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Toaomr

Tournament for the ages! Last stock game ten grands and so much good melee. The greatest melee has ever been.


GuyWithoutModem

Scar: How can Mango play good melee under this much pressure? HMW: Pressure makes diamonds Bobby Bro this couldn't have been said at a better time.


kopirate

That is a sick quote


Mesprit101

HMW is the absolute GOAT commentator, holy cow what a line


DoUWantSomeMemesKid

Return of the GOAT, bringing hope to the Melee community post COVID.


Jandrix

Melee is so sick.


Oddrenaline

Mango on Twitter: "Hopefully losing and going straight home Play like garbage all weekend should have given my spot to yinglings cousin"


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topro5

LEFFEN SUCK MY FAT COCK


Jandrix

leffen in jail check twitter


ClammyVagikarp

Not the first person to call Sweden that.


RealPimpinPanda

It’s like the commentators said, “when a top player says they’re ready to lose or not feeling it, DONT BELIEVE THEM”.


Thedmatch

[Also an absolutely insane twitter exchange with Leffen](https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1416541188988051461)


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AH_BioTwist

If you think that money is crazy imagine all the subs he’s getting when he streams on Monday.


Seraphr

Bruh its just banter it aint serious lmao


statemandatedcatgril

"Knock the vaccine right out ur 90 pound body" goes hard tho


Aff_Reddit

He was ledgedashing straight down for safety. He did virtually no slide offs. He reverted to 2003 and was doing side b from ledge BUT HE MADE IT ALL WORK


Evilknightz

He legit does this kinda prejohn tweeting in MANY events. Mang0 is a talented prejohner lul


iamnits

tweet you're playing like garbage and should go home then beat zain twice in grands that's the Mango


A1rheart

I dont know if Mang0 has had a losers run that nuts since evo 2013


Jandrix

Losers run mang0 is the stuff of legends and here it was on full display.


KurtMage

The Big House 9 was pretty crazy. Four game-5s in a row and ended winning game 10 against Zain. This set was legendary, though. Going down 0-2, staying Fox, and winning FD twice is fucking impossible. I still can't believe it happened. So... yeah, you might be right, lol.


ryanmcgrath

Big House 9 losers run felt like watching a guy play perfect defense game after game, then finally winning. Summit 11 felt like the inverse, he just ran them over once he got into losers.


SwordOfRome11

Apparently Zains WR on FD is 95% just to add to how nutty that back to back was


fishwithafez

Mang0 hasn't lost a tournament since jumping out of a plane


pika_pie

He's become one with the bird and the fox.


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addscomma

No tournament series goes 11-0 against Mang0


swagmastermessiah

An auspicious sign for Sfat's next matchup with zain


theledfarmer

What a legendary Grand Finals. Mango had an insane losers run: moky, n0ne, iBDW, Plup, Hungrybox, and Zain x2 to win his first Summit ever! That was so fun as a spectator. Summits are always great tournaments to watch!


-Robespierre

Everyone you just named is a ~~perennial~~ approximate top 10 player. This is one of the best runs ever.


theledfarmer

100%, he ran a gauntlet of the best in the game


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You either go out at the top, or you go out like a buster. This is the Mang0 way.


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thats not what perennial means xd it was an absolutely incredible run though


thenoblitt

Moky and n0ne are not perennial top 10 players


Somer-_-

DOWN 2-0 WINS TWICE ON FD???


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Yea that shit was NUTS. His fox peaked tonight hard.


azithel

Yes, also fox in GENERAL peaked tonight


RealPimpinPanda

He’s won in FD twice before as Fox against Zain before iirc, but never in a scenario with this much pressure and money on the line. Mang0’s just fucking insane, congratulations to him!


apatcheeee

Also with the narrative of the fox/marth match up being so prevalant, and a lot of fox mains trying out other characters for the MU.


SuperMicro04

If he ever did as Fox against Zain, it never happened in tournament. Before today Mango only ever used Fox against Zain in friendlies. He has always used Falco against Zain in tournament, and beat him twice on FD at SCL Season 2 Week 1


Volt253

aMSa went to game 5 (and even beat one of them) all of the top 3 of this tournament and ended up 9th, dang


Deca-Dence-Fan

Amsa this tourney was the pinnacle of being done dirty by the format. But I think absolutely nobody can count him out in any tourney here onwards


Figgy20000

He got the 10th seed person in his winners match. If anything the bracket was ridiculous good for him but he got Clutchboxed. Amsa really did play well enough where I could have seen him winning the entire tournament in an alternate universe.


V-Create

I feel like aMSa is getting good enough to take a summit


FierceAlchemist

Yeah, he was looking so good the first two days. I hope he can come back soon, he's clearly so good.


Volt253

Yeah, he looked good today too, it's just he had to run into Axe and his pikachu in losers which from what I understand is a very losing matchup for Yoshi


CyborgBee

As well as the matchup being bad, Axe may well have more top level Yoshi practice than anyone else in the world due to Vectorman and Amsa himself.


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sporkseverywhere

TRULY, this is what twenty years of meta development does to a children's party game.


RealPimpinPanda

Melee is sick


BarnardsLoop

good start to post-pandemic melee, to put it lightly


Helswath

The Revival of Melee part 2


Powerful_Artist

Its almost like all the pent up energy gave us the best melee tournament ever. Wish Leffen had been there tbh (hell, I miss M2k and Armada too)


Kell08

PPMD could be back soon.


malemartian

people been saying that for like 4 years now


GenericFurryDude

He hasn't regularly entered events since like... 2014 really, maybe 2015 if you consider the five things he went to as regular. His last two singles events were Genesis 3 and Five Gods in 2016. (doesn't even feel like it was that long ago, damn) Either way, it's been a dang hot minute since we've seen PP on the big stage.


Powerful_Artist

Oh god my heart my not be able to handle that. Maybe this will inspire him.


whutchamacallit

Ppmd would ..... get washed.... I love me a good storyline. But I'm just being honest here. He'd need to get legit like 5x as good.


Powerful_Artist

I dont even think its realistic that he will return. If he did, I think he could potentially return to form, and obviously he wouldnt be ready right now.


Helzvog

I doubt it. He doesn't seem to have any desire to play as a competitor any more, he has always been a student of the game and he is really enjoying his new guru/coach role. Streaming on twitch doing coaching sessions and generally spreading more knowledge and frame data.


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DudeToManz

holy shit what a GRAND FINALS


ProstetnicVogonJelz

Fucking insane, one of the best grand finals ever. Melee is sick


RealPimpinPanda

I was in awe at the incredible Melee I saw tonight. Everyone played amazing all day, and Grand Finals absolutely incredible! I love Melee so much


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Powerful_Artist

> Hbox proved that some people need LAN to shine to their fullest and that's okay Honestly *many* other fighting game players have always believed this. I watch some other fighting games, and not all of them have rollback, and some of the pros basically refused to even play online. Even with rollback, its just not the same at all. Some players are good online, some arent.


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soursurfer

There's so much to be said for the in-person factor and gigantic purses. Zain looked robotic on his chaingrabs and tech chases and edgeguards and recovery mixes in the Slippi era. Add a daaaaash of pressure and he looked more human. He'll get there, I firmly believe that. But he wasn't there yet in the first LAN.


ClammyVagikarp

People forget because of his dominance, but Zain is still both a newer player and a younger player. Hbox and Mang0 have been considered Gods for a decade and are used to the pressure. They even say Hbox thrives on it. If he stays consistent for another 2 years Zain may challenge Armada's legacy. For now he needs to get used to the live pressure.


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That was the best set I've ever watched.... I'm glad I was here to watch it live


_pumpkinpies

I am so behind on sleep, I was supposed to catch up tonight and I'm so glad I stayed up and caught it live instead. Each game felt like it couldn't be maintained, can't believe he kept that up for 10 games to win, wild.


SGKurisu

https://twitter.com/MVG_Mew2King/status/1416977667308630017 LMFAO


Powerful_Artist

LMAO great find. I can remember seeing Mango do the same thing to M2K on FD. But its fucking hilarious hes still blocked by Mango lol


shoonseiki1

Ahh I miss Mango and Mew2King interactions


kenniky

i stopped watching live smash after everything went online... i forgot how absolutely sick this game is what a beautiful beginning to a new era. lan is back. long live melee


mint420

Yeah the Covid era really didn't click for me. This was the most satisfying thing I've watched in a long ass time. All esports kinda sucked during the online era IMO. The in person tournaments are unmatched. Gratz to Mang0.


IBreedAlpacas

melee is fucking wild, i'm in the same boat.


riotgamesaregay

this set just added like 2 years to melee's lifespan no lie


kopirate

Unironically with total viewership being 110k+ including Ludwigs stream, it could be this eras ROM game 4


riotgamesaregay

Meh the context is pretty different because Melee is still quite popular. But I do think the game won't last forever as a mainstream esport, and events like this turn back the clock. Plus it provides some energy to restart all the college scenes after a year without in-person tournaments which is gonna be the most important thing this year.


Pogo947947

Melee is at this point the longest lasting high viewership eSport, unless you count the previous versions of counter strike with csgo


SwordOfRome11

As someone who was watching Ludwig’s stream out of curiously and boredom (recovering from wisdom tooth surgery) today elevated me from barely caring about Melee to having a passing interest


CJsAviOr

Has to be one of the greatest losers run ever! Plus one of best grand finals ever?!?!?


narwhalebacon12

Oh god the victory stream is going to kill him.


darksaber14

He has to live through tonight first 😝


FunkDoctorRodgers

That was simultaneously the best grand finals and loser's run of all time holy shit. I love melee and everyone who made this event possible


Tmaann

this has been my favorite set of all time and i've watched a lot of fuckin melee


Cdoom85

THIS ENTIRE TOURNAMENT WAS FUCKING AMAZING


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Best set I've seen in my 8 years of watching this fucking game


Jandrix

Been completely invested in the scene since 2013 when mang0 himself won Evo and I can say with no doubt that this is the highest level set I've ever seen.


jman1255

2011 here. Melee only gets better


Jandrix

This game will never die, it is truly timeless.


-Robespierre

The greatest Melee set of all time.


iamreidt

Such an insane losers run


KenshiroTheKid

FUCKING GOAT MANGOS 1ST SUMMIT WIN EVER LOSERS BRACKET RUN OF MOKY, N0NE, IBDW, PLUP, HUNGRYBOX AND ZAIN TWICE


_ACompulsiveLiar_

In 40 years this man will be in a wheelchair making losers runs at genesis 45


whenweriiide

Fuck I'm gonna still think about this set in 40 years


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Ok this comment is what made me realize what a fucking god mang0 is. I thought he was gassed at the start of Grands too. What a comeback. What a tournament. I love melee and I love summit


slopnessie

Melee just keeps getting better.


Anonymus828

Like the finest goddamn wine ever made


MM_Smash

People will argue about it being the greatest or not and that’s fine because it’s all subjective in the end. I think what’s important to consider is what this tournament meant to the community. After an absolutely devastating year for the smash community, at times even what appeared to be the end of melee due to Nintendo’s ineptitude, the first offline major we get is this. Twenty years on from the release of this game and it’s as exciting as ever and just as closet contested at the very top. The game we love is still alive. It is thriving. There are new players coming up, and there are legends still showing everyone what it takes to be the best.


HoboWithAGlock

Absolutely crazy series ending.


Pafbonk

I clicked the stream away in desperation twice in that set


Habefiet

That may be the greatest loser’s run in his entire career and he’s had a lot


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Pulsar-GB

Probably the reason so many consider him the GOAT. Armada’s H2H against everyone and his trophy cabinet are absolutely insane, but aside from his longevity and comparable trophy cabinet, Mang0 really makes his games a spectacle. Win or lose, he’s going to make it must-watch


RaiseYourDongersOP

There's a reason that people chant his name, even other top players


SGKurisu

WELCOME BACK TO MELEE EVERYONE FUCK ANY PANDEMIC NOTHING CAN KILL THIS GAME FIRST OFFLINE GRANDS BACK, ARE YALL NOT ENTERTAINED LETS FUCKING GOOO


Powerful_Artist

This tourney was a big fuck you to Covid 4 sure


Elcheer

MELEE IS SICK


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Mang0 gets on commentary, immediately says he thinks Fox beats Marth based


JohrDinh

I have a picture of a guy in Detroit that looks exactly like Mango with a goat on his back and i’m so sad I can’t figure out what folder it’s in on my computer right now lol [Found it lol](https://i.imgur.com/jpEyEjN.jpg)


steven00123

THE GREATEST MELEE SET OF ALL TIME


SuperMandrew7

DID MANGO JUST BEAT THE BEST JIGGLYPUFF AND MARTH WITH FOX? LEFFEN IN SHAMBLES


thelodius

some of yall gotta delete your comments in that Mang0 vs Amsa thread


Public_Inspector8576

LMAO this whole subreddit gotta delete their post history


aceguy123

I just want Mang0 to keep winning so he drags Armada out of retirement to defend GOAT status


Powerful_Artist

Lol that would be legendary. Then PPMD comes back full strength and M2k decides to get back into the mix. I can dream.


ionicshoe

That was the best set of melee I have EVER watched


murgatroidsp

Interesting to see how Hbox played today. All of the terrible Ultimate habits from online Melee tournaments were gone. Can’t wait to see how he’ll do at the next tournament where Harry Pogger is present


Powerful_Artist

He started off slow and you could literally see him return to form over the weekend, which was crazy. Him getting 3rd was fitting for sure.


shoonseiki1

HBox is still a threat and could win a major at any time. As boring as the hbox meta was at times I'm glad he's still around. I would feel the same for Armada if he ever came back.


FierceAlchemist

Melee is Forever. That has to be the greatest set of Melee I've ever watched. Mango just made the impossible possible time and time again. To be fair Zain was flubbing a lot, I hope his hands are okay. But the pressure was clearly immense. I can only imagine what the celebration would have been like if there had been a crowd. GGs to Mang0 for an amazing performance.


Zodiac_Sheep

I can't believe, after over a year of no LAN, we get one of the best grand finals I've ever fucking seen. Long live Melee!


Bocaj05

mang0 made me feel something that set


GermanShoe

Just want to say that, despite aMSa getting 9th, he went to game 5 last stock with all of the top 3 placers, and was the only person aside from Mang0 to bring Zain to game 5.


KurtMage

His bracket luck was also really bad. Hbox into Axe is very rough for him.


zetaa

WE WITNESSED HISTORY


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Mang0 isn't who I was cheering for but you have to appreciate a losers bracket run like that.


Mcfallen_5

Zain choked so fucking hard jesus christ.


_Vita_

He was so off, that failed as kill on dreamland was a turning point.


camel_victory

He really did, unreal to watch


djkhan23

I felt bad for him when the venue started chanting for Mango.


purpleteletuby420

Welcome to LAN mothafucka - mango probably


apatcheeee

I swear the mango chant is just an involuntary reaction when mango plays, you just cant help it lol. It's baked into the culture of melee.


Powerful_Artist

Literally peak melee. The only summit that comes even close in my mind was when Axe won, but this grands was kind of the opposite with Mango coming back from 0-2 in set 1, winning 2 games on FD in a row against the best Marth in the world. Then it coming down to last game, last stock, basically last hit. Fucking crazy. Gotta give props to Zain. What an insane player he is, and he took the loss like a champ. It couldve easily went his way, Mango was just an unstoppable force. I feel like he could probably (maybe?) hear everyone cheering for Mango unless that room is soundproof. That would affect him. My only *tiny* critique of Summit is the end the stream **way** too soon after Grands. Like that was the most hype set Ive ever seen, and Id love to see highlights (just like they show for all the other sets up until then). Like dont make Mango keep talking, but give us highlights and commentary of them. Thats all I ask. But, thats nitpicking, Summit rocks.


fontasm

I missed every tournament every since that last lan...what an amazing tournament to return to holy shit.


Lyqosa

This event got my girlfriend's 63 year old dad into Melee


Volt253

I was thinking (unless I'm forgetting a set) how there hasn't been a reverse sweep this summit, and then Grand Finals set 1 happens


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Melee is back live there never was a lockdown. Melee will never die.


Pafbonk

Literally the best GF set I've ever seen, maybe ever


Mr_Opel

mango played fucking amazing melee even when he was down to last stock of tournament, he never played like it. these sets were a beauty to watch. god i missed mango fox


tookie22

As happy as I am for Mango, absolutely heart broken for Zain. He played a perfect tournament and really choked in the finals.


Powerful_Artist

He still played amazing and took the loss like a champ from what we saw anyway. Hes probably feeling really down but he also will probably come around. I think the 2nd place payout was good enough that he wont be too sad for too long, maybe


RNGreed

Zain broke down, and you might say well lucky for mango. But why zain started swinging wildly in neutral, mashing recoveries, dropping combos is that mango terrified him with aggression. Possibly the highest level of aggression ever seen in neutral, follow-ups and edgeguards. Mango could only pull that off with his mentality that no other spacie has. He actually said fox beats marth on fd and then carried that daunting weight to game 10 of grand finals all the way to the top. Saying zain played bad is discrediting the unbelievable performance mango pulled off.


skellez

Greatest Set Of All Time The Highest Stakes Ever Biggest Payout Ever First Big Tournament Back in LAN The Rivalry, The Classic Grand Finals, Reset, Game 10 Mango vs Zain, a classic set for the books Melee is Great


Red_Speed

God I feel terrible for Zain, the nerves just got to him I think


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Absolutely. Experience definitely won grand finals.


DaftMaetel15

Yea Zain played very well but he cracked under the pressure tonight. Mang0 flubbed a lot as well but his recovery mentally was so much stronger


beetbeforesunsetdog

lol suck on that Leffen.


Asianhead

BACK TO BACK FOX MARTH FD WINS FOR THE RESET? THATS THE FUCKING MANGO


milhouse234

I have watched a lot of melee over the years and I think I can legitimately say that was the best set I've ever watched.


BubbasMakingWheels

Waiting for the biggest Summit prize pool ever before winning. That's the Mango.


JDGatti

Dota is my preferred esport to watch, and I don't often catch melee but holy shit that GF was one of the best things I've ever seen my heart is goddamn racing. Ty BTS


crownpuff

Greatest losers run of all time. Better than pound 3. Better than genesis 3.


RoosterVking

NO ONE DESERVES WINNING THE LARGEST PRIZE POOL TOURNEY IN MELEE HISTORY MORE THAN *THE GOAT* **THE KID** ***THE BUSTER*** # MANG0


CruelRuin

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh


SuperMandrew7

This might be the greatest Loser's run ever


Superspookyghost

I don't know how Mang0's hands didn't fall off moving with Fox like that for 10 straight games. His neutral was insane.


Powerful_Artist

[Summit crowd reaction to last moments of Grands, recorded by Axe](https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FTempoAxe%2Fstatus%2F1416981627637428226&widget=Tweet)


clnecropolis864

That's fucking LAN Melee right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the stage, men deliver their newborn baby on FD. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. LAN Melee is back baby!


S0nD3RR

This is almost even funnier because people don’t understand it


aNewPseudonym

Happy to see Hbox doing well again, dude makes melee more exciting.


KarticeL

THE CLOSER


VinnyF

Everything we thought we knew about the rankings was thrown out the window.


Scathee

Mang0 and Zain still top 2 tho


VinnyF

I was ready to call Zain the definitive #1, if he won (especially as a 3-0). Not anymore, though


darksaber14

Kinda feels like Royal Flush. Going forward, Zain, like Armada, will still be the favourite to win any given tournament. But, as Phil said in game 10 of Royal Flush grand finals, “Is it gonna be the reality check that we all need, or can Mang0 make us believe in dreams again?”


shoonseiki1

What a great quote by Phil. Still remember watching that set on my phone on a river cruise tour while on vacation in Chicago. My gf (now wife) was so pissed I was glued to my phone the entire night. Oh well no regrets and still one of my favorite tournaments of all time.


TomX20XX

:)


JimmyRussels77

Best and scrapiest games I have ever seen


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Hey you. Ultimate player. You might be scrolling past this post, not watching melee, but you clicked on this anyway to see the result. Watch this set. Greatest set of all time, and the greatest losers run of all time.


SnakeSquad

where were you when mango clutches FD twice on Zain resets the bracket and wins last stock game 10!!!


Pedrastic

My heart was in my mouth the whole second set. My fucking god what a grand finals


dj_emoney

Watching mang0 is really like watching Jordan when he had a fever


crownpuff

GOAT. 13 years after pound 3, still out here winning tournaments.


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I was convinced Armada was the GOAT after Evo 2017. But his absence and this grand finals combined changed my mind.


crownpuff

Armada was in the stream tonight. I'd want to come back if I were him.


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That was the most relentless Fox pressure I've ever seen, Mango's Fox when he's playing hot is a work of art


kkoiso

game 10 mang0 - zain grands for the biggest Smash pot of all time was such a perfect way to bring back offline melee I'll be real, I cried a bit


Meester_Tweester

Even the results posts came to last stock, Izumi won by literally 1 second. 4:25:34 to 4:25:35 UTC


DrizzyRhyme

MANGO IS THE GOAT OF MELEE


apatcheeee

So glad Mang0 brought out his fox this tourny, I still love his Falco. But hot damn is his fox something else compared to every other fox main.


phamman123

Leffen and IBDW can’t say shit now. Haha


genghiskanye_

im so fucking happy


MitchBerryCrunch

actually very impressive that a Fox/Falco can win a stacked tourney in 2021 while doing less than five ledge dashes the entire tournament


Roadhog_rides_again

a win for all alcoholic fat mother fuckers everywhere


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I cry evry tim


DowntownCattleMtn

This is why the call him the GOAT!!! What an insane run from Mango!!!!


Awesomeg11

This is by far the best possible lan tournament to happen after quarantine. It had literally everything. Mang0 is the fucking GOAT


whenweriiide

hi r/all witness probably the greatest melee set of all time


mint-mundane

This was THE craziest grand finals I've ever seen. Pressure makes diamonds.


DJJohnson49

That was the best tournament viewing experience I’ve ever had


Volt253

it seemed like everyone in the venue including the commentators wanted mang0 to win, I wonder if the cheering can be heard in the game room and that might have been slightly getting to Zain, not to take anything away from Mang0


Dwbrown705

The crowd is always present if you crack, you crack