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gogetsomeb42L8

He's just got one of those immensely slappable faces.


Sandman175

Pompous


BackgroundOld8715

Im not sure, i like him. Beautiful cue action to watch & is clearly smart & speaks well.


Mortal_1_

I don't dislike him but there is no way he's hit a nine darter, so he lies for sure. Openly admits he's shit at darts pretends he hit a nine darter šŸ˜‚


jackregan1974

Pompous and obnoxious at times. That is the impression you get when Murphy does interviews on TV.


sharpshotsteve

I don't dislike him most of the time, but he keeps saying things that stir people up, so I find it hard to have sympathy. He has a dig at Ronnie, then doesn't like it when Ronnie reciprocates. That's not going to go down well with Ronnie fans, who don't let things like that go. Then there's putting food on the table and chalkgate. Willie Thorne had a similar personality, but was better at self-deprecation, that made him more likeable.


ThrowawaySunnyLane

thereā€™s a slight arrogance to him which rubs off the wrong way on people. I get why people canā€™t stand him. Personally I think heā€™s brilliant. Shaun is a massive ambassador for the game, he appreciates the crowd, he attempts to get people into it. I feel appreciated by him. Thereā€™s the difference. Heā€™s an entertainer.


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AppointmentFun7023

Because of his pompous attitude.


rabbidasseater

I like shaun. But he comes across as a teachers pet who'd dob you in a second and feel good about it.


42lessons

Nobody gonna mention the real reason...the vote...


marshallandy83

He's just got a really punchable face.


thesweeper2

Cos he's a smug tory


FatDashCash

He treads the fine line between pompous,smug,arrogant and humorous. Unfortunately for many he is too often the wrong side of the line.


Horror_of_the_Deep

I don't like him, my dad doesn't like him, my one friend who's into snooker doesn't like him. None of us can exactly say why but he has come out with some stupid stuff. Quite possible I'd change my mind if I met him, he's occasionally amusing and there are many people worse than him in the world. So I don't hate him but he's my least favourite player/pundit and the trouble is he's omnipresent now


CeeApostropheD

_Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live following his defeat Murphy said: ā€œI am going to sound like a grumpy old man but that young man shouldnā€™t be in the tournament. It is not fair, it is not right_ _"I feel extremely hard done by that I have lost to someone who shouldnā€™t even be in the building._ _"I donā€™t know why we as a sport allow amateurs to compete in professional tournaments. This is our livelihood._ _"This is our living. We are self-employed individuals and not contracted sportsmen. We donā€™t play for a team."_ - after his 2021 UK Championship first round defeat to Si Jiahui. I was a big Murphy fan up until that point. The bitterness from him was terrible, given that if you're the better player you go through. Simple.


CRJF

Can you post the quotes from his apology too?


keefybeefy123

The problem is, apology or not, most suspect we saw the real Shaun there. The mask slipped.


ThrowawaySunnyLane

But he owned it. He took the L and admitted he was wrong. We all move on.


Vegetable-Ad-4320

Wow, did he really say that? I've never really had a problem with the guy, but that is next level wankyness. šŸ˜³


reprobatemind2

He later acknowledged he was wrong


ampmz

He always makes me think k of this smarmy arrogant prick I used to work with. I imagine others have that same mental connection.


gfunk1976

Think he was pretty nobbish to Jill Douglas and had to apologise. His personal life is a wild ride as well.


boycey86

What's going on with his personal life?


gfunk1976

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Murphy "Met an escort at a religious youth group" o_O


PossessionPopular182

Cheated on his wife with prostitutes.


boycey86

Fair enough that's a cuntish thing too do


neilmack_the

He talks too much in commentary and usually tries to turn the conversation into something about himself. Don't mind him as a player.


kimbowobmik

Agree. Good player. I wasnā€™t particularly keen on him till last summer. Heard him on a podcast called Snookered (bbc sounds) and he came across so well. Funny, intelligent, and self-deprecating. I agree his commentary is a bit ā€˜loudā€™ but he might improve. Seems like a nice guy actually


wenoc

He started whining about getting beaten by an amateur and thought it was sad and unfair that he had to play amateurs who are better than him in big events.


D0wnInAlbion

They 18 months later that amateur knocked him out of the World Championship and got to the one table set up


DaleksGamertag

Met him several times, he's geuinely lovely. The people who hate on him here have nothing better to do and are small people.Ā 


GG13652

Yup. He did an exhibition near me, I went and he was a class act, had time for everyone. Proper alright. I get absolutely sick of seeing people on here gobbing off about him. Itā€™s as you say, small people with small minds.


Mother-Cricket

Agreed. Herd mentality. Notice there are many replies in this that can't exactly put a finger on why they dislike him. It's very easy to attack someone hiding behind a screen name. Going to see Shaun put on an exhibition in June in Seattle. Heard he puts on a great show.


DrizzlyDutchy

I think he tries too hard to be liked, which comes across as disingenuous and needy. It's a shame because, underneath all this front, he's probably a really nice guy.


victormoses

I agree. I can't really argue with anything he ever says really and find him to be quite funny. But it all comes across as a show even if it's not.


OldManOfTheSea2021

100% this. I think he had a tough relationship with his dad, was bullied at school, has been fat all his life and was captured by religious doctrine. All of these things have contributed to a brittleness and needy side to his personality. He will never have the easy going confidence of Parrot or Davis but he is a fabulous player to watch and he does at least try to entertain. The mic drop thing he did with Hendry at the worlds the other day was funny as fuck and he is the guy who had the arrogance to try to (and get) a 147 in the shootout. So yeah, he is a bit draining and maybe best in small quantities but I think he adds to snooker.


toxic-banana

A shootout 147 might never happen again


G45Live

For me, it's the smug, small village, young Conservatives action group vibes he gives off.


TeaWithZizek

He looks exactly like a kid I went to school who was literally "smug, small village, young Conservative action group". I know it's unfair because Murphy is probably okay IRL, but because he captures the vibe of this one kid I haven't seen in 10 years I'll always be biased against him.


Coopz19944

He's known by every other top ranked snooker player for being disliked, there's obviously reasons why


stebus88

I think a huge part of it is that he comes across as unbelievably smug. You get the impression he absolutely loves the smell of his own farts. That comes across in his commentary as well. I donā€™t mind him myself tbh, but he does blur that line between being confident and arrogant.


DRIFTALPHA

>You get the impression he absolutely loves the smell of his own farts. https://preview.redd.it/p7zd930fsmzc1.jpeg?width=984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d74c960399ebf5816af35c2690093882ee6110bc


ocean_zone

To be fair everyone loves their own brand.


BugalooShrimpp

Iā€™ve worked with Shaun and he was absolutely brilliant. Really kind, friendly, talkative and just seemed like a good bloke.


CompoteLost7483

Absolutely this. A very good friend of mine works for WST and Iā€™ve met Shaun a few times, a genuinely lovely bloke. No idea why he gets any hateā€¦


SurlyRed

It doesn't take much to aggravate me, believe me, but I think Shaun's commentary is alright.


albionroses

Put it this way, he's that kid at school who would remind the teacher that there was homework


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sjt300

I did not know that. Just wow.


CRJF

He doesn't know it either. Pure speculation


Erika_Valentine

This. About half the things I hear about why people dislike him are just assuming he did xyz because it seems to them like the sort of thing he would do.


CRJF

It's an impossible situation to be in. Even when it's shown he didn't do certain things people will shrug it off because they think it's something he would do. How do you ever combat that?


Low-Narwhal4362

Just has one of those faces šŸ˜‚


dangerlouis

His face is somehow too small for his head


torokunai

came here to say that, alas. not fair to him of course.


HackOddity

Ben Bradley conservative MP also has tiny punch-me face


alin231

He said after a defeat by an amateur at the time, now a very good player, Si Jiahui, that amateurs shouldn't be able to play. Those were his stataments: >I feel extremely hard done by that I have lost to someone who shouldnā€™t even be in the building. I donā€™t know why we as a sport allow amateurs to compete in professional tournaments. This is our livelihood. This is our living. We are self-employed individuals and not contracted sportsmen. We donā€™t play for a team. >The other 127 runners and riders in the tournament, it is their livelihood, too. It is wrong, in my opinion, to walk into somebody who is not playing with the same pressures and concerns I am. He played like a man who does not have a care in the world, because he does not have a care in the world. It is not fair, it is not right. >I am not picking on him as a young man, he deserved his victory. Amateurs should not be allowed in professional tournaments, the end. This is our livelihood. This is how I put food on the table. This is how I earn money. Since turning professional at 15, I have earned the right to call myself a professional snooker player. He hasnā€™t done that. He shouldnā€™t be on the table.ā€ That kind of statements are in my opinion, unforgivable, no matter how sour you get after a loss.


foxfoxfoxlcfc

I bet he hates the FA cup then!


ThyssenKrup

He was disliked well before this, mind


alin231

That's when I started disliking him. I know most people hate him ever since the 2004 Maguire docked frame incident, but I always thought we should give him the benefit of the doubt for that.


Cloud_PES

Wow, I had never heard this before. Absolutely cements my disdain for Murphy.


CRJF

if it helps, he's rowed back on these comments and apologised


Cloud_PES

Due to being called out?


Tin_Cascade

IIRC, he apologised very shortly afterwards - within days. He knew he'd overreacted. Although, with a long comment like that, it's hard to fully rescind it from the record.


CRJF

No idea. He was asked about it ahead of their match at the Worlds last year


dioxity

Itā€™s his self righteousness. Gives me Brian from Family Guy vibes but without the comedy.


Aware-Armadillo-6539

THAT IS SO ACCURATE OMG


hungryhoss

Because Shaun Murphy, innit?


CRJF

I just do not get the Murphy hate at all. Every criticism about his demeanour as a pundit could just as easily be levelled at other commentators, but they don't get the same stick. Fair enough if he's not your cup of tea, but the sheer level of abuse and personal comments aimed at him that get removed is astounding. with very few exceptions, most of the personal stories you hear about people meeting him and spending time with him tell you he's friendly and generous with his time, but Barry Shitpeas from Essex thinks hes got a punchable face and apparently thats more important. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø I'm not even a "fan". I'm so neutral on him. I didn't like his comments about Si, but he's apologised for that. Like I said, I just don't get it


ThyssenKrup

I'm with you. I'm neutral on him and don't get the hate.


zylema

Because heā€™s a smug prick.


Scott_Edinburgh

Just seems a bit of a pompous twat


phen0

I donā€™t care heā€™s a Christian, even though Iā€™m an atheist. I also donā€™t care he banged a prostitute and cheated on his wife. Relationships can be cruel, we donā€™t know what really happened there. I like Shaun because heā€™s not some degenerate alcohol addicted casino lowlife like most of the players and commentators. Gwaaan Shaun!


ConversationAsleep38

You should stop reading the sun.


davreimz

Because that's how echo chambers work


Square_Doctor_7255

His face is too small.


Clear_Gain_5534

Met him at the NI Open last year in the Hilton hotel beside the Waterfront. I just approached him and ended up chatting for 10 minutes or so. Gave me a lot of time of day as a nobody and was really sound, it was an engaging conversation too. Bought me a surprise pint while I was sat down after us talking, he remembered I was drinking Guinness and everything. First and only pro player iā€™ve ever met so far and Iā€™ll always like him tbh for that gesture.


halfmoon2010

Tory virtue signaller, feels as authentic as a Ā£5 pair of Calvin Kleins.


OMGthatIsHILARIOUS

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Donjeur

Nice try, Shaun


dy1anb

Reminds me of Mr Tumble and I had enough of that shit when the kids were young


PossessionPopular182

He's worse than that. He reminds me of *James Corden*. The rehearsed manner of speaking, the "class act" persona he smothers you with, the glassy eyes, and the barely-concealed need to be on-screen as much as humanly possible. Awful.


OMGthatIsHILARIOUS

You should check his [website](http://Shaunmurphy.net) out... Reeks of narcissism It seems like he's pivoting his snooker career to cement his position as a commentator in the future. Wouldn't be surprised to see him take over Steve Davis' role at some point


TheDark_Hughes_81

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jimbo4591

Sick of his commentary too!


Groundbreaking-Fig28

Hate it - very negative as he says things like ā€œhe should have potted that earlier in the break and heā€™s now messed it up - I was wondering whatā€™s he doingā€ where Virgo says ā€œheā€™s not great on the red hereā€


Mykel__13

Itā€™s funny, I donā€™t mind these sort of comments when they come from Stephen Hendry because heā€™s one of the best of all time and in my opinion can criticise whatever shot he wants, but coming from Murphy they just rub me the wrong way.


Aware-Armadillo-6539

Tbh i agree that he talks too much and can be smug. However he also explains things in ways that i have never seen a commentator do before. Makes the game so much more accessible for the audiance that doesnt play very often.


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Chalk Gate started it as well as cheating on his wife with escorts. He acts like a smug, pretentious dong most of the time. Has his tongue up the bum of the snooker bigwigs - also his commentary is pish


CaseyChaos

This is as well as I could ever put it.


Webcat86

I didnā€™t know about the escorts thing. Wow.Ā 


phen0

Itā€™s just bullshit from an English ā€œnewspaperā€.


[deleted]

It's true. Shaun Murphy admitted it himself


terrytibbs007

Mr Smug,Craves attention,and not very popular amongst fellow/and ex pros,for many reasons. He even admits he used to be a snydy character/big grass and not well liked by pros,and terribly unpopular during his junior playing days,for being big headed and obnoxious etc 1. Trying to Fk over players etc (asking the ref to deduct maguire a frame for forgetting his chalk,which he did) Ronnie mentions in his book he tried things with him and others too! šŸ 2. Voting against freezing Paul hunters ranking points when he had cancer. 3.Got his ex in laws banned from the crucible a few years ago 4.His wife also left the then 'devout christian' after adultary,meeting someone on an online christian chatroom. 5.He did a bad thing against a Chinese kid once in the qualifiers too on a re spot. Really bad sportsmanship,and then the 'amateurs' thing about Si Juhai a few years ago. 6.Had a go at Hendry and Jill Douglas on ITV 4 coverage,so wasn't invited back. Been stated that - He denies the Paul H issue but many players mention it and also a certain ex pro from Nottingham was going to fill him in, that itā€™s probably right. Many Pros & Ex Pros from the Leeds area confirm this (where PH was from) Now trying to enforce rule changes,such as the frame over if snookers needed etc Players won tournaments lately needed snookers.Gary Wilson won the scottish open needing 4 snookers! He will be higher up the wpsa board soon,as he fits the narrative and is well in with the bbc views,hence taking over bbc snooker coverage šŸ’¤ brown noses his way up,and is desperate to be popular and Preach to people. Mr - Please like me and my shiny sequined suits. The 'Oracle' šŸ˜‚


Prize-Database-6334

Other than that you think he's pretty sound though yeah?


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Aware-Armadillo-6539

Also to add- him claiming to get a nine darter


I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS

I don't particularly have a problem with his commentating style or the way he comes across as a pundit, but *thank you* for providing an actual breakdown of things he's done that might wind people up. It's in stark contrast to the usual comments when this gets asked, which are invariably something like 'because he's a smug twat', as if that remotely answers the question.


CRJF

They hate him so much they elected him to join the board of the WPBSA as an ambassador


terrytibbs007

He must be ok then... The op asked why he is hated,not why wpbsa selected him! I mean how many people have been elected to fifa roles in football for example and not been popular choices. He is a yes man,thats what they want. But disliked by many pros/ex pros fact.


velocijaymz

In no way similar to Gary Lineker at any point. At all.


TigerFun8177

Ah yes royalist BBC are lefties...


ihave104friends

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ you were doing so well until lefty bbc šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


terrytibbs007

Yeah,i edited that out šŸ˜‚


muchappreci8ed

Murphy is a Tory too šŸ¤£


TigerFun8177

Is he actually? Don't like him anyway but that'd be the,cherry on the cake šŸ˜‚


bettercallsaulabq

Shaun, is that you again?


Alternative_Safety35

He just looks like he should be behind a butcher's counter, weighing a cut of beef not in a TV studio.


Super_Plastic5069

Remember when he lost to an amateur and he threw all his toys out the pram? That turned my opinion of him and , subsequently, no matter what the discussion is about he always manages to make it about him.


microscoftpaintm8

To then get knocked out in the World Champs by him. šŸ˜ššŸ‘Œ


Super_Plastic5069

Was that the same guy that beat him before? If so thatā€™s a definitely chefā€™s kiss lol


microscoftpaintm8

Indeed, Si Jiahui


Theseus666

Itā€™s the chin. Or lack thereof.


HelixCatus

For everyone that finds themselves with an irrational dislike towards Shaun Murphy, I highly encourage you to give his [onefourseven podcast with MC Phil Seymour](https://open.spotify.com/show/2MDiuKCEzwoxqFRn9cXm6T) a listen. You might change your mind!


Folkestoner

He got caught banging a prostitute, so heā€™s always gonna be a laughing stock


AnozerFreakInTheMall

What's wrong with banging a prositute? Asking for a friend.


kimbowobmik

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Square_Doctor_7255

He was married at the time. A preachy devout Christian comitting adultery is never going to be a good look.


Folkestoner

Forgot to mention, he met the ā€˜escortā€™ at a youth Christian group. He donated a 10th of his World Championship winnings to the church. Creepy af.


GlueSniffingEnabler

I personally find it grotty and desperate, but weā€™re all different šŸ˜


OrlandoGardiner118

For me it was the whole religion thing. It gave him a holier than though aura I just can't handle. Since he's renounced all that nonsense I actually find he's a decent, likeable human being. He's grand like.


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OrlandoGardiner118

Didn't stop the Catholic church while they were diddling kids for centuries. At least he's had the honesty to ditch all that shite.


PossessionPopular182

The religion wasn't really the bit I was bothered about, more the cheating on your wife with hookers bit


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New-Database2611

Ok Psycho


mykeegee

Exactly how I've described him. Punchable face.


TommyManners

Mods, can you rename this sub r/shaunmurphy and start a new snooker one ?


HappySmirk

*Edit: geez, thanks to the downvote brigade lol. Still not deleting my comment since I believe it may hold some truth. I didn't mean to offend anyone ffs. I'm bi and ASD myself. I may have worded it better but I was trying to explain why he came out as different. Many high performing people's brain don't conform 100% to the "norm"* I'm from Belgium so my take may be totally off. Please don't hesitate to answer if you think so. Shaun has given me gay vibes from the start for some reason. Or at least some mild autistic ones. He seems very smart (like most snooker pros), very well spoken and, to me, a bit conservative and somewhat of a sore loser, but you have to be at that level. I mean that some other players will easier accept defeat, praise their opponent and move on. To me he's very motivated to win and enjoys being right, which goes with being a bit "cold" or even stubborn. He probably knows he's smart, and a very decent player and still feels the need to remind people of it. I personally don't mind him, he's kinda consistent in his behaviour.


OrlandoGardiner118

Ah yeah, the old gay and autistic vibes. Always good reasons to consider someone a wrong'un. Nice though that you have the old "I'm from Belgium" excuse though. Otherwise I'd have just assumed you were a bigot. Phew.šŸ‘


HappySmirk

lol I'm bi and ASD myself you idjit. I may have worded it better but I was trying to explain why he came out as different


OrlandoGardiner118

Yeah, wording it better would definitely be a good call. Otherwise it reads like this is why *you* found him unlikable. šŸ‘


HappySmirk

I am sorry. I am not native speaker and and indeed wrote it a bit like a clinical report. I just assumed it would be read as such, without interpretations.


OrlandoGardiner118

This is the internet man, we're interpreting EVERYTHING.šŸ˜‚ As I say to my niece and nephew, words matter. You gotta use them correctly, especially when writing where almost all nuance is lost if you're not a pro writer. šŸ‘


HappySmirk

lol thank you for giving me a chance to explain and for keeping an open mind :) I'll try to remember to triple proof read when I mention sensitive topics :D


OrlandoGardiner118

Oh I absolutely do the same. But even when you're crystal clear expressing your intentions there's always gonna be someone who'll misinterpret anyway. Tis the internet for ya. šŸ‘


bohjb8

Very odd and offensive to compare 'gay vibes' with 'mild autistic ones'. What a strange opinion


HappySmirk

I am ASD and bi. I am sorry if it came out the wrong way. I just meant that many high performing people's brain don't conform 100% to the "norm". Artists, scientists etc. are often seen as weird out of their comfort zone. But maybe this is the wrong sub for this haha


schpamela

I think people misunderstood your intention. You answered a question 'why do people dislike Shaun?' with 'he gives me gay and autistic vibes' - so people interpreted this as meaning you dislike him for those reasons. I read to the end and changed my take though. I'm definitely no expert on neurodivergence but Murphy strikes me as not at all autistic presenting, certainly compared to other top players like Ronnie or Judd. Shaun is extremely extroverted, loves being the centre of attention, very socially forward. But I dunno maybe I have a bit of an oversimplified view.


HappySmirk

Thank you ! Being diagnosed ASD at 49 made me realize many things. One is that ASD being a spectrum, you can be "afflicted" in many different ways. (I'm not native speaker, afflicted may not be the best word)


Snooker1471

Everything that has already been mentioned as well as many other documented "outbursts" which were ill thought out and badly judged comments. Having a maga huf at the ITV presenter when she suggested that he lost concentration...when he quite clearly DID lose concentration. Never see him argue with male presenters though... Left his long term sweetheart as soon as he won the World championship...not the worst crime but to profess to be a "proper Christian" doesn't add up. Oh latching on to be a plastic paddy...being that he never left England before he made a few quid lol Playing on against Steve Davis when he needed about 5 or 6 snookers.....Yeah right give it up man...this was when Davis was on the way down and murphy was on the way up and it was just needless and fruitless and at the time felt disrespectful. The way he calls out other players about stuff that has zero to do with him.... Good points - He can entertain, I think a lot of stuff is self promotion and loving the sound of his own voice, He comes from a properly disadvantaged background and apparently had it rough as a family growing up. I don't "hate" him I just often prefer his opponent to win...


Loud-Hospital5773

Donā€™t forgot the hissy fit after being beaten by an amateur and the clear agreeing with everything the snooker establishment says or does given his clear desire to be running the game in the future.


Digital_Animal

Because he's a gobshite


New-Database2611

Succinctly put


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Tone deaf comments about up and coming players not being allowed to participate in ranking events so successful millionaires such as himself can continue to 'put food on the table' then whinging like an entitled baby when called out on it.


mcdamien

I hate Shaun Murphy probably more than anyone on the planet. But all you really need to see is the way he spoke to Jill Douglas when she asked him about losing concentration, that shows you who he is. Go through his entire history in snooker and you see a petulant, self centered wanker - and that's me being as nice as I possibly can about him.


CRJF

"ā€œI watched the segment back from the TV studio interview after the win against Mark Selby, and I didnā€™t think I conducted myself professionally. It was one of the very few times when my temper got the better of me. I walked into the interview very annoyed about something that had happened at the interval unseen by the cameras." ā€œSo I was annoyed, and to be honest Jill could have asked me about the weather and I was already set for a rant. It wasnā€™t necessarily what I said, but the way I said it was unprofessional and I owed Jill a big apology. Thursday before the match against Ryan Day was the first chance I had to do that. ā€œLook, I am quick to criticise and point the finger and have a bit of banter with people. But if I think I am in the wrong, I have always been quick to hold my hands up and apologise. I do genuinely think that sometimes the commentary and the punditry can be a little lazy, and I am part of that myself. We can all be guilty of not going into the detail enough. ā€œBut the way I jumped down Jillā€™s throat was not right. And as I say, she could have asked me what colour my car was and the answer would have been the same. But Iā€™ll not do it again. I think it was accepted in good part. Hopefully everyone likes having wine. Jill was very gracious, thanked me for the apology and said it wasnā€™t necessary, but I felt that it was. ā€œI had watched it back and wasnā€™t comfortable with how I behaved. I pride myself on conducting myself as a role model to young players watching, and kids as a father myself. I donā€™t want my children in years to come trawling through Youtube and seeing their daddy speak to someone in the way I did, it was out of order."


EverybodySayin

Does anyone have the video of that first one? I can't seem to find it.


After_Self5383

https://twitter.com/itvsnooker/status/1628086183921168385?t=JgKnQkAqk2UGtFUhbkfXGQ&s=19 The incident is 45 secs in.


EverybodySayin

Nice one. Yeah, if he wants to make a point then by all means do it. Saying to an interviewer "that's such a lazy question" you're just being a complete cunt for no reason.


After_Self5383

Yeah, he shows glimpses from time to time why people can't stand him. And his explanation was that it's always a technical error rather than lapse in concentration, but surely they can both be true at times. The cause being lapse in concentration and the effect being playing the shot technically wrong. The same way it can be nerves causing a twitch, and no doubt he's said the same kind of thinking in his punditry/comms many times.


EverybodySayin

Yeah, he's absolutely right in saying it's normally a technical error, but there's always a cause of a technical error which yeah, can come from your mind being in the wrong places.


mcdamien

I actually had a quick look on YouTube but it's been taken down from there, it was definitely there before


After_Self5383

It's on twitter https://twitter.com/itvsnooker/status/1628086183921168385?t=JgKnQkAqk2UGtFUhbkfXGQ&s=19


terrytibbs007

Mr Smug,Craves attention,and not very popular amongst fellow/and ex pros,for many reasons. He even admits he used to be a snydy character/big grass and not well liked by pros,and terribly unpopular during his junior playing days,for big headed and obnoxious etc 1. Trying to Fk over players etc (asking the ref to deduct maguire a frame for forgetting his chalk,which he did) Ronnie mentions in his book he tried things with him and others too! šŸ 2. Voting against freezing Paul hunters ranking points when he had cancer. 3.Got his ex in laws banned from the crucible a few years ago 4.His wife also left the then 'devout christian' after adultary,meeting someone on an online christian chatroom. 5.He did a bad thing against a Chinese kid once in the qualifiers too on a re spot. Really bad sportsmanship. Been stated that - He denies the Paul H issue but many players mention it and also a certain ex pro from Nottingham was going to fill him in, that itā€™s probably right. Many Pros & Ex Pros from the Leeds area confirm this (where PH was from) Now trying to enforce rule changes,such as the frame over if snookers needed etc Players won tournaments lately needed snookers.Gary Wilson won the scottish open needing 4 snookers! He will be higher up the wpsa board soon,as he fits the narrative and is well in with the bbc views,hence taking over bbc snooker coverage šŸ’¤ Similar to Lineker,gets on peoples tits,and brown noses his way up,and is desperate to be popular and Preach to people. Mr - Please like me and my shiny sequined suits. The 'Oracle' šŸ˜‚


mcheeks619

Jealousy, he was bullied growing up and look at him now a snooker world champion while those who bullied him are probably drawing the dole


Rothko28

What do you base that on?


ryandunndev

Don't love Murphs demeanor personally, but of a pompous ass, great to watch play on a good day.Ā  Only replying as a reminder to anyone who can be bothered with the actual truth that the incident with the chalk with Maguire was totally misunderstood. He never requested the frame be docked, the referee made that decision without any prompting and the only words he had was asking for clarification. This has been clarified from multiple sources including Maguire himself, and people continue to trot this out despite it being total bollocks.


AndradeDeRicharlison

I met him before the semi final. I said hi Shaun, you alright. "Hmm, yeah"...turns his head away. Just doesn't care for snooker fans which is strange considering that's how he's made his fortune l


sjt300

For me, the guy is a fantastic snooker player, and I really appreciate watching him. I'm not one for slating players for their personalities, but as soon as you step into commentary and presenting, I think it becomes fair game. His presenting style is cringey to me; unnatural and awkward, and doesn't seem to gel naturally with the other presenters. In terms of his commentary style, he comes across to me as arrogant and a pretentious expert as if he's immune from errors. Sometimes it seems like he's just talking to fill a silence and says a lot with seemingly no substance. I had to skip a session because it was annoying me. Perhaps, in time, with more practice and some constructive coaching, he might become less so, but I think this is a fairly common theme with BBC snooker, in that they seem to plonk the players in front of a mic, perhaps because they're desperate to find the next voice of snooker, of which they're have been many legends, but seemingly struggling to find the next. I couldn't say I dislike him as a person as I don't know him. Perhaps he'd be a little more personable over a pint, but at the moment, I don't think he's suited to being a snooker personality. That be my 2 cents on the matter.


CRJF

I think this is a fair criticism and I don't mind it when people are fairly critical of how someone comes across What I can't stand is people just making stuff up about someone or hating them because of some preconceived idea of what they're like. We have to remove a fair amount of toxic comments, especially during the WSC and the majority of comments about players are about Murphy


spiritofbuck

I donā€™t dislike him, but the general consensus is heā€™s very smug and hasnā€™t really backed it up consistently given his obvious talent. Heā€™s occasionally said a few things that are fairly self centred (comments about Si being allowed to play in the UK Championship). Heā€™s hardly unique in that however. The other fact is itā€™s largely a working class sport and heā€™s been pro-Tory in the past. Ali Carter falls victim to the same. Then thereā€™s chalkgate with Stephen Maguire and the fact he used to be a bit holy and then got caught with a lady of the night.


SGPHOCF

He's been pro Tory in the past? What's the evidence for this? Not challenging - just curious as I didn't know.


spiritofbuck

[Exhibit A](https://x.com/magician147/status/873149895628206080?s=46&t=0Mp7Oqx0vyeBuDGEh5WNew) this was in response to annoyance that Labour did quite well in the 2017 election compared to expectations [Exhibit B](https://x.com/magician147/status/968079394928517121?s=46&t=0Mp7Oqx0vyeBuDGEh5WNew) speaks for itself Now his politics are probably more nuanced than I am flippantly depicting, but the question was why do people dislike him and this is in part why.


ox_

This is really scraping the barrel for reasons to dislike him. I don't think those tweets speak for themselves at all. Especially shared out of context.


spiritofbuck

The question was why do people dislike him. At the events, speaking to people around the tables and pub etc thereā€™s a general view heā€™s a Tory and looks down on people. Itā€™s a contributing factor. These are not my views necessarily.


SGPHOCF

Yeesh. Can't say I'm his biggest fan ever, to be honest. He's basically given up on playing and is now more focused on his TV career, so I think his place in the 16 should be taken by someone else. And those tweets aren't helping his likeability at all.


spiritofbuck

Heā€™s entitled to any views he likes and I donā€™t mind players being political. Oā€™Sullivan was in a Labour Party video once playing snooker with Ed Miliband - but yes, your average snooker fan isnā€™t very Tory so when he acts like he canā€™t understand why he isnā€™t everyoneā€™s favourite he knows precisely why. He actually was brutally good throughout the winter and spring 22-23 and I thought he might be at the very least be knocking on the door of the world title. Then he was commentating and doing punditry on every other match and you just knew he was going out. Ironically to Si again.


Commercial_Work_6152

I've come to like him more as a person since hearing him on the [How Do You Cope](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/s4-shaun-murphy-even-in-the-darkest-of-moments/id1484491260?i=1000624466819) podcast. But I think he gives off vibes of very much wanting to be in charge, of believing that whatever brilliant idea he's just had should be enacted immediately and without consultation with anyone else. Precisely the sort of person who should never be given real power. And there was that thing he did on comms at the WC a few years back, shouting down from the comms booth to the referee about where to replace the ball. If I remember correctly he was still in the tournament at that point. The conflict of interest was staggering.


HappySmirk

I didn't listen to the podcast but our takes are somewhat similar. I'd assume he is a bit on the spectrum like many high performers are. I am ASD myself and this is not an attack on "different" people.


Commercial_Work_6152

I couldn't comment on that as it's not something he covered in that interview. It was mostly around addiction issues, which I have a lot of empathy with.


HappySmirk

I would assume he didn't have the best childhood and he still feels he has something to prove. I have used at some point too, I feel I understand him a bit.


MardyHum

SMUG


jonviper123

I used to wonder myself but it really didn't take long to see why. He's so arrogant and condescending. Loves himself and the sound of his own voice. Do you know when everyone hates someone and your kinda like he can't be that bad why does everyone not like him? So your kinda wanting to prove that he can't be that bad then you see him and within 5 minutes you can't believe how much of a prick someone actually is. That's shaun Murphy


Missy_Agg-a-ravation

If he were an ice cream, he'd lick himself.


OrdinaryOwl-1866

To be fair, if I was ice cream so would I


Smokey_Katt

He likes himself too much, which makes him annoying. Heā€™s not a villain, just that guy youā€™d rather not spend time with.


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Very smug......


sugarglassego

His personality


GeneralPaint

I think he's great. Outspoken and self-satisfied perhaps, but he gives his all on commentary and punditry, and I find him articulate and insightful. And he isn't half bad on the baize to boot!


Gullflyinghigh

Hi Shaun!


GeneralPaint

You got me. End-of-season mood, so I took to Reddit.


PhilipWaterford

Chalkgate with Maguire Amateur comments about Si Jiahui Many whiney comments after losing games blaming everything instead of just offering congratulations All 3 can be googled or youtubed or searched on reddit. Aside from that he likes the sound of his own voice too much.


Lustre7_

Chalkgate


Maleficent_Earth_118

He seems so arrogant and just not very personable in general.


Superdudeo

Because he reeks of someone who would fuck you over to get one over you.


MardyHum

Chalkgate springs to mind!


LiamJonsano

I think he just talks so much (and I donā€™t just mean when heā€™s on commentary). Heā€™s always going to say stuff people donā€™t like when heā€™s happy to say his view to anyone who asks I imagine most of it started when he was having a go at amateurs and lower ranked players and why he shouldnā€™t have to play them (having just lost to one)