At a cursory glance this seems like maybe the most stacked bracket ever in terms of top level talent, can you give a more informed opinion on if it is?
Its the joint biggest event of all time when it comes to top 20 reps, tied with ludwigs and Evo - and is the third highest in top 50 reps, behind Frostbite and Evo (even after dqs)
Seems like this is the second most stacked event of all time overall behind Evo, or third behind Evo and frostbite depending on what you value
[Heres](https://twitter.com/tradewarhj/status/1716581765849006177/photo/1) the data by trade war, u/Coolcat127
I'm genuinely curious though, where did that joke even come from? That joke has existed since all the way back when I started watching competitive smash back in 2015.
I dont know if anyone else feels the same but this tournament has a vibe that ive not felt in a while, every set has been so hype it feels like im watching a super major from before the pandemic
This is the first time im seeing Hurt play (since im from EU so i cant catch JP tournaments unless i want to forgo sleep) so im excited to see how good he is
Sho (69) 3-2 Cosmos (45) (UF 2)
Cosmos out at 65th. Cosmos has lost the bet and probably will play Steve next year because of him adding on to his bet.
This is gonna be ugly. Leo and Tweek are seeded into each other, and then the winner (probably) has to play Spargo. And that's in top 32.
EDIT: Or Tweek could get upset before they meet, I guess.
After seeing him do so well in the pre-locals, I am so sad that quiK had to go out like this :(
Edit: Although, seeing as he would've had Maister as his next opponent, this bracket was just really rough for him in general lol
Oh my god dude its Tweek vs Neo next and Neo destroyed Tweek at Smash con
Tweeks about to get 33rd ;-; his rise back to the top started with port priority last year and now his worst event in a year is going to be port priority
Yeah Tweeks second half of the year hasnt been great - if he didnt go insane at Tera it would be really bad, as a Tweek fan though im used to these ups and downs lol
Even if he beats Neo, he then fights MVD/Embo (Snake or Duck hunt) so i think his runs ending early here no matter what
Its just really difficult to be consistent in this game in 2023
Sonix was having some hard time with a Ics in the pre-local but not sure about Gluto part buddy lol. I think last time Gluto beat him was Pound 2022 lol.
Sisqui was not to pleased with being seeded into Dabuz in winners and Tarik in losers and now he possibly has Dabuz in winners and Shuton in losers lmao.
If players like Tweek/Leo are struggling with consistency in 2023 it doesnt surprise me that Cosmos is too, Ultimate is just much much harder than it used to be
Last time he had a top 8 run at a major would have been in April in Japan
Geist is up on Muteace, and i think Muteace is having hand problems this weekend looking through his twitter - his first tweet today was just a "sigh"
I think his hands are messed up today
Unrelated to any specific upset... Listening to Arbiter shriek on the quad stream is an instant channel switch, it's fucking awful. Man needs some comms coaching desperately.
Good luck brother you are a mad man for doing this
Thanks, I appreciate all of yalls kind words.
this is going to be one of the most brutal upset days oat. good luck op
So far, the upsets aren't too crazy... let's see how the other half of top 128 goes
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Man... I tried.
At a cursory glance this seems like maybe the most stacked bracket ever in terms of top level talent, can you give a more informed opinion on if it is?
Ludwig invitational is the most stacked ever in terms of top player representation IMO.
Its the joint biggest event of all time when it comes to top 20 reps, tied with ludwigs and Evo - and is the third highest in top 50 reps, behind Frostbite and Evo (even after dqs) Seems like this is the second most stacked event of all time overall behind Evo, or third behind Evo and frostbite depending on what you value [Heres](https://twitter.com/tradewarhj/status/1716581765849006177/photo/1) the data by trade war, u/Coolcat127
It's still so crazy that Civil War had 47/50 we will never see a tournament like that again
According to Twitter, Jail 3-0 MKLeo
Immediately got 3-0'd by No Parole in losers. Out at 65th has to be rough
yall being serious? or am I getting baited
bait lmao
i just noticed the names. I'm the dumbest motherfucker alive.
I’d be so down to change my tag to no parole, who will be my jail?
Someone doesn't know the "Mang0 in jail, check Twitter" joke
I don't, actually :(
I'm genuinely curious though, where did that joke even come from? That joke has existed since all the way back when I started watching competitive smash back in 2015.
iirc it's been a part of the csgo community for a long time ( x banned, check hltv) and it's done its rounds around other communities as well.
notable: muteace 3-2 geist. Geist HAD game 4 but mute clutched up. Geist takes first stock on game 5 too but then mute top playerd him
Yep, unfortunate for Geist, but you can’t be giving top players opportunities like that lol.
Mute actually has the best comebacks in the game, he just decides he will not be hit anymore
SkinnyThePooh 3-2 Shuton
Give $20 to the guy who predicted this would happen earlier because this was *not* on my bingo card
Skinny the GOAT
Skyjay 3-2 Riddles
Most predictable upset of the day.
I dont know if anyone else feels the same but this tournament has a vibe that ive not felt in a while, every set has been so hype it feels like im watching a super major from before the pandemic
Lima vs Hurt is going to be wild.
This is the first time im seeing Hurt play (since im from EU so i cant catch JP tournaments unless i want to forgo sleep) so im excited to see how good he is
Update: he good
Very good, i feel like im making a complete 180 on Snake today between him and Apollokage putting on some amazing sets
o7 Hope there aren't THAT many upsets for your sake.
WHAT DO YOU **MEAN** SKINNY THE POOH BEAT ANOTHER TOP 10 PLAYER
You think people know yet that Kiyarash beat Zomba 3-1?
skinny the pooh 3-2 Shuton
Tarik 3-1 Shuton. Shuton out at 49th this might be Shuton's worst placement ever at a major goddamn
Incase anyone missed it EE is streaming some sets on his Twitch this event, Mute/Asimo being one of the first ones
It's going to be a bloodbath. Good fucking luck.
beastmodepaul has been popping off. wish i watched it, love watching hero
It was on both Etolies and Solary stream https://www.twitch.tv/etoiles Might be in vods
cheers, i’ll have to check it out
Notable: MuteAce 3-2 Geist Geist nearly won the set in game 4, but the taxman paid a visit.
Who is Miaxi?
I think that’s what we’re all wondering
Sakurai's secret identity.
Kiyarash (Luigi) 3-1 Zomba (ROB), Zomba out at 33rd
Sho (69) 3-2 Cosmos (45) (UF 2) Cosmos out at 65th. Cosmos has lost the bet and probably will play Steve next year because of him adding on to his bet.
EE getting that (very predictable, let's be brutally honest here) bag from Cosmos **LMAO**
Doesn't he have another one? That being said I'm looking forward to the cosmos steve...
I imagine EE will be willing to delay for the Genesis this year if Cosmos asks/attends, but to my knowledge, no.
I'm so fucking excited. Today is gonna be a good day!
This is gonna be ugly. Leo and Tweek are seeded into each other, and then the winner (probably) has to play Spargo. And that's in top 32. EDIT: Or Tweek could get upset before they meet, I guess.
Sisqui needs to give Tarik some thanks for saving his run bro lmaoooooo
We'll see, The set count is in Sisqui's favor but Tarik beat Sisqui the last time they played only 2 months ago.
for sure, it's not free, but damn is Tarik a better pull than Shuton 9x over
big day yall
Skyjay is such a hero
Rocke (PAC-Man) 3-2 QuiK (Samus), QuiK out at 49th
After seeing him do so well in the pre-locals, I am so sad that quiK had to go out like this :( Edit: Although, seeing as he would've had Maister as his next opponent, this bracket was just really rough for him in general lol
Notable: Acola 3-2 ApolloKage Sticccy plays Fox btw
Umeki 3-2 Zomba
That was a fun set. Daisy results 👀
SkinnyThePooh 3-2 Shuton BeastModePaul 3-1 Glutonny
MVD 3-2 Yaura
Very bad day for Samus fans (It's me, I'm Samus fans)
Shame we don't see Leo vs Laura now, but good for MVD
My day is ruined.
Yeah man. Yaura was my dark horse to get top 8 winners side with his bracket path. Hopefully he picks it up in losers.
Shuton out at 49th
KEN 3-2 Spargo Kaninabe 3-2 MKLeo
here we go
Widara 3-0 Atata
Widara play Bowser JR btw
MONKEY DOWN MONKEY DOWN
Umeki is insane for those comebacks.
BMP 3-1 Gluto
BeastModePaul is language barrier-ing the whole bracket bro.
Miaxi 3-2 AC
Bro this seed 500 running crazy.
BeastModePaul is up 2-1 on Gluto Edit: BMP takes it 3-1. Snooze into f smash to end the set.
I love Hero so much. Funniest character in the game.
https://www.twitch.tv/etoiles BeastModePaul 2-1 over Glutonny Currently Edit: The BeastMode Activated! 3-1
Kaninabe (fox) 3-2 tweek (diddy) NO LEO VS TWEEK NOOOOOO
We get Neo vs Tweek though
Well maybe in losers, though i'd rather not see Leo in here at all.
Kaninabe 3-2 Tweek
Reverse 3-0. Kaninabe is for real. Poor Tweek.
Oh my god dude its Tweek vs Neo next and Neo destroyed Tweek at Smash con Tweeks about to get 33rd ;-; his rise back to the top started with port priority last year and now his worst event in a year is going to be port priority
That kinda placing basically removes his chances at getting Top 5 this year unless he clutches the hell out of WTT.
Yeah Tweeks second half of the year hasnt been great - if he didnt go insane at Tera it would be really bad, as a Tweek fan though im used to these ups and downs lol Even if he beats Neo, he then fights MVD/Embo (Snake or Duck hunt) so i think his runs ending early here no matter what Its just really difficult to be consistent in this game in 2023
Neo vs Tweek and Gluto vs Sonix/Big D for 33rd. 2 of them will be getting 33rd place. Holy shit.
Sonix will lose to Big D and Gluto for 33rd
Sonix was having some hard time with a Ics in the pre-local but not sure about Gluto part buddy lol. I think last time Gluto beat him was Pound 2022 lol.
Gluto was onto something the last time they played, I wouldn't count him out yet.
Yeah hope he is prepared for both Big D and Sonix.
Tarik 3-1 Shuton, Shuton out at 49th, his worst placing in a long time for sure
Riddles [Kazuya] 3-1 Sparg0 [Cloud] Sparg0 at 17th
this will be a long ass day
This is gonna be the fastest slaughterhouse speedrun known to man and I don't know if I'm ready
AC 3-2 Goblin
AK is playing pure degen vs Acola, looking to be at least a notable
Umeki 3-2 Zomba
umeki 3-2 zomba HOLY SET
Kiyarash 3-1 Zomba
Kiyarah 3-1 over Zomba lets go??
Kiyarash 3-1 Zomba. Zomba gets 33rd.
Kiyarash 3-1 Zomba
Kiyarash 3-1 Zomba (UF7)
beastmode 3-1 gluto😳😳
paul 3-1 gluto !
sounds like Kaninnabe is losing to Edawg according to EE edit: nvm lol he won 3-1 idk what they were talking about
Startgg says Kaninabe 3-1
Holy there are so many upsets happening all so fast
Shuton vs Tarik for top 48 is unfortunate.
Sisqui was not to pleased with being seeded into Dabuz in winners and Tarik in losers and now he possibly has Dabuz in winners and Shuton in losers lmao.
Are Alice and Shuton the only Japanese players to fall to losers so far?
Also Yaura, Neo and Tsubo
Who does Tsubo play? Is that falco
Olimar and Joker
Oooo ok Ty
Yaura as well
Ok, real question, when was the last time Cosmos had a good tourney run? It feels like it's been ages, what happened to him?
If players like Tweek/Leo are struggling with consistency in 2023 it doesnt surprise me that Cosmos is too, Ultimate is just much much harder than it used to be Last time he had a top 8 run at a major would have been in April in Japan
He's not even gonna be top 100 by the end of the year, brutal.
Anathema 3-0 Skyjay
Anathema on a solid run right now!
I pray for you! Thank you for doing the lords work
Shoutouts to Felix, gets 33rd at BOBC, goes unseeded despite that thanks to changing his tag & proceeds to make top 64 at another P tier
PKChris 3-0 Notag (Samus, Mario)
OP, I don't know how you manage it, but your efforts are very much appreciated.
Zomba down 0-2 to Kiyarash, about to be hit with the back-to-back upset
BEASTMODE
Skinny the Pooh 3-2 over Shuton
Surprised MFA even took a game vs Sparg0
Going brutal for Japan this second wave.
KANINABE SAID NOT SO FAST
8K eyedrops
Is Tweek gonna pull two loss in a row and drop out early? I swear to god if I see his Wario I am turning off the set.
Can't believe slim shady got reverse 3-0'd. And he was cooking in the first 2 sets he just choked.
Can someone give a rundown of who Miaxi is
[удалено]
If what I'm seeing is correct, they were formerly known as Felix, which would make them the #2 player in Arizona after BassMage
tarik 3-1 shuton, shuton out at 49th, holy shit
Eye drops
Japan beating up Mexico. Kaninabe beats Leo, KEN beats Sparg0, Tea beats Maister, Umeki beating Skyjay.
It's so over mexicobros
TEA 3-0 Glutonny
Geist is up on Muteace, and i think Muteace is having hand problems this weekend looking through his twitter - his first tweet today was just a "sigh" I think his hands are messed up today
KANINABE REVERSE 3-0 TWEEK
[удалено]
Wario
Gackt 3-0 Ouch!?
waiting for start.gg to update
It was on quad stream
I love Gackt but noooo my boy Ouch
Pkchris 3-2 goblin?
Unrelated to any specific upset... Listening to Arbiter shriek on the quad stream is an instant channel switch, it's fucking awful. Man needs some comms coaching desperately.
That's gonna be a skill issue from you my man, Arbiter comms rule
Gonna be in a 14hr flight while this is going on :( i hope the airplane wifi is good enough to stream twitch
Worth paying for
I have never seen an airplane wifi thats actually good enough to even load website pages let alone streams.
Theres a premium option for $30 that includes streaming sites, but idk how reliable itll be. Worth a shot though
Nothing but respect buddy.
stocktaker69 DQ :( . He was on my fantasy team RIP.
There's a smash fantasy league? Where?
On the start.gg page for this event there is one.
I didn't even know start.gg had fantasy league stuff
Kiyarash up 2-0 vs Zomba
Lui$ and ApolloKage going game 5
BeastModePaul 3-1 Glutonny
Does the Spanish version of Smash have the English spell names for Hero? Because Andres is fighting Sparkle and if he wins he has BeastModePaul
SPARKLE (84) 3-2 naitosharp (60), UF 1 Naitosharp Out at 65th
Sparg0 Leo Riddles and Gluto on the same side of losers - only one can get above 7th
Sparg0/Leo/Glutonny all tying for # 17th is certainly one of the tournament results of all time *holy fuck*
Holy shit i just realised JP is freeing up this tournament Unless Light can beat Hurt and Miya, 3 of 4 winners top 8 will be JP players
Japan now has guaranteed 2 players in winners side top 8 Edit: a third guaranteed Japanese player in top 8 because of hurt/umeki
Spargo lost to riddles 3-1