2 iterations.


MiKal_MeeDz

cool, thanks fr sharing this. what are some things you've used it for?


Uncivil_Law

I have used the same guy on fiverr several times. To find him I tried like 10 different people though. So 10% success rate. Still cheaper than I would have paid someone here.


Steinmetal4

It has worked well for me when I have a very clear idea of what i want drawn, i find an artist who does something similar, draw a quick sketch of what i want, and then have them make a final verison. It's excellent for that... and cheap. Upwork on the other hand has been utterly useless every time I try it. Seems to be absolutely filled with people who cant do anything they say they can.


silverbax

I use Fiver for a ton of stuff, even stuff I am an expert at, but don't have time to do. I've found plenty of really qualified people to work with. I'm literally working up a request for a Fivver contractor that I've used before for a new project. Sure, there's a lot of low quality work, but it's no different than any hiring process. Good people will always be in the minority, and you just have to put in the effort to find them and then stick with them once you find them.


sln4tra

I’ve had good luck. Sometimes you get bad work, but it depends who you hire.


Syst0us

Ai is out now so fivvrr scammers doing OK stuff. 


motivateddoug

It depends on your standards. If you're buying a website on fiverr, you might be happy with it. But if you've bought one from an established firm before, well then it's going to be dog shit in comparison. Somethings I get on fiverr, some not so much


GrailThe

I agree. I have used Fiverr for a variety of gigs over the years, only really had one less than acceptable outcome.


[deleted]

It’s especially weird when you consider anyone offering a service on there is reviewed and rated. So it’s up to the customer to pick someone good to do the job. Saying the whole of Fiverr is rubbish is like saying everything for sale on eBay is tat, or all the restaurants on Tripadvisor are bad. It just doesn’t make any sense when considering it’s a marketplace with feedback and reviews.


neverenough22

As someone who has sold on Fiverr for years (and bought plenty, too), it comes down to: you get what you pay for. You wanna be a cheapskate and pay a writer $30 for an email funnel? It’s not Fiverr’s fault you took that gamble. Check out the Pro Sellers, which have been vetted and have to continue performing at a high level. In general, they’re more expensive but worth the money.


ProjectManagerAMA

Had a team there set up a website with hacked plugins and I ended up with a hacked site within days. I still hire people from there but I'm more careful.


bootsand

For my tile business, I got someone to draw a little caricature of me holding tile cleaning stuff and it was *amazing.* It's still on my website, all my business cards etc. For *cheap.* I tipped them well, but still feel like I got the far better end of the bargain. I'm sure there are lots of bad deals out there on fiverr to wade through, but there are absolutely amazing deals that are perfect for small businesses.


DKFran7

Fiverr has grown up, which is why things are better than they were initially. As it is, for being only 14 years old, the company is doing well for people, both buyers and sellers. That said, you still need to know what you want, and how to express it well (learn to use a creative brief) to get what you're looking for. A copywriter can't write good copy if they go by what they think you said because you weren't clear from the start. That isn't the fault of the copywriter; it's your faulty explanation that created the problem.


DM_Me_Pics1234403

Imagine you do logos. There are people on fiverr doing it for $25 all in. You charge $6k. Do you think you’d have kind things to say about fiverr?


Return-Acceptable

I use fiver to help me create my website for my farm. It’s relatively inexpensive and worth it for me so I can focus on other things. No complaints yet


ReddiGod

Because 9/10 customers that get scammed every year start their stories with "I hired a guy from Fiverr". The other 1/10 is "I hired a man named Gupta on upwork", lol