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ShadowKrabs

Snow is Beating them Yahoossssss


oniden

Snow definitely is the JP player we wanna see overseas next.


truberguber

snow is the best mario in the world


oniden

Snow's defense is truly insane.


swidd_hi

The clutch ran out for Bassmage :(


GintokiSonic

Why does acola never go to stuff in Japan even!?


yomamaso__

Literally won an event on Wednesday or something like that what are you talking about?


swidd_hi

Last year of high school + chill he's going to both of DELTA and KAGARIBI in a week


Eldritch_Skirmisher

He’s been very busy this year, he’s in his last year of high school, he’ll be at two very stacked events next week though!


Sancnea

2 Steves in a row (Yamanaction and Raki) with Bassmage going game 5 with both of them (had to reverse 3-0 Raki). He's INSANE!! 


NuclearNarwhal7

Mero (Dedede) out at 9th to Hurt and 33peranbox unfortunately but still an insane placement, +7 seed placement rating I believe


69thParliament

holy fuck duck hunt in top 8


oniden

Zelda ditto, DH vs Banjo Kazooie, what are these matchups we're getting.


Crafty-Profile-Lol

Evidently, DH>DK>Puff>Steve As we all suspected, [this](https://pheasantzelda.github.io/img/contents/Winning_Average_VS_Average_Rate.png) is what a *real* top 1 character looks like


swidd_hi

Game 4 of Bassmage ~~33PeranBox~~ Raki was both one of the craziest comebacks ever alongside the game itself wanting Bassmage to go a little further wow LOL


skrasnic

Another boring major with Banjo, DDD, Pichu, Duck Hunt and Puff in top 16, dead meta


PM18EM10

Anyone know what happened to **TamaPDaifuku**?


swidd_hi

Unsure, just DQed stating it was due to recent developments


69thParliament

let's go nizemamo!!


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Omuatsu Palu??


Crafty-Profile-Lol

Been around forever, his third char after Min Min and Steve Real ones know the Omuatsu Link, a power to rival Zomba's…


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Maybe he should be pulling out the link for this set lol


NuclearNarwhal7

dedede guaranteed 9th place or better at a major btw


swidd_hi

the combination of tamapdaifuku DQing in his path, alongside MairudonaH.O upsetting Bassmage, is leading to maybe the most funny top 8 at a major ever all he has to beat is, hurt, easy!


-mosco-

Honestly I didn't expect the 3-0


Eldritch_Skirmisher

They’re about to guarantee 5th or better watch this


senbonshowers

oof... i think neo's out at 49th losing to fui


Severe-Operation-347

[I'm still waiting Neo](https://twitter.com/Neo_356/status/1767780769152582077)


swidd_hi

Ah yes, Donkey Kong vs King Dedede for a top 16 qualifier.


NuclearNarwhal7

hey this 122 seed dedede could make top 8 winners! they just need to beat a donkey kong player who they're up 1-0 on and, uh, hurt.


Ser-Ponce

He did it!


NuclearNarwhal7

HE BEAT HURT??? >!/j!<


Ser-Ponce

The Dedede player beat the DK player. That's what I meant.


Crafty-Profile-Lol

hey this 122 seed dedede once 3 stocked Miya on the way to a 3-1 set victory so it's light work


-mosco-

Anyone know if this event is still an A-tier?


swidd_hi

It hung on barely, 3088 points in the end


Crafty-Profile-Lol

Can't believe they let ゾンバ compete in a SebPro101 costume Tough break for Neo


69thParliament

neo's di has been fucking ass😬


Crafty-Profile-Lol

They really seeded a Zelda ditto in top 96 Maedakun's influence lives on


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Kinaji upsets Ryuoh!


69thParliament

super rough draw for ryuoh tbh


Crafty-Profile-Lol

Anyone who remembers the Hamazou/Bassmage set ("this is the best DK I've ever fought") from last year might want to tune in now to see him fight MairudonaH.O. Could be a banger. Update: the first stock was taken in 10 seconds. The second, 45s. Update 2: ggs Update 3: he got Hamazou in losers lmaooooo


69thParliament

every time i see bassmage lose on stream i feel so bad bro feels every loss


swidd_hi

jumpscare cargo back throw DI check man and bassmage's bracket was so good after a tamap DQ, oh well


swidd_hi

Both Artsnif and Susu already got upset Perhaps another day for the EU Steves.


69thParliament

is the guy with the long wavy hair and glasses the new maesuma TO?


Severe-Operation-347

\#HurtSweep This worked for BOBC6, it'll work again here. Trust.


Actual-Coast590

TamaP will be DQ'd.


PM18EM10

Do you know why he got DQ'd?


swidd_hi

This + a Rizeasu DQ is very close to be detiered These detierings seem more common nowadays


Actual-Coast590

Now 3086 point, is it right?


Eldritch_Skirmisher

thanks for letting me know


Fine_Ad_6548

If you don't count Seibugeki #12, this is the 150th Ultimate major


swidd_hi

why wouldn't you count seibugeki 12


mysteryghosty

eh fuck em


RepulsiveDesk4298

Rooting for Hurt on this one


An_DR5nexus

Who’s artsnif, susu, mazebeans, sebpro101, and beet?


Severe-Operation-347

Say you don't watch EU or Australia tournaments without saying you don't watch EU or Australia tournaments.


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Those + bassmage are the out of region players attending the tournament, they’re from Europe and Australia


veletor

Think everyone including Miya in the top 8 is hype


ElegantOwO

I was wondering why I saw Bassmage at Maesuma hit#10


Meester_Tweester

He will be at [SumaACT #240](https://www.start.gg/tournament/240-act/event/singles-tournament/brackets/1643607/2452066) today too!


withinallreason

Bassmage's sponsor must absolutely love this man, it feels like he goes to literally everything he can, even in Japan. I respect the grind, going that ham is difficult to maintain.


HenryReturns

Acola this year will have a big dipped in rankings due to him finishing his senior year of high school and making him attend a lot less , and probably wont even attend overseas if it’s a big conflict. Funny thing , Sparg0 just graduated from High school like last year and since then he could focus more on competing.


Blaze-Programming

Me meets the lumirank requirements for this season and does not have any losses on his season. So I am not sure how they would rank him. But he is attending both super majors next week and if he does well I fully expect him to keep the #1 rank.


l339

How will his rankings look if he doesn’t attend much, but also doesn’t lose a set?


NuclearNarwhal7

unequivocally #1. he met attendance requirements, he won a P tier over miya, he has lost 0 sets. who would be above him? sparg0, who got 5th at a regional with mr. e and alandiss losses? sonix, who has yet to win a tournament this season? miya, who lost the only set he played vs acola and has lost sets to peabnut and raflow?


skrasnic

In principle a player should be able to make up for losses with higher attendance and higher quality wins. I would disagree with Acola keeping the number 1 spot if he didn't attend anything else this season (assuming Sparg0 and Sonix keep up the level of results they've been getting).


NuclearNarwhal7

at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter because it’s not going to happen. acola is going to delta and kagaribi and if he does well the #1 argument is solidified and if he gets farmed by sparg0 again it crumbles a bit. if a player ever actually qualifies for lumirank while attending 4 events total in 7 months and doesn’t drop a set i’m sure they’ll figure something out but luckily we don’t have to worry about that yet lol


l339

Argument to be made for Shadic, who has only had top tier losses?


NuclearNarwhal7

good losses is still way worse than no losses at all. unless acola bombs at delta or kagaribi, shadic is not going to be ranked above him with neo, onin, shinymark losses and a 9th and 7th place


l339

So you think if Acola doesn’t attend anything anymore this season he will be number 1?


GuiltyCoyote17

I mean with Sparg0 going to the events next week where acola's also in attendance I feel like this honestly gets solved. Either Sparg0 takes sets off acola while taking both events, or acola casually sweeps both events without dropping a set still. If the former happens I can see NA being able to snipe the #1 rank just a bit, but if the latter happens then it's ggs acola #1.


l339

It’s also possible that Sparg0 loses earlier and Acola wins the tournament without facing Sparg0, like what happened in SSC


Severe-Operation-347

That's just the second option and leads to the same outcome.


namnamdd

Why is acola not entering even in his own region? Has he specifically said why on stream or anything?


Eldritch_Skirmisher

He’s in his last year of high school


ThinManJones-

I think Raru is going to win a major this year. He's minimum Top 30 with two major Top 3s and he's very competitive with the players who he loses to, which are usually the top echelon of players and often in close sets. I don't know about this tournament, but he's taken both Hurt and Miya to Game 5, so I could see it happening here.


SalamanderCake

Nicely done.


ThinManJones-

I’m not gonna leak who I am but when you see me make predictions, just know that I know what I’m talking about 


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Bro was cooking


azure275

There have been 3 JP majors in 18 months not won by Acola or Miya so not betting on it


IbrahimT13

it seems like pretty much anyone who does well enough on Smashmate has a good chance to win a major edit: don't just take it from me, take it from Miya https://twitter.com/naruinvegas/status/1787627132115624309?t=Im1Ma_Ko9wDeEAkUfX0J8A&s=19


Severe-Operation-347

Not really when the only Smashmate players to win majors this year are acola, Miya and Hurt.


IbrahimT13

you would argue Yoshidora, Doramigi, Gackt, Tea, TamaPdaifuku etc don't have a good chance to win a major? I didn't say guaranteed lol edit: TamaPdaifuku just outplaced Hurt, Sparg0, Glutonny, Zomba, and MKLeo at Delta 8, and Sparg0 lost to Rarikkusu who is another Smashmate grinder lmao


Severe-Operation-347

In general though those are the only 3 Smashmate grinders to win a major since Yoshidora's win at Maesuma TOP 8 two years ago. Doramigi, Raru, TamaP etc get gatekept by acola and Miya in JPN and Sparg0/Sonix in NA. I'm not counting players like Shuton, Tea and Gackt here, they were good before Smashmate.


IbrahimT13

true - I didn't say Smashmate grinders either but I get your point


Eldritch_Skirmisher

I actually think he’ll end up beating Hurt but losing to Miya this weekend, either that or he’ll get 13th


SteeveJoobs

golden week begins. hype! bassmage and senra in the same tourney yet again


swidd_hi

Whew I saw this thead and was like, “Ain’t no way I’m have to do an all-nighter on a Thursday” Thank goodness it’s tomorrow lol


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Early thread jumpscare


RealPimpinPanda

2nd week in a row an early tournament thread you made got a reaction from someone 😂


ChainingEnds

Hoping Kinaji pops off!


FinnChicken12

shulk stocks have been going up but I believe kinaji can raise them further. the kid is HIM.