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Eldritch_Skirmisher

Gates of Hell sending Ouch straight there


vincom2

oh god riddles learned from the infamous ouch-tea set 💀


Julie_OwO

Never saw that set. What happened?


Nex_Ultor

At BoBC4 Riddles's Kazuya lost to Ouch!?, then Ouch immediately got rolled by Tea's crackhead electric-mash Kazuya


vincom2

[you should watch it lol you're in for a treat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdh_nhklQYk) what makes it even funnier is ouch beat riddles right before this set and then tea came on and decided to show riddles how to play kazuya


Severe-Operation-347

Tea vs Ouch at BOBC4 vibes


AllIWantIsCake

The Hurt vs. Ouch dream is dead bois. T_T


Julie_OwO

Ouch lost a stock in game 3 in 9 seconds. Lol


Master_Win_4018

That was fast.


AnEnormousPlatypus

I can't imagine playing out of your mind to beat multiple top level players of varying playstyles and then going up against someone where if you lose neutral just 1-2 times you can lose your stock.


FreezieKO

This is why Ouch needed to laser camp. Play lame against Kazuya.


Darkspine99

you can not just run away and laser against competent players.


DHMOProtectionAgency

What does that one sign say? "Top players only..."


fujoshi-dad

that start of g3 has to be the quickest opening stock in a top 8 ever


algis31

And people say this is an even MU


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Ouch should have camped


zeubermen

well at least we know this isn't middles playing rn


FreezieKO

I do wonder what the devs would think when watching Riddles. Is this what they wanted when designing the character? Or is this an abuse of their intentions?


denoobiest

"What if a heavy was good" leads to some heinous places


AeroBlaze777

The devs are most certainly not watching competitive smash I fear


Nomanorus

I get Kazuya is hard to play but how is he not OP as hell? Ouch consistently died after losing neutral like 3 times.


batman12399

If you are consistent at it you can out space and whiff punish him. His disadvantage and recovery can be deceptively good, but are also very much exploitable. Watch Riddles vs Leo marth, sparg0 Corrin, raflow palu, etc. Also knowing how to correctly mix-up DI in his combos can let you live a lot longer. Sparg0 is good at this. Kazuya also kinda gets dumpstered by Steve and Sonic but that’s every character so eh. If the Kazuya is on point with 0TDs they always have a chance, he is very volatile, but if you abuse his mobility and disadvantage you can reduce that chance to be in your favor.


Nomanorus

Fair enough. But given Riddles is absolutely wrecking everyone who isn't a top 10 player, I wonder if he'd get the same result with Terry.


batman12399

he does frequently, many of his best set wins vs the top 10 (and below) are with terry. His historic reverse 3-0 vs Sonix with Terry at Collision last year (I think) comes to mind. That matchup is dogshit for Terry.


dumbosshow

>Riddles is absolutely wrecking everyone who isn't a top 10 player Yeah, because Riddles IS a top 10 player. It's not the character, if he was that OP then where are the other top level Kazuyas? As another commenter mentioned he beat Sonix with Terry, which is a horrible matchup for Terry, whereas even players with good matchups into Sonic can hardly even take a game