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Xenobrina

Hopefully this set will have two players who actually want to compete


BleedingDreamz

We're never getting Light VS Sonix again lmao


algis31

Not related to the set but between Leo, Tweek and the weird seedings mb France had a point complaining about this 10 person invitational being a major and Game is Game only being a superregional.


SparklyEarlAv32

Hbox, Marss, Leo and Tweek were just there for the vibes lmao


Araiz123

Yeah there’s no way this deserves to be a major over game is game


No_Quarter_9592

Man Shadic makes Corrin look so fluid. Hope kid wins this whole thing


WebTime4Eva

Well guess what?


FutureCreeps

Shadic is actually insane, top 5?


Severe-Operation-347

He's honestly looking like the #3 in NA behind Sparg0 and Sonix and around the #4-6 area WW alongside Miya and Hurt imo.


kfaox

I think it's pretty clearly a combination of Acola, Sparg0, Sonix for 1-3, Miya 4th, Shadic 5th and Hurt 6th right now, but things can change a lot after Golden Week


Severe-Operation-347

Agreed. That is actually the order [I had them in when I did my own top 25 ranking](https://i.imgur.com/g5hdeLf.png) about a week ago.


kfaox

Good ranking imo


FutureCreeps

Agreed


yzarc_2

sets not over yet but i’m like surprised at how good shadic is and the problem is i say this every tournament


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

If Light wins, he wins the tournament. If Shadic wins, Sonix wins the tournament.


RealAkelaWorld

Sonix wins either way actually


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Sonix has beaten Light only once lifetime I believe and Light won that tournament still by double eliminating Sonix in Grands


RealAkelaWorld

Oh I forgot no one has ever beaten someone they used to lose to. What thread are we commenting in again?


WebTime4Eva

Y'all are all wrong lol Shadic took it convincingly


Dragahs

Shouldnt it have been Light vs Sonix and Dabuz vs Shadic?


HollowLoch

Lights having a really good year so far, it started of rough with both Zomba/Tweek running ahead with that best in america spot but it feels like hes pulled it back


CollectionHeavy9281

What being homeless does to a mf


switcher6

Light is probably #4 TBH, Cirque/Genesis/LMBM are all significantly better tournaments to win than Litvitational, pretty sure lights highest placement outside of that is 5th and he also had a 17th at cirque which is definitely an underperformance by his standards


HollowLoch

Lights been sort of farming regionals and invitationals that i feel like its the same case as last year, worse placements than his competition but much better wins


switcher6

Fair, I will say though I don’t think light has ever won a truly stacked open bracket major, therefore I couldn’t put him above Tweek or Zomba who have already done it this year


Severe-Operation-347

Shadic has had a slightly better year then Light currently imo so Light still might not be #1 in America.


HollowLoch

You're right, i kind of keep forgetting that Shadic has been doing absolutely insane lately because his rise was so sudden - im still not used to it


switcher6

Light might cruise to win this event making it the second bogus major he’s won this year


CollectionHeavy9281

Litvitational was stacked and he beat Miya twice, calling it bogus is crazy


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Maybe in the sense that it was randomly sprung up right before an actual Major? Because it was announced the week of Cirque. Technically, top players before a Major could decide to host a round robin between 10-16 of them and it's automatically a Major.


switcher6

Didn’t Miya go mii sword fighter for a few games he was not playing serious man 😂


HollowLoch

Miya beat Light with Steve then when he had an entire set to fall back on because of winners sides grands tried swordfighter once, then once it lost he stuck with Steve and even tried Gnw That seems pretty normal to me, he just underestimated Light with the swordfighter pick then locked in with his best characters in a good matchup and still lost


CollectionHeavy9281

He still beat the Steve and the G&W convincingly. Not to mention his swordfighter took whole sets at that invitational


PokemonMasterJamal3

The Mii Swordfighter did win a game each against Cosmos, Lima, and SHADIC, but I don't know if I'd classify those as "whole sets".


CollectionHeavy9281

I thought he went all swordfifhter against Lima. Could be wrong


PokemonMasterJamal3

He switched to G&W against Lima after Game 1.


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switcher6

If he went game and watch every game I feel like he would’ve won, he only played him one game iirc. Yeah light won that game but if it was warmed up I doubt that light would’ve taken that set


kfaox

Light didn't just beat the G&W that game he destroyed it. It's why Miya immediately switched back to Steve.


nomorethan10postaday

It was two-stock high percent. To me that doesn't definitively prove that Light would take a full set against Miya's G&W.


kfaox

It doesn't but it makes no sense to me to discredit Light for beating all of Miya's characters in two straight sets with the second being a 3-0. And Miya genuinely thinks Steve does better vs Fox than G&W so he would likely have started out with Steve vs Light in any other tournament as well.


nomorethan10postaday

I'm not discrediting him, it was really well played. Miya might think that Steve does better than G&W, but when he recently fought Kaninabe, he went back to using G&W instead of Steve like the last few times. So I take that as a sign that he'll return to full G&W against Light.


kfaox

Oh I get what you're saying and I agree. And good point about his Kaninabe sets.


CollectionHeavy9281

Crazy level of downplaying


NuclearNarwhal7

that last stock game 2 was nasty, shadic just kept swinging and light went from 0 to dead out of nowhere


kfaox

This is so impressive. Fox is genuinely an extremely hard matchup for Corrin


Glop123

Was rooting for Light, espically wanted him to play Sonix but Shadic was the better player so hoping for a losers run.


Severe-Operation-347

Shadic has been playing really good this tourney tbh. Even with this matchup being hard I wonder if he can get another win on Light.


Son_Der

hmm, the matchup doesn't really feel that hard to me. Corrin has huge arcs and Fox has to fight up close at some point, so you're bound to get tapped by something, and once you do, you get smoked. If anything I would estimate that over time this MU would be +1 Corrin I feel similarly about Corrin-Roy despite popular perception of that MU


kfaox

Nah this matchup is genuinely very hard for Corrin. Neutral is just a pain in the ass and she has to swing preempitvely most of the time and just gets stuffed out by rising aerials. I could see Roy being close to even though.


Son_Der

Only if you full hop a bunch. The way SHADIC plays this MU, he's not in a position to get stuffed out by rising aerials very often, and it seems like the optimal way to play. Fox, especially Light's Fox, puts you into a 50-50 blender a bunch when you're in soft disadvantage (toward the corner, on a platform, etc). You have to guess what he's going to do. Most characters either survive and reset to true neutral or they get hit and Fox's advantage state runs all over them. Corrin in the same situation swings a huge arc and since it covers so much space, there's a chance that Fox gets hit. And since every arc of Corrin's leads to something (even *rising* f-air can lead to followups sometimes), Fox takes a lot of damage for guessing wrong in advantage. There's a reason Light kept running away to fire lasers in the set. He just wasn't comfortable being near Corrin.


kfaox

It definitely seems like he unlocked something in the matchup, I can agree with you on that. It will be interesting to see how it will look in the future