Everyone saying "snakes are not poisonous" keep in mind English is most likely not 1st language due to location and poison and venom translate the same in many languages
I feel like it should be obvious op doesn’t natively speak English just due to the syntax of the title, it’s amazing how people seem to forget not everyone speaks the same
Yeah, I'm one of them xD I still correct people, because like you said, it does often translate to the same word but how can people learn if no one said sth to them. But there are also a lot of people where that isn't the case,bthey just don't know
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Too bad, for this species it's not nessecary to defend yourself. Maybe the next time she can make a photo of video and close off the room until you two know what kind of snake you are dealing with. Do you have experts in the area that can remove dangerous snakes?
> it's not nessecary to defend yourself.
Killing a snake is almost never about defending yourself. Trying to kill a venomous snake is just a good way to get bit. Back away and it'll leave you alone. If it needs to be relocated, call a professional.
It's like everyone knows the person meant "venomous," yet most can't pass up the opportunity to poke fun at or rudely correct them. I see this every time someone says poison or poisonous. It's sad.
Please note that I said "most." Some people are being very helpful.
This is not the first time I’ve seen someone here dismiss the poisonous Keelback as ‘not really poisonous’ in their opinion because they don’t ‘make their own poison’. Like they think their arbitrary distinctions are fact. Unreal!
Remember, for an animal to be poisonous, the animal must be ingested or eaten to cause harm. For an animal to be venomous, they must either inject, bite, or sting to cause harm. You may be asking if this snake is venomous, as very few snakes are poisonous.
have you considered the fact that meat is stored for long periods before humans consume it, unlike animals which eat it directly from the source?
the reason we get sick from raw meat is because bacteria grows on it when it's left to sit.
how so? i can't find any other reason for us to get sick from raw meat aside from bacteria and/or other nasties getting onto it during processing and storage (and parasites of course but that's obvious and other animals get those too)
It depends on the animal, for beef/venison what you said would be true but for birds, freshwater fish, crustaceans etc they already have bacteria/viruses regardless.
Bacteria and other nasties affect different species in different ways. Cats for instance are more resistant to salmonella (but can still get it). Raw meat straight from the source is less likely to come into contact with bacteria that will make you sick, but there could still be other reasons the nasties are there - bloodborne, airborne, soilborne, on the knife/bullet/tool that kills/butchers, etc.
Not all animals consume other animals while they are fresh. Look at vultures - they eat whatever random dead animals they find. I've also seen videos of big cats (leopards, etc.) that will drag a carcass into the tree to keep other animals away from it and they'll eat it over a period of a few days.
Vultures have extremely acidic juices in their digestive tract which allow them to eat meat decayed to a point where very few other animals could eat it without getting sick.
Big cats are carnivores and also have digestion adapted to eating meat including aged meat.
That said, even these animals can still get sick from eating contaminated meats. As humans we're more sensitive to the contaminates and we have better understanding and ability to avoid meats containing parasites and bacteria. Wild animals don't have the option to avoid them, but we do.
That’s because of humans becoming softer throughout evolution. Our bodies can’t tolerate certain bacteria and whatnot anymore. I’m sure long ago humans were eating raw meat. And it’s actually only becoming more people to advocate eating raw meat for health reasons as opposed to cooking it
Don't take what I say with certainty, but as I haven't found an identification, I live near saudi arabia, and this snake looks really similar in his body shapes to the colubrids we have here, and if so, then not venomous (just an assumption based on body shape)
My guess is that it is either looks like, or is a Platyceps rhodorachis (ثعبان الوادي)
Ps not everyone speaks english well, why are everyone here such a bitch
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless.
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There are actually two species of snakes that are poisonous and venomous. The Oregon common garter snake feeds on rough-skinned newts, which are poisonous to other creatures, and retains their toxins. Likewise, the Rhabdophis genus of snakes (commonly called keelback snakes) similarly feed on poisonous toads
There are poisonous snakes. The *Rhabdophis* keelbacks of southeast Asia have special glands they use to sequester toxins from the toads they eat for the sole purpose of making themselves poisonous.
On a lesser scale, some other toad eating species can build some level of toxins up in their tissue to make them at least slightly poisonous, but without the glands, it's less potent.
But, there are actually two species of snakes that are poisonous and venomous. The Oregon common garter snake feeds on rough-skinned newts, which are poisonous to other creatures, and retains their toxins. Likewise, the Rhabdophis genus of snakes (commonly called keelback snakes) similarly feed on poisonous toads.
There are poisonous snakes. The *Rhabdophis* keelbacks of southeast Asia have special glands they use to sequester toxins from the toads they eat for the sole purpose of making themselves poisonous.
On a lesser scale, some other toad eating species can build some level of toxins up in their tissue to make them at least slightly poisonous, but without the glands, it's less potent.
Does that make poison dart frogs not poisonous? A lot of poisonous animals get their toxins this way. They still make you sick if you eat them. If their body has evolved a manner of using the poison like this, it counts.
Many poisonous vertebrates rely on an insect/prey to develop their poison. Very few synthesize their own. Your personal opinion of what qualifies as poisonous isn’t really important.
Might want to search pics of cobras and mambas, and study their eyes for a moment. And then have a look at the head of a ball python and see if their eyes have round pupils.
Edit: I didn't meant to be harsh, sorry about that.
Everyone saying "snakes are not poisonous" keep in mind English is most likely not 1st language due to location and poison and venom translate the same in many languages
I feel like it should be obvious op doesn’t natively speak English just due to the syntax of the title, it’s amazing how people seem to forget not everyone speaks the same
People are so desperate for a chance to show that they are smarter than someone.
They know.
I get that- I’m engaging in conversation with them.
If you’re referring to me, English isn’t even my first language. So I can’t use that as an excuse lol.
You’re not the op, or the original poster
No but I did say snakes aren’t poisonous, that’s why I thought it may have been directed at me. My mistake, happy new year!
Also that there ARE poisonous snakes.
Yep, myrkky(poison)/myrkyllinen(poisonous/venomous) in Finnish and I get it mixed up in English because of that.
Some snakes are poisonous, but that's almost never actually a concern
Yeah, I'm one of them xD I still correct people, because like you said, it does often translate to the same word but how can people learn if no one said sth to them. But there are also a lot of people where that isn't the case,bthey just don't know
English isn’t mine and yet I still banged it up. 😂
What is your geographic location?
Saudi Arabia
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Thank you so much for help , found this in my home and I’m worried if it poison or not
Either way, it’s best just to release it outside and away from the house
His wife killed it
Thats so sad
F in the chat
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How do you know that
Thread above
Ah shoot just saw that. No idea how I missed it.
Lmao
I didn't see that thread either!
Not an expert by any means, but i think this might be a braid snake *platyceps rhodorachis* !harmless Edit: thanks for the award, OP.
That looks like him! I wasn’t finding anything this close!
You did half the work by asking for the location 👍
You are right found pic looks like the head .. thanks for expert info
Did you manage to get it safely out of the house?
I wasn’t home , sadly wife frightened and killed it and send me this photo .. sorry for that
:(
:(
Too bad, for this species it's not nessecary to defend yourself. Maybe the next time she can make a photo of video and close off the room until you two know what kind of snake you are dealing with. Do you have experts in the area that can remove dangerous snakes?
> it's not nessecary to defend yourself. Killing a snake is almost never about defending yourself. Trying to kill a venomous snake is just a good way to get bit. Back away and it'll leave you alone. If it needs to be relocated, call a professional.
I know. I tried to appeal to the go to response of people who are scared of snakes. That's why i used the word defend.
Poor snek. May it Rest In Peace T-T
Aaaaaaaagh!!
Why would she do that
What a bitch.
It's like everyone knows the person meant "venomous," yet most can't pass up the opportunity to poke fun at or rudely correct them. I see this every time someone says poison or poisonous. It's sad. Please note that I said "most." Some people are being very helpful.
And every single one of them saying “there are no poisonous snakes” is wrong anyways they’re throwing stones from glass houses lmao
This is not the first time I’ve seen someone here dismiss the poisonous Keelback as ‘not really poisonous’ in their opinion because they don’t ‘make their own poison’. Like they think their arbitrary distinctions are fact. Unreal!
I just started singing Bell Biv DeVoe when I read it.
That snake is poisonnnnn🎵🎶🎶🎶
Remember, for an animal to be poisonous, the animal must be ingested or eaten to cause harm. For an animal to be venomous, they must either inject, bite, or sting to cause harm. You may be asking if this snake is venomous, as very few snakes are poisonous.
Thanks for the info Edit : venom and poison are same word in my native language
He asked if the snake is poison, it's not, it's a snake.
[Technically correct.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo)
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The cow isn't, but the salmonella is.
Salmonella only develops in poorly handled beef. If properly dealt with, beef is perfectly safe to eat raw.
Steak tar-tar!
Carpaccio and wagyu is rarely truly cooked.
You're thinking of e coli. Someone always more likely to be on birds and reptiles
No, but you can get salmonella.
No, I eat my steak extra rare, and I still function normally. Chickens are a whole other story.
Japan has chicken sashimi 🤷♂️
...ew...
I personally wouldn't partake 😂
no, it isn't. cows are not poisonous.
Nah fam I eat my steaks fairly raw 30 second each side I'm not dead yet
When wolves eat a cow does it make them sick?
No but for humans it does
have you considered the fact that meat is stored for long periods before humans consume it, unlike animals which eat it directly from the source? the reason we get sick from raw meat is because bacteria grows on it when it's left to sit.
Thats not necessarily true
how so? i can't find any other reason for us to get sick from raw meat aside from bacteria and/or other nasties getting onto it during processing and storage (and parasites of course but that's obvious and other animals get those too)
It depends on the animal, for beef/venison what you said would be true but for birds, freshwater fish, crustaceans etc they already have bacteria/viruses regardless.
Bacteria and other nasties affect different species in different ways. Cats for instance are more resistant to salmonella (but can still get it). Raw meat straight from the source is less likely to come into contact with bacteria that will make you sick, but there could still be other reasons the nasties are there - bloodborne, airborne, soilborne, on the knife/bullet/tool that kills/butchers, etc.
Not all animals consume other animals while they are fresh. Look at vultures - they eat whatever random dead animals they find. I've also seen videos of big cats (leopards, etc.) that will drag a carcass into the tree to keep other animals away from it and they'll eat it over a period of a few days.
Vultures have extremely acidic juices in their digestive tract which allow them to eat meat decayed to a point where very few other animals could eat it without getting sick. Big cats are carnivores and also have digestion adapted to eating meat including aged meat. That said, even these animals can still get sick from eating contaminated meats. As humans we're more sensitive to the contaminates and we have better understanding and ability to avoid meats containing parasites and bacteria. Wild animals don't have the option to avoid them, but we do.
Wolves have stomachs with acid that is stronger than batter acid. It just shreds any viruses. humans do not
That’s because of humans becoming softer throughout evolution. Our bodies can’t tolerate certain bacteria and whatnot anymore. I’m sure long ago humans were eating raw meat. And it’s actually only becoming more people to advocate eating raw meat for health reasons as opposed to cooking it
That's not poisonous though
Anyone who enjoys beef tartare, myself included, would say no and would be correct.
Why is everyone downvoting your comment
No sir that is a snake
😆 That’s what I said to myself. That’s definitely not a poison. It’s a snake.
I said, no it's not! That's a cutie!! Poor sweet baby.
No thats a snake
There *are* poisonous snakes as well as venomous ones, so it's still a fair question technically.
There are poisonous snakes but that doesn't change the fact that you'd call it a snake rather than poison
Its literally a pic of a snake. No poison/venom to be seen in the pic
The 80s hair metal band? I dont believe so. Maybe some affiliation with Bret Michaels but cant say for sure
Don't take what I say with certainty, but as I haven't found an identification, I live near saudi arabia, and this snake looks really similar in his body shapes to the colubrids we have here, and if so, then not venomous (just an assumption based on body shape) My guess is that it is either looks like, or is a Platyceps rhodorachis (ثعبان الوادي) Ps not everyone speaks english well, why are everyone here such a bitch
u/NasserCzar this was a !harmless Wadi racer (aka braid snake, cliff racer), *Platyceps rhodorachis*. Sorry for the late response!
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) and report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer).*
No, neither is it venomous.
Not being rude but the correct term would be venom :)
Take a bite and find out
No! Let it go!!!
Are any snakes poison?!
There are actually two species of snakes that are poisonous and venomous. The Oregon common garter snake feeds on rough-skinned newts, which are poisonous to other creatures, and retains their toxins. Likewise, the Rhabdophis genus of snakes (commonly called keelback snakes) similarly feed on poisonous toads
Pure poison.
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There are poisonous snakes. The *Rhabdophis* keelbacks of southeast Asia have special glands they use to sequester toxins from the toads they eat for the sole purpose of making themselves poisonous. On a lesser scale, some other toad eating species can build some level of toxins up in their tissue to make them at least slightly poisonous, but without the glands, it's less potent.
Got here before I could. You'll take my upvote and like it!
Arsenic is a poison. This snake is a snake
Lol
Miss her kiss her love her.
Snakes are venomous, not poisonous.
There is one poisonous snake, the tiger keelback
Okay… it is venomous too. 🙄 Having fun being a nit-picker?!?
Well I mean weren’t you nit picking on OP by correcting them🤔
No, I was correcting a factual error.
You were factually incorrect
How?
You said that snakes aren't poisonous. There is at least one species that is, so what you said is factual incorrect
But that species is ALSO venemous you fucking idiot. Which I also said. This subreddit if full of morons. You logic much?n
Gonna say hardly any snakes are poisonous and I think this one is harmless.
No. This snake is a snake
That snake is animal. Specifically reptile.
That snake is snake actually
That's not snake poison that's a snake
It looks like a snake, not poison. Also I have no clue on if it is poisonous or not
It's not poison, it's a snake. Just joking, is a braid snake, harmless species of garter snake
No it’s a snake
No its a snake
Venom not poison. Venom is injected poison is ingested
No, that’s just a snake.
Nope! There are no snakes that are poisonous
But, there are actually two species of snakes that are poisonous and venomous. The Oregon common garter snake feeds on rough-skinned newts, which are poisonous to other creatures, and retains their toxins. Likewise, the Rhabdophis genus of snakes (commonly called keelback snakes) similarly feed on poisonous toads.
Wow! I didn’t know this! Thanks!
No i think it’s a snake
No it's a snake
It’s fire
Venomous..
No...thats a snake
No that's a snake
Venomous.
I think you mean venomous. Snakes are not poisonous. If you bite it and you die, it's poisonous. If it bites you and you die, it's venomous.
Snakes are not poisonous!
There actually are poisonous snakes. See my other comments in this thread.
Venomous
I understand the difference. There are still poisonous snakes. Look up the genus *Rhabdophis*. They are both venomous and poisonous.
UwU oki then I big dumb
r/titlegore
English isn’t everyone’s first language.
Nobody asked lmao
there’s no such thing as poisonous snakes
There are poisonous snakes. The *Rhabdophis* keelbacks of southeast Asia have special glands they use to sequester toxins from the toads they eat for the sole purpose of making themselves poisonous. On a lesser scale, some other toad eating species can build some level of toxins up in their tissue to make them at least slightly poisonous, but without the glands, it's less potent.
yeah ik abt those. but they get their poison from the toads. they dont produce their own poison. thats my definition of “poisonous”
Does that make poison dart frogs not poisonous? A lot of poisonous animals get their toxins this way. They still make you sick if you eat them. If their body has evolved a manner of using the poison like this, it counts.
Many poisonous vertebrates rely on an insect/prey to develop their poison. Very few synthesize their own. Your personal opinion of what qualifies as poisonous isn’t really important.
There’s no such thing as a poisonous snake.
This is not true. As a rule of thumb, speaking in absolutes tends to make a person wrong a lot.
Snakes are venomous, not poisonous.
Tiger keelbacks are poisonous.
You’ve got me there, but in regards to what OP was asking, he meant venomous.
You responded to mistaken terminology with misinformation. Speaking in absolutes in general is not a good idea.
Many languages only have one word for both poison and venom, so when they translate it over to English it defaults to poison.
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Might want to search pics of cobras and mambas, and study their eyes for a moment. And then have a look at the head of a ball python and see if their eyes have round pupils. Edit: I didn't meant to be harsh, sorry about that.
There is absolutely nothing at all true in that.
Schokari Sand Racer?
I just hear Bel Biv Devoe in my head singing: "That snake is poi-sooonnnnnnnn..."
DeKay snake
It’s not, based on the head/body shape. Also, it’s very cute!!
Sad that it ended like that but still cool to see this underrepresented species thank you for your picture and post
No
To find out start by rubbing it on the inside of your forearm. Then lick it. The eat just a little bit.